Could anyone please post their experiences with wireless charging while using their n6 as a bedside clock. I've read on another thread that one person couldn't use their n6 as a clock because the screen would turn off once fully charged. I use my s4 like this so it's important to me.
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From what I have read on this site, the nexus 6 will shut it's screen off even if you have it checked to stay on in dev options, so if you need to see the clock you may run into this issue.
Using app "Dock Clock". Screen remains on after full charge reached. Screen stay awake is checked in developer options. paid version force closes, however.
I can confirm with wireless charging in daydream mode, utilizing the clock, it does in fact stop dreaming once battery reaches 100%. I've tried different methods, such as adjusting when it starts to daydream etc, same results. I'm using a TYLT VU QI, but I've read several posts that suggest the type of charger does not matter.. it's a QI issue. I have not experimented with any external apps, rather I was hoping I could fix it natively. Hope this helps out and they patch it sooner than later.
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Screen turns off at full charge. Takes several hours for the phone to charge to full.
I use my TYLT Vu, set my phone sideways, and have tasker open up Dock Clock app when I am wirelessly charging after 9 PM. It stays on all night, the clock moves around on the screen so it doesn't burn in, and it is awesome. I haven't really had a bedside clock before this because screens are so darned bright. I really like this .9 lux, and using a red clock makes it super awesome to sleep next to. Also the screen is on all night, it doesn't turn off ever.
Unlike most qi-enabled phones, the N6 completely stops charging when it hits full charge. Other phones enter a "trickle charge" mode, where they kind of stop and start again in bursts when needed, but still show that they're constantly charging in the battery indicator. Since the N6 completely stops, it's as if the device were removed from the charger, so Daydream, and any other app that detects charging (like the "screen always on when charging" dev option) will fail, since... um... the device isn't charging, and will remain that way until it reaches 98% charge, or so, when it starts up again. I can tell you that Nexus 5 with Lollipop does not do this, so it's not a Google (i.e. Lollipop) thing, it's a Motorola thing. Moto would need to update this in a software update (assuming it's possible) for a true fix.
There are apps that can keep the screen on all night, for use as a bedside clock. They work like any other app that keeps the screen on, however, so they do NOT detect when the device is charging. You'd need to manually exit the app after removing the device from the charger in the morning. They won't auto-exit like Daydream does (or else, they'd exit when the N6 hit 100% charge, just like Daydream). That is an option, although a clunky one.
I don't use my N6 as a bedside clock, but I was concerned about burn-in, so I set up a "Trigger" function (kind of like "Tasker" light) to set the time-out value to 15s when 100% charge is reached (technically, >99%), and back to my regular time-out (1m) when the device falls to 99% while not charging. This sounds like it wouldn't do much, but what it really does is allow my screen to shut off very quickly when the N6 stops charging, and even though it flips back to a 1m time-out afterwards, the screen stays off. Prior to this, I'd often wake to find my phone sitting on the home screen, where it's been for who knows how long. Now, when I wake, the screen is always off, and I can rest a bit easier about burn-in issues.
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I use my TYLT Vu, set my phone sideways, and have tasker open up Dock Clock app when I am wirelessly charging after 9 PM. It stays on all night, the clock moves around on the screen so it doesn't burn in, and it is awesome. I haven't really had a bedside clock before this because screens are so darned bright. I really like this .9 lux, and using a red clock makes it super awesome to sleep next to. Also the screen is on all night, it doesn't turn off ever.
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Thanks Rustid. Since I use Dock clock now with my s4 this is immensely helpful. Now I can order my n6 and a qi charger with piece of mind!
Also, there is no magnet to guide the pad to the sweet spot... I have a coaster style qi pad, and if it's no on just right, it won't charge at all, just gets really hot...
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Unlike most qi-enabled phones, the N6 completely stops charging when it hits full charge. Other phones enter a "trickle charge" mode, where they kind of stop and start again in bursts when needed, but still show that they're constantly charging in the battery indicator. Since the N6 completely stops, it's as if the device were removed from the charger, so Daydream, and any other app that detects charging (like the "screen always on when charging" dev option) will fail, since... um... the device isn't charging, and will remain that way until it reaches 98% charge, or so, when it starts up again. I can tell you that Nexus 5 with Lollipop does not do this, so it's not a Google (i.e. Lollipop) thing, it's a Motorola thing. Moto would need to update this in a software update (assuming it's possible) for a true fix.
There are apps that can keep the screen on all night, for use as a bedside clock. They work like any other app that keeps the screen on, however, so they do NOT detect when the device is charging. You'd need to manually exit the app after removing the device from the charger in the morning. They won't auto-exit like Daydream does (or else, they'd exit when the N6 hit 100% charge, just like Daydream). That is an option, although a clunky one.
