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Okay so I was browsing my phone and happened to run across the System state saying "Modified"
The issue I am having is I have never even downloaded a rooting app. The only thing close to root I have used is called Helium, which does not require root, but it can backup/restore apps+data.
I am slightly worried that if I have to send my phone in for some reason they will see this and say I have messed with the system, although I have not in the first place.
Has anyone else encountered this random issue? Other than that this phone is quite a good phone and I'm pleased with it greatly.
Did you......root your phone?
Sent from my VS985 4G
veteranmina said:
Okay so I was browsing my phone and happened to run across the System state saying "Modified"
The issue I am having is I have never even downloaded a rooting app. The only thing close to root I have used is called Helium, which does not require root, but it can backup/restore apps+data.
I am slightly worried that if I have to send my phone in for some reason they will see this and say I have messed with the system, although I have not in the first place.
Has anyone else encountered this random issue? Other than that this phone is quite a good phone and I'm pleased with it greatly.
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Let me grab a non-rooted G3 here in a few and check. I don't know that they dont all say that. Get back to you shortly. Mine also says this; however, I did root and unlock mine.
rp201 said:
Did you......root your phone?
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Did you fully read his post before replying? I suppose my question is as rhetorical as yours...
My interpretation was that he has not installed one rooting app. One was left to assume he had rooted the phone or did not have a rooted phone which was the basis of my question. And yes I did read his post to answer your question. I would not leave you to assume I did from my response.
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no big deal that it says that. move along
If you go to the Verizon store and look at the G3's they have on display, they all say "modified" instead of "official" however when I received my phone it said "official" until I rooted it.
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Just flash it back to stock if you have any issues. May as well root now anyway. G3 tweak box is amazing!
Sorry for late reply, at work so hard to get on atm.
I have not touched a single rooting app to this phone since I bought it new the day they came out. I have thought about rooting it, but I am touchy when it comes to phones that are in warrenty.
Although I might just say heck with it and actually root it anyways since it's saying modified, my main concern was why it was already saying it was modified when I hadn't touched it yet. I have experience rooting/restoring phones/tablets ever since the mesmerize/desire/fascinate ages so it shouldn't be too hard
I doubt this has anything to do with it, but when it turns on from a restart/shutdown one of the verizon apps "vzrwsservice" or something like that says it has crashed and then goes away until i restart again.
Thanks for you replies though, if someone does come up with a phone that isn't rooted but says modified, I'd be interested to know so that we can figure what's causing this.
My unrooted Verizon g3 does not say modified. It says official.
veteranmina said:
Sorry for late reply, at work so hard to get on atm.
I have not touched a single rooting app to this phone since I bought it new the day they came out. I have thought about rooting it, but I am touchy when it comes to phones that are in warrenty.
Although I might just say heck with it and actually root it anyways since it's saying modified, my main concern was why it was already saying it was modified when I hadn't touched it yet. I have experience rooting/restoring phones/tablets ever since the mesmerize/desire/fascinate ages so it shouldn't be too hard
I doubt this has anything to do with it, but when it turns on from a restart/shutdown one of the verizon apps "vzrwsservice" or something like that says it has crashed and then goes away until i restart again.
Thanks for you replies though, if someone does come up with a phone that isn't rooted but says modified, I'd be interested to know so that we can figure what's causing this.
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Hypothetical.... lets say someone bought it, played with it and rooted it or botched a root and returned it. try root checker in app store. just saying. makes more sense then someone snuck in your bedroom and took it and rooted while you were sleeping and returned it.
Another hypothetical...
Could it switch to "modified" if one were not rooted but had disabled some of the bloat? Just a thought.
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Another hypothetical...
Could it switch to "modified" if one were not rooted but had disabled some of the bloat? Just a thought.
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As of now, I cannot tell what it was to change it to modified, I went ahead and tried a reset through the settings and it kept the modified status, did a flash restore and it finally got rid of the modified and is now stating Official.
