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As for the performance and speed, Iphone is good.The looks also is fantastic and stylish.If you are a music lover, the ipod function w/ builtin 8gb or 4 gb storage is good enough to play your favorite songs for long time. Touch & scrolling is fantastic. So for me iphone is a simple phone, ipod & very less PDA function. Why? a lot of us is using Windows Mobile since we have PC mobile. Iphone is a OS X system, a system based from MAC OS. You can count the program that iphone have that you use before. I need Isilo but this program cant run to Iphone. The only advantage I can see is the safari browser & youtube. If you are on the wifi, browsing thru ur iphone is superb. That's it. The only main thing here is the HYPE of having an Iphone. Yet I can say that it will now give you so much headache regarding bugs except to 3rdparty program that not yet really made for iphone. To be fair, Iphone is a great phone with IPOD, period ;-) Maybe after more months, we can now enjoy a lot of program on iphone that we use to enjoy in our windows mobile.
Well About XDA ATOM (Atom Pure for me) , this is one of the goodwindows mobile i've seen. This became great because of Jiggs ROM. No more words i can say, in terms of PDA function and everything, this is great PDA Phone. There are cons but as a whole package its good. In my own opinion, its better than HTC touch. IF i compare this in IPHONE, this have a better PDA function.
So the conclusion, which one you want to buy? or which one will stay on ur palm. Its up to your needs and wants. IT's UR CHOICE, both have good side.
Thats why i have both;-) hehehe just kidding.
One of the thing about music is.. how much music can it play? I'm using Storage card, and default WMP, which gives me about 20% battery per hour. So, that is, if I have a full charge, and wanted to leave 20% of battery for the phone function, that would take me.. about 4 hours. It may be less than that because that time, I was on the train, which it gets connect/disconnect which may make it to 4.5 - 5 hours. How does the iPhone one this? Consider their 8G capacity.
However, having said, with all the functionality of WM phone, I still think the non-instant, hour-clock waiting of WM is still an issue. A lot of Palm users like to stick to Palm mainly due to the fact that Palm OS has an instant responds (most of the time).. rather than WM's short wait.
hanmin said:
One of the thing about music is.. how much music can it play? I'm using Storage card, and default WMP, which gives me about 20% battery per hour. So, that is, if I have a full charge, and wanted to leave 20% of battery for the phone function, that would take me.. about 4 hours. It may be less than that because that time, I was on the train, which it gets connect/disconnect which may make it to 4.5 - 5 hours. How does the iPhone one this? Consider their 8G capacity.
However, having said, with all the functionality of WM phone, I still think the non-instant, hour-clock waiting of WM is still an issue. A lot of Palm users like to stick to Palm mainly due to the fact that Palm OS has an instant responds (most of the time).. rather than WM's short wait.
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continously you can play your music for 20-24hrs ...for videos, around 2movies and not more than that.
internet use for 5-6hours
pda freaks like us may find the iphone lacking with the 3th party software limitations but that could change but there are still many more wm apps out now
for
normal phone users
i think they miss t9 and maybe mms
but i does look cool though
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pda freaks like us may find the iphone lacking with the 3th party software limitations but that could change but there are still many more wm apps out now
for
normal phone users
i think they miss t9 and maybe mms
but i does look cool though
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yes its true...
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wow all moderators are coming to comment on this. Do you love IPHONE? hehehe
love it a strong word
but i think many of us like that new innovation and competition is brougth to the table to keep ms, htc and the rest on their toes
yeah, this will make other pda brand and maker be better and compete to iphone. Look out HTC, they introduce TOUCH. well having an iphone to the market benefits the consumer not only iphone users.
how about an I-phone with Windows mobile as an os,,is this possible?
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how about an I-phone with Windows mobile as an os,,is this possible?