I don't use my N6 as a bedside clock, but I was concerned about burn-in, so I set up a "Trigger" function (kind of like "Tasker" light) to set the time-out value to 15s when 100% charge is reached (technically, >99%), and back to my regular time-out (1m) when the device falls to 99% while not charging. This sounds like it wouldn't do much, but what it really does is allow my screen to shut off very quickly when the N6 stops charging, and even though it flips back to a 1m time-out afterwards, the screen stays off. Prior to this, I'd often wake to find my phone sitting on the home screen, where it's been for who knows how long. Now, when I wake, the screen is always off, and I can rest a bit easier about burn-in issues.
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Dock clock comes on automatically from Home screen when connected to charger, stays on all night even after full charge, then automatically turns off when disconnecting from charger. Works on free version. The plus version fc's.
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Dock clock comes on automatically from Home screen when connected to charger, stays on all night even after full charge, then automatically turns off when disconnecting from charger. Works on free version. The plus version fc's.
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How does it know you've taken it off the charger? When the Nexus 6 hits 100%, it indicates that it's no longer charging, just as if it had been removed from the charger. How does Dock Clock differentiate? Does it use the motion sensor or something?
...or are you talking about a plug-in charger? The nexus 6 daydream mode works perfectly fine on plug-in charger. It's only when wireless charging that it indicates that it's no longer charging once it hits 100%. If you're talking about plug-in charger, then you should test to see if Dock Clock turns off when Nexus 6 reaches 100% on a WIRELESS charger. I suspect it would turn off, then turn on again when the N6 starts charging again (around 98%).
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How does it know you've taken it off the charger? When the Nexus 6 hits 100%, it indicates that it's no longer charging, just as if it had been removed from the charger. How does Dock Clock differentiate? Does it use the motion sensor or something?
...or are you talking about a plug-in charger? The nexus 6 daydream mode works perfectly fine on plug-in charger. It's only when wireless charging that it indicates that it's no longer charging once it hits 100%. If you're talking about plug-in charger, then you should test to see if Dock Clock turns off when Nexus 6 reaches 100% on a WIRELESS charger. I suspect it would turn off, then turn on again when the N6 starts charging again (around 98%).
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Sorry, I misunderstood. Yes I was talking about the plug-in charger. I don't use the wireless charger at night. Uses more energy for same amount of charge plus indicator light on wireless charger is too bright.
Last night was my first time using the Itian A6 charger, but when I woke up this morning, gentle alarm (in night mode) was still awake and displaying the time...
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Last night was my first time using the Itian A6 charger, but when I woke up this morning, gentle alarm (in night mode) was still awake and displaying the time...
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As a follow-up, no issues with this setup. The wireless charging does turn off when it hits 100, bit comes back on when it needs to. Never started the day with less than 99, which works fine for me. Gentle alarm is still my bedside clock as it has been for years. Now with a bigger screen
every time in used my TYLT when I picked my phone up it was at 99%. It usually says its been on for 30 minutes at that point. I dont really mind because 1%sitting l doesn't hurt.
Here's how I am experimenting:
1. Set Daydream to activate when docked (this is to prevent it from activating "while charged").
2. Set Tasker to launch Daydream Launcher:StartDaydream when device starts wirelessly charging (no exit task).
3. Set Tasker to set display timeout to 23hr 59min 59s when in Daydream (and then an exit task to set it to 2min or whatever).
4. Set Stay Alive! to, well, stay alive when Daydream is running.
Battery discharge per hour (when charging has stopped):
No Daydream - 2.4%
Daydream - 5.6%
First decline is without Daydream, subsequent three are with Daydream (ignore steeper slopes at end of declines when I was using device):
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ETA: Okay, 4 hours after reaching 100% it stayed awake and discharged down to 78%. It did not start wirelessly charging again.
I'm on the Aukey Luna, and it had a glowing LED the whole time. So somehow this is preventing charging.
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I've noticed that when using TeleNav / ATT Navigator, my battery doesn't charge.
I do a soft reset and stop using GPS, the battery begins to charge.
This has happened with several Roms, so this leads me to believe that it's an equipment issue. I don't know if I'm alone with this issue.
Something like this is easy to overlook. The only reason I noticed is because I had to use GPS a lot more than usual and my battery went out while it was supposed to be charging.
If you're using any type of GPS, take a look. If you're good or not, just state what you use.
Thanks.
Mine will charge when I am using Garmin or GoogleMaps.... I have noticed that if the phone gets to warm it will still discharge even if it is plugged in. Keep an eye on the temperature of your phone!
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JFlitt
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I have noticed that if the phone gets to warm it will still discharge even if it is plugged in.
