Hello everyone. I've been looking into rooting and all for a little while now, and there's something that's really confusing to me. I read that there's a developer note 4 for verizon that has n unlocked bootloader, and I don't understand this. I know my note 3 has a locked bootloader, but I see that it can be rooted, so what's the difference? I really don't understand if it can be rooted, why it matters.
Also, I've looked into cyanagenmod, and it seems it's really easy to load it onto my phone, but does it work on a phone with a locked bootloader etc? Does it have to be rooted first? It's all quite confusing and seemingly contradictory.
fatesalign said:
Hello everyone. I've been looking into rooting and all for a little while now, and there's something that's really confusing to me. I read that there's a developer note 4 for verizon that has n unlocked bootloader, and I don't understand this. I know my note 3 has a locked bootloader, but I see that it can be rooted, so what's the difference? I really don't understand if it can be rooted, why it matters.
Also, I've looked into cyanagenmod, and it seems it's really easy to load it onto my phone, but does it work on a phone with a locked bootloader etc? Does it have to be rooted first? It's all quite confusing and seemingly contradictory.
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rooting lets you modify system files,
unlocking the bootloader lets you use custom recovery and custom recovery lets you flash a custom rom like cyanagen
fatesalign said:
Hello everyone. I've been looking into rooting and all for a little while now, and there's something that's really confusing to me. I read that there's a developer note 4 for verizon that has n unlocked bootloader, and I don't understand this. I know my note 3 has a locked bootloader, but I see that it can be rooted, so what's the difference? I really don't understand if it can be rooted, why it matters.
Also, I've looked into cyanagenmod, and it seems it's really easy to load it onto my phone, but does it work on a phone with a locked bootloader etc? Does it have to be rooted first? It's all quite confusing and seemingly contradictory.
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You don't need to unlock your bootloader on a Samsung Note model as they don't require you to unlock it. Just flash a new one using Odin and you should get going.
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fatesalign said:
Hello everyone. I've been looking into rooting and all for a little while now, and there's something that's really confusing to me. I read that there's a developer note 4 for verizon that has n unlocked bootloader, and I don't understand this. I know my note 3 has a locked bootloader, but I see that it can be rooted, so what's the difference? I really don't understand if it can be rooted, why it matters.
Also, I've looked into cyanagenmod, and it seems it's really easy to load it onto my phone, but does it work on a phone with a locked bootloader etc? Does it have to be rooted first? It's all quite confusing and seemingly contradictory.
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root access only allows you to make modifications to the rom while the bootloader unlock lets you install any custom rom
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I have just rooted my phone. I wonder if I can unlock bootloader after rooting?
If I can, which way is the easiest way?
And also I want to know the benefits of unlocking Bootloader.
I want to add that I don't know so much about doing so complicated things, please know that while informing me.
I really appriciate your answers...
stock rom Gingerbread 2.3.4, rooted.
thejamoz said:
I have just rooted my phone. I wonder if I can unlock bootloader after rooting?
If I can, which way is the easiest way?
And also I want to know the benefits of unlocking Bootloader.
I want to add that I don't know so much about doing so complicated things, please know that while informing me.
I really appriciate your answers...
stock rom Gingerbread 2.3.4, rooted.
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if you're on AT&T, you can use this script here that does it all for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
if you're on an international Atrix, you can use RSD Lite to flash the pudding .sbf file that can be found here, and then do the fastboot oem unlock command.
So, I can unlock BL after rooting? I got that.
Can someone tell me what it is, what happens If I unlock Bootloader? What are the benefits? Why do people do that?
thejamoz said:
So, I can unlock BL after rooting? I got that.
Can someone tell me what it is, what happens If I unlock Bootloader? What are the benefits? Why do people do that?
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rooting has nothing to do with it, rooting just gives your phone root access to system files.
unlocking the bootloader opens up our ability to flash custom ROMs onto our phones, as well as allowing us to put a custom recovery on our phone.
if you're satisfied with stock gingerbread, don't worry about it and just go on using your rooted phone.
if you wish to try out some awesome ROMs like CM7, then go ahead and unlock your bootloader. you're going to have to re-root afterwards, but that's super easy to do on our phone, and most ROMs come pre-rooted anyways.
