On a fresh reboot, Smart Manager shows over 80% RAM usage constantly with no apps open. I'm running the same apps as I did on my Nexus 4 and that never went over 80% at boot. The only main difference is that the S6 has WiFi calling. Could that account for this high RAM usage? I wonder if it's related to the high cell standby battery drain bug...
No. It's touchwiz. I had a one plus one. At any given monet I had 1.5GB ram available for my apps. So multitasking on it was wonderful because apps didn't close. With the s6, there is so much touchwiz stuff open in the background that only about 400mb is available for my apps. Apps often redraw making multitasking a miss on this phone. They say unused ram is water ram. Well I'd rather have 1.5GB ram available for my apps instead of my phone having al it's own system apps run in the background and leave me nothing for my downloads apps
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Android 5.0,5.0.1,5.0.2 and 5.1 have this bug, memory management is really bad on those versions. They'll fix that in 5.1.1
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Android 5.0,5.0.1,5.0.2 and 5.1 have this bug, memory management is really bad on those versions. They'll fix that in 5.1.1
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I'm aware of the poor memory management but that results in RAM being low after having the phone on for some time. In this case, I'm seeing low RAM right after boot, which is something even my Nexus 4 running 5.0.1 did not experience.
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I got the same issue with my S6. I switched to Nova Launcher and it's just as bad. I literally idle on 75% and shoots to 90% with any single app open.
It's quite annoying, but it's surprising that something like this is so ram hungry.
I think samsung is aware of the issue but there isn't anything they can do about it right this moment.
Hopefully they fix it soon.
with 5.1.1 there will be a memory fix
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with 5.1.1 there will be a memory fix
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Is that a guess/optimism or is that 100% confirmed?
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Is that a guess/optimism or is that 100% confirmed?
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100% confirmed by google
Samsung Don't know about it ! Hahaha
I opened a Support Ticket with Samsung and read what they said..... That they don't have any known issue. LoL :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Paige: It must be inconvenient as the device is using excessive RAM. I will try my best to assist you.
Visitor: I am using this device in USA. T-Mobile USA
Visitor: http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/01/samsung-galaxy-s6-memory-problem/
Paige: Thank you.
Paige: We do not have any such reported issue.
Visitor: Then I am the first reporting it!
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Visitor: Looks all the links in the web
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Visitor: More than 500 complaints
Visitor: Let do something. I will return it to the TMobile store tomorrow morning, since Samsung is unable to resolve the issue. Anyone knows this except Samsung Support. Wow..... Great !
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Visitor: No Thanks I have it Will return that piece of **** to them tomorrow.
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Visitor: Read, get instructed
Visitor: http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge/515005-normal-ram-usage.html
Visitor: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
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Android 5.0,5.0.1,5.0.2 and 5.1 have this bug, memory management is really bad on those versions. They'll fix that in 5.1.1
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Waiting for Samsung that maybe happens in 6 months.....
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No. It's touchwiz. I had a one plus one. At any given monet I had 1.5GB ram available for my apps. So multitasking on it was wonderful because apps didn't close. With the s6, there is so much touchwiz stuff open in the background that only about 400mb is available for my apps. Apps often redraw making multitasking a miss on this phone. They say unused ram is water ram. Well I'd rather have 1.5GB ram available for my apps instead of my phone having al it's own system apps run in the background and leave me nothing for my downloads apps
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Then I will return it to T-Mobile and get a LG G4.
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I opened a Support Ticket with Samsung and read what they said..... That they don't have any known issue. LoL :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Visitor: http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/01/samsung-galaxy-s6-memory-problem/
Paige: Thank you.
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Visitor: No Thanks I have it Will return that piece of **** to them tomorrow.
Visitor: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/ram-usage-t3072492
Visitor: Read, get instructed
Visitor: http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge/515005-normal-ram-usage.html
Visitor: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
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Waiting for Samsung that maybe happens in 6 months.....
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Then I will return it to T-Mobile and get a LG G4.
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they know about the RAM issue. all tech sites are puting this issue up on the news and me inc have notified samsung about it so that`S bulls*it from Samsungs part saying they don`t know about it.
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For NEXUS devices, where the issue was traced to boot animation nothing to do with Samsung.
I have a Z3, M9, Moto X 2014 & Nexus 6 all running lollipop all of which are not eating ram and have plenty of free ram that they can multitask without force refreshing.
This issue is a Samsung issue - but people like to jump on the blame lollipop bandwagon.
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For NEXUS devices, where the issue was traced to boot animation nothing to do with Samsung.
I have a Z3, M9, Moto X 2014 & Nexus 6 all running lollipop all of which are not eating ram and have plenty of free ram that they can multitask without force refreshing.
This issue is a Samsung issue - but people like to jump on the blame lollipop bandwagon.
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Refreshing is the way Sammy set up the taskkiller. TouchWiz always filled a lot of RAM, don't expect that to change anytime soon. And that isn't a problem, unless you actually run out of RAM. Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Besides, there are countless memory leaks everywhere.. Kernel, Framework, Android... Practically everywhere and always. We can speak about problems if our OOM Killers spring into action, before that there is literally no problem, be it 80% usage or 10%.
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For NEXUS devices, where the issue was traced to boot animation nothing to do with Samsung.
I have a Z3, M9, Moto X 2014 & Nexus 6 all running lollipop all of which are not eating ram and have plenty of free ram that they can multitask without force refreshing.
This issue is a Samsung issue - but people like to jump on the blame lollipop bandwagon.
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Agree. I had the S5 and Nexus 6 and didn't happened to them.
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they know about the RAM issue. all tech sites are puting this issue up on the news and me inc have notified samsung about it so that`S bulls*it from Samsungs part saying they don`t know about it.
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I agree 100% with you. I am tempted to return the freaking S6 Edge to T-Mobile and get my Nexus 6 back.
Hello everyone, I just signed up to this, recently bought a galaxy s6 (here in the uk) I'm having problems with the ram as others are having, I have taken a screen shot of the ram usage, can someone please take a look and tell me if this is normal or not ( I don't know a lot about tech )
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Hello everyone, I just signed up to this, recently bought a galaxy s6 (here in the uk) I'm having problems with the ram as others are having, I have taken a screen shot of the ram usage, can someone please take a look and tell me if this is normal or not ( I don't know a lot about tech )
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Are your apps force closing and can't you open new apps? If no, everything is fine. TouchWiz always uses a lot of RAM, no reason to worry
nookcoloruser said:
For NEXUS devices, where the issue was traced to boot animation nothing to do with Samsung.
I have a Z3, M9, Moto X 2014 & Nexus 6 all running lollipop all of which are not eating ram and have plenty of free ram that they can multitask without force refreshing.
This issue is a Samsung issue - but people like to jump on the blame lollipop bandwagon.
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I agree with you, while I had the Nexus 6 I didn't experienced such bad ram management. I think I will go back to N6.
I am experiencing the same laggyiness that others are referring to with my s6 and it is frustrating especially when the phone is 4 days old.
Scrolling on webpages and facebook app is hit and miss and apps sometimes force close and run VERY VERY slow.
Now, my 2 mo. old S6 Edge lose the feature of fast charging. And takes 6 hrs. for a full charge. After 4 hrs of troubleshooting, fights with all T-Mobile departments they will send me a new replacememt phone for a $20 change fee. Take note, that happened after activating the Ultra Saving Mode for the battery after reaching 5%.
I have been using nova launcher, disable a few google stuff and one drive which I am not using it seems that it does work pretty well i got something between 650-750mb free of ram, thus I have international version which does not have bloatware
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Hi there,
I would like to know what you guys and girls think of the S3, I'm wanting to buy a new phone but I have heard a few bad things about the S4 regarding the camera, and the sim reading. But I haven't really heard anything bad about the S3. So can you tell me what issues you've had, do you recommend the S3 over the S4
For my use I'm an android developer/business use, so camera etc i don't really care about
Thanks!
Read all the other similar threads about our "experience". We don't want to repeat ourselves every 5 days.
S4 is better. Android "developer" is very ambiguous. If you're a rom developer, you'd want to stay away from anything with Exynos. App developers probably don't care.
Fact remains though, the S3 is pretty ancient. Im gearing up to the last 6 months of my 2 year contract. The S3 is far from flagship by today's standards
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You being harsh !
Other than the ram its still big! (Not on the top of mountain, but it still lives in the mountain)
But even with 1gb ram phone behaves amazingly well along side with its quadcore
Screen is a m a z i n g not full hd but hd does the job.
True enough if u like of aosp roms s3 is not the better choyce but yet
On tw u get more bloat yes ... but u have tons of cool features as well.
Bad thing about this phone ... it has is lag moments now and then
Overheats but u get used to it
And has all sammy devices take ages to be updated
So if u have a good deal its still amazing phone if u can go better (xperia z, s4, new coming nexus 5, htc one) go for them.
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Read all the other similar threads about our "experience". We don't want to repeat ourselves every 5 days.
S4 is better. Android "developer" is very ambiguous. If you're a rom developer, you'd want to stay away from anything with Exynos. App developers probably don't care.
Fact remains though, the S3 is pretty ancient. Im gearing up to the last 6 months of my 2 year contract. The S3 is far from flagship by today's standards
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Sorry was half a sleep when I actually posted, but okay thanks
Ver3go said:
You being harsh !
Other than the ram its still big! (Not on the top of mountain, but it still lives in the mountain)
But even with 1gb ram phone behaves amazingly well along side with its quadcore
Screen is a m a z i n g not full hd but hd does the job.
True enough if u like of aosp roms s3 is not the better choyce but yet
On tw u get more bloat yes ... but u have tons of cool features as well.
Bad thing about this phone ... it has is lag moments now and then
Overheats but u get used to it
And has all sammy devices take ages to be updated
So if u have a good deal its still amazing phone if u can go better (xperia z, s4, new coming nexus 5, htc one) go for them.
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Alright cool, properly gonna end up buying a S4 then, But that thanks for telling me
Many Samsung Galaxy devices has lag issues 'cause of poorly customized Touchwiz, even Gaaxy Note 3 has lag issues, even with 3Gb of RAM, so that's why we have some custom roms. And well, actually I wouldn't buy Samsung device again, 'cause of their policy,poorly customized Touchiwz, and KNOX which avoids your warranty when you're installing custom roms, and others modifications without able to restore it.
So it's up to you.
Simonna said:
Many Samsung Galaxy devices has lag issues 'cause of poorly customized Touchwiz, even Gaaxy Note 3 has lag issues, even with 3Gb of RAM, so that's why we have some custom roms. And well, actually I wouldn't buy Samsung device again, 'cause of their policy,poorly customized Touchiwz, and KNOX which avoids your warranty when you're installing custom roms, and others modifications without able to restore it.
So it's up to you.
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I have had Samsung galaxy i9000 / i9200 and now am on s3 ..
i do not agree with the statement provided ..all my phones have worked flawlessly and i have really liked the way xda was there to give me more out of the phone ..
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I have had Samsung galaxy i9000 / i9200 and now am on s3 ..
i do not agree with the statement provided ..all my phones have worked flawlessly and i have really liked the way xda was there to give me more out of the phone ..
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I agree with his statement. Out of the box (stock) the s3 has poor memory management and lags more than anything with these specs should and it is indeed down to poor software.
Of course that can be easily remedied for people who frequent xda developers, but not the every day user.
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Touchwiz getting a lot redraws on my S6 edge, am I the only one facing this problem? I know switching to a third party launcher may help but I don't feel like taking that approach since touhwiz on s6 looks really great. Also the phone is getting hot while charging very frequently, especially on the edge side. Tried cleaning cache in recovery but it doesn't helps. Is there any way to solve this issue?
The only way if it's still possible go get an exchange unit
nikctsh said:
Touchwiz getting a lot redraws on my S6 edge, am I the only one facing this problem? I know switching to a third party launcher may help but I don't feel like taking that approach since touhwiz on s6 looks really great. Also the phone is getting hot while charging very frequently, especially on the edge side. Tried cleaning cache in recovery but it doesn't helps. Is there any way to solve this issue?
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search and you shall find...but i did it for you
its because of the bad RAM management and pre 5.1 lollipop issue..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/killing-apps-aggressively-t3084155
johanbiff said:
search and you shall find...but i did it for you
its because of the bad RAM management and pre 5.1 lollipop issue..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/killing-apps-aggressively-t3084155
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Yea saw it earlier but I don't think that is the problem since multitasking works really well on my device (while playing some graphic intensive games, I can switch to a lot different apps like facebook, chrome and stuffs without killing my games in the background). The only problem is the touchwiz which redraws too frequently, even when I leave the phone without touching it
marcochapita said:
The only way if it's still possible go get an exchange unit
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Yea will head over to samsung center next few days and see if I can get an exchange unit
nikctsh said:
Yea saw it earlier but I don't think that is the problem since multitasking works really well on my device (while playing some graphic intensive games, I can switch to a lot different apps like facebook, chrome and stuffs without killing my games in the background). The only problem is the touchwiz which redraws too frequently, even when I leave the phone without touching it
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redraws is because of system killing the launcher(low RAM) so yes, you are having the same issue as everybody else
johanbiff said:
redraws is because of system killing the launcher(low RAM) so yes, you are having the same issue as everybody else
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I see, hopefully an update in the future will fix it what about overheating? Did you have it too?
We sure hope so .. no overheating here.. gets a little warm when installing many apps but nothing serious even with heavy gaming.
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We sure hope so .. no overheating here.. gets a little warm when installing many apps but nothing serious even with heavy gaming.
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Thats mean mine is a faulty one then too bad have to go back to samsung asap
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Thats mean mine is a faulty one then too bad have to go back to samsung asap
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It really depends on what you call "hot". get a app that monitors the cpu/gpu temp..you might be overreacting... just saying ��
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Thats mean mine is a faulty one then too bad have to go back to samsung asap
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Oohh.. when you charge The Phone it gets hot..all phones do.. not recomended, to play games wile in fastcharge mode!
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It really depends on what you call "hot". get a app that monitors the cpu/gpu temp..you might be overreacting... just saying ��
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Oohh.. when you charge The Phone it gets hot..all phones do.. not recomended, to play games wile in fastcharge mode!
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I never play with my phone while charging, I even try to charge with the phone off, but sometimes the phone really get so hot that you can't even hold it for long (not exaggerating at all)
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I never play with my phone while charging, I even try to charge with the phone off, but sometimes the phone really get so hot that you can't even hold it for long (not exaggerating at all)
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Hey. I was just wondering if you ended up exchanging your device because I too am getting constant redraws on tw launcher even with the 5.0.2 patch/update.
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Hey. I was just wondering if you ended up exchanging your device because I too am getting constant redraws on tw launcher even with the 5.0.2 patch/update.
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Nope I didn't get an exchange unit, waiting for an update to fix this memory leak issue
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Nope I didn't get an exchange unit, waiting for an update to fix this memory leak issue
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That's the thing though. I got the patch that is supposed to fix the memory issue but I'm still getting redraws and my friend got his s6 last week and he gets none. I think there might be an issue with my device. Seeing as a got it on the first day.
having problem
Is it normal that s6 gets hot when im charging it especially the aluminum and it was really hot.
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That's the thing though. I got the patch that is supposed to fix the memory issue but I'm still getting redraws and my friend got his s6 last week and he gets none. I think there might be an issue with my device. Seeing as a got it on the first day.
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I guess we are the "unlucky" one to get a device with buggy software
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Is it normal that s6 gets hot when im charging it especially the aluminum and it was really hot.
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same happens here. Went to the service center and they told me this is normal (I was like wtf??). They want to reinstall the firmware for me but knowing that this has got nothing to do with software problem, I refuse to do so.
nikctsh said:
same happens here. Went to the service center and they told me this is normal (I was like wtf??). They want to reinstall the firmware for me but knowing that this has got nothing to do with software problem, I refuse to do so.
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Ive contacted samsung and here is the mail that i got from them
This is to acknowledge receipt of your email regarding your Galaxy S6 Edge (SM-G925F). I understand that it is too hot to your touch and it will be my pleasure to provide you the necessary information to your inquiry.
As Galaxy S6 has slim design (142.1 x 70.1 x 7 mm) and use high performance CPU of Dual Quad Core (1.5 GHz Quad Core + 2.1 GHz Quad Core Processor), you may feel your device is hot to the touch in using. This is actually normal and should not affect the lifespan or performance of your device. And while charging, the device may also heat up.
Using the device under the environment that ambient temperature is high, you may feel the device gets hotter than usual because your device work in the thermal equilibrium status with an ambient temperature. It is commonly seen not just on Samsung devices, but many other manufacturers devices when the device is used, and it is a general phenomenon of all electronic devices.
mvidez said:
Ive contacted samsung and here is the mail that i got from them
This is to acknowledge receipt of your email regarding your Galaxy S6 Edge (SM-G925F). I understand that it is too hot to your touch and it will be my pleasure to provide you the necessary information to your inquiry.
As Galaxy S6 has slim design (142.1 x 70.1 x 7 mm) and use high performance CPU of Dual Quad Core (1.5 GHz Quad Core + 2.1 GHz Quad Core Processor), you may feel your device is hot to the touch in using. This is actually normal and should not affect the lifespan or performance of your device. And while charging, the device may also heat up.
Using the device under the environment that ambient temperature is high, you may feel the device gets hotter than usual because your device work in the thermal equilibrium status with an ambient temperature. It is commonly seen not just on Samsung devices, but many other manufacturers devices when the device is used, and it is a general phenomenon of all electronic devices.
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IMO that is a very disappointing response from Samsung, I can play the same game on my friend's iphone but it never get so hot as it does on s6. Not sure whether to put the blame on android or samsung
Guys... I've seen a few discussions about this, but the threads got closed.
I've had almost all of the galaxy S series (S3, S4 and now S6 edge)
I'm having lags and stutters while browsing some sites and even scrolling in Facebook, especially when going into Comments and looking at the replies of comments.
I'm absolutely mind boggled that when with these specs there are stutters and lags. I've also got the nexus 4,which doesn't have any issues at all.
I was having a hard time deciding between an iphone 6 (or 6S in fall) the Galaxy S6, but ultimately chose the S6, because I just couldn't justify paying that kind of money for outdated specs of 2 years ago. (Well I now have to admit specs are not everything)
I thought I wouldn't have to root my phone etc. because it'll run awesome out of the box, but that's not the case...
My galaxy S4 is almost running on par with the S6 though admittedly It's rooted and running an awesome custom rom.
I never used to care that much for micro lags and a bit of stutter,but you'd think they would have sorted it out by now with these monster specs and with this premium price now it always freaks me out if I see lags..
Otherwise it's really a beautiful phone with a mind blowing Camera. Though I still don't see the point why they went with such a high resolution for the display. ( if I take a picture on the S6 and send it to my s4 you can hardly spot a difference besides color accuracy and brightness, would rather have better battery with a lower res screen)
Anyone know a way to solve the scrolling problem? ( I tried 0.5 animation and factory reset to no avail)
Please don't shut down this thread like the other one,because it is a real issue!
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Pratz852 said:
Guys... I've seen a few discussions about this, but the threads got closed.
I've had almost all of the galaxy S series (S3, S4 and now S6 edge)
I'm having lags and stutters while browsing some sites and even scrolling in Facebook, especially when going into Comments and looking at the replies of comments.
I'm absolutely mind boggled that when with these specs there are stutters and lags. I've also got the nexus 4,which doesn't have any issues at all.
I was having a hard time deciding between an iphone 6 (or 6S in fall) the Galaxy S6, but ultimately chose the S6, because I just couldn't justify paying that kind of money for outdated specs of 2 years ago. (Well I now have to admit specs are not everything)
I thought I wouldn't have to root my phone etc. because it'll run awesome out of the box, but that's not the case...
My galaxy S4 is almost running on par with the S6 though admittedly It's rooted and running an awesome custom rom.
I never used to care that much for micro lags and a bit of stutter,but you'd think they would have sorted it out by now with these monster specs and with this premium price now it always freaks me out if I see lags..
Otherwise it's really a beautiful phone with a mind blowing Camera. Though I still don't see the point why they went with such a high resolution for the display. ( if I take a picture on the S6 and send it to my s4 you can hardly spot a difference besides color accuracy and brightness, would rather have better battery with a lower res screen)
Anyone know a way to solve the scrolling problem? ( I tried 0.5 animation and factory reset to no avail)
Please don't shut down this thread like the other one,because it is a real issue!
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After I obtained root, applied the unofficial memory bug fix, and installed a Debloated custom rom, the lag permanently disappeared. Consider doing as I did
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Thanks for your response
And I'm sure it's possible to get rid of lag with root and debloating/custom roms. I had lots of fun doing all these things in the past, but now I just want a phone that just works out of the box. It's just frustrating, that with such specs, the premium price and it being 2015 you still have to do those things. And it's become a headache to always look for things that are draining your battery in standby and use stuff like greenify. And with "Powersaving location" apps polling way to often instead of giving them a certain timeframe to do so. (I think Sony did that with the stamina mode )
Well I guess that's the way it is. Maybe I should consider another phone after so many years of android.
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Thanks for your response
And I'm sure it's possible to get rid of lag with root and debloating/custom roms. I had lots of fun doing all these things in the past, but now I just want a phone that just works out of the box. It's just frustrating, that with such specs, the premium price and it being 2015 you still have to do those things. And it's become a headache to always look for things that are draining your battery in standby and use stuff like greenify. And with "Powersaving location" apps polling way to often instead of giving them a certain timeframe to do so. (I think Sony did that with the stamina mode )
Well I guess that's the way it is. Maybe I should consider another phone after so many years of android.
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The lag that occasionally occurs is solely due to the memory leak in lollipop and should be fixed officially in a future software update. Don't give your hopes up too quickly. Also, android is still better than ever on this phone.
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I think it's more to do with the app quality and them not being optimized for specific phones. I mean they have to work on flagship phones as well as on budget 150$ phones. Well anyway let's just hope for the best... thanks anyway
And I saw somewhere that touchwiz 5.1.1 has a built in greenify :thumbup::thumbup:
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I think it's more to do with the app quality and them not being optimized for specific phones. I mean they have to work on flagship phones as well as on budget 150$ phones. Well anyway let's just hope for the best... thanks anyway
And I saw somewhere that touchwiz 5.1.1 has a built in greenify :thumbup::thumbup:
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It can only get better from here.
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I sent back my S6, because of some cosmetic problems and have to use the Nexus 4 to bridge the time it is back. Updated my S6 to 5.1.1. It was better, but still has RAM -issues and lags in the browser and especially Facebook app.
Using my Nexus again (admittedly with a custom rom) I have no scrolling lag at all. It´s so frustrating a 2,5 Year old device is faster at tasks than the spec-monster which is the Galaxy S6. #Sorryforrant
Snowby123 said:
After I obtained root, applied the unofficial memory bug fix, and installed a Debloated custom rom, the lag permanently disappeared. Consider doing as I did
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What rom did you install.
I hate that you have to resort to roms on these phones just to get them the work they way they should out of the box.
The lag is killing me but I love the phone itself.
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What rom did you install.
I hate that you have to resort to roms on these phones just to get them the work they way they should out of the box.
The lag is killing me but I love the phone itself.
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I installed Extreme Syndicate. It was just updated a day and a half ago to V8. It is on the Verizon Android Developement subforum. It has the memory patch applied, has the Alliance framework installed, a custom boot animation, and has many system apps removed (but not as many as V5)
seriously, i hate this phone for so many reasons, but lag never occurred to me specially when browsing,
i am using boat browser Pro, never used any other browser,and every thing is smooth as my iphone 6 side by side.
You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Should give 5-stars, but ram management is still f*ckd. Considering that my old N3 with 1gb less ram could hold more apps in ram than my new shiny S7E
We closed my thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/bad-ram-management-t3329973/page5
Check this out : https://youtu.be/MQ8pTGCcW7A?t=155
Even light apps can't keep in background.
So if I installed a different ROM, would the RAM issue still there?
No. You need root and a few lines in the build prop to fix it
Cmon guys its samsung we are talking about, they will probably fix it in future updates.
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Cmon guys its samsung we are talking about, they will probably fix it in future updates.
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I didn't know they fixed the problem with the S6 from last year...
there is a HUGE improvement over the S6... full stars
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there is a HUGE improvement over the S6... full stars
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Maybe, but it's still worse than an aging nexus 5 which is sad considering the difference in hardware.
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Maybe, but it's still worse than an aging nexus 5 which is sad considering the difference in hardware.
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i think it's at a nice balance right now. it suspends RAM much less aggressive than S6, and not as lax some older custom phones where it can start saving battery by not need to retain apps in RAM...
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i think it's at a nice balance right now. it suspends RAM much less aggressive than S6, and not as lax some older custom phones where it can start saving battery by not need to retain apps in RAM...
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I don't think it saved battery life, the S6 didn't has the best battery life for killing apps... And reload apps make it consumes more power.
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I don't think it saved battery life, the S6 didn't has the best battery life for killing apps... And reload apps make it consumes more power.
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S6 at least for the Edge has lower than average battery capacity to begin with...
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S6 at least for the Edge has lower than average battery capacity to begin with...
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Yes so ?? it had amoled screen, exynos proc...
5 easy.. 18 apps is my record waaaay more than I need!
I have 18 apps in memory, 4 of which are chrome tabs and none are games. I was just looking up verizons customer service number in the Google app. I switched to the dialer and typed in as much as I could remember. Then I switched back to the Google app, and it lost my search results. Typed in verizon customer service again and got the rest of the number. Switched back to the dialer and it cleared the numbers I've typed in. Pathetic. I was getting the customer service number because my unit was scratched out of the box and wanted to exchange it, now I think I'll just return it. My MXPE, which costs half of what this phone does, never had this issue.
Edit: chrome also stutters but I think this might be due to all the ads running. I've always used Ada way before.
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I have 18 apps in memory, 4 of which are chrome tabs and none are games. I was just looking up verizons customer service number in the Google app. I switched to the dialer and typed in as much as I could remember. Then I switched back to the Google app, and it lost my search results. Typed in verizon customer service again and got the rest of the number. Switched back to the dialer and it cleared the numbers I've typed in. Pathetic. I was getting the customer service number because my unit was scratched out of the box and wanted to exchange it, now I think I'll just return it. My MXPE, which costs half of what this phone does, never had this issue.
Edit: chrome also stutters but I think this might be due to all the ads running. I've always used Ada way before.
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SD820, on verizon.
Also now with 21 apps, everytime I try switching to a chrome tab it refreshes the page.
With exynos i never had this issue like you.
I can open easly 10-15 apps and when i switch to copy a number, I tried because of your story, I never had to reload anything, first try I could read multiple times the number and switch to another app an back.
This could be a SD820 issue and not a S7e overall problem.
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With exynos i never had this issue like you.
I can open easly 10-15 apps and when i switch to copy a number, I tried because of your story, I never had to reload anything, first try I could read multiple times the number and switch to another app an back.
This could be a SD820 issue and not a S7e overall problem.
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same here, have the Exynos.. have no problems with RAM what so ever, it holds 18+ apps in RAM
exynos here... the same as the above... no problem at all
I almost posted this to the discussion thread, but I truly think this deserves an exclusive topic!
Yes, guys, Samsung did it again. Just like Note 5, we now have a crappie RAM management that simply reloads every app and websites again after alternating recent apps/games. Just take a look at this first speed test side by side comparison to the iPhone 6S, made by this YouTube channel. Extremely disappointing! This is absolutely unacceptable for a so expensive device like this! Even worse, but being able to correct manage 4 GB of RAM is ridiculous!
I already ordered a Spigen Wallet S cover and I'm just waiting for Brazilian pre-order to start, but now I need to confess that I'm a bit desperate due to this performance, mainly because this simply doesn't occur when using my Galaxy Note 3!
Anyway, here it goes:
Edit: Another video added! Now against OP3.
viniciusrsouza said:
I almost posted this to the discussion thread, but I truly think this deserves an exclusive topic!
Yes, guys, Samsung did it again. Just like Note 5, we now have a crappie RAM management that simply reloads every app and websites again after alternating recent apps/games. Just take a look at this first speed test side by side comparison to the iPhone 6S, made by this YouTube channel. Extremely disappointing! This is absolutely unacceptable for a so expensive device like this! Even worse, but being able to correct manage 4 GB of RAM is ridiculous!
I already ordered a Spigen Wallet S cover and I'm just waiting for Brazilian pre-order to start, but now I need to confess that I'm a bit desperate due to this performance, mainly because this simply doesn't occur when using my Galaxy Note 3!
Anyway, here it goes:
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Yeah, as soon as I saw this video, I considered canceling my order. I'm holding out hope that the Snapdragon model doesn't have this issue, but if it does, I'll simply return it. I don't care how much of a fanboy you are, there is simply NO EXCUSE for this on a $900 flagship device with 4gb of RAM.
I understand some frustration, but so people really treat their phones this way in real life? How much app switching do you do? 1 second versus 0.8 seconds really isn't a big deal for most people. Canceling an order over this seems a bit... Hasty.
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That is pretty crappy. I hope they fix it.
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I understand some frustration, but so people really treat their phones this way in real life? How much app switching do you do? 1 second versus 0.8 seconds really isn't a big deal for most people. Canceling an order over this seems a bit... Hasty.
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Shows Samsung have not engineered the device properly. Even OnePlus got this right.
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I understand some frustration, but so people really treat their phones this way in real life? How much app switching do you do? 1 second versus 0.8 seconds really isn't a big deal for most people. Canceling an order over this seems a bit... Hasty.
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I truly don't bother about milliseconds delay when opening apps or even seconds more to open games (nowadays it's even pretty rare to me playing games, to be honest), as we saw in the video. The real deal is this frustrating, disappointing and, mainly, irritating "reload everything issue" that was so much discussed when Note 5 was released and recently was so criticized also about the latest 1+ device.
We expect low end devices to throw a cold water bucket on our heads while reloading everything we pick under recent apps, but this is unacceptable for the most expensive phone in the world! This is so basic.
And this is not something about not being real life. This is something about the same issue that Note 5 (don't know if S7 also) faced. You don't need to open multiple games. Just alternate between some light apps and this will be sufficient to TouchWiz kill them at background.
Also, this is ridiculous for a phone that claims itself to be a multitasking monster and it's even able to open multiple apps at once at the same time, splitting screen and/or through those bubbles S Pen feature.
For example, I'm writing all of this using my Note 3 and already alterned between weather app, Google app, Inbox and even Google Translator to help me writing this. Just imagine now if I was using Note 7 and this f* Samsung TouchWiz killing background apps thing just reloaded all my 4 Chrome tabs when I returned to it! I would have lost EVERYTHING I typed!
This is not something we can deal of we can handle/accept. No way!
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Shows Samsung have not engineered the device properly. Even OnePlus got this right.
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Yeah, but it got an update to correct this issue. Originally it wasn't right. I remember watching some videos on YouTube about it. So I really have hope Samsung will fix this pretty soon also!
There should be an update for sure Even S7E have a better RAM management. I understand killing games but Youtube and browser or other light apps? Cmon Samsung that's plain stupid.
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I truly don't bother about milliseconds delay when opening apps or even seconds more to open games (nowadays it's even pretty rare to me playing games, to be honest), as we saw in the video. The real deal is this frustrating, disappointing and, mainly, irritating "reload everything issue" that was so much discussed when Note 5 was released and recently was so criticized also about the latest 1+ device.
We expect low end devices to throw a cold water bucket on our heads while reloading everything we pick under recent apps, but this is unacceptable for the most expensive phone in the world! This is so basic.
And this is not something about not being real life. This is something about the same issue that Note 5 (don't know if S7 also) faced. You don't need to open multiple games. Just alternate between some light apps and this will be sufficient to TouchWiz kill them at background.
Also, this is ridiculous for a phone that claims itself to be a multitasking monster and it's even able to open multiple apps at once at the same time, splitting screen and/or through those bubbles S Pen feature.
For example, I'm writing all of this using my Note 3 and already alterned between weather app, Google app, Inbox and even Google Translator to help me writing this. Just imagine now if I was using Note 7 and this f* Samsung TouchWiz killing background apps thing just reloaded all my 4 Chrome tabs when I returned to it! I would have lost EVERYTHING I typed!
This is not something we can deal of we can handle/accept. No way!
Yeah, but it got an update to correct this issue. Originally it wasn't right. I remember watching some videos on YouTube about it. So I really have hope Samsung will fix this pretty soon also!
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My point is that Oneplus is a tiny company compared to Samsung. Samsung should get it right when their product is double the price of the Oneplus 3.
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I understand some frustration, but so people really treat their phones this way in real life? How much app switching do you do? 1 second versus 0.8 seconds really isn't a big deal for most people. Canceling an order over this seems a bit... Hasty.
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So, you're telling me you're okay with paying $900 for a device that has 4gb of RAM yet can't even keep two apps running in the background with said RAM? Because that's sad. I feel like people who downplay this have no idea how a smartphone is supposed to work. If you need an example, see the Galaxy S7 an S7 Edge, both made by Samsung, both of which handle RAM management very well. There is literally no excuse for Samsung to set the app cache settings so low on this phone.
People try to defend them by saying "battery life", but that just speaks to a severe ignorance in how RAM is utilized. Sure, if you have a badly coded app running in the background, it will take some extra battery, but for the most part, it takes MORE battery to reload the apps over and over because that's taxing the processor. It's also inexcusable on a device that is supposed to be a multitasking powerhouse for power users.
Hasty? Practical. I fell for Samsung's crap last year with the Note 5 and didn't return it in time. It took them months and an entire new version of Android to rectify the bad RAM management in that device and mine sat in a drawer because I couldn't stand to use it in its crippled state. I'm not going through that again. Not when there are devices for half the price that actually perform like they should.
I have the note 5 and my background apps rarely reload when I switch back and forth.
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I have the note 5 and my background apps rarely reload when I switch back and forth.
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I can't believe this video has been posted in three different threads in this and the T-Mobile Note7 forum. Comparing any Android phone to an iPhone is like comparing a diesel car to a gasoline powered one. The two OS's are totally different in their approach to performance. The iPhone 6 with 1GB of RAM out benchmarked Android and the 6s only has 2MB of RAM. There are threads here where people are up in arms the Note7 only has 4GB.
As for memory management there's a balance between keeping multiple apps alive in the background for convenience and keeping too many open which impacts battery life. This is what caused all the recent drama with the OnePlus 3 and its 6GB of RAM keeping fewer apps open than the S7-series. Here's a quote from the OnePlus founder.
After a comparison video earlier this week showed us that the OnePlus 3’s 6GB of RAM might not give it the insane multitasking capabilities we all hoped, OnePlus CEO Carl Pei has responded with a few clarifications surrounding RAM management on the OnePlus 3. On paper, 6GB of RAM would lead most users to believe that they could easily have several apps open at a time without anything reloading, however upon getting devices, many users have found that the phone can only hold 3 or 4 apps in memory before removing them. Why is that the case? Pei [the OnePlus founder] quite simply responded by saying that OnePlus has a “different strategy for RAM management that benefits battery”. While battery is definitely a valid concern with the OnePlus 3 considering the smaller 3,000 mAh capacity, it’s definitely a bit disappointing to see performance given up in exchange. That said however, there is a way to get around this. Carl Pei explained in another tweet that the RAM management can be adjusted in third-party ROMs. So with other ROMs that should be released pretty soon, developers could easily change the RAM management to a far less aggressive setting. A potential fix using the first party ROM is currently floating around on XDA, but Pei reminds us that RAM management is handled by more than just the build.prop, so don’t put too much faith in that “fix”.
http://9to5google.com/2016/06/17/on...-surrounding-ram-management-on-the-oneplus-3/
Samsung took huge flack on the S6 because it only kept 3-4 background apps alive. It improved on the Note5 to 5-7 which is what I've experienced over the past year. I'd expect similar performance in the Note7. With all the unique strengths and features the Note7 has if the number of background apps open is a top priority maybe folks should reconsider their purchase decision.
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Comparing any Android phone to an iPhone is like comparing a diesel car to a gasoline powered one.
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What's wrong with doing that ? If you see that the gasoline powered one is much faster, that might then be a reason to buy that one. Even more so if it's cheaper (like the iphone is nowadays).
As for memory management there's a balance between keeping multiple apps alive in the background for convenience and keeping too many open which impacts battery life. This is what caused all the recent drama with the OnePlus 3 and its 6GB of RAM keeping fewer apps open than the S7-series. Here's a quote from the OnePlus founder.
After a comparison video earlier this week showed us that the OnePlus 3’s 6GB of RAM might not give it the insane multitasking capabilities we all hoped, OnePlus CEO Carl Pei has responded with a few clarifications surrounding RAM management on the OnePlus 3. On paper, 6GB of RAM would lead most users to believe that they could easily have several apps open at a time without anything reloading, however upon getting devices, many users have found that the phone can only hold 3 or 4 apps in memory before removing them. Why is that the case? Pei [the OnePlus founder] quite simply responded by saying that OnePlus has a “different strategy for RAM management that benefits battery”. While battery is definitely a valid concern with the OnePlus 3 considering the smaller 3,000 mAh capacity, it’s definitely a bit disappointing to see performance given up in exchange. That said however, there is a way to get around this. Carl Pei explained in another tweet that the RAM management can be adjusted in third-party ROMs. So with other ROMs that should be released pretty soon, developers could easily change the RAM management to a far less aggressive setting. A potential fix using the first party ROM is currently floating around on XDA, but Pei reminds us that RAM management is handled by more than just the build.prop, so don’t put too much faith in that “fix”.
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Ram usage itself has absolutely nothing to do with battery usage. Unused ram cells don't consume less battery. What this guy is saying though is that background processes can use CPU cycles: when accumulated CPU cycles cause the CPU to boost its speed, then it will have an impact on battery life. But that's more due to badly written apps, why would a game that the user is not playing want to stress the CPU ? It's like facebook, that's a perfect example of a horrible written app. Regardless off how many apps you are running, that app will drain battery due to doing tons of stuff in the background and keeping your phone awake. So it's not a matter of how many apps you are running simultaneously, it's a matter of which apps you are running.
Entitlement runs amok. Nobody has a gun to your head and is forcing you to buy it. The other 99% of people who would buy this phone won't care.
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Entitlement runs amok. Nobody has a gun to your head and is forcing you to buy it. The other 99% of people who would buy this phone won't care.
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Man it's just frustration. We all want to buy this phone because it looks so sleak, has this nice catchy iris scanner etc. But then again, it means you'll have to deal with Touchwiz and all of its problems and Samsung's horrible update policy again. The alternative is buying the HTC Nexus next month but that device doesn't nearly look as cool, let alone have new features like an iris scanner. If Samsung would make the Nexus, now that would be a device to look forward to
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Man it's just frustration. We all want to buy this phone because it looks so sleak, has this nice catchy iris scanner etc. But then again, it means you'll have to deal with Touchwiz and all of its problems and Samsung's horrible update policy again. The alternative is buying the HTC Nexus next month but that device doesn't nearly look as cool, let alone have new features like an iris scanner. If Samsung would make the Nexus, now that would be a device to look forward to
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You can't have it both ways nor can you expect Samsung to listen to bunch of people on xda to devote time and resources to fix things. The limitations of Touchwiz can be 80% mitigated by spending $2 on Nova Prime if you truly hate it.
People need to seriously prioritize what they expect in the phone. Again, nobody is forcing you to buy the phone and if RAM managment or an unlocked bootloader is really that necessary, get a HTC, OnePlus, or the upcoming Nexus. I expect people who can afford a $850 phone to have other more important priorities in their purchasing decisions.
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It was also compared to the Note 5 which had the same issue until it was eventually fixed. This information was available in the OP had you read instead of skimmed.
And it doesn't matter what OS is running: Android, IOS, Mac, Windows, Linux, etc., no app should completely reload after it has already been started.
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If you had read the post above yours, you would have noticed that the issue had been subsequently fixed in a later patch on the Note 5.
Come on, people: read, don't skim.
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The limitations of Touchwiz can be 80% mitigated by spending $2 on Nova Prime if you truly hate it.
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That's nonsense. A launcher itself wont change anything regarding the deeper/core android processes like the ram management.
I expect people who can afford a $850 phone to have other more important priorities in their purchasing decisions.
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I dont