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very illogical...do u think APPLE will create a product with Microsoft software? is like asking that Coca cola will have a package of Pepsi.
yes.. microsoft will create some special
could be part the of Microsoft Deepfish project
http://labs.live.com/deepfish/
By the way.. whats the cost of an unlocked Iphone.. I bought atom for 200$ (usd)
i phone cost
ironeagle said:
By the way.. whats the cost of an unlocked Iphone.. I bought atom for 200$ (usd)
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iphone cost in india is RS.27000
ironeagle said:
By the way.. whats the cost of an unlocked Iphone.. I bought atom for 200$ (usd)
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i bought this thru online for 600$ including Int'l shipment but here in UAE it is expensive in the market , unlocked price is 3800 AED = 1100$
jeffkewin said:
yes.. microsoft will create some special
could be part the of Microsoft Deepfish project
http://labs.live.com/deepfish/
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this is only for web browsing...not really a good thing
generalriden said:
i bought this thru online for 600$ including Int'l shipment but here in UAE it is expensive in the market , unlocked price is 3800 AED = 1100$
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Would you mind sharing the online site?.. thanks in advance..
"could be part the of Microsoft Deepfish project"
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6809.html
hope they dident can it then
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Would you mind sharing the online site?.. thanks in advance..
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the one who i get an order is from US yet have 3rd party in Dubai for coordination. i tried ebay also, a little higher. So i prefer this person. there is also some adds here that have the same cost.
iphone problems and solutions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339945
i just make a new thread to for the troubleshooting of iphone
O2 XDA Flame Against Apple iPhone Comparison
http://www.iphoneworld.ca/iphone-editorials/2007/02/20/o2-xda-flame-against-apple-iphone-comparison/
o2 XDA flame compare to IPHONE...LOL how about our XDA atom? hehehe
O2 ATOM is better!
Form factor, O2 ATOM is actually smaller compared to the IPHONE; eventhough the IPHONE is alot slimmer.
O2 ATOM is pretty nice to hold once I put the black rubberized covers on it to protect it.
The cool things I like about the ATOM are -
1) Its on a platform that provides lots of apps to play with.
2) I like the fact that our ATOM has A2DP which allows for Stereo bluetooth headphones.
3) The Radio function is really nice to have.
4) Now with HTC Touch cube working on the ATOM, its for finger friendly than before and easier to navigate around apps, etc.
5) With the new HTC T9 Keypad, I can SMS without using my stylus anymore!
ATOM is a all-round champion for its price and features/functions!
The smooth IPhone graphics is overrated anyway. Plus there's alot of copy-cat apps that mimic the Iphone themes on PocketPC environment.
Plus I find the Iphone a little too long for my liking. ATOM is still nice to hold and comes with a pretty zippy processor!
Works fine with me. SEE --->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQNR...0%99t-support-it_2166&feature=player_embedded
http://www.permian.com.cn/en/Solution_01.asp
Regards Patrick
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Works fine with me. SEE --->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQNR...0%99t-support-it_2166&feature=player_embedded
http://www.permian.com.cn/en/Solution_01.asp
Regards Patrick
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were can i buy it???!!!!!!
very intresting, shame it doesnt support DVB-T just yet
i want i want !! too bad no DVB-T support yet.
Looks awesome, but at the moment this seems to be targeted mostly for Korean market, since the availability of DAB/T signal around the world is usually still in test phase and located mostly only in large cities.
If they can pull of similar device with DVB, I'm guessing they would rock the world for owners of Touch HD, Omnia, X1 etc.
TV
The one for EU market is under develpment. I'm running a test case for now and is doing well. I keep you informed.
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The one for EU market is under develpment. I'm running a test case for now and is doing well. I keep you informed.
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Does it work on DVB? Any info is appreciated!
hi,
is there any estimation on price? because it seems to be a very intresting solution and instead of a small lcd..I would buy such accessory... so it depends on the price
Guys,
This one does not support DVBT but it has internal antenna.
http://www.nokia.com/NOKIA_COM_1/Pr...ata_sheet_Nokia_Mobile_TV_Receiver_SU_33W.pdf
That quality. I want one.
And I love the poses the bloke does when walking around with it!!!
Just hope Toshiba will make this another fiasco.
http://www.digitalone.com.sg/multimedia/photo/multimedia/655
Already posted in the Folio thread...
Toshiba is very new to Android!
But i agree that their support for software issues on Folio is equal to null!
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Just hope Toshiba will make this another fiasco.
http://www.digitalone.com.sg/multimedia/photo/multimedia/655
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Buyer beware, try before buy.
Sure, just like the Folio it might have great hardware (except screen) but I
would not trust.
Every 10" Android has ****ty screen and bad software. They may be able to replace the screen, add $200 to the price and place Honeycomb on it but will
that mean its bugfree ??