(To note that when it was in download mode it also stated modified before I flashed it with the ToT file.)
I did also find the reason for the verizon server to crash, which I cannot find the location of the thread elsewhere, but it is due to Google+ and one of verizons apps not being compatible with each other and eventually causing verizons app to crash. The only way so far to fix it is either downgrade google+ to stock, or disable the VerizonAvsService to stop the crash at boot.
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Another hypothetical...
Could it switch to "modified" if one were not rooted but had disabled some of the bloat? Just a thought.
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I have disabled a bunch of bloat without root and it has not changed to modified.
It's a Fact!!!
veteranmina said:
Sorry for late reply, at work so hard to get on atm.
I have not touched a single rooting app to this phone since I bought it new the day they came out. I have thought about rooting it, but I am touchy when it comes to phones that are in warrenty.
Although I might just say heck with it and actually root it anyways since it's saying modified, my main concern was why it was already saying it was modified when I hadn't touched it yet. I have experience rooting/restoring phones/tablets ever since the mesmerize/desire/fascinate ages so it shouldn't be too hard
I doubt this has anything to do with it, but when it turns on from a restart/shutdown one of the verizon apps "vzrwsservice" or something like that says it has crashed and then goes away until i restart again.
Thanks for you replies though, if someone does come up with a phone that isn't rooted but says modified, I'd be interested to know so that we can figure what's causing this.
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I have verified for myself, that my Verizon LG G3 says "Modified" as well, yet it's a fact that I have never rooted or modified any of my system settings... I'm running Stock 6.0 Marshmallow... Go figure... Who knows with Verizon...
Hello everyone. When I started enjoying smartphones, my first love was with HTC. After some time of quality issues across many of their phones, I made the switch to Samsung. I must say, while I was always impressed with Samsung during the warranty period, it became clear to me that the phones don't hold up much longer than that... and in the case of my S5, made several visits to the repair shop during its warranty period.
My question is this. Should I even give the LG consideration? The G3 has been around a while now so there should be some good input at this point. Am I just trading one evil for another? Or is there much more to look forward to if I make the switch? Also, how difficult is it to root? And if I root, is it possible to undo that so there is no trace in case I need to send it in for warranty?
I would especially like the opinion of folks who have played with both the G3 and the Samsung line.
Thanks in advance.
I love the G3. Performance wise it's a beast. It was a pain to root. I even bricked it once in the process but was lucky enough to fix it. If you plan on unrooting it and rerooting it every time something goes wrong with the phone, then I highly recommend you stick with Samsung. Your life will be easier.
I've had both, g3, to me, is easier to root. Root with stump root app, but you must downgrade, using flashtool, to zv4 1st if your phone came with zv6. After that you just flash bumped version of TWRP using flashify app or ADB. I quit Samsung because of KNOX. One false move with downgrading boot loader accidentally, phone is toast. I have softbricked my g3 numerous times, used flashtool Every time to get out of trouble. As far as unrooting goes, use flashtool once again. Not sure if boot loader counts mods like Samsung tho.
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I am currently fully rooted, running the latest jasmineRom. I liked the stock based kernal, had some nice features like tap to turn on, etc, and haven't dabbled in other roms such as CMMod, LiquidSmooth etc on the G3. Honestly I don't know if they have some of the features for waking the screen by tapping it that make the G3 usable without any front buttons, and changing roms and recustomizing / installing everything is a bit of a bear, so I haven't experimented with it.
My phone has the 5.1.1 update downloaded, keeps wanting to schedule it. (It actually tried to install itself, but I think TWRP prevented it from working). So now I am faced with the question of, what to do?
Do I let 5.1.1 install, and thereby gain Android Pay, which I did like, but lose root, which I enjoy for letting me debloat my phone? (Also G3 tweeksbox) Those are really the only things I've used root for. Do I experiment with other roms? (And then, how do I return to stock? Does TWRP prevent me from doing so, or would it get taken out in the update? I honestly don't know and have yet to find that information). I have read the Flash back to Stock using the KDZ method, which is actually how I rooted my phone to begin with, but it seems that is under the assumption I am running a stock rom / bootloader to begin with.
