[Q] LG G3 boost mobile - Sprint LG G3

Does anyone know if we can flash this to boost?

Not till root is obtained. At least i don't think so.
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No, you cannot "flash" anything to Boost. People who do this are cloaning clean ESN's, which is entirely illegal. Only certain approved Sprint models can be used legitimately on Boost Mobile, otherwise you'll have to buy a Boost Mobile branded device.
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haoleflip said:
No, you cannot "flash" anything to Boost. People who do this are cloaning clean ESN's, which is entirely illegal. Only certain approved Sprint models can be used legitimately on Boost Mobile, otherwise you'll have to buy a Boost Mobile branded device.
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Oh come on, don't discourage the newbie. Illegal or not, way too many people do it. It's like telling him not to pirate, calm down.

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Oh come on, don't discourage the newbie. Illegal or not, way too many people do it. It's like telling him not to pirate, calm down.
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It actually carries a more severe penalty than pirating and is definitely not the same. Plus I doubt that we're allowed to talk about the illegal activity of cloning esn's here on these forums. You don't see any threads here that teaches people how to do it, do you?
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It actually carries a more severe penalty than pirating and is definitely not the same. Plus I doubt that we're allowed to talk about the illegal activity of cloning esn's here on these forums. You don't see any threads here that teaches people how to do it, do you?
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Interestingly enough... you can find them at some respectable sites, for example:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/460035-evo-4g-boost-mobile-guide-evo-3d.html
Notice the MOD NOTE at the top.

well yes you can without cloning an esn just take it in to a Boost mobile store and Boost will talk with Sprint to see if it can be used on Boost....the pre-requisits being not stolen and that's about it...

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Off Sprint Contract - Pre-paid option now?