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Buyer beware, try before buy.
Sure, just like the Folio it might have great hardware (except screen) but I
would not trust.
Every 10" Android has ****ty screen and bad software. They may be able to replace the screen, add $200 to the price and place Honeycomb on it but will
that mean its bugfree ??
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We are talking about a new OS on new hardware, most sure that it will have serious bugs. The problem is not the bugs, because most of software have bugs and android is no exception, the problem is that Toshiba is not interested as far as we know to correct it, if they were interested Folio will be working fine by now.
But software development is not only about correcting errors but also about improvement. I don't see any of it from Toshiba until now.
screw the new folio! i'd love to see THIS INSANE GUI ported to our folio
"we recorded a blazing 2,616 score on the Quadrant test" <- *giggle*
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screw the new folio! i'd love to see THIS INSANE GUI ported to our folio
"we recorded a blazing 2,616 score on the Quadrant test" <- *giggle*
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This guys are using a one (with a tegra 2 inside) to powerup a deskop enviroment! This is brilliant!
This sure demonstrate that Folio as enough power to have decent software running in it! To sad that Toshiba doesn't understand this!
And isn't Honeycomb is Froyo!
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This guys are using a one (with a tegra 2 inside) to powerup a deskop enviroment! This is brilliant!
This sure demonstrate that Folio as enough power to have decent software running in it! To sad that Toshiba doesn't understand this!
And isn't Honeycomb is Froyo!
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Man, think about the possibilities if we have honeycomb and some software like this.
Than we would be possible to use our folio as desktop by using the dock and connecting to a tv or pc screen
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Man, think about the possibilities if we have honeycomb and some software like this.
Than we would be possible to use our folio as desktop by using the dock and connecting to a tv or pc screen
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it's froyo
I think this new folio looks great. Only hope the device building material won't be as cheap as our folio...
Does this new tablet got a name ?
More rumors here
Who would thrust Toshiba again?
I won't. They don't support their products. Hardware wise they are okay, but what's the purpose of having a tablet if it doesn't work well with the shipped software. We are still waitting for official flash support. Thank God we have FolioMod!
Many manufactures are suffering from this same problems, good hardware but aweful software.
Sure is pretty, but will it be usable?
what is its cpu?
While we wait for the Xperia U to have its own forum, we can do like the P guys and burglarize the Xperia S thread for a while.
The phone has picked some serious steam in Spain, because one carrier has launched a very aggressive campaign of phone subsidies which actually makes this phone free if you pay a 24 month contract which amounts to 10 dollars per month. With that subsidy, the subsidized phone costs actually less in the long run than the sim-unlocked one. Given that it totally destroys the likes of Oprimus L3, Galaxy Ace and other low end phones, it's flying from the shelves. In my case, I'm trading my Sensation with one of those phones. It's a pity, as I won't be able to run custom firmware or anything, but I think the trade off is acceptable.
I've read in a Chinese forum that the way to get in Flash mode is by keeping pressed VolDown while connecting the device to the computer. The latest Flashtool seems to recognize it. Once I get the phone I'll try to make an FTF file with whatever comes out of SEUS.
Is there anyone else with the phone who wishes to speak their wisdom?
Swypesation
My opinion
Had a play with both the P and U the other day and can safely say I made right choice with the S. Yes fastboot or flash mode is either hold vol up or down. The u looks ok and is a nice size ( looks like a mobile disco ) but the lag is horrid, why Sony did you use nova. And the P is so close to the S (size, looks) but yet so far away from the standard and specs (like getting the car you want but getting the cheapest package without aircon or electric windows). All I can say is good luck and hope you don't miss your Xperia play to much @logseman
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_u-4437.php
Is this a joke or the xperia U has 4GB storage with no memory card?????????
We should not moan about the specs of the U, it's a low end device meant for people who want just a messaging phone with access to applications.
Not everyone has the need for the high end speced out phones you know.
Gingerbread is the only real drawback of the phone. It's tired and needs to be retired.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_u-4437.php
Is this a joke or the xperia U has 4GB storage with no memory card?????????
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Lol,unfortunately that is true. Don't know how Sony missed out on this when it came to the U..