"""if you wish to try out some awesome ROMs like CM7, then go ahead and unlock your bootloader. you're going to have to re-root afterwards, but that's super easy to do on our phone, and most ROMs come pre-rooted anyways."""
Yes I definitely want to try CM7 because Im sick of laggy Atrix. I read a lot about it but I learned that Fingerprint isnt working with CM7, so I decided to wait. But if they fix all of the bugs I will try that.
You said re-root is supereasy after unlocking BL. I have rooted my atrix with the topic of this link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255548
Is there any different way? or the same way again?
You ve read my thoughts about the phone, what do you suggest to me to do?
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"if you wish to try out some awesome ROMs like CM7, then go ahead and unlock your bootloader. you're going to have to re-root afterwards, but that's super easy to do on our phone, and most ROMs come pre-rooted anyways."
Yes I definitely want to try CM7 because Im sick of laggy Atrix. I read a lot about it but I learned that Fingerprint isnt working with CM7, so I decided to wait. But if they fix all of the bugs I will try that.
You said re-root is supereasy after unlocking BL. I have rooted my atrix with the topic of this link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255548
Is there any different way? or the same way again?
You read my thoughts about the phone, what do you suggest to me to do?
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yep, just re-root with that method and you'll be just fine.
i'd suggest for you to go ahead and unlock your bootloader, and install Romracer's CWM which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
after that, just choose a ROM from the dev forum. Aura is really polished, Alien looks cool. any of the one from seanzscreams is gonna be nice and speedy for you, they've all been converted to EXT4 so you'll get better performance.
i'd still personally suggest CM7, fingerprint scanner is working on internal builds from what i understand so it shouldn't be too long of a wait for it to be updated
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yep, just re-root with that method and you'll be just fine.
i'd suggest for you to go ahead and unlock your bootloader, and install Romracer's CWM which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
after that, just choose a ROM from the dev forum. Aura is really polished, Alien looks cool. any of the one from seanzscreams is gonna be nice and speedy for you, they've all been converted to EXT4 so you'll get better performance.
i'd still personally suggest CM7, fingerprint scanner is working on internal builds from what i understand so it shouldn't be too long of a wait for it to be updated
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Alcapone I really appriciate your help so far.
I definitely want to try CM7, not the other ROMs. But as I said, I'm not good at doing complicated things on PC (like writting commands that everybody mentioned for rooting or installing roms etc.).
Which way is the easiest way to install CM7? and here is the golden question, once I ve done that, How can I update it to the latest one?
I'm so noob about this things I know
thejamoz said:
Alcapone I really appriciate your help so far.
I definitely want to try CM7, not the other ROMs. But as I said, I'm not good at doing complicated things on PC (like writting commands that everybody mentioned for rooting or installing roms etc.).
Which way is the easiest way to install CM7? and here is the golden question, once I ve done that, How can I update it to the latest one?
I'm so noob about this things I know
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first off, are you on an AT&T Atrix or an international atrix?
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first off, are you on an AT&T Atrix or an international atrix?
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sorry, I forgot to write it. AT&T Atrix and unlocked by the code from cellunlock.
by the way, does anything happen to my "unlocked" phone, when I do everything that we mention? like locking again.
thejamoz said:
sorry, I forgot to write it. AT&T Atrix and unlocked by the code from cellunlock.
by the way, does anything happen to my "unlocked" phone, when I do everything that we mention? like locking again.
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once SIM unlocked, you're always SIM unlocked.
anyways, use the script i gave you in the first post to unlock your bootloader, just download it and open it up and follow the instructions.
after you're done unlocking, go to RomRacer's CWM that i linked you, and install it with fastboot.
after that, you can download any ROM you want in a flashable .zip file, and flash it with CWM.
You mean, I have to install RomRacer's CWM to install CM7?
