So I just realized that my phones been using tons of mobile data. I was under the impression that Wi-Fi supersedes data if both are enabled? I tested it out and it's still using mobile data while Wi-Fi is on.
Anyone know what the deal is or if one of my Wi-Fi settings is causing it?
I'm on Verizon S4 GPE ROM. 4.4.3.
Try going to settings/data usage and see what's using the data. Also, while WiFi is on your mobile days shouldn't be being used.
Triscuit said:
Try going to settings/data usage and see what's using the data. Also, while WiFi is on your mobile days shouldn't be being used.
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There's a few things : play music, Facebook, g+, etc. Most of it is music.
Strangely, I have Play Music set to stream, etc. Only on Wi-Fi.
Unless the see data usage app in settings is also reporting Wi-Fi data
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Hey people!
I will have mobile data for the first time next week, and I would like to know something.
Basically, as far as I know, mobile data is automatically turned off by Android when connected to a wi-fi. Now, my phone is a nexus 4, and since I have limited storage, I use a wi-fi external hard drive, which means I am always connected to wi-fi on the road. Now, if I want to use mobile data while I'm connected to a wi-fi network, is there a way to make it work?
Thanks a lot!
Yup, using DroidWall (free app) you can decide which apps can connect to the WiFi (you can block them all, and only allow specific apps).
Thanks a lot for the suggestion, going to look into that!
Update: Droidwall doesn't work the way I'd like it to. I can indeed block access to wi-fi for certain apps, but my mobile data remains deactivated. Is there a way to use mobile data if I'm connected to a wi-fi on a rooted n4?
I want to limit children phone usage. Now I use combination: Avast, Norton Family, Datalock and Applock. This works fine when using only mobile network. Other child doesn't have mobile data, only wifi. I couldn't find app to limit data in wifi, anybody know any?
If someone would make app that combines most of this, parents would be potential byers.
texbuxer said:
I want to limit children phone usage. Now I use combination: Avast, Norton Family, Datalock and Applock. This works fine when using only mobile network. Other child doesn't have mobile data, only wifi. I couldn't find app to limit data in wifi, anybody know any?
If someone would make app that combines most of this, parents would be potential byers.
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There are some apps to watch data usage:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEwOSwiZGVtby5nYWxtb29yaS5kYXRhdXNhZ2UiXQ..
But there is a way to set data usage:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/google-android/3443819/set-data-usage-limit-on-android/
I a recent conversation posted to @BeansTown106, where I stated that the note 3's (using 4.4.2) affinity for simultaneously running wifi and mobile data in some cases. I raised concerns, and @BeansTown106 stated a couple of things about what I saw...
1. In 4.4.2, the way the OS presents the mobile icon (keeping it visible) while wifi is on, is normal -
2. I asked if there was a security issue if both were on, and he did not think so - also hinting that if wifi is on (and connected) mobile data is not.
ok
However, I am discovering that wifi and mobile data are being interfered with in a few cases - I ask anyone with knowledge of this to step forward to qualify what I am about to say...
two apps play a role and force wifi / mobile data to be engaged at the same time. or, they affect the cutover from mobile data to wifi...
1. an application called Galaxy Locker (replacement lock screen) - when installed on 4.4.2 interferes with wifi and mobile data - if the application is set to run, it will prevent turning off mobile data if wifi is turned on...
2. The caller ID (canid.apk) application that Verizon is including in their standard app package - either solely uses mobile data only or has the same impact the other application does, and both wifi and mobile data stay on
both ridiculously annoying and eat your data plan needlessly...
having said all that I will end with a general statement -
I have not seen an application truly fail in 4.4.2, they generally weather well, with no problem - with the exception of the dreaded Skype issue eating battery.
But generally speaking, an application may seem to work, but not really be compatible and cause unexpected behavior - this is not a revelation, right?
If you are expecting your phone to act a certain way and cannot find the issue. start either eliminating apps or temporarily turn them off and see if your phone does better...
general comment about 4.2.2 (NC2) -
I like it. Yes, I have done a mass debloat job for sure, wherever possible de-Samsunged, de-googled, and definitely de-Verizoned where possible. I even removed hangouts, and gmail and most of the google framework - after I added all the essential applications from the play store followed by removing my google account from the phone - it runs fantastic, no on-the-surface issues / errors
my note 3 4.4.2 is leaned out -
all-in-all I removed about 650MB from system/apps / system/priv-app, and data/app - and I have excellent battery life, fast charging, use the true Hardware GPS (with no Verizon location services involved - thanks to power toggles gps toggle feature). Yep, that's right, in note 3 (4.4.2), if you opt to use GPS only in location settings it still engages Verizon location services too - they lied about gps only... it's not. but with power toggles it does in fact ONLY use the hardware GPS with accuracy between 6 to 10 to 13 ft - usually 10ft though most of the time.
So, for those who are having trouble with kitkat - not sure what you are doing, but it is fast IMO
I want to add one more thing about this behavior. It has been present on TouchWiz devices since the 4.3 update, both on the Note 3 and 2 (and Galaxy S I am assuming). Back on 4.1, the data connection was fully disabled when wifi was connected. At that time the only network connection would be 1X, not even 3G or LTE. Since 4.3, wifi connected does not disable 3G and LTE. I originally noticed because I only used wifi in low signal areas where mobile data killed my battery, but it didn't seem to help since 4.3.