Hi,
My brother died. Only 2 months left on his contract so I'd like to complete the contract for him then give his son the phone to use. However, the son cannot afford the $80 per month bill my brother had. Is there a pre-paid option I can get this Sprint phone running on that's a good deal? His usage would be light. If a data plan is available too that would be nice but not totally necessary.
Thanks,
CxP
Flash it over to Boost Mobile for him
A good option would be to have it flashed to Cricket. My understanding is that they will flash any CDMA phone to their network. There are other options of flashing to Boost, etc but they are kind of difficult process to do and illegal because another phones esn must be swapped to the Evo to work because Boost, Virgin, Metro will no longer activate a phone that they did not sell directly (even though many folks do this and get away with it....i sur wouldn't rick it because it is an FCC deemed federal crime).
What's the best stock software to be running on the phone for Cricket? The latest ICS or some version of GB?
Thanks,
CxP
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Hi,
My brother died.
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Did everyone miss that? Seriously though sorry for your loss
kiewee3 said:
Did everyone miss that? Seriously though sorry for your loss
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I was gonna say.
nice everyone helping out, but I truly sorry am sorry about your loss.
One option which you probably thought of. If you financially do it, pay for the last 2 months.
or
-Downgrade current plan
Best wishes to you & family.
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Thanks for your feedback. I am paying the plan for the next 2 months to get the phone off contract.
I would look at downgrading the plan but I didn't see anything less than the $80/month plan that has data with it. I will check the Sprint site again though.
Thanks for the sympathies guys and for the helpful feedback too.
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Where r u located? Check to c if ur in a cricket triband area. If u r I'd suggest flashing the phone to boost instead of cricket. I flashed a friend's og EVO recently to cricket in a triband area n his 3g is all screwed up...good luck.
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Have you tried caing Sprint and telling them about your brother? They could just end the contract for you. It's worth a try.
Plus even if the phone is on contract I think you can still use it on Cricket. I see lots of Bad ESN Sprint phones on ebay that can be used on Cricket but not Sprint.
Sorry about ur brother man.
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The phone will be in Berkley, MI. I'll have to check but I don't want to do anything illegal.
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Am truly sorry for your loss.
I am assuming its an evo 3d....
You are allowed to break a contract on grounds the person who signed the contract has passed. If it not under his name that is not an option Technically the contract expired when he passed but you have to notify Sprint. Now the problem is they will try to charge ( eventually to the estate) the full retail price of the phone since it was purchased at a discounted price on the assumption they were getting two years of service fees. You might be better off doing as youplanned and pay the remaining two months to own the phone. At that point you can flash to boost or virgin mobile. Virgin has more sprint towers than boost...
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What's the process to switch over to Virgin or Cricket? If going to Boost is illegal I want no part of that.
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What's the process to switch over to Virgin or Cricket? If going to Boost is illegal I want no part of that.
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Flashing your phone to cricket or boost isn't illegal
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Threevo said:
Flashing your phone to cricket or boost isn't illegal
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Cricket will flash the phone in store (not illegal). Boost will not flash the phone.....The only way to flash to Boost is to do an esn swap from an already activated Boost phone and flash yourself.....which is very illegal. Please don't spread misinformation.
Also OP, my sincere condolences for your and your nephews loss.
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Cricket will flash the phone in store (not illegal). Boost will not flash the phone.....The only way to flash to Boost is to do an esn swap from an already activated Boost phone and flash yourself.....which is very illegal. Please don't spread misinformation.
Also OP, my sincere condolences for your and your nephews loss.
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How does one flash it to Virgin? since they do have Evo 3Ds? and are their any cricket stores in michigan? [in the kalamazoo area]
Were you in here a couple weeks ago trying to get past your brothers pass code to find his contacts? How did that work out?
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Yep that was me. I was able to get into his yahoo mail account and use that one to reset the password on the Gmail. So I ended up just factory resetting the phone.
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Can you used the EVO 3D on any of these pre-paid services w/o a data plan? Finding out the son may not be allowed internet access due to some previous poor behavior.
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U do not "flash" to cricket.... And "flashing" is not illegal. Spoofing esn's is. (But if ur spoofing it from a phone u own egos gonna catch u?)
Step 1 have cricket add ur esn to ur cricket android account.
Step 2 apply correct prl for cricket
U now have a working phone (talk/txt)
Mms is a whole different story. (Need correct apn)
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Cricket will flash the phone in store (not illegal). Boost will not flash the phone.....The only way to flash to Boost is to do an esn swap from an already activated Boost phone and flash yourself.....which is very illegal. Please don't spread misinformation.
Also OP, my sincere condolences for your and your nephews loss.
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"Very" is a little harsh.
Cloinging an ESN is a federal crime (regulated by the FCC), but the law is written to prevent cloning an ESN to steal service (i.e. creating a true clone - having 2 phones working off of one contract/service, and only paying for service for one phone).
The laws are a little bit behind on this one.
While techinically against the law, the fact is that if you only ever have one phone connected to the service using that ESN - and you are the contract holder for the service associated with that ESN, you are not "stealing the service" and are not committing an actual crime.
The government no longer recognizes non-criminal activity as innocent, however, and the act of cloning the ESN number is prohibited by law.
For a short break off topic, this is part of the problem with the "free people" in America - their government prohibits, they obey or lose their life, liberty, and/or property to their government.
The government can prosecute you for violating it's rules, even if you commit no crime (no tresspass upon another person's equal inherent rights). The limitations on normal people (the inability to bring a case to court without Standing - a distinct and palpable injury or loss caused by another person; Standing only allows you to bring a civil proceeding against the infringing party - no criminal (prison/fines/death penalty) sanctions may be imposed) do not apply to government. No crime must exist for the state to bring a criminal case against a person (trust me. I went to prison for violating a governmental licensing statute - without having committed an actual crime).
Government has no rights, and - Constitutionally - cannot bring charges against a person EXCEPT in the case where it is representing the rights of a victim of crime (i.e. a murder case), or cases of treason.
Government doesn't obey the rules any more.
So while intent is generally considered to be part of the crime (innocent intent to use service you are paying for should not be criminalized), the actual interpretation of the law may be different - if you are ever taken to court, and the state brings charges against you.
The likelihood of this happening is very, very small.
As long as you aren't selling phones with cloned ESN's, and don't make a habit out of doing this (and also destroy the phone with the ESN you clone - making there only be 1 phone with the ESN you are using), you shouldn't have any problems.
That being said, it is still, technically, against federal law.

Anyone tried any version on Verizon?