And how can I update CM7 when they fix something like fingerprint sensor?
thejamoz said:
You mean, I have to install RomRacer's CWM to install CM7?
And how can I update CM7 when they fix something like fingerprint sensor?
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yes, you need CWM installed to install CM7. and to update to the newest version of CM7 you just flash the new update over your system with CM7, and it updates your system for you. easy as that.
Don't currently own one, just want to make sure about a few things. Searched through the Dev forum but still I am not 100% sure and that's why I am asking here, just to confirm.
1. Is the bootloader unlocked for all firmware so I can flash custom ROMs or do I need to check something to determine if the bootloader is unlocked? I read somewhere that firmware 2.3.5 9 or above cannot be unlocked.
2. Does it come carrier unlocked by default to be used in countries other than the US, I mean use any GSM SIM?
3. What other phone can you tell me to look at, with similar specs and price range? I am interested in unlocked GSM, doesn't matter if its CDMA or not.
lamborg said:
Don't currently own one, just want to make sure about a few things. Searched through the Dev forum but still I am not 100% sure and that's why I am asking here, just to confirm.
1. Is the bootloader unlocked for all firmware so I can flash custom ROMs or do I need to check something to determine if the bootloader is unlocked? I read somewhere that firmware 2.3.5 9 or above cannot be unlocked.
2. Does it come carrier unlocked by default to be used in countries other than the US, I mean use any GSM SIM?
3. What other phone can you tell me to look at, with similar specs and price range? I am interested in unlocked GSM, doesn't matter if its CDMA or not.
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1) Need to be on 2.3.4 in order to unlock bootloader. If ordering from sprint, it might already come with 2.3.5. Buy from eBay and make sure to have the seller confirm its on 2.3.4.
2) Its a world phone. Its only carrier locked in the united states. But there are ways around this.
3) As far as used price range, the GS2 is probably the closest mainstream competitor on sprint. Galaxy nexus being just a bit more expensive. But you lack world phone capabilities and the photon is arguably a better phone all around depending on who you ask.
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1) Need to be on 2.3.4 in order to unlock bootloader. If ordering from sprint, it might already come with 2.3.5. Buy from eBay and make sure to have the seller confirm its on 2.3.4.
2) Its a world phone. Its only carrier locked in the united states. But there are ways around this.
3) As far as used price range, the GS2 is probably the closest mainstream competitor on sprint. Galaxy nexus being just a bit more expensive. But you lack world phone capabilities and the photon is arguably a better phone all around depending on who you ask.
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Thanks for that.
So if its 2.3.5, there's no way to unlock it? Something like Torpedo or 1 click unlock for Droid 3 would help?
lamborg said:
Thanks for that.
So if its 2.3.5, there's no way to unlock it? Something like Torpedo or 1 click unlock for Droid 3 would help?
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You can root 2.3.5. but not unlock currently.
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You can root 2.3.5. but not unlock currently.
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Ok so it means that I cannot flash custom ROMs right? But I can gain root access to modify the OS installed.
Thanks
lamborg said:
Ok so it means that I cannot flash custom ROMs right? But I can gain root access to modify the OS installed.
Thanks
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2.3.5. locked means you have to use locked roms or the phone will fail to boot.
mof9336 said:
2.3.5. locked means you have to use locked roms or the phone will fail to boot.
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can you link me to something to read to understand what I can do/not do with root and what with unlock? I searched, got something but its quite confusing. What I understand is Root = admin access like but don't know about the unlock.
I think bootloader should be unlocked to install custom ROM but then there's something called fastboot which only requires Root. Confused here. BTW does Unlock means Unlocked Bootloader?
I want to know that if I have 2.3.5 can I install ICS or JB?
lamborg said:
can you link me to something to read to understand what I can do/not do with root and what with unlock? I searched, got something but its quite confusing. What I understand is Root = admin access like but don't know about the unlock.
I think bootloader should be unlocked to install custom ROM but then there's something called fastboot which only requires Root. Confused here. BTW does Unlock means Unlocked Bootloader?