Just trying to get some input from people far more familier with this than I. If there is a way back to stock, including bootloader, what ROM would you recommend I try?
Thanks in advance!
Hi! Questions go in Q&A.
Be aware that if you take 5.1.1 that so far you *can't* root even if you want to, and you also can't currently downgrade.
If you're looking to return to completely stock including the recovery, so that you can take OTAs in the future, then flash the 24B KDZ with LG Flash Tool 2014. If you want to be rooted but be able to turn root off and on, you can do that with any, although I think Pay only works with stock. Another user on here just found out that merely temporarily deactivating root allowed him to use Pay just fine. Probably have to reboot in between turning it on and off - not sure.
Here are my thoughts on the subject: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63191071&postcount=135
Personally, I like rooting and twrp b/c of nandoid backups, debloating, removing ads and using titanium backup. I would feel truly lost without these options (and, to be perfectly honest, I love tinkering with electronics). If you decide to pass on the update for now, freeze system update using titanium backup, then wipe cache and that should remove the downloaded update in memory prior to installation . It's really a personal choice, but for me, I will likely stay where I am now rather than give up root.
The only reason I really rooted this phone was to get rid of bloat and fix the weak notification volume. I've never been one to jump aboard new updates as soon as they're released. Gonna wait it out and see if something happens with the root situation.
Decided I might as well try a custom rom, never used a custom rom on a phone, only tablets. Titanium backup and custom recovery are valuable tools, and decided it was worth the risk.
Went with Liquid Smooth, which I think has auto-updates ala CM Mod. So I get the benefits of 5.1.1, without the hassle of Verizon. Going to see what I think.
Thanks for the replies!
The update deactivates wireless charging. That was the deal breaker for me.
Edit: Turns out my wife and I both had a bad update. I used repair assistant and wireless charging is working again.
a2597 said:
Decided I might as well try a custom rom, never used a custom rom on a phone, only tablets. Titanium backup and custom recovery are valuable tools, and decided it was worth the risk.
Went with Liquid Smooth, which I think has auto-updates ala CM Mod. So I get the benefits of 5.1.1, without the hassle of Verizon. Going to see what I think.
Thanks for the replies!
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Ive been running a CM12 based ROM for months now, it fixes almost everything wrong with the 5.0.2 update and with this update blocking root and downgrading, it seems CM12 based ROMS are the best choice for now.
timboger said:
The update deactivates wireless charging. That was the deal breaker for me.
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Where did you hear that? A web search shows inconsistent functionality starting with v5.0 with various carriers, including one report of someone who tried everything to get it to work and couldn't, so he reassembled his phone and tossed it on the charger, and it started working.
DeanGibson said:
Where did you hear that? A web search shows inconsistent functionality starting with v5.0 with various carriers, including one report of someone who tried everything to get it to work and couldn't, so he reassembled his phone and tossed it on the charger, and it started working.
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Sorry, I should of been clearer. The update to 35b, 5.1.1, will render wireless charging useless. It can not be rooted. If you decide to update then you will loose root until the devs can figure it out. That will have to wait until the kdz is available. I have been wireless charging since I got the phone and bought the new back from ebay. It has worked without fail until the latest update.
Clarification requested
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Sorry, I should of been clearer.
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I should have been clearer as well. I take it that you are saying that wireless charging stopped working on your VS985 phones when you upgraded to v5.1.1. That's distinct from saying that wireless charging no longer works when anyone upgrades the LG G3 to v5.1.1.
Certainly your one two data points are significant, but I'd like to know if it's confirmed that it won't work on other VS985 phones that upgrade to v5.1.1 (35B).