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I've got my phone mounted on a spare belt clip i attached to my dashboard and ive noticed the same thing. there comes a time after it's been charging for a while when the light stops "breathing" but the battery is not fully charged. As far as GPS, i figured it wasted battery faster than it could charge, since i also have bt and the display stays on. I've been meaning to try it with an A/C charger in the car instead of the 12VDC. I'll let you know if theres any difference.
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I noticed the HEAT, my TILT did the same thing but it charged. The only issue I had with the TILT is when the battery is under 30%, I would have pull out the battery before it decided to charge.
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I'm using a mount also (15'' Gooseneck non-winshield). It starts out charging and then stops. I'll try with an AC adapter also just to see what happens.
There maybe something to this GPS & Charging......
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I have the Ac charger in my car and it works wonders. If I run more than three things at once then it will stop charging. All it take is a soft reset. Then all is well. As most said keep an eye on the temp. BTW I am using Energy's 2.0 040509 build with TomTom 7.915(9196)
Thanks Max, I figured the AC Charger would be better, it always charged very quickly at home.
Noticed the same thing on a six hour car trip. I use a gooseneck windshield mount and have Garmin XT and bluetooth to the stereo all the time. After a couple hundred miles it stopped charging and the backlight goes off, making it a pain in the ass for looking at the GPS screen, any suggestions? are u using a ac adapter and than plugging in your home charger? BTW am using an old Motorola car charger from the early RZR days.
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Noticed the same thing on a six hour car trip. I use a gooseneck windshield mount and have Garmin XT and bluetooth to the stereo all the time. After a couple hundred miles it stopped charging and the backlight goes off, making it a pain in the ass for looking at the GPS screen, any suggestions? are u using a ac adapter and than plugging in your home charger? BTW am using an old Motorola car charger from the early RZR days.
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No difference if you use a 12v or a 110v charger.
The TP warms up and at a certain temperature shuts off the charging so it will not extra over heat.
I place my TP where the AC can cool it down and since then - it will charge for hours.
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epriel said:
No difference if you use a 12v or a 110v charger.
The TP warms up and at a certain temperature shuts off the charging so it will not extra over heat.
I place my TP where the AC can cool it down and since then - it will charge for hours.
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That's freaking hilarious. I do the same thing. I notices my Fuze would stop charging when plugged into my car charger if it got too hot, so I simply positioned it where my AC would hit it. Now I don't have that problem anymore.
I tried the AC charger in the car....same thing.
Tried Google Maps also. Basically when I use GPS, charging stops when the device got warm. My device didn't take long to get warm....about 2 minutes.
There's gotta be away around this other than placing it on the air vents. The TILT performed much better with GPS.
my results
finally got a good long run with gps on I-95 and this is what I found:
1. According to tBattery, the 110V charger and the 12VDC charger were the same as far as charge being + 100 with the gps on, so the battery would still be charged if gps is running with the screen almost full brightness, BT on and a data connection.
2. Also according to tBattery, the temperature got to above 46 degrees when I noticed the phone was no longer charging, whereas at home it rarely gets over 33 degrees. The current showed more than 300 negative under these conditions.
SO technically, once the phone stops charging due to temperature, the GPS with screen full on and all the rest tend to drain the battery. Even if the phone is plugged in to the charger. If only it would stop charging the battery but at least take power for the device from the charger, that would have been good.
So I'm going to reposition the device on my dash to where the AC vents can hit it as others have done!
I have two different chargers in my car. The one that will charge my touch pro while running GPS navigation is 5V/1A. The one, that will not charge while navigating has 5V/500mA (which is max. USB-power according to the specs).
Since TP's GPS consumes approximately 500mA (I've read that somewhere on the internet), there will not be enough power to charge. Keep an eye on this.
I went on a 1Hr trip....
AC Adapter-Got hot in about 8 minutes...stop charging, reset needed
Cig Adapter-Got hot in about 8 minutes also...stop charging, reset needed
Aimed the AC on the device...Device charged the whole trip.
Bottom line....Keep it cool!
Lithium Ion batteries in devices all do this as far as I know. I remember back when I used my Dell Axim x51v for navigation is when I found this out for the first time. It would sit in direct sunlight on my dash and quit charging within about 5 minutes of use. One time during the winter I noticed when I didn't turn my heater on that it charged for much longer. Then the light bulb went off in my brain.
Same thing went for my Q9H, Tilt, and now Fuze. A lil air from the vent helps a lot, and keeping it out of the sunlight is an even better option.
After having the Moto 2nd gen for a day I'm pleasantly surprised at the battery life. On my 1st gen Moto I usually got just under 10 hours of battery with the ambient mode on. My 2nd gen has been on for over 20 hours and the battery is down to 46%. The screen has been on the whole time except from midnight until I put it back on this morning. This may be a new feature whereby the Moto can detect if it is being actively worn or just lying on a desk at night.