I want to know that if I have 2.3.5 can I install ICS or JB?
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The rules are simple: You need to unlock the bootloader to install custom ROMs that use custom kernels. You can't unlock if you are on 2.3.5. You do not need to be unlocked to use custom ROMs that use STOCK kernels. We only have two ROMs that use stock kernels. The rest, including ICS and JB, use custom kernels so you need to be unlocked to use them.
If you're higher than vrajb is it possible to unlock the Verizon Note 2 without unlocking the bootloader?
universexda said:
If you're higher than vraljb is it possible to unlock the Verizon Note 2 without unlocking the bootloader?
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I don't understand. Are you having a problem unlocking your bootloader. Or just don't want to, but want to flash your custom rom. without the bootloader being unlocked you will have to flash certing things like the kernel manually everytime you flash a rom.
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I don't understand. Are you having a problem unlocking your bootloader. Or just don't want to, but want to flash your custom rom. without the bootloader being unlocked you will have to flash certing things like the kernel manually everytime you flash a rom.
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Actually I've already unlocked and rooted using Outler/Radeklav's method, but I'd like to know for other people who have asked if it's possible to root, keep stock ROM and keep the bootloader unlocked for above vrajb phones. (I know you can do it for vrajb phones using the Exynos exploit.)
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If you're higher than vrajb is it possible to unlock the Verizon Note 2 without unlocking the bootloader?
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The only way to root only on VRAMC3 is with the Toolkit, there are mixed results with it though. Some say it works great and some say it doesn't work at all, in the end the people that just want root can try that and if it doesn't work they should just root and unlock the bootloader with CASUAL and if they don't want to mess with flashing they don't have to. There are really no downsides to having an unlocked boot loader aside from not being able to accept and install OTAs, that's a plus in my book though.
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shangrila500 said:
The only way to root only on VRAMC3 is with the Toolkit, there are mixed results with it though. Some say it works great and some say it doesn't work at all, in the end the people that just want root can try that and if it doesn't work they should just root and unlock the bootloader with CASUAL and if they don't want to mess with flashing they don't have to. There are really no downsides to having an unlocked boot loader aside from not being able to accept and install OTAs, that's a plus in my book though.
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Thanks for the word.
Will unlocked version of sprint get an OTA
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Will unlocked version of sprint get an OTA
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Do you mean "bumped," with TWRP recovery?
If so, you'll still get notified about the OTA. The OTA should fail to run, but on my last device some people had the KitKat update run even though they had a custom recovery, and it screwed up all sorts of things. So don't accept the OTA if you get it.
To make sure you don't get the OTA, see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
If by "unlocked" you mean something else, please explain.
As long as the phones system is totally original with no mods or deleted files you should get ota...depends on how it was unlocked.
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meyerweb said:
Do you mean "bumped," with TWRP recovery?
If so, you'll still get notified about the OTA. The OTA should fail to run, but on my last device some people had the KitKat update run even though they had a custom recovery, and it screwed up all sorts of things. So don't accept the OTA if you get it.
To make sure you don't get the OTA, see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
If by "unlocked" you mean something else, please explain.
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As long as the phones system is totally original with no mods or deleted files you should get ota...depends on how it was unlocked.
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I am basically getting a used device from a Friend of mine who got it from US and now in India its a Sprint variant and he is currently using it here, Where as he is not in to Rooting and Customizing, Where as I am so Ill be getting the device today evening, I need to know if its unlocked CAN it be locked again by Sprint (Not sure how it was unlocked) if its locked again can i use Bump and Unlock.
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I am basically getting a used device from a Friend of mine who got it from US and now in India its a Sprint variant and he is currently using it here, Where as he is not in to Rooting and Customizing, Where as I am so Ill be getting the device today evening, I need to know if its unlocked CAN it be locked again by Sprint (Not sure how it was unlocked) if its locked again can i use Bump and Unlock.