I'm tempted to go buy one of the charging backs and pads. Where did you get yours? I seriously considered it a year ago when I bought the phone, but the lack of a nice belt clip deterred me. How are you carrying the phone (eg, belt clip or what)?
Edit: I was told that the charging back made the phone thicker. However, a little research seems to suggest that's only true for Verizon's "Circle case" (eg, a combined front and back), which I don't need. Someone even reported that they just cut off the front case, and then it fit their belt clip holder. Also, another reporter said that it charged much slower. Comments on all of this?
DeanGibson said:
I should have been clearer as well. I take it that you are saying that wireless charging stopped working on your VS985 phones when you upgraded to v5.1.1. That's distinct from saying that wireless charging no longer works when anyone upgrades the LG G3 to v5.1.1.
Certainly your one two data points are significant, but I'd like to know if it's confirmed that it won't work on other VS985 phones that upgrade.
I'm tempted to go buy one of the charging backs and pads. Where did you get yours? I seriously considered it a year ago when I bought the phone, but the lack of a nice belt clip deterred me. How are you carrying the phone (eg, belt clip or what)?
Edit: I was told that the charging back made the phone thicker. However, a little research seems to suggest that's only true for Verizon's "Circle case" (eg, a combined front and back), which I don't need. Someone even reported that they just cut off the front case, and then it fit their belt clip holder. Also, another reporter said that it charged much slower. Comments on all of this?
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I have the vs985 on verizon, purchased about 1 week after it's release. It is rooted since stump and I have run either Jasmine or skydragon (currently sd5.0/4.2 kernel) . I purchased the charging sticker (available on ebay at the time). I was able to put the sticker onto the original back of the phone and wirelessly charge it both with a circle case (US lgg3) and without. I also bought a Korean circle case that had a charging sticker built into it. I removed the european charging sticker and replaced that one with one of the ones that I purchased on ebay (again, for US, wireless charging) and that worked as well (did not need the original oem back in this situation as the circle case back served as phone back, again this worked on a US wireless charger perfectly (I have a tylt). Never used a belt clip, but hope that this provides you with some useful information. Charging was complete and never slow.
a2597 said:
I am currently fully rooted, running the latest jasmineRom. I liked the stock based kernal, had some nice features like tap to turn on, etc, and haven't dabbled in other roms such as CMMod, LiquidSmooth etc on the G3. Honestly I don't know if they have some of the features for waking the screen by tapping it that make the G3 usable without any front buttons, and changing roms and recustomizing / installing everything is a bit of a bear, so I haven't experimented with it.
My phone has the 5.1.1 update downloaded, keeps wanting to schedule it. (It actually tried to install itself, but I think TWRP prevented it from working). So now I am faced with the question of, what to do?
Do I let 5.1.1 install, and thereby gain Android Pay, which I did like, but lose root, which I enjoy for letting me debloat my phone? (Also G3 tweeksbox) Those are really the only things I've used root for. Do I experiment with other roms? (And then, how do I return to stock? Does TWRP prevent me from doing so, or would it get taken out in the update? I honestly don't know and have yet to find that information). I have read the Flash back to Stock using the KDZ method, which is actually how I rooted my phone to begin with, but it seems that is under the assumption I am running a stock rom / bootloader to begin with.
Just trying to get some input from people far more familier with this than I. If there is a way back to stock, including bootloader, what ROM would you recommend I try?
Thanks in advance!
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I don't understand the issue.
I have an LG G3 with TWRP, Xposed and root; I can use Android Pay.
I had to jump through hoops but I can use it. Adding cards is a pain, but I can do that too.
To get it working you have to temp-unroot.
Install and configure Pay.
Re-enable root.
You will need to install Xposed and the module that provides cloaking for root, for Pay called -> No Device Check http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.nodevicecheck
Now you should be able to use Android Pay.
Jasmine 9.0 is out. I'd try that out. Its 5.1.1 with root
xdabbeb has the 35b bootstack that can be flashed to get advanced calling features working. Read about it.