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After having the Moto 2nd gen for a day I'm pleasantly surprised at the battery life. On my 1st gen Moto I usually got just under 10 hours of battery with the ambient mode on. My 2nd gen has been on for over 20 hours and the battery is down to 46%. The screen has been on the whole time except from midnight until I put it back on this morning. This may be a new feature whereby the Moto can detect if it is being actively worn or just lying on a desk at night.
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Overall battery life has been stellar on my 42mm Gen2. My only issue with it is that at or shortly after it hits 15% it shuts down automatically and won't turn back on till it's charged up for a couple minutes. basically I don't get the last 15% of the battery. I exchanged my first unit and this one does the same thing. I've had it for 4 days now, and going through a few full charge cycles hasnt changed anything.
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Overall battery life has been stellar on my 42mm Gen2. My only issue with it is that at or shortly after it hits 15% it shuts down automatically and won't turn back on till it's charged up for a couple minutes. basically I don't get the last 15% of the battery. I exchanged my first unit and this one does the same thing. I've had it for 4 days now, and going through a few full charge cycles hasnt changed anything.
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Strange. My unit definitely doesn't do this.
I've not had a smartwatch before so the rate of decrease is a little alarming for me. I can still get through a day no problem though - perhaps I could even stretch it to two if it's fully charged in the morning.
What disappoints me is the speed with which it recharges. Since the battery is tiny, I assumed it would recharge within an hour. Instead it seems to charge slower than my HTC One M7, which is notorious for being the slowest charging phone of all time.
Never owned smartwach, impressed by battery life
I bought the 46 and for 3 full days never ran out of battery and and 20 to 30% left at bedtime, ambient on wrist gestures off.. i am playing with it like mad so it will even get better i assume.. but loving it
Only on my first day, but so far battery is far superior to original Moto 360 and even rivals my LG G watch R performance. With ambient on, and moderate use (emails/text/weather) I am seeing 3% battery drain per hour (8.5 hours use with 74% remaining).
I will give a more thorough update once I have spend a few days with it.
Odd my 46mm is at 22% and it has been about 12 hours. Seems a bit short compared to what you guys are getting. Granted I have all the features turned on (ambient display, gestures, etc) It is my first full day with the watch. I'll see how well it does tomorrow maybe just the first drain needs to calibrate the battery.
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I don't have a graph for it but having it on from 10 to 10 (12 hours) mine went 100 to 71% surprised the hell outa me considering the day before was 80 to 30% in about 4-5 hours granted that was with setup and fiddling with apps and whatnot. If it didn't make such a damn nice little nightstand clock I'd have just left it sitting for the night. This is with ambient on gestures on wifi auto and all the heart monitor junk off on the 46mm model.
I got 44 hours out of mine yesterday with ambient on and gestures off. I'm still observing the screen going off if the watch is just lying around somewhere. Funnily nobody else seems to be mentioning this.
How did you turn off the heart monitor stuff? I didn't see any options for this either in fit or moto body. Even checked the android wear app and the connect app. I do see it is checking heart rate at least once an hour or more at times, and just checked it and found it checking every 5 minutes now.
Want bad the other day checking every hour still got 2 days use, but noticed it last night and today when the battery was only going max a day.
Day 2 of battery. About 12 hours and it is at 38%. Ambient and gestures on. Curious as to what you guys are doing for substantially better battery life. I am going to try turning off ambient tomorrow.
i think it would be better if you mentioned the model you have since the battery is bigger in the 46mm model
I have a 46mm Moto (400mah battery). I use 3rd party watchfaces and run ambient (always on), auto brightness, and receive approx 40 emails and a dozen text messages in a normal day. I don't use tilt to wake as I can always see the watchface in ambient, and wifi is off. I pulled off the charger this morning at 7:15am and now at 11:30pm I am at 47% approx 3.6% drain per hour. Have had the watch now for 4 days. This rivals the performance I get out of my LG G watch R. Must say I am very happy with battery life so far.
Can anyone with a 42mm tell me how the battery is with ambient off and gestures on?
Wow, I have had the 46mm watch for two days and both days it had died by 1pm after pulling it from the charger a 3am, not even close to 12 hrs
I do use it with endomondo for about an hour in the morning but still, have ambient turned off. Guess I'll try turning off the gestures and see if it might last a day.
My best day with the 46mm was the day before yesterday. Took it off the charger around 9AM on Monday. Put it back on charge around 9PM on Tuesday. Ambient On, Gestrues and WiFi off. Still had about 20% left but had to charge it for the next day. BTW my 46mm Moto 2 charges just fine with the first gen charger.