Well its the 24 and still not a word from big red... Has anyone tried any version on Verizon network? International/sprint//tmobile anything at all. This feels just like the note og release for me
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LordRalh3 said:
Well its the 24 and still not a word from big red... Has anyone tried any version on Verizon network? International/sprint//tmobile anything at all. This feels just like the note og release for me
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If it's not released, how would somebody use that version...
LordRalh3, Other versions won't work on Verizon's network...
computingwarren, People got their hands on it at the NYC event last night.
Comp.... The same way people use the international version in the us, or the tmobile on att... I wasn't asking if someone had the Verizon version.
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Comp.... The same way people use the international version in the us, or the tmobile on att... I wasn't asking if someone had the Verizon version.
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Again, how are they going to use a GSM device on Verizon? Verizon is a CDMA network primarily, with LTE being the only type of GSM service they have. Unless you have some magic radio dust, you need to a VZW device to use VZW's network.
Oh so trolling me means the cdma versions released dont apply? The n7100 and 7105 are not the only note 2s, i got it, if you havent something to add thats helpfull then dont post please.
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Oh so trolling me means the cdma versions released dont apply? The n7100 and 7105 are not the only note 2s, i got it, if you havent something to add thats helpfull then dont post please.
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So, you want to know who has tried the Note II on Verizon? Unless you are a device tester, no one has used the Note II on Verizon's network. Yes, we could go out and try a T-Mobile Note II, but I can't see anyone on VZW spending $650 for an unlocked international version when it won't work on VZW's network.
Maybe you should realize that you're posting in a VERIZON ONLY forum and asking people their opinion's on GSM devices that have a snowball's chance in hell of working on Verizon's network before you start complaining about responses you're getting.
I posted it in the note 2 general q&a before it was separated into different flavors by the mods into individual carrier models, and btw people unlock phones and try different networks all the time, and there are at least 3 models from south korea that could play nicely with Verizon with a little effort and was hoping someone had found a useful bit of info. So once again if you dont have something helpful to post please dont
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I posted it in the note 2 general q&a before it was separated into different flavors by the mods into individual carrier models, and btw people unlock phones and try different networks all the time, and there are at least 3 models from south korea that could play nicely with Verizon with a little effort and was hoping someone had found a useful bit of info. So once again if you dont have something helpful to post please dont
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I feel like you have no clue what you're asking. Just keep babbling.
Im not feeding you trolls anymore, google it yourself, shv-e250....3 models
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I posted it in the note 2 general q&a before it was separated into different flavors by the mods into individual carrier models, and btw people unlock phones and try different networks all the time, and there are at least 3 models from south korea that could play nicely with Verizon with a little effort and was hoping someone had found a useful bit of info. So once again if you dont have something helpful to post please dont
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You really have no idea how VZW's network works do you? If you can't get a Sprint LTE device to work on VZW, how do you think you're going to get an international version working? Just because it supports LTE doesn't mean it will work. If that was the case, why aren't people using AT&T or Sprint Note II's on VZW? Or one of the many other LTE capable phones out there that are available? The reason is because you can't. It won't work, and even if they did support the same protocols and frequencies, you would need to know someone that has access to backend VZW systems that would be willing to risk their job for you to even hope at getting it to work.
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You really have no idea how VZW's network works do you? If you can't get a Sprint LTE device to work on VZW, how do you think you're going to get an international version working? Just because it supports LTE doesn't mean it will work. If that was the case, why aren't people using AT&T or Sprint Note II's on VZW? Or one of the many other LTE capable phones out there that are available? The reason is because you can't. It won't work, and even if they did support the same protocols and frequencies, you would need to know someone that has access to backend VZW systems that would be willing to risk their job for you to even hope at getting it to work.
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lol some people are just fools who will never understand the concept of how the networks really work out there. If it really worked, hell people would be going to one dealer to get it $50 cheaper like AT&T has, and then just using it with their unlimited data on Verizon.
