May be we starting porting from nexus 5 port
and ubuntu phone while he's at it.... isn't that much work, ist it? common...
Ubuntu OS may or may not be on its way, depends if the dev wants to finish it or has time
Salfish OS may not happen just because of the lack of information.
Envious_Data said:
Ubuntu OS may or may not be on its way, depends if the dev wants to finish it or has time
Salfish OS may not happen just because of the lack of information.
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Port for Nexus 5 already workinig and xperia z2 specifications same with nexus 5 both phones use snapdragon, gpu is same adreno 330, cpu is also same 2.3 Ghz krait 400
E.jonibek93 said:
Port for Nexus 5 already workinig and xperia z2 specifications same with nexus 5 both phones use snapdragon, gpu is same adreno 330, cpu is also same 2.3 Ghz krait 400
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I was seen in mer wiki sailfish os porting to xperia z3c if port for z3 compact is WIP may be we starting trying porting
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So some of the new Sony phones U and P have this ST-Ericsson SoC. Does anyone know if this is a dev-friendly SoC similar to Snapdragon? I am especially interested in seeing something like Cyanogenmod for the Xperia U.
Are there any other phones that have this SoC and have custom roms like CM?
It's not too different from what we've seen before, the A9 CPU and the Mali GPU are used in many devices already. So it shouldn't be too hard to make it work when ICS comes by.
My phone's lost. I dropped it somewhere last night or maybe someone picked my pocket. It's out of service now, wifi/data off, and it was pattern locked. I think the only way for anyone to use it is to reformat the thing. No "Plan B" and I regret uninstalling one of the security apps which would have wiped it clean with a text message.
I've been watching and learning from this corner of xda-dev ever since I rooted my phone. From Unofficial CM7's to Unofficial CM9's. Without this forum, I would have been stuck with a bricked phone a long time ago. There was a lot of help and I thank those that gave tips on what to do to fix issues.
Thank you to all devs for making our lowly O1 the best that it can be, especially the ones who brought in ICS goodness. I've always procrastinated buying a new phone. Seems like every time I come to a decision, someone makes a major breakthrough with the OS. Was hoping to try adfad666's JellyBean today but well... life's life. I guess this is a sign? LOL
I'll settle down with another part of the forum once I've made up my mind on which phone to get. On a side note, any suggestions? Something a step up from the O1?
HTC one x if you can support it
Or HTC HD 2 galaxy s III
Or what I might get - HTC amaze/one s in the US
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Yeah, I've had my eye on HTC phones. But the ones I want are way out of budget. LOL. I checked pricing for HD2, I think I can manage that. But isn't it a windows phone? I guess you can load Android on it, eh?
Hey, I haven't verbally thanked you, but thank you for your JellyBean goodies post!
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Yeah, I've had my eye on HTC phones. But the ones I want are way out of budget. LOL. I checked pricing for HD2, I think I can manage that. But isn't it a windows phone? I guess you can load Android on it, eh?
Hey, I haven't verbally thanked you, but thank you for your JellyBean goodies post!
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Your welcone
Yeah it has a full jelly bean port and almost every android version ported on it. If you are sense fan like me then it has almost every version of sense available for that 1.5-4.0
And it has windows phone 7 on it too
I had that then I broke it by dropping it into a pool
Lol my old Nokia 3310 survived that then I ran it over with my truck(accidentally)
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ps. be happy that you don't live in the US. they have all them bloatware, really really locked bootloaders, no sideloading apps blah blah blah
really annoying
they don't want you to root your device because then you don't get the same "customer experience" and they also say that you might be "tampering with the network" or "ruining other customers experiences" by you rooting a phone that you paid for. BS
And I thought 3310 were invincible. You sure you weren't testing it's invincibility? :silly: Anyway, thanks for the advise. I'm leaning towards the HD2 the more I'm reading about it. Old phone still packs a punch.
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I'm leaning towards the HD2 the more I'm reading about it. Old phone still packs a punch.
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Well, i would suggest buying a phone with newer chip.
HD2 has QSD8250(Q4 2008). I dont think qualcomm's gonna support it forever(like it did with us)
So, you should check this site.
I recommend
Galaxy Ace Plus 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
LG Optimus L7 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
Any phone applicable to your budget and needs in MSM8255(much better) 1-1.5 GHz Scorpion Adreno 205 Q2 2010
Wait for Ace 2
GobletSky31689 said:
Well, i would suggest buying a phone with newer chip.