My batter life goes from horrible to ok for no reason.
Last night my watch hit 100%charge at around 1am. I took it off the charger and set it on the table. I just over 4.5 hours it was under 25%. Using Wear Battery Stats I see no app activity, and the screen states watch is "Off".
I charge it back up when I got up to 52% before I went out on a 1+ hour workout using endomondo, listening to audible. Both applications were showing on the watch when I check (distance for endomondo and play controls for audible). This only took it down 9%.
This makes no sense.
Think I need to contact customer support or just return it as defective?
Thanks
I have heard that lithium batteries have the best life span if you don't let them discharge too far. For example, a battery put on the charger more frequently - say 50% - will last longer than one where you wait unil 20%.
This comes from the RC helicopter community where they monitor battery life and performance pretty closely. I'm wondering if anyone knows data about this with watches?
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I have heard that lithium batteries have the best life span if you don't let them discharge too far. For example, a battery put on the charger more frequently - say 50% - will last longer than one where you wait unil 20%.
This comes from the RC helicopter community where they monitor battery life and performance pretty closely. I'm wondering if anyone knows data about this with watches?
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What you mention is a good guideline for maximizing battery life. Linked below is a great article I commonly come back to and share out to others regarding lithium battery life.
The advice I usually give is to "fully" discharge the battery once per initial setup or factory reset, and then fully charge it overnight. This will give the OS a good handle on the upper and lower charge parameters to properly report available battery percentage. Most of the onboard controllers for batteries keep them from getting too close to fully charged or discharged, so regardless of what's being reported to the user. The user only needs to be concerned with this middle area they have to play with since they'll never see the "full" capacity of the battery. but even though we never see the "full" 300mah or 400mah, we see the same middle area of each, so from a comparative standpoint these numbers are still valid to extrapolate relative available capacity. if that makes any sense.
Anyways, the short version is that most smart devices already manage the charge cycle pretty well since most smart device users are just dumb users. So if we calibrate the batteries we use with a full charge and discharge cycle, then just use the devices like dumb users, we're probably just fine.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Interesting article, and accompanying links. I believe they are saying the same thing as the RC helicopter folks - don't overly discharge, do frequently recharge:
Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The shorter the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses.
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It's fun to see "how long you can go" without recharging, but it might not be the best practice.
Hello guys,
I'm willing to buy the 46mm. We always talk about autonomy of smartwatch but I'd be interested to understand what affects the battery of the smartphone in% after a full day always connected Bluetooth?
I have a Note4 but I would not lose too much autonomy.
Thank you in advance
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Hi, I'm coming from an SM-930F and now have a SM-965F. I'm experiencing a strange charging behavior. I became aware of this when noticing that the S9 plus when connected to my Aukey QC 3.0 charger in my car via the OEM cable (screen on and GPS active) can only hold, but not increase the battery level. This was completely different with my S7 (same charger) which achieved an increase in battery level of 30% per hour, all other things equal. I now did some tests with a plug power meter and found that the charging current goes down immediately when the screen is switched on by roughly 75%. The charging power decreases from 6-7 W to 1.5 W. Please note that this is the gross current/power flowing from the wall socket to the device. With the energy consumption of the display, the net current flowing into the battery is negligible which explains the observation above. Interestingly, the effect is also present with the Qi charger, but to a much lesser extent (only 20% reduction of charging current with screen on). The S7 does not behave this way.
Has anybody observed similar effects or could check with his/her own device? Is this an intended behavior? Does this mean that - effectively - the S9 plus cannot be used while charging?
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Christoph
I have a USB multimeter and have checked several phones of mine.
This behavior is inherent to Qualcomm Quick Charge. I came to the S9+ from a Droid Turbo 2, both exhibited the same behavior.
Also i've never seen voltage spike above 9V, even though it's supposed to go up to (in theory) 12v (QC2.0)
Samsung support told me that this was not normal. I sent the device to them now. We'll see whether this will make a difference.
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Samsung support told me that this was not normal. I sent the device to them now. We'll see whether this will make a difference.
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1.5W is waayy too low for modern smartphone, I'm averaging about 5W with the regular "cable charging" status.
I'm having issues trying to trigger the fast charging mode on my S9+ with the variety of QC2/3 capable chargers that I have laying around. Just bought a voltmeter to do more testing to see what's going on with these chargers.
I don't even get consistent result using Samsung's charger and cable, so I'm wondering if my port is jacked.
Samsung phones don't fast charge when the screen is on, but it shouldn't drop as much as you're seeing. It should work pretty much as the S7 did.
Hi folks,
I still have an issue with the charging behavior of my S9+ and, as time has gone by and I have collected some more information, I am seeking your advice again.
My problem is that cable chargin while screen is on is more or less impossible.