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My opinion
Had a play with both the P and U the other day and can safely say I made right choice with the S. Yes fastboot or flash mode is either hold vol up or down. The u looks ok and is a nice size ( looks like a mobile disco ) but the lag is horrid, why Sony did you use nova. And the P is so close to the S (size, looks) but yet so far away from the standard and specs (like getting the car you want but getting the cheapest package without aircon or electric windows). All I can say is good luck and hope you don't miss your Xperia play to much @logseman
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While the MWC videos are not as dramatic as you're portraying, lag is not a huge issue for me anymore, as I won't be playing many games on this fellow.
Thanks for the good wishes. I hope I'll be able to contribute a little bit here as I did in the Play forum
The phone does have 4 GB of accessible storage. It's the way Sony has to tell you "Buy the P". I'm not too bothered as we have a roomy system partition unlike in the Xperia Play.
Swypesation
Double post,extremely sorry.
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Isn't the U supposed to be getting an ICS update as well? Is it as bad as you guys are saying it is?
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Isn't the U supposed to be getting an ICS update as well? Is it as bad as you guys are saying it is?
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The U will be getting ICS. The videos I've seen were convincing for me, and people have not complained about lag where I'm reading reports. It's true that GB is a let down, and I hope ICS will unleash the phone's real power.
You see, I just am not comfortable with the Sensation, it's nice but it heats way too much and the battery life is crud. This little feller should hold the line a wee bit longer.
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zodiac100 said:
We should not moan about the specs of the U, it's a low end device meant for people who want just a messaging phone with access to applications.
Not everyone has the need for the high end speced out phones you know.
Gingerbread is the only real drawback of the phone. It's tired and needs to be retired.
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Actually the xperia U just goes to show that sony has lost any business sense. Why would someone who wants a messaging phone with access to applications buy a dual core phone anyways? A single core phone with a bigger screen would actually be a better phone for that purpose.
Imagine people buying this phone without looking up it's specs, it's gonna happen and it's only gonna hurt the sony brand. And quite frankly cant blame people for that, I really wouldnt ever expect such a ridiculous limitation in a phone like this.
@ALL: It's actually 8GB, with at least (sic!) 4GB available to the user.
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@ALL: It's actually 8GB, with at least (sic!) 4GB available to the user.
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That is still a big let-down.
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Poor marketing choice indeed. I am personally a Sony fan now but can't help noticing that the Japanese don't really have a good business sense. 16GB is also a limitation but only some people will be irked by that and the rest of the public will be fine with it. 8GB is unacceptable but 4GB is simply intolerable. Everyone who has a decent music collection will run out of space too quick. I am personally in favour of making the phone thicker and giving a bit more additional internal storage space, removable battery and a microSD card slot
Even my x8 got memory slot...
Wow Sony u begin to s8ck...
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I am not gonna say anything about the 4GB memory "disaster"
@XU owners
Can anyone of you post camera samples ? Wanna see how good the camera is. Have read good things about the camera in most places.
Can the dual core processor handle games well on the SXU?
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I don't see why not. Mali 400 MP GPU on the XU is plenty powerful. Almost as powerful as the Adreno 220 on our XS Plus it has to deal with a lower screen resolution (FWVGA)
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Can the dual core processor handle games well on the SXU?
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I've had a chance to play with a demo unit yesterday. Runs nice, no UI lag, really fast and 6GB of storage. For the price it's one hell of a phone.
well im a proud owner of one
good camera, decent quality...perfect for a quick snap....
great video recording...very nice 720p videos...
no lags what so ever....ui is fine...
VERY GOOD 3d performance..... both psx emulators and n64 emulators work at a steady 50-60fps on both with graphics intensive roms...(spiderman, mario 64,revolt)
gta 3 runs flawlessly with zero lags...
quadrant scores it above the galaxy nexus.
good sound quality, decently loud speakers.
battery lasts 1.5 days with some 3d gaming and browsing and music.
u can get an xperia s battery for it (same battery model)...even 1900mah batteries are available one ebay.com (model: ba600)
total 8gb internal storage. 4gb user-accessable, 2gb for android, 2gb for apps.
usb otg works great...tried my joystick on it
looks sexy!
i thinks its perfect in every way...for its price range atleast.
only thing is storage. but i plan to keep my music and movies in a pendrive, and carry it with me...and plug it in when i need to...sounds convenient actualy
other than that it blows its competitors out of the water!
trust me worth buying...
the only thing it needs is root....anyone willing to help me root it?