You guys are morons, i am NOT TALKING ABOUT ONLY GSM i am also talking about the cdma korean versions, ever heard of cdma workshop? How bout unlocking? For being on xda you are kinda out of it. Ive gotten my answer thank you, two of these versions DO work according to pms iv gotten from people that live or travel to/from south korea where guess what they use CDMA. Only in the us do carriers stop you from using a boughten phone on another network.
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Yeah, we're all idiots and have no idea what we're talking about. Care to tell me how they got the ESN into VZW's database? How are they authenticating and using the LTE network, or even using the CDMA network properly? Probably by doing stuff that is less than legal, or they know people that not many others do. And if it's so easy to do, don't you think that people would be importing the international versions frequently rather than getting bloated Verizon versions? Then again, we're all just idiots, so wtf would we know.
sprints version should be able to work on Verizon, they are both cdma+lte with global capabilities... I know they could since sprint and Verizon roam of each other just like AT&T and T-Mobile do and unlocked gsm phones work on AT&T and T-Mobile all you should have to do is unlock a sprint version
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sprints version should be able to work on Verizon, they are both cdma+lte with global capabilities... I know they could since sprint and Verizon roam of each other just like AT&T and T-Mobile do and unlocked gsm phones work on AT&T and T-Mobile all you should have to do is unlock a sprint version
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Sprint doesn't use the same LTE frequency, and you wouldn't be able to get the phone's ESN info in VZW's database. This is why I've been saying you have to get a VZW version to use on VZW.
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Yeah, we're all idiots and have no idea what we're talking about. Care to tell me how they got the ESN into VZW's database? How are they authenticating and using the LTE network, or even using the CDMA network properly? Probably by doing stuff that is less than legal, or they know people that not many others do. And if it's so easy to do, don't you think that people would be importing the international versions frequently rather than getting bloated Verizon versions? Then again, we're all just idiots, so wtf would we know.
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To be a recognized dev you really are trolling pretty badly. The dude asked if anyone had gotten another Note2 to work on verizon. We are all very happy you understand the policy behind the scenes of getting the device onto the network. There are plenty of people who do have connections within Verizon that could possibly have set it up to make it happen. I'm sure you know all about chipsets and network bands so I'm sure you understand it is completely within the realm of the possible that it happened. Don't bust on the guy for asking a question.
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To be a recognized dev you really are trolling pretty badly. The dude asked if anyone had gotten another Note2 to work on verizon. We are all very happy you understand the policy behind the scenes of getting the device onto the network. There are plenty of people who do have connections within Verizon that could possibly have set it up to make it happen. I'm sure you know all about chipsets and network bands so I'm sure you understand it is completely within the realm of the possible that it happened. Don't bust on the guy for asking a question.
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Would you risk your job to put a friend's Note 2 from another carrier in the system just so they could use the network? I imagine there are some very heavy restrictions on adding new devices to the database, with pretty heavy consequences if you're just adding stuff for fun. Is it possible to make it happen? Yes, it is. Is it likely to happen? No, and I doubt if you did get someone to add the phone info, they wouldn't want you to go around posting about it everywhere.
Given the likelihood is next to zero for knowing someone with the access to do this, being able to buy a non-VZW phone with the proper radio frequencies that isn't a VZW specific device, and then getting said person to add said device to the network, I don't get why the thread was started to begin with. I know of people that have tried to get Sprint CDMA only devices on VZW's network, and even that is a venture in futility, so I can't imagine how you expect to get an LTE Note II from a non-US carrier to work.
Also, you people need to learn what trolling is, as I wouldn't consider any of my posts in this thread to be trolling. I'm stating facts as to why what the OP is asking is extremely unlikely and near impossible. Trolling rarely is factual. Maybe you could say I'm a troll if I came here posting "OMG, I'm using it on VZW's network right now and it's the best thing since sliced French Bread", but I'm not.
So it is possible
It was just a question (in the Q&A section no less) looking for like minded people to respond
Trolling is responding without addressing the topic or in this case answering the question, which was what you did.... repeatedly.
I'm only responding because I would expect much more in a response from a developer. Leave the negativity and the can't do attitude to someone else.
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So it is possible
It was just a question (in the Q&A section no less) looking for like minded people to respond
Trolling is responding without addressing the topic or in this case answering the question, which was what you did.... repeatedly.
I'm only responding because I would expect much more in a response from a developer. Leave the negativity and the can't do attitude to someone else.
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You have no clue what trolling means.