This is not about fast charging not working. I am aware that fast charging is not fully operational while screen is on.
But 9 out of 10 times my phone does not charge at all while screen is on when connected by cable.
However:
- Charging on QI charger with screen on is working.
- Cable charging with screen off (even with always on display switched on) is working normally (not superfast, but roughly 30% per hour which is ok for me)
- Even with screen on, status bar notification says that fast charging is active and gives "normal" estimated charging times. But the battery level won't increase over time (or only with very low rates).
I already tried various chargers and cables without any effect.
I resetted the phone for several times. I verified that the behavior described above also occurs with a plain phone without any Google or Samsung account or any other apps than stock installed.
Brightness of screen does not really matter (with lowest level you might get very slow (1% per hour) increase in battery life, with highest level it is closer to -1%/h).
I even sent it to the support where they told me they could verify and fix the problem --> without any effect.
I changed the phone. Unfortunately, the new one first seemed to work flawlessly, but showed the same behavior after some cycles.
Interestingly, sometimes (1 out of 10) cable charging with screen on is working at least somehow. Some days ago, I could increase batterery level by roughly 10% within one hour. But I could not repeat that.
I attach screenshots of GSam Battery Monitor which show that charging rate goes down as soon as display is switched on.
Do you have any ideas? How is your phones charging behavior while screen is on?
Best regards,
Christoph
I'm just speculating on this but I always was under the assumption it turns down the charging rate due to heat, having the screen on, GPS going, etc heats the phone. The newer models seem to be more sensitive to it and throttle back faster.
My dock sits on up on the windshield and it doesn't take much when it's sunny out for the phone to stop charging all together, it overheats when running GPS, screen on and the sun is hitting it. I need to find a new mount to move it lower down on the dash...
Thanks for your reply. I also suspected that temperature could play a role here. But I have not been able to verify that yet. Attached you'll find also battery temperature for the charging cycle shown in my previous post. I also let sit my phone in the fridge for a couple of hours before charging without any significant effect.
On the other hand, I find charging rate to be lower on hot, sunny days. Today, with cloudy sky, I could increase battery level by 4% during my 30 minutes commuting time. Thus, if there is a relationship with battery temperature, it's not a simple linear one...
I had to move my phone mount recently because of some changes I made to my car, previously it sat in front of the AC vent and I didn't have issues, now it's not and that sucker overheats and stops charging in no time when it's sunny out. If you can position it where a vent is blowing cold air on it, it should help.
Unfortunately it's already sitting there...
Hi,
I have a charger with a qualcomm QC 3.0 port and other regular 9V 2A ports, so I have the same problem when my phone is connected to QC port, but for some reason it's charging normally when connected to the regular ports.
My phone is the european exynos version.
Interesting, mine is the exynos version, too. I'll try to test a regular port, too.
And also good to know, that I'm not the only one with similar problems...
On rooted phones there are a way to make charging stop at 80% charge level. I would like to do this as I charge my phone overnight at a wireless docking. For my use this battery lasts me 2 days of use so stopping it at 80% won't be a problem. I also have a wireless charge at my work desk so I can just place it there at work also. I don't like to keep topping it up to 100% through the day and it would be awesome to just not have to worry about it and have a limit at 80% so I could leave it on the wireless charge pads whenever I'm close to one. Anyone have a solution to this? I have accubattery that can give me an alarm at 80% but that's just anyoing and won't work especially over night..
I use Accubattery to limit the charge to 80%...it does NOT stop charging, but at least it triggers an audible notification so I know when to disconnect. With fast charging not taking more than an hr, I'm usually around.
But it can't stop it from what I can tell so it won't solve my problem.
search xda for app called battery charge limit
this do what u need
im using it on my s9+
MaZaGnGy said:
search xda for app called battery charge limit
this do what u need
im using it on my s9+
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Requires root
You can't do it without root but considering how quickly the Mate 20 Pro charges there is no legitimate reason to leave it charging overnight. That's a habit from the early days of cell phones that has been strongly discouraged for years. If you leave a Pixel phone plugged in overnight and anything happens as a result Google considers your warranty null and void due to owner abuse.
I'm not using the fast charge..
You could say that its a old habit but I feel its quite opposite. I have IKEA wireless pads integrated into the table at the side of my bed so I just rest my phone on it naturally not having to plug anything in. Same as I have on my desk at work and in a table in my living room. It doesn't require me to plug in anything and I can just rest my phone there it feels like 2018. Worrying about cables and proprietary speed charges that's what's old to me..
Compared with an electric car I Always prefer charging it slow at home overnight or when I'm not using it instead of sitting at the supercharger staring out the window wasting 30 minutes that I'll never get back doing nothing. It's not that hard on the battery and I'm not having to waste time doing it.