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well im a proud owner of one
good camera, decent quality...perfect for a quick snap....
great video recording...very nice 720p videos...
no lags what so ever....ui is fine...
VERY GOOD 3d performance..... both psx emulators and n64 emulators work at a steady 50-60fps on both with graphics intensive roms...(spiderman, mario 64,revolt)
gta 3 runs flawlessly with zero lags...
quadrant scores it above the galaxy nexus.
good sound quality, decently loud speakers.
battery lasts 1.5 days with some 3d gaming and browsing and music.
u can get an xperia s battery for it (same battery model)...even 1900mah batteries are available one ebay.com (model: ba600)
total 8gb internal storage. 4gb user-accessable, 2gb for android, 2gb for apps.
usb otg works great...tried my joystick on it
looks sexy!
i thinks its perfect in every way...for its price range atleast.
only thing is storage. but i plan to keep my music and movies in a pendrive, and carry it with me...and plug it in when i need to...sounds convenient actualy
other than that it blows its competitors out of the water!
trust me worth buying...
the only thing it needs is root....anyone willing to help me root it?
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Nice to hear this and what others are saying.. Looks like ill have to purchase one.. Very good for the price I suppose..
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How much faster is Nexus 7 compare to HTC Flyer for real world usage.
I've been using Flyer for about a year now and it's seem to be very slow to me, especially when surfing websites.
Can Nexus handle flash better with Quad cores and all?
I want to know if it worth giving away my Flyer and buy Nexus 7. If it's not too much different, then I'll just keep the flyer.
I've had both and TBH with my Flyer being overclocked to 1.84 GHZ I can notice no difference between the two in smoothness when browsing, tweeting, reading..etc
That said though, JB and quad core does make a difference ofcourse, especially when games are concerned.
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How much faster is Nexus 7 compare to HTC Flyer for real world usage.
I've been using Flyer for about a year now and it's seem to be very slow to me, especially when surfing websites.
Can Nexus handle flash better with Quad cores and all?
I want to know if it worth giving away my Flyer and buy Nexus 7. If it's not too much different, then I'll just keep the flyer.
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I don't know about the Nexus 7, but for your Flyer, you may want to try the Puffin Browser off of the Android Market/Google Play before you buy another tablet. It sped my web surfing up tremendously. The company suggests trying the free version of the app first.
Also, u may want to search Nexus 7 + flash. I've read that it doesn't natively support flash (not certain), but hopefully that's nothing that a downloaded app can't fix.
I have great browsing with Boat browser.
Trust me its a huge speed difference. You guys saying its barely noticeable are just lieing to yourselves. Its like comparing choppiness to butter. Yea there similar alright. Cmon now.
Aside from speed the flyer has a full 7 inch screen in complete use (gingerbread only) and a nice pen function going for it.
yeah gotta agree with you. nexus 7 is faster. That feeling when I use my brother's Nexus7 and then i go back using my flyer ><
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yeah gotta agree with you. nexus 7 is faster. That feeling when I use my brother's Nexus7 and then i go back using my flyer ><
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Im in the EXACT situation haha
Flyer good...Nexus incredible!
I've had my Flyer for over a year and have been fighting rom issues since then, it is workable (except GPS...Shame on you HTC for not fixing this!). Side by side -I've had my Nexus for 3 days now, the nexus screen is brighter,better contrast- whites now look slightly yellowed on the Flyer. Nexus speed is much better(expected), BT, GPS, & WiFi all operate flawlessly. I am using a usb adaptor cable from Amazon ($2.00)! to further expand storage and also connects to other devices for file transfer and viewing.Battery life on the Flyer was a solid 4.5 hours with constant video loop running- I expect 2/3 to twice the run time with the Nexus. I have a rooted-32g Nexus...couldn't be happier at this point!
Final note- I side loaded Flash and it works well with Firefox Beta.:fingers-crossed: Update:Boat browser is very fast and stable, I usually have to reboot my Flyer a couple of times a day due to lag or sometimes freezing...not so with the Nexus.
The two aren't even comparable. The N7 blows the flyer/view4g away in every aspect. I have the Veiw4g and the N7, and I don't even use the view anymore. It's so slow and crappy, it's not even worth it. If you are thinking about getting the N7, just do it. The flyer is dated now, and it's not going to get any fast no matter what you do.