January 26th and the new law!

What exactly does this mean for us and rooting? The law seems extremely vague. Any answer would be greatly appreciated
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enik_fox said:
What exactly does this mean for us and rooting? The law seems extremely vague. Any answer would be greatly appreciated
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Your post is extremely vague also. I have no idea what you're even asking
Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Your post is extremely vague also. I have no idea what you're even asking
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Read some news. Its all over everything unless you happen to know of another law kicking into gear on the 26th.
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Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Thanks for the response. The wording is just so... Special its hard to make heads or tails of it.
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Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Please elaborate, what the **** is wrong with those bastards? I bought my device and I do whatever I want with it.
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Please elaborate, what the **** is wrong with those bastards? I bought my device and I do whatever I want with it.
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And you still can but what this prevents you from doing is unlocking your phone and walking over to competing mobile provider B. and activating a phone with them that was originally only meant to work on mobile provider A. This is actually a good thing for Google.
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And you still can but what this prevents you from doing is unlocking your phone and walking over to competing mobile provider B. and activating a phone with them that was originally only meant to work on mobile provider A. This is actually a good thing for Google.
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Actually this is just made to screw us customers and to help huge corporations in their never ending quest to get more money off us.
If someone buys a phone with a provider and switches it's because said provider didn't fit the needs of the customer needs, having choices is not bad at all.
The damn government is full of selfish bastards that just care about filling their pockets with bribes, this clearly doesn't help anyone.
Big Brother is not going to beat your door down because you unlocked your phone. Sorry if I ruin anyones day by posting that but unless you run a business doing that I wouldn't even sweat over it
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Big Brother is not going to beat your door down because you unlocked your phone. Sorry if I ruin anyones day by posting that but unless you run a business doing that I wouldn't even sweat over it
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The Galaxy unlock apps from the store might be banned and if we aren't lucky all of the *unlock your device* threads here in XDA will be gone too.
Here is an article and snippet that mentions tablets:
"Digital Millennium Copyright Act will make it illegal to jailbreak and unlock phones. According to the act, it is illegal to unlock both tablets and phones without permission from your wireless provider. ... Unfortunately, that window closes on Saturday, January 26th."
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/dmca-law-to-make-unlocking-phones-illegal-after-january-26th/
Of course any tablet without cell network connectivity or purchased from a cell provider is exempt.
so does this leave cyanogen mod in a tight spot? or can we still swap roms and stick with the current carrier?
I don't live in the US but it infuriates me when the government screws the people it's supposed to protect.
I sure hope none of you guys votes for the fags who passed this.
I agree it's a crock. Do we purchase the phone/tablet or rent it? If we are truly purchasing the phone then all they SHOULD be able to do is void our warranty.
This has nothing to do with rooting your phone or switching roms. The interpretation of the law is saying that you cannot take (for example) an AT&T phone that you bought on contract and unlock it to run on T-mobile without AT&T's permission. If you cancel your contract or it is up, AT&T says they will give you the unlock then.
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This has nothing to do with rooting your phone or switching roms. The interpretation of the law is saying that you cannot take (for example) an AT&T phone that you bought on contract and unlock it to run on T-mobile without AT&T's permission. If you cancel your contract or it is up, AT&T says they will give you the unlock then.
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Exactly.. It's not unfair, the `man' isn't holding you down and it's definitely not aliens..
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Exactly.. It's not unfair, the `man' isn't holding you down and it's definitely not aliens..
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Wasn't really worried about them holding me down... was more of a question of what is allowed and isn't... damn wording is so vague... i prefer the cyanogen roms... typically run much better than stock.
As long as i can still do that... i am happy.
Never know an alien could have provided blueprints for your phone
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Dont think it'll be enforced
I honestly dont think this law will be enforced.
Here in South Africa its illegal for the cellphone providers to lock the phones to the network. I guess lucky us.
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The provider sates "purchasing" the phone, and we all sign contracts with stated penalties for early termination. So basically they were able to convince the gov't to make a law to change the contract we already had with the provider.
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This isnt talking about rooting your phone, it is about unlocking which network it can be connected to. There are probably less than 1% of people in the US who ever unlock their phone to move them to a different carrier. Everyone in the US buys a new phone with a new contract, and most of the pay as you go stuff is unlocked anyway since you have to enter the APN info yourself or have a service rep do it.
The law itself is retarded and unneeded, and also shouldnt be within the realm of what government is allowed to say you can or cant do. But really it makes not one bit of different to just about anyone.