I'd paid $180 in Asurion phone insurance as part of my Verizon plan over the last 18 months I've had my G3, and I think it may be time to finally use it.
Some time within the past several days, it appears I must have pressed too hard on my screen at some point because now, when the screen is dark/black, there is a reasonably noticeable 'smudge' (for complete lack of a better word) inside my screen that is a lighter color than the rest of everything else. I can't really seem to think of the correct words right now to describe it, but it's basically what you'd imagine would happen when you press a screen too hard. The fortunate thing is, it's really only noticeable when the screen is dark, but it's still enough to drive me nuts.
I had a few questions about Asurion. ~3 years ago, I paid my $100 deposit and sent my old Galaxy S3 in because I broke the screen. They sent me back a brand new phone. It was sealed in the original stock box and it came with everything a new phone does (headphones, cable, charger, all the paperwork.) Plus the phone was very clearly not a refurb; it was flawless. I was under the impression I was meant to either have the screen repaired on my phone or get a refurb, but I absolutely got a brand new phone. Maybe I was lucky.
But I understand that my experience likely wasn't typical. So I want to know, from people who have sent their faulty/broken phones in to Asurion:
- Did they fix your problem and send your old phone back? Or,
- Did you get a refurb? Or,
- Did you get a new phone?
Normally, I wouldn't care, but my serious concern is that I might get a new or refurb phone that has an updated OS. This brings me to my next question(s).
- If I get a new/refurb phone back from Asurion that is running 47A or something else relatively new, will I still be able to unlock my bootloader, install TWRP, root, and just generally get everything back to the way I have it now, loaded with customization and modifications? Or do the newer G3 updates keep the phone locked down permanently, in which case I'll be SOL? What's the most recent software update to which I'll be able to make all of my modifications to?
Sorry for the wall of text, but I just want to make sure I get everything cleared up. I would really like to get this screen issue repaired ASAP, but if there's any chance at all that I'll be stuck on stock un-rooted forever when I get the phone back, I'm not going to take that chance. But if it's trivial to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, and root the newer updates like 47A, I'll be sending my phone in ASAP.
Thanks.
I haven't used Asurion since about 2009 so can't say much.
I can say that it doesn't matter what stock ROM a replacement would come with, including up to the latest which is 47A, you won't be stuck. Just flash the 10B TOT using the .DLL that was extracted from the 35B KDZ, root with the Stump app, install TWRP with TWRP Manager from the Play Store and flash whatever you want.
This might be a little late for you but had to replace my verizon vs985 lg g3 back in December. I paid my $100 copay, and Asurion sent me refurb. Even when it looks like a retail phone it's usually a refurb unless the phone is brand new and they haven't gotten any bad ones back to fix up. Asurion doesn't have a repair department. This is the first smartphone I've gotten through asurion, back in the days of flip phones I got a bunch of replacements and often I had to get 2-3 before I got a refurb that actually worked. This g3 worked ok on the first try, although I do have one weird rebooting issue, that started a week after I got it, and recently got way worse may or may not be hardware related, theoretically they should send me another refurb if it is hardware under their warranty(without another copay), but I have a feeling getting them to honor it will be a battle.
It came with Lollipop at the time, i forget if it was 5.0.1. or 5.1.1.
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This g3 worked ok on the first try, although I do have one weird rebooting issue, that started a week after I got it, and recently got way worse may or may not be hardware related, theoretically they should send me another refurb if it is hardware under their warranty(without another copay), but I have a feeling getting them to honor it will be a battle.
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If I were you, before bothering try anything else I would restore to stock using the 10B TOT, because TOTs flash more partitions than KDZs and can fix weird issues that flashing KDZs and other ROMs can't.
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If I were you, before bothering try anything else I would restore to stock using the 10B TOT, because TOTs flash more partitions than KDZs and can fix weird issues that flashing KDZs and other ROMs can't.