I just want to set a charge limit so I can use it between 30-80% without having to control it manually..
Any good at software? Maybe get a smart plug, and either write an app of use tasker to turn off the plug when you hit 80% if I had a smart plug i would do it for u
I had to reread the first post about using (I'm using GSam) to set an alarm, that's exactly what I do. Like others have said about fast charging I too prefer charging at a slower rate to reduce heat and try and extend life out of it (I just know the person I eventually sell it too will benefit from this, not me ).
I just program a notification to my honor band 3 from GSam and it vibrates when it's reached the percentage. I've given up on the routine of when I charge but generally just top up when it gets to 30% as usage varies. Charging to 100% when I need it a full day out away from home.
Can see why you would want to automatically stop it though and make use of them IKEA charging pads. ?
I've even thought about timing the charge of the fast charger from 30-80% then setting the smart plug on for that duration when eyes shut time. I'll here it click before I'm asleep of that I'm sure. #insomniac
Trouble is I can't always determine if it will be down to 30% by bed. Could do a chart showing number of minutes needed Vs percentage but that would probably be taking it a little too far ?
I have a TP LINK smart plug and the app has a timer on it to turn it off.
I have a multi port USB charging hub connected to this.
I simply turn the plug on, set the timer for an approximate amount of time using the app and go to sleep.
I waken up with around 80-90% battery every morning.
Takes me seconds at night, literally
Hi,
before buying S23 Ultra blindly - the same way I did with OnePlus 10 Pro I just wanted to know if S23 Ultra is overheating while being wirelessly charged and running wireless android auto (with google maps + spotify).
OP10Pro is complete trash at this task, overheating in less than 30 minutes - which is the reason I want to change the phone.
Well idk about wireless charging but if you don't fast charge it shouldn't ever overheat. I use wireless aa and usually plug my phone into a charger that isn't fast charge and as long as the phone in direct sunlight on the dash it's good.
Well, the thing is that I want to be finally use my car to the fullest with no cables dangling around. The wireless charger is in the bottom of center console, so it always is in a shadow, but it is not cooled in any way.
If only any phone could handle ~3h of wireless charging along with wireless android auto it would be perfect
I also use wireless AA and cabled charging with no issue but never tried wireless charging in the car. That said, consider using the battery protection mode to cap your charging at 85% that way it will charge for less time and then stop charging at 85 instead of constantly sending a charge in
Well the wireless charger in my car is nowhere near 'fast', it's rather of a battery percentage suspender rather than charger, so caping charging wouldn't do much in my case.
The only thing I need to know is if there is a prompt about phone being too warm while using wireless charger and wireles android auto at the same time for more than 2 hours. If the phone stays within 48 deg. Celsius it would be perfect for this task since no overheating would take place.
kodo12 said:
Well the wireless charger in my car is nowhere near 'fast', it's rather of a battery percentage suspender rather than charger, so caping charging wouldn't do much in my case.
The only thing I need to know is if there is a prompt about phone being too warm while using wireless charger and wireles android auto at the same time for more than 2 hours. If the phone stays within 48 deg. Celsius it would be perfect for this task since no overheating would take place.
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Well, I don't have the opportunity to give a try to it, but I'd suggest that you create two routines like this:
if (phone connected to your car's BT & wireless charging is active & battery level hits 60%) {
turn off wireless charging
}
if (phone connected to your car's BT & wireless charging is inactive & battery level hits 40%) {
turn on wireless charging
}
Unfortunately not a direct answer to your question but using an air vent car mount wireless charger could be a solution. Even if it gets sunlight in hot weather, turning on AC could reduce the heat.
Mozie said:
Unfortunately not a direct answer to your question but using an air vent car mount wireless charger could be a solution. Even if it gets sunlight in hot weather, turning on AC could reduce the heat.
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That would work for sure, yet this would be a pain not to use dedicated cars charger. Plus I'm not a fan of blocking the air vents. Thanks for the ideo though.
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Generally thanks to all of you for your responses!
Still waiting for someone who tested this wireless charging + wireless AA him/herself and could give a feedback on temperatures!
I use my phone for youtube in my car 1h 20m in each direction twice a day, but i charge it with a wire. I dont feel the phone overheating, sometimes when the sun hits it hard it feel warm at the top - where the sun hits it, coz i put it on a holder on middle vents. I'm 95% sure that you wont face any issues, those OEM wireless chargers are very slow, probably 5W, it will be a challange to overheat the s23u with this simple tasks. Maybe if it is 40 degrees and you dont use climate control, you may feel something. In my experience i have noticed that weak network signal makes the phone work harder, this is something to consider too, not only the phone itself. If you put it in the charger from the picture, a lot of other tech will interfere with the signal, plus you are moving with 90-140km/h.