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So you ripped out all or most of the google stuff and suddenly your phone runs great. But how is it not completely useless? Why on earth would you rip out all the SMS apps? You de-googled, de-samsunged, and de-verizoned your phone and you're left with what exactly? By my reckoning the phone should be basically useless without any of the software from these 3 companies.
I guess I'm curious why you wouldn't just flash and AOKP rom and be done with it? Or, you know, buy a nexus device.
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I want to add one more thing about this behavior. It has been present on TouchWiz devices since the 4.3 update, both on the Note 3 and 2 (and Galaxy S I am assuming). Back on 4.1, the data connection was fully disabled when wifi was connected. At that time the only network connection would be 1X, not even 3G or LTE. Since 4.3, wifi connected does not disable 3G and LTE. I originally noticed because I only used wifi in low signal areas where mobile data killed my battery, but it didn't seem to help since 4.3.
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I have a rooted, somewhat debloated, but otherwise stock 4.3 (MJE) that does turn off (disconnect) mobile data network when wifi is connected to a hotspot. Both the mobile data icon in the notification bar goes away and settings->about->status Mobile Network State shows disconnected. And battery life is 20 to 30% better.
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Did you keep a list of what you removed?
donc113 said:
I have a rooted, somewhat debloated, but otherwise stock 4.3 (MJE) that does turn off (disconnect) mobile data network when wifi is connected to a hotspot. Both the mobile data icon in the notification bar goes away and settings->about->status Mobile Network State shows disconnected. And battery life is 20 to 30% better.
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Mobile network state may be disconnected, but what does Mobile network type show?
Are you talking about how the wifi stays on under the battery settings?
That can be turned off under wifi advance.
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Mobile network state may be disconnected, but what does Mobile network type show?
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Mobile Network Type is always LTE, even if I turn Mobile Data off in setup. I believe that references the type of tower I am connected to (CDMA or LTE) only....whether I have data via the mobile network or not.
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Did you keep a list of what you removed?
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I turned off in App Manager or froze them via Titanium Backup....I didn't actually remove them. I also have a 32Gb external card...so have tons of room so for ME...no need to delete.
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donc113 said:
Mobile Network Type is always LTE, even if I turn Mobile Data off in setup. I believe that references the type of tower I am connected to (CDMA or LTE) only....whether I have data via the mobile network or not.
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I turned off in App Manager or froze them via Titanium Backup....I didn't actually remove them. I also have a 32Gb external card...so have tons of room so for ME...no need to delete.
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Just keep in mind that some apps keep running even if you freeze them, the only way to truly remove them is to delete them.
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Just keep in mind that some apps keep running even if you freeze them, the only way to truly remove them is to delete them.
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True...but I have checked the running list and they don't show up.
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not exactly...
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So you ripped out all or most of the google stuff and suddenly your phone runs great. But how is it not completely useless? Why on earth would you rip out all the SMS apps? You de-googled, de-samsunged, and de-verizoned your phone and you're left with what exactly? By my reckoning the phone should be basically useless without any of the software from these 3 companies.
I guess I'm curious why you wouldn't just flash and AOKP rom and be done with it? Or, you know, buy a nexus device.
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I had setup my apps that I want, and then removed the frameworks and the applications (google, Samsung, Verizon**) -
** there are some basic apps I use, like My Verizon / Voicemail - the essentials, that's it. I found a way to not engage location (real gps, not Verizon location services or google services)
I use Samsung's phone / sms etc...
So, what am I left with -
I am left with a phone that is closer to "just" a phone. There are apps, but basic apps...
Why does the 4G stay on when connected to WiFi, it does not seem to be using any data but wouldn't it save battery if it turned the 4G off when not in use? I used to have sprint and mobile data always automatically turned off when on WiFi, this is my first verizon phone, is this normal on all verizon devices?
mcerk02 said:
Why does the 4G stay on when connected to WiFi, it does not seem to be using any data but wouldn't it save battery if it turned the 4G off when not in use? I used to have sprint and mobile data always automatically turned off when on WiFi, this is my first verizon phone, is this normal on all verizon devices?
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As long as the 4G icon is greyed out it's disconnected. It's just in a ready state in case of sending or receiving mms when it will turn white with activity arrows
Hello, This is a problem on many devices. The best way to fix it is too go to Settings, Wireless Settings, Mobile Settings and then turn off your data.
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Hello, This is a problem on many devices. The best way to fix it is too go to Settings, Wireless Settings, Mobile Settings and then turn off your data.
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yes, I realize I can do that im not gonna worry about turning it on and off every time, it dont seem to be using any mobile data but I was looking at it as a battery drain...same reason I dont keep bluetooth on when not in use
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Hello, This is a problem on many devices. The best way to fix it is too go to Settings, Wireless Settings, Mobile Settings and then turn off your data.