Oh, and as far as media consumption goes, the N7 can actually handle everything I throw at it. I can't even watch my vulkano in anything more than low res on the view. But the N7 I can put it to it's highest quality setting and it works great. Same with Hulu, and Netflix. As well as streamed content from my HTPC.
I've played with the N7 at stores and it's pretty nice.
If Someone gave me one for free, I probably would use my flyer drastically less.
However, as much as I want project butter on my flyer I find that it would probably be a waste of money for me to personally upgrade. I'll still do the same stuff with either device.. Browse web, facebook, read books, and avoid pulling out a netbook when I can. So it raises the question why upgrade if I have a perfectly working device?
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The two aren't even comparable. The N7 blows the flyer/view4g away in every aspect. I have the Veiw4g and the N7, and I don't even use the view anymore. It's so slow and crappy, it's not even worth it. If you are thinking about getting the N7, just do it. The flyer is dated now, and it's not going to get any fast no matter what you do.
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You sir are corect N7 blows but not Flyer away but simply BLOWS; with no SD card, no stereo sound, no vibra, no front camera, no pen, no HW buttons; so wjhat extra from cpu and scree is there left at all? No sim?
So that means:
limited to no small amount of space
Cant do videocalls (good luck with mirrors)
No silent alert wheil in classes, meetings ect...
Less screen
ect ect...
For mine usage of device it BLOWS unlike Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 wich is quite nice; more up to date device then Flyer and has that "magic" JB/ICS, wich Flyer doesent; but even with the JB ports we do have for Flyer we have more working hardware then Nexus have. And good luck with rearlly suported tegra games.
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You sir are corect N7 blows but not Flyer away but simply BLOWS; with no SD card, no stereo sound, no vibra, no front camera, no pen, no HW buttons; so wjhat extra from cpu and scree is there left at all? No sim?
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Umm, they are coming out with a 3g N7, you realize that, right? The sound between the two is comparable, as I HAVE both. Is having vibrate really necessary on a tablet? And it has a front camera, just no rear camera? I'm beginning to wonder if you have even used the device. It has a front camera specifically for video calls. HW buttons are a matter of preference, but not a necessity. The pen I will give you, but when you can't even get HTC to FIX the crap they broke with the update, IT"S NOT WORTH DEALING WITH IT. I will never own another HTC device after HTC screwed us over on the tablets. (not to mention the year wait on getting ICS on my old Tbolt, or 8 months for the rezound I bought) The SD card missing is a downer, but there are many workarounds that it's not a total loss. There is WIFI storage sharing (so I can use the 80GB I have on my phone between it's 64GB sd and 16 internal) Then there is USB OTG.
So that means:
limited to no small amount of spaceYou are not limited, just not as easy to add storage as with the flyer/View
Cant do videocalls (good luck with mirrors)This is just flat wrong
No silent alert wheil in classes, meetings ect... Really? It doesn't have a LED, but it does still "alert", just on screen. How many alerts do you have set up on your tab? I have almost none. Mostly calendar appt's and such.
Less screenHow? If there is a difference(16:9 vs 16:10) its a matter of a .1 inch or so.
ect ect...
For mine usage of device it BLOWS unlike Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 wich is quite nice; more up to date device then Flyer and has that "magic" JB/ICS, wich Flyer doesent; but even with the JB ports we do have for Flyer we have more working hardware then Nexus have. And good luck with rearlly suported tegra games.
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I don't play games, but I haven't seen anything it can't do yet. I would like to know how you figure there is more working hardware on the JB ports to the flyer/view than the N7? You have a rear camera/SD card. that's it. I have both. (actually, I have all three. View/Flyer/N7. The flyer is my Fiancees. and I have the View/N7.
Snow_fox said:
I've played with the N7 at stores and it's pretty nice.
If Someone gave me one for free, I probably would use my flyer drastically less.
However, as much as I want project butter on my flyer I find that it would probably be a waste of money for me to personally upgrade. I'll still do the same stuff with either device.. Browse web, facebook, read books, and avoid pulling out a netbook when I can. So it raises the question why upgrade if I have a perfectly working device?