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Im sure if its unlocked it can still get ota by flashtool. If system is changed. But as far as root or bump. Certainly can. It can be bumped stumped etc. And flashtool back for ota. Depending how it was unlocked. Meaning if it was rooted to unlock then will have to flashtool back im almost sure. Again if your wanting to make sure it stays unlocked usually once unlocked it will stay. I guess it will depend how. And if oem unlocked then im sure re locking is not much of an option. However you should be fine from many of these worries. Hope not to confuse you. Im very tired. Lol. Trying to cover all bases. There are many ways to unlock many devices on many carriers so its really hard to say. But there are mostly generalized options one would believe.
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Im sure if its unlocked it can still get ota by flashtool. If system is changed. But as far as root or bump. Certainly can. It can be bumped stumped etc. And flashtool back for ota. Depending how it was unlocked. Meaning if it was rooted to unlock then will have to flashtool back im almost sure. Again if your wanting to make sure it stays unlocked usually once unlocked it will stay. I guess it will depend how. And if oem unlocked then im sure re locking is not much of an option. However you should be fine from many of these worries. Hope not to confuse you. Im very tired. Lol. Trying to cover all bases. There are many ways to unlock many devices on many carriers so its really hard to say. But there are mostly generalized options one would believe.
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Thanks for such a detailed answer,
Now when I get the bhone should i be unlocking Bootloader ?
Please suggest me an easy way to ROOT this device?
Which is the most customizied Rom available on this Sprint Thread, I am sure I should not be flashing any other Carrier Roms or International Version of ROM which may Brick the device.
My Friend is claiming that is factory unlocked,Is there a way to find if device is Factory unlocked ??
Hello,
[Okay i'm going to be quite honest, i might sound like an idiot on my post haha.] I just got my LG G3 and i've already root'd and got twrp and everything but i just saw a thread about bump and "Unlocking your LG G3" and having to do with Bump. I'm curious does that mean you can unlock your phones sim?? lol i might sound like an idiot or does it mean that we can now flash roms from lets say the GSM model of the G3 or roms from the Verizon model etc. This isn't a troll post i'm just that stupid lol. Anyways if someone can help me get a better understanding of this Bump software.
Does it mean unlocked bootloader? omg lol im an idiot..
Well as of right now there is no bootloader unlock. Bump is just a modified version of twrp for our device. The normal twrp from the twrp website works fine its mostly on prefrence. Before we had offical twrp we had to bump but now you can use either.
Sorry but can you explain what a bootloader is and why its important? Sorry for being stupid ?
No problem! (I have no problem with helping if you want you can PM me)
a bootloader is code that is executed before any Operating System starts to run. Boot loaders are basically packages that have instructions to boot the operating system kernel.
Bootloader are bad because it makes it much much much hard to run custom roms (custom os) and kernels. That is why we have bump it pretty much goes around the face that the bootloader is locked. If someone got ours unlocked then you can make roms a lot easier.
One a nexus for example once you unlock the bootloader you can install custom roms such as cm. Since ours is locked devs have to make the rom then they have to go and "bump" it that way the bootloader doesn't get flagged and brick itself.
Alrightthanks for clarifying that. I didnt know that the LG G3's bootloader was still locked, i guess thats why i see alot of rom threads being closed for the G3
Maybe if we (ls990 users) made a bounty someone may "find" a way to unlock our bootloader
1619415 said:
Maybe if we (ls990 users) made a bounty someone may "find" a way to unlock our bootloader
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Thanks again for the education!
moderator can close now
1619415 said:
Well as of right now there is no bootloader unlock. Bump is just a modified version of twrp for our device. The normal twrp from the twrp website works fine its mostly on prefrence. Before we had offical twrp we had to bump but now you can use either.
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To be clear, "normal" TWRP works fine because it has been "bumped." Without Bump there would be no way to load a non-stock recovery.
Bump, while not a true bootloader unlock , is a work-around that provides pretty much the same benefits. Without it, you would not be able to flash any custom recovery, and without a custom recovery you'd be unable to flash any custom ROMs.
Thank you for more clarification