HD2 has QSD8250(Q4 2008). I dont think qualcomm's gonna support it forever(like it did with us)
So, you should check this site.
I recommend
Galaxy Ace Plus 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
LG Optimus L7 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
Any phone applicable to your budget and needs in MSM8255(much better) 1-1.5 GHz Scorpion Adreno 205 Q2 2010
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I would suggest to wait for Galaxy Ace 2 : 800 Mhz Dual Core (2 Cortex A9 cores UNDERCLOCKED) with 768 MB ram and Mali400MP GPU on Novathor U8500 chip and also approx 240dpi 480x800 px 3.8 in screen!! .WOOOW!!! but it does not come ICS out of box...but naaah WHY ARE WE HERE
Processor is underclocked for battery (Same processor as in xperia U but 1 ghz) so Overclocking is a Breeeeze..
This is not a bash or fanboy, "which is better"
This is an interesting comparison. These phones are almost exactly the same size, and spec'd almost identical.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Sony-Xperia-P,Apple-iPhone-5/phones/6965,7378
If you want to know what an Iphone 5 size is, look at the P.
They are not comparable at all. The A6 is much more powerful and the resolution is higher. The only thing that is the same is the screen size. If Sony release an Xperia P2, then it might be competitive with the iPhone 5, but right now it isn't.
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They are not comparable at all. The A6 is much more powerful and the resolution is higher. The only thing that is the same is the screen size. If Sony release an Xperia P2, then it might be competitive with the iPhone 5, but right now it isn't.
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way to disregard the physical dimensions, screen size, camera sensor size, and the fact they both run 1ghz ARM Chip.
again, Im just pointing out the similarites.
and yes, I know one is IOS and one is Android. Calm down...
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way to disregard the physical dimensions, screen size, camera sensor size, and the fact they both run 1ghz ARM Chip.
again, Im just pointing out the similarites.
and yes, I know one is IOS and one is Android. Calm down...
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The dual core 1GHz in the A6 is on a par with dual core 1.5GHz Krait. It is waaaaay faster than the U8500 (dual core A9) in the Xperia P, not only that but the resolution of the iPhone 5 is 1136x640 which is around ~ 50% more pixels than in the Xperia P. It also has 1GB high speed RAM and SGX543MP3 according to Anand, which is about 6x faster than the Mali-400 used in the Xperia P.
The phones are not comparable other than their physical screen size and the fact that they use the same camera sensor (8MP, BSI from Sony Imaging).
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The dual core 1GHz in the A6 is on a par with dual core 1.5GHz Krait. It is waaaaay faster than the U8500 (dual core A9) in the Xperia P, not only that but the resolution of the iPhone 5 is 1136x640 which is around ~ 50% more pixels than in the Xperia P. It also has 1GB high speed RAM and SGX543MP3 according to Anand, which is about 6x faster than the Mali-400 used in the Xperia P.
The phones are not comparable other than their physical screen size and the fact that they use the same camera sensor (8MP, BSI from Sony Imaging).
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Ok. Sounds good.
Mods close thread.
There is no similarities between the two devices on a physical dimension, hardware or software level.
the Phonearena link that i posted above made the phone sound a lot closer.
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The dual core 1GHz in the A6 is on a par with dual core 1.5GHz Krait. It is waaaaay faster than the U8500 (dual core A9) in the Xperia P, not only that but the resolution of the iPhone 5 is 1136x640 which is around ~ 50% more pixels than in the Xperia P. It also has 1GB high speed RAM and SGX543MP3 according to Anand, which is about 6x faster than the Mali-400 used in the Xperia P.
The phones are not comparable other than their physical screen size and the fact that they use the same camera sensor (8MP, BSI from Sony Imaging).
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I agree with him.
Yes they can be comparable up to some points... But the ip5 has a better CPU, GPU and display than the P...
The Xperia V would b a good comparison...
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Yes they can be comparable up to some points... But the ip5 has a better CPU, GPU and display than the P...
The Xperia V would b a good comparison...
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Yup I agree.... The Xperia V can bash i5 ...
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I just read a geek bench where the iPhone 5 score more points that gs3 and nexus 7 is that even possible? I thought you can compare cause they are different OS.. By the way it says it was a ARMv7 chip on iPhone5 is it A15 or not? Is it better than snapdragon S4 in T or exynos?
Thanks!