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My refurbished phone is stock never rooted never flashed verizon vs985 currently on 5.1.1. It reboots only during phone calls. Do you think rooting it and doing all that stuff you suggested, would be of any use to me?
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My refurbished phone is stock never rooted never flashed verizon vs985 currently on 5.1.1. It reboots only during phone calls. Do you think rooting it and doing all that stuff you suggested, would be of any use to me?
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I understand that. You don't have to root it - rooting isn't involved in what I'm suggesting; it's using official LG ROM files and the Windows software necessary to flash them. I'd flash the 10B TOT using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ. Then I'd test the situation you describe while still on 10B and see if it reboots. If it doesn't, I'd flash the 47A KDZ and test it again.
Edit: unless you don't have the original USB cable. Always use the original USB cable that comes with a device when new to flash a phone from a PC.
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There's no way of knowing if whoever actually refurbed the phone did what they should in order to return the software to a pristine condition. They obviously didn't QC their effort very well. It's possible they didn't even do anything to the phone. There's also no way of knowing if the person who owned the phone before it was refurbished ever rooted it. Even if they had (for example) flashed the 35B KDZ before they refurbished it (it's common to return to stock unrooted before turning a phone in under warranty), flashing KDZs doesn't solve as much as flashing TOTs does.
A couple of months ago I was having consistent weird issues that wouldn't go away no matter what ROM I flashed while rooted, or what KDZ I flashed. It wasn't until I flashed the 10B TOT that the issue went away - from there I was able to do again whatever I wanted (flashing ROMs, KDZs) without the issue returning.
Or you can exchange for another refurb and take a chance that you might get yet another different or worse half-effort fixed phone.
I was really lucky to be able to snag a G3 like that. It's for my wife who presently has a basic phone on VzW. I rooted the phone and unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP and did a nandroid backup after I set up all the apps, contacts, etc. that she'll need. Today the SIM arrived from Vz and it wouldn't activate. I had to call the number provided and they were able to get it activated. But, unfortunately, it immediately started to download a software upgrade which I couldn't stop. It's sitting there waiting for me to select install now or
later. My question is, what can I do to make sure I retain root and all the setup I've done on it? Can I erase the download and, if so, where can I find its storage location?
I guess that if you are root you can always remove the Update Center, is the VS985 a good one, I have a D851 but I see there are some VS985 on ebay, just curious if the Verizon ROM is not full of bloatware.
I managed to get out of the TWRP bootloop I eventually wound up in due to stupid stuff I tried to prevent the OTA. I also managed to retain root and the Kitkat OS. I plan to eliminate the Vz and LG bloat by installing Skydragom ROM that I loved on my old G3. I'll do that in a week or so. I currently use an LG US996 Unlocked and rooted but I still love the G3. Mint ones are hard to find and ones with stock 4.4.2 version OS even more difficult - but worth the premium price. Good luck!
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I managed to get out of the TWRP bootloop I eventually wound up in due to stupid stuff I tried to prevent the OTA. I also managed to retain root and the Kitkat OS. I plan to eliminate the Vz and LG bloat by installing Skydragom ROM that I loved on my old G3. I'll do that in a week or so. I currently use an LG US996 Unlocked and rooted but I still love the G3. Mint ones are hard to find and ones with stock 4.4.2 version OS even more difficult - but worth the premium price. Good luck!
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I actually had one that I kept on 4.4.2 but I used it for the first time in a long time, put my SIM card in and it downloaded the software. I just kept ignoring the installation notification. Couple days later My seven-year-old installed it! Now my phone is bricked. Is there no going back to 4.4.2 I guess?
I had a mint G3 up until the other week when I broke the digitizer (not the LCD, just the touchscreen) on a roller coaster (lap bar). I jumped to the LG V30 and am, at this point, kind of happy that I broke my screen. The camera + screen time on the v30 are just mind bogglingly better than the G3 was. Amazing what skipping ahead like 7 generations of phones does for the libido! (G4, G5, G6, G7, V10, V20, V30)