Petition: Starting 1/26/2013 Unlocking Your Phone Will Be Illegal

This should be pinned to every general section in this on this site.
Sign this petition to keep unlocking legal. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2414699,00.asp
Starting Saturday, it will be illegal for you to unlock your phone without permission from your wireless carrier.
The rule change dates back to an October decision from the Library of Congress's Copyright Office, which gave consumers a 90-day window to unlock their phones without carrier permission. That 90-day period, however, ends this weekend.
The Copyright Office reviews the rules on unlocking (and jailbreaking) every three years, as required by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). This time around, regulators found that "there are ample alternatives to circumvention. That is, the marketplace has evolved such that there is now a wide array of unlocked phone options available to consumers."
Some groups, however, had requested an exemption that would allow people to unlock their phones at will "because some devices sold by carriers are permanently locked and because unlocking policies contain restrictions and may not apply to all of a carrier's devices."
The Copyright Office, however, determined that "with respect to newly purchased phones, proponents had not satisfied their burden of showing adverse effects related to a technological protection measure."
That's likely because there are currently a variety of options when it comes to unlocking your phone. Verizon CDMA phones, for example, have unlocked SIM card slots. The 4G LTE Verizon iPhone 5 also includes an unlocked SIM. Last year, AT&T started allowing non-contract iPhone users to unlock their devices for use on other GSM networks. You can also opt to buy unlocked phones for a higher price.
Still, the Copyright Office recognized that it's not as easy to unlock an older phone as it is a newer one - "in part because an older or expired contract might not require the carrier to cooperate."
As a result, regulators gave consumers that 90-day window, starting Oct. 28, to unlock their phone without carrier permission. The move "is both warranted and unlikely to harm the market," the office concluded.
The unlocking issue differs from jailbreaking. In its same October ruling, regulators upheld rules that allow for jailbreaking, which allows you to run unapproved applications. Jailbreaking is most often mentioned in conjunction with the iPhone because Apple has strict control over which apps it allows into its App Store. If you jailbreak your device, you could run an app not available in the App Store on your iPhone, but the very act of jailbreaking voids your warranty, so you better know what you're doing.
The Copyright Office, however, declined to extend its jailbreaking rules to tablets because it found that the proposed definition of the device was too broad.
Wow. What has this world come to. That's a communist way of looking at electronics. I wish we knew more about what will happen if you have your carriers permission to unlock.
On a second reading, it looks like this only applies to unlocking the sim. It doesn't say bootloader...
Maybe we'll still be able to dev for these amazing devices
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yeah its sim unlock only, so you cant run it on another network, which is still absolute BS.
Signed. Freedom after purchase is a very big part of living in a free society. If you can't do what you want with your property what's the point in calling it yours
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This is the Rezound forum. The Rezound is only sold through Verizon Wireless. VZW has never locked their phones to work only on their network.
mike.s said:
This is the Rezound forum. The Rezound is only sold through Verizon Wireless. VZW has never locked their phones to work only on their network.
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Someone obviously missed the point...
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this does not matter just purchase an unlocked phone like i did the htc rezound and besides all lte phone must be unlocked according to fcc rules. for the rules.
rezoundness said:
this does not matter just purchase an unlocked phone like i did the htc rezound and besides all lte phone must be unlocked according to fcc rules. for the rules.
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Bootloader must be unlockable yes, but sim cards no. They will have control over your ability to use a phone on a network of your choosing
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As if this will stop anyone. Just like how gun laws prevent shootings...
socal87 said:
As if this will stop anyone. Just like how gun laws prevent shootings...
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You may own the phone, but your service provider can cut you off it you violate their rules. They'll tell you too bad.. Go try the next provider your just a number
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But wait a sec,
If you buy the phone on contract for the lowered price then technically you don't own the phone right? So the carrier would decide?
Don't forget to sign the death star petition as well. If ur not familiar with that petition then shame on u.
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saintsfan09 said:
Don't forget to sign the death star petition as well. If ur not familiar with that petition then shame on u.
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Didn't that one end? They responded to it and it was amazing...let me see if I can find it
edit: here https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking
heyis4horses said:
Didn't that one end? They responded to it and it was amazing...let me see if I can find it
edit: here https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking
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How sad. I didn't know it ended already. I really thought this petition would be successful. Shows u how messed up this countries priorities r when we can't even get the government to commit necessary resources to building a death star. My generation will get this done. Guaranteed. Clever response from the White House though. I will concede that much
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How sad. I didn't know it ended already. I really thought this petition would be successful. Shows u how messed up this countries priorities r when we can't even get the government to commit necessary resources to building a death star. My generation will get this done. Guaranteed. Clever response from the White House though. I will concede that much
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I could not be happier with their response unless it was a picture of a death star in construction
When I'm President, my first move in office will to order funds for R&D into the creation of a Deathstar. I hope to vaporize those damn Martians by my 2nd term...
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Your info isn't entirely true. This law only pertains to phones purchased when the law goes in to effect. Any phones purchased before the law going in to effect is exempted.
Personally I would just buy a nexus 4 if I was going to carrier hop and know everything will work right. I do agree its stupid as if you own your phone outright you should be able to use it as you see fit. After all you can modify your car any way you want so why cant phpnes be the same way?
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heyis4horses said:
Didn't that one end? They responded to it and it was amazing...let me see if I can find it
edit: here https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking
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They are the government as they don't know a parsec is a measurement in distance and not time lol.
I really thought they would go for the ideal of building a death star. I mean come on it wastes money like the government seems to love to do. Plus all Americans could move in to it and then they could blow the earth up and take care of that pesky illegal immigration problem in one shot. Then we could be the ultimate power in the universe lol.
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So, I've been doing some research on this, and there are a lot of misconceptions about this that need to be cleared up.
First, this seems to only apply to new phones sold after the effective date. Second, this by itself does not make unlocking a phone illegal. This decision simply states that the DMCA doesn't grant an automatic exemption to unlocking according to the interpretation of the Library of Congress, not that it's illegal. That means that the carriers can sue people for unlocking if they choose to do so, and it would then be up to the court to decide whether or not it's legal.
What would happen if it did go to court? The EFF would likely step forward to help the defense of the first defendant. Possibly other groups as well. The carriers and their industry groups would fund the prosecution. In the current legal landscape, it would likely be decided favor of the carriers, however, despite what you're reading, that hasn't actually been decided yet.
https://www.eff.org/is-it-illegal-to-unlock-a-phone
Yes Verizon has had phones that only work on their network... My HTC Eris didn't have a removable sim card.
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justjayhere said:
Yes Verizon has had phones that only work on their network... My HTC Eris didn't have a removable sim card.
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Because it's a CDMA phone, they don't use sim cards.
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SIM unlock becomes illegal

Anyone heard about this? Any thoughts?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/01/24/unlocked-cell-phones-will-be-illegal-in-us/
It's my phone. I'll do what I want with it. If they have a problem with that then they can come knock on my door. Trying to regulate this is a lost cause.
NamDark said:
Anyone heard about this? Any thoughts?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/01/24/unlocked-cell-phones-will-be-illegal-in-us/
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From the way that I understand it, anyone who pays full price or fulfills their contract will be able to unlock the phone. Subsidized phones that are still within the terms of the subsidy are the ones affected (which at this time will include virtually all AT&T LGOG users).
johnbyebye said:
It's my phone. I'll do what I want with it. If they have a problem with that then they can come knock on my door. Trying to regulate this is a lost cause.
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^this.
Currently on a unlocked LGOG with T-Mobile
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Jakeroxs said:
^this.
Currently on a unlocked LGOG with T-Mobile
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yo man so.... hsdpa/+ does it work on tmobile? are you on edge? did you flash another radio?or are you using the 1900mhz band?, i have many questions.
It's illegal to buy an unlock code. People with a carrier, such as AT&T, carrier and have owned the device for 30+ days can get the code legally from said carrier. I'm all for this, though. Makes it all the more pointless for people to steal devices.
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