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I don't know much about the hardware but, I know it would take an exceedingly impressive hardware spec to get me to choose IOS over android. And I don't think the IP5 has it. Especially at the price/
I confirmed via different sources it's a ARMv7 own designed but still snapdragon s4 and exynos are still better
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look at this : http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_and_v_benchmarks_are_here_promising_too-news-4722.php
in the results, the new line of sony xperias, r getting better results on benchmarks than galaxy s3. How can it be? How xperia t with almost the same specification than xperia s gets better results than galaxy s3 with his quadcore processor ?
Quad core is not yet optimized in android
Android is not ready yet for quad core
Dual core is more than enough for android (well ICS)
Because i think jellybean quad core will do better (CMIIW)
Its not just Xperia T all device that use S4 "krait" Dual Core benchmark is always better than exynos
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Its the next gen snapdragon S4 plus krait processor..u can find out about those over at their site Qualcomm Snapdragon Processors. Just because S3 and HTC ONE X has quad core doesnt make it act fast coz despite of the cores, the normal apps doesn need to use the quads. May be ull get better gaming fps and smoothness with tegra 3 but when its come to web browsing, stability and working potential the snapdragon chipsets actually does a lot of good work. Waiting for the LG Optimus G. Heard they used S4 PRO Quad Krait
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Its the next gen snapdragon S4 plus krait processor..u can find out about those over at their site Qualcomm Snapdragon Processors. Just because S3 and HTC ONE X has quad core doesnt make it act fast coz despite of the cores, the normal apps doesn need to use the quads. May be ull get better gaming fps and smoothness with tegra 3 but when its come to web browsing, stability and working potential the snapdragon chipsets actually does a lot of good work. Waiting for the LG Optimus G. Heard they used S4 PRO Quad Krait
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Quad Krait
Sounds pretty scary
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and about the difference on results between xperia t and xperia s?
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look at this : http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_and_v_benchmarks_are_here_promising_too-news-4722.php
in the results, the new line of sony xperias, r getting better results on benchmarks than galaxy s3. How can it be? How xperia t with almost the same specification than xperia s gets better results than galaxy s3 with his quadcore processor ?
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Because cores != performance.
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Because it's not about number of cores.
Typically the phones with more cores run them at slower clock speeds, canceling out the difference.
It's all about getting a BALANCED spec, which includes I/O rates, flash speed, memory channels, memory bandwidth, cpu cores, cpu power management latency and literally hundreds of other factors.
Both Sony and Samsung are tier 1 manufacturers, which is why they know how to spend money in the right areas when it comes to component costs.
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and about the difference on results between xperia t and xperia s?
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XS Use S3 processor, No Ext Memory, no LTE, 12mp camera
While XT S4 processor, Ext Mem, LTE support, and 14mp camera
If you talking about benchmark
Its pretty far i think thanks to the S4
But the downside is the illumination bar
I really love that bar. if xperia T have that bar i will upgrade without thinking anymore
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Quad Krait
Sounds pretty scary
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The new gen S4 PRO comes in two form, Dual and Quad..LG Optimus G went with the Quad 1.5GHz and a shattering 320GPU. Its gona be pretty fast in 3D rendered games for sure and as its Qualcomm then u can very easily bet that there battery consumption will be less than usual Quads
Qualcomm doesn't use reference ARM Design. they just get the license for A9/A15.
They have their own Design like Apple with their SoC.
The Sony Xperia S has the MSM8660 which is a Snapdragon S3 (45nm, Single Channel RAM, Andreno 220 GPU).
The Sony Xperia T has the MSM8260a which is a Snapdragon S4 (28nm, Dual Channel RAM, Andreno 225 GPU).
The difference is also in the architecture.
S3 = Scorpion: This is the own Design of Qualcomm which is compareable with ARM Cortex A9
S4 = Krait: This is also designed by Qualcomm and is compareable with ARM Cortex A15
The performance of Snapdragon SoC's is incredible. Its not just, that Android is not yet optimized for Quad-Core SoC's but also the Design.
There are already benches available showing the APQ8064 which is a Quad-Core with Andreno 320 GPU. There is no compareable SoC at the moment and if I'm not wrong the LG Optimus G will get this SoC (Q1/Q2 2013).
PhilAd said:
Qualcomm doesn't use reference ARM Design. they just get the license for A9/A15.
They have their own Design like Apple with their SoC.
The Sony Xperia S has the MSM8660 which is a Snapdragon S3 (45nm, Single Channel RAM, Andreno 220 GPU).