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i am in the same exact situation. i have a device that serves my needs (well i could benefit from bluetooth on the JB rom) and i keep looking for reasons to justify upgrading
1454 said:
Umm, they are coming out with a 3g N7, you realize that, right?
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cool but there is still non so it even lacks on 3g wich i didnt listed...
1454 said:
The sound between the two is comparable, as I HAVE both.
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is comperable ofc but when u cant hear diference between stereo and mono i would recomend some examination of hearing
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Is having vibrate really necessary on a tablet?
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yes i need it badlly as i use mine 7'' tab for phone functionalities as well
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And it has a front camera, just no rear camera? I'm beginning to wonder if you have even used the device. It has a front camera specifically for video calls.
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I dont owe device i used it once when i was deciding wich second tab to buy and i decided for Samsung Galaxy 2 7''. Sorry since i forgot wich camera it does not have; but point stays - lacks on camera. Now ask me if we need it.. Do we need a tab?
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HW buttons are a matter of preference, but not a necessity.
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As nothing is NECESSERY - i simply love them and missing them on SGTAB 2. Hiting HOME when u in full scree app helps a lot with time and pressing.
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The pen I will give you, but when you can't even get HTC to FIX the crap they broke with the update, IT"S NOT WORTH DEALING WITH IT. I will never own another HTC device after HTC screwed us over on the tablets. (not to mention the year wait on getting ICS on my old Tbolt, or 8 months for the rezound I bought)
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U think i am happy with that?
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The SD card missing is a downer, but there are many workarounds that it's not a total loss. There is WIFI storage sharing (so I can use the 80GB I have on my phone between it's 64GB sd and 16 internal) Then there is USB OTG.
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Workaraund - i have superfast internet wire and PC to browse fast... What has that to do with mine Flyer or N7?
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I don't play games, but I haven't seen anything it can't do yet.
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I cant give u sdcard to share u mine documents with is prity common on all mobiel devices. U cant film your gf or take pic of her, u cant draw or handwrite, no way to listen to quality music since onlly suporting 1 chanel insted of minimum 2 for stereo.
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I would like to know how you figure there is more working hardware on the JB ports to the flyer/view than the N7? You have a rear camera/SD card. that's it. I have both. (actually, I have all three. View/Flyer/N7. The flyer is my Fiancees. and I have the View/N7.
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CORECTOMUNDO - u did figure it already with rear camera working SD slot but u forgot the pen and hw buttons we have stereo sound as well on JB and vibra working. All this is working on Flyer loaded with JB and is something N7 wont EVER have. Never Ever.
All i am saying is for what i need tab N7 sucks. Now if your onlly use of tab is a bit faster browsing i guess N7 is a winer buy. I unfortunally expect more. And there is much N7 does simplly not offer. Its not cheap for no reason I wont go into ghosting and cracking screens...
Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
j510 said:
Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Right under his name it says "Location: Velenje"
I'm guessing his main language isn't english.
Pro-tip: Don't ask him to fix his english.
GMAN1722 said:
i am in the same exact situation. i have a device that serves my needs (well i could benefit from bluetooth on the JB rom) and i keep looking for reasons to justify upgrading
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Yeah, I still honestly love the build quality on the flyer and it still has a relatively nice screen.
Since you are on the JB rom, I need to ask did they get the screen to turn off properly yet? That was the only thing holding me back personally. As long as it has good battery life I am really considering using it.
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Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Not arguing just saying mine points about flyer and n7 since some overrating and only a few good points about n7 beeing presented wheil only bad ones about flyer beeing pointed out. Looking forward to hear from you and where i posted any missleads or lies or non valid points.
As for mine english : yes i could put more time into what i am posting but hey looks like u understand right. Hows your Slovenian? I did something in mine life to understand u, what u did to understand me?
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Yeah, I still honestly love the build quality on the flyer and it still has a relatively nice screen.
Since you are on the JB rom, I need to ask did they get the screen to turn off properly yet? That was the only thing holding me back personally. As long as it has good battery life I am really considering using it.
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if you are referring to the backlight remaining on after locking the screen - it still occurs quite often. however, if i turn it on and off a few times it eventually completely turns off (can be quite annoying) i am really not sure of the battery life as i basically keep the flyer charged.
P.S. I recently had a few random reboots ( but only once while I was actually using it ) and it won't play HD YouTube - not that big o f a deal to me
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