I charge at 15W and i have no issues, you will charge at 5-10W, i guess you wont have issues too. Hopefuly someone with newer car can give you better feedback.
If you are from EU, buy it online, try it and return it if it doesnt work for you You have 14 days to return it - no question asked.
I charge with official samsung fast wireless charger EP-P2400 (15W) after full charge its very little warm. Also I have samsung lather case.
No problems with charging and heating
PRO>KOMP.< said:
I charge with official samsung fast wireless charger EP-P2400 (15W) after full charge its very little warm. Also I have samsung lather case.
No problems with charging and heating
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Have you done that with your previous phones too? If so, what was the battery like after a year or two? Did you notice any real-world/perceptible degradation etc?
I'd never owned a wireless charger before, as didn't see the point of spending money on it, but I literally got two as a free bonus recently (both Samsung official). I definitely noticed the phone get mildly warm even with normal wireless charging (not fast). This is concerning, as heat is the arch enemy of any battery.
With my usual wired charging (which is somewhat customised due to wanting to "merge" cables with my Microsoft Surface device), I get no feeling of heat whatsoever - the disadvantage is that the charging speed is only around 1% per 2 minutes, but that's more than fast enough for me in my specific situation.
PRO>KOMP.< said:
I charge with official samsung fast wireless charger EP-P2400 (15W) after full charge its very little warm. Also I have samsung lather case.
No problems with charging and heating
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How is this relevant to the OP's question of using wireless charging in the car while connected wirelessly to Android Auto?
hand-filer said:
How is this relevant to the OP's question of using wireless charging in the car while connected wirelessly to Android Auto?
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I think it's relevant, as if it gets slightly warm even without using Android Auto, then it will likely be worse than that with Android Auto running. It would be more useful if he specified whether his description was with Android Auto running or not though.
aalikinfo said:
It is possible that your device could overheat while using wireless charging and wireless Android Auto simultaneously.
Wireless charging can generate heat as it charges your device's battery, especially if it's not properly aligned on the charging pad or if the charging pad itself is not properly ventilated. Similarly, using wireless Android Auto can also cause your device to generate heat as it uses the device's processing power and Wi-Fi or Bluetooth to communicate with your car's infotainment system. https://www.aalikinfo.com/
When using both features simultaneously, the added heat from wireless charging and wireless Android Auto can potentially cause your device to overheat. To prevent this, make sure that your device is properly aligned on the charging pad and that the charging pad is adequately ventilated. You can also try reducing the brightness of your device's screen or turning off other battery-intensive features to help keep your device cool.
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I am well aware of the fact that wireless charging + wireless AA is likely to generate considerate amount of heat. As mentioned in the beggining I currently use OnePlus 10 Pro which has one of the worst CPUs there are in terms of warming up.
This whole thread was to find a person who actually has Samsung S23 Ultra and is using this phone with wireless android auto while charging wirelessly and could confirm or decline the phone experiencing problems in this very scenario.
From what I've heared the S22 Ultra was managing heat good enough not to experience this issues, but since S23 is running snap gen 3 and not the same exynos as predecessor then I just though I might as well ask.
You can always close "Fast Wireless Charging" option from the battery settings menu of your settings menu
illetyus said:
You can always close "Fast Wireless Charging" option from the battery settings menu of your settings menu
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My car provides lousy 15W or so charging, so I suppose it wouldn't make a difference.
Still I can't buy such expensive phone not knowing for sure it doesn't overheats in such a simple task.
I've tried it on an X5 and I haven't faced any heating issues.
Jaxom84 said:
Well, I don't have the opportunity to give a try to it, but I'd suggest that you create two routines like this:
if (phone connected to your car's BT & wireless charging is active & battery level hits 60%) {
turn off wireless charging
}
if (phone connected to your car's BT & wireless charging is active & battery level hits 40%) {
turn on wireless charging
}
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These routines cannot stop charging, they can only slow it down by disabling fast charging, charging continues at a slower rate so your resume charging at 40% routine will never be activated. Only Battery Protection at 85% stops charging completely when this feature is turned on.
I have wireless aa and running it for 30 mins = 6% battery drain. I have a slow wireless charger in the car too and running both simultaneously = slight heating. In short, it's not good for the battery's health for it to charge and be heavily used at the same time. To me, wireless aa is a failed cause and can't be as good as wireless carplay. Connection drop outs and excessive battery drains have led me to abandon this.
neilth said:
These routines cannot stop charging, they can only slow it down by disabling fast charging, charging continues at a slower rate so your resume charging at 40% routine will never be activated. Only Battery Protection at 85% stops charging completely when this feature is turned on.
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Well, they do.