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If you turn data off you will not be able to receive or send mms. Best to leave it alone. I use g3 teeakbox to hide it when on Wi-Fi
For phone calls and text messages. Data will go through wifi.
mcerk02 said:
yes, I realize I can do that im not gonna worry about turning it on and off every time, it dont seem to be using any mobile data but I was looking at it as a battery drain...same reason I dont keep bluetooth on when not in use
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I hear you - if the 4g radio is on it is theoretically eating your battery; although it may be negligible with the power saving built into the phone. If you want 4g/data completely off while on WiFi you can download a tasker app from the play store and set it up to automatically switch off data when WiFi is connected & vice versa; it's been working well for me. You'll lose stock MMS if data is turned off though, so consider that before you use a tasker. You can always grab a 3rd party messaging app for MMS if you need it, and they will work because they are only over WiFi.
But if it is just an aesthetic thing, as mentioned in a post above, you can hide the icon using g3 tweaks.
The only difference is that these phones show you what mobile data connection you have. On T-Mobile, you may have a phone that only shows the bars when on WiFi, but it's still connected, just look at an app like Signal Check Pro.
This is not eating your battery, it's not being used, it simply tells you what connection is idle for when you are no longer using WiFi.
Every so often I will pick up my phone and notice that my phone is using mobile data at the same time that my wifi is connected. I have noticed this off and on since day one but havent thought of asking if anyone else is experiencing this.
When I notice it, I disable wifi and re-enable it which usually takes care of the issue.
The problem is that I only get 3gb of data a month and when I am on wifi, I should not be using my mobile data.
Attached is a screenshot showing both 4G LTE and Wifi connected at the same time.
I couldn't begin to guess the cause of your problem but I think I can suggest a workaround.
Download Tasker and create a profile that disables mobile data when connected to certain wifi connections. Should help
Make sure your mobile data setting isn't on. Advanced Wi-Fi Settings.
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Thanks swimm12984. I had thought about that as well
prp2: that's not a setting in Advanced Wifi
I'm thinking this is intentional. To be able to reliably do a WiFi to VoLTE or GSM handoff when using WiFi calling, for example, the phone needs to periodically maintain a connection with the mobile network. Otherwise, if you happen to lose wifi signal or walk out of signal range, your call will drop.
I noticed this on my Note 3 as well when I was using it on WiFi, but only after they issued an update to 'fix' wifi to volte/gsm handoff issues.
Try disabling VoLTE in your calling settings and see if it still occurs.
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I'm thinking this is intentional. To be able to reliably do a WiFi to VoLTE or GSM handoff when using WiFi calling, for example, the phone needs to periodically maintain a connection with the mobile network. Otherwise, if you happen to lose wifi signal or walk out of signal range, your call will drop.
I noticed this on my Note 3 as well when I was using it on WiFi, but only after they issued an update to 'fix' wifi to volte/gsm handoff issues.
Try disabling VoLTE in your calling settings and see if it still occurs.
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That actually makes sense. I had wifi-calling turned off but didn't think of turning VoLTE off as well. I will not be able to tell right away as it happened sporadically but I will comment back after a day or so.
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That actually makes sense. I had wifi-calling turned off but didn't think of turning VoLTE off as well. I will not be able to tell right away as it happened sporadically but I will comment back after a day or so.
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Ah, in that case, I can almost guarantee that's what it is. If VoLTE is on, but wifi calling is off, then it will have to maintain it's connection to the data network for sure! Let us know how it goes, but I'm pretty confident
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Ah, in that case, I can almost guarantee that's what it is. If VoLTE is on, but wifi calling is off, then it will have to maintain it's connection to the data network for sure! Let us know how it goes, but I'm pretty confident
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That wasn't it. I just woke up and noticed that both were on again.
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That wasn't it. I just woke up and noticed that both were on again.
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Well damn. Not sure then. ?
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Thanks anyway
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Thanks anyway
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Go to advanced wifi settings and make sure that switch to mobile data when wifi signal is poor is unchecked..
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Go to advanced wifi settings and make sure that switch to mobile data when wifi signal is poor is unchecked..
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I can try that but I am right beside the router so I doubt that is the issue.
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I can try that but I am right beside the router so I doubt that is the issue.
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What speeds are you getting on wifi? It could be what I said plus a wifi connection issue with your actual wifi service..
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What speeds are you getting on wifi? It could be what I said plus a wifi connection issue with your actual wifi service..
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72mbps on wifi but my actual internet connection is 125mbps down and 22 up
Your mobile data will also turn on while on WiFi if you're sending/receiving MMS with a third-party SMS app, like Textra. Those apps do not have access to WiFi Calling on the V10 so they must use mobile data for MMS.
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Your mobile data will also turn on while on WiFi if you're sending/receiving MMS with a third-party SMS app, like Textra. Those apps do not have access to WiFi Calling on the V10 so they must use mobile data for MMS.
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I understand that and since I only use Hangouts, that doesn't apply but thanks.
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Thanks swimm12984. I had thought about that as well
prp2: that's not a setting in Advanced Wifi
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Yes it is. Right below "Allow WiFi scanning."
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prp2 said:
Yes it is. Right below "Allow WiFi scanning."
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Not on my device
Perhaps you meant: "Switch to Mobile data"