The Sony Xperia T has the MSM8260a which is a Snapdragon S4 (28nm, Dual Channel RAM, Andreno 225 GPU).
The difference is also in the architecture.
S3 = Scorpion: This is the own Design of Qualcomm which is compareable with ARM Cortex A9
S4 = Krait: This is also designed by Qualcomm and is compareable with ARM Cortex A15
The performance of Snapdragon SoC's is incredible. Its not just, that Android is not yet optimized for Quad-Core SoC's but also the Design.
There are already benches available showing the APQ8064 which is a Quad-Core with Andreno 320 GPU. There is no compareable SoC at the moment and if I'm not wrong the LG Optimus G will get this SoC (Q1/Q2 2013).
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For better GPU performance, i have seen Qualcomm betting more on MSM8960 than any other. I am waiting for S4 PRO MSM8960T chipset review (will surely be used over TABS only) lets see what it got. Didnt read nor know anything about APQ8064 model and i dont think dat we will get to know about that chipset unless LG releases their Optimus G. Xperia T has the AP series from S4 PLUS but S4 PRO is a total new ball game . Am guessing that the next gen S4 chips can easily be overclocked to 2GHz+ as my Xperia-S is already running on 1.78GHZ smoothly and its a Dual Core S3 . LG announced 2GB of ram for the Optimus G so, basically, 2GHz+ of overclocked QUAD PROCESSOR with 2GB ram is a must have for any enthusiast android developer/user. And if they manufacturer make it to a perfection than for sure its a must kept for the next 2/3 years as android for quads, wont be developed before that time but WITHIN that time. That 320GPU is already like a cherry on top so for now, am just keeping my fingers crossed to know how the battery will perform :fingers-crossed:. Then again, thats just my prediction and thoughts . As is said before, Qualcomm already won my faith over their chipsets . More like Dejavu ..More power work yet less power consumed
Theonlyzii said:
Quad core is not yet optimized in android
Android is not ready yet for quad core
Dual core is more than enough for android (well ICS)
Because i think jellybean quad core will do better (CMIIW)
Its not just Xperia T all device that use S4 "krait" Dual Core benchmark is always better than exynos
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If in future quadcore will be good for android then s3 not gonna be outdated soon
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If in future quadcore will be good for android then s3 not gonna be outdated soon
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It's not only quadcore + Android not optimized to be the reason that Xperia T and other new Krait S4 CPU powered phones are better then Samsung's S3.
The S3 is powered by the tegra 3, and tegra 3 isn't the newest CPU anymore. It's just the fact that the S4 processor from Qualcomm is newer and better optimized then tegra 3.
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It's not only quadcore + Android not optimized to be the reason that Xperia T and other new Krait S4 CPU powered phones are better then Samsung's S3.
The S3 is powered by the tegra 3, and tegra 3 isn't the newest CPU anymore. It's just the fact that the S4 processor from Qualcomm is newer and better optimized then tegra 3.
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S3 powered by Tegra 3? Where did you read that? It has either the Quad Core Exynos or Dual Core S4 Krait in some models variations.
krabappel2548 said:
It's not only quadcore + Android not optimized to be the reason that Xperia T and other new Krait S4 CPU powered phones are better then Samsung's S3.
The S3 is powered by the tegra 3, and tegra 3 isn't the newest CPU anymore. It's just the fact that the S4 processor from Qualcomm is newer and better optimized then tegra 3.
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LOL S3 have Quad Core Exynos .. Tegra 3 is for HTC ONE X and Xperia T came with S4 Plus Dual Core Krait which actually has beaten S3 and HTC both to some serious extent. Hell, HTC ONE S beats one x to some serious level BOTTOM LINE : Qualcomm holds the authentic brain power for androids
I want to make a port of android lolipop to my device (GT-9063T). This phone have only the stock 4.2.2 android and no custom roms.
The rom i`m getting as a base is the stock 5.1.1 update for Galaxy J1 Ace (J110M). The two devices have:
Dual sim support;
480x800 pixels
1.2 ghz, quad core processor
1 gb ram (the same tipe of ram too)
8gb internal memory.
Obs: There is more stuff, but i think the important ones are already here.
Are these devices similar enough so i can port the update more easily? If yes, what is the best thread you can link me to? I don't care about speed, i have the patience to spend a good time working on this.
Well, thank you guys for the attention
I'm not a developer but I believe in the end it boils down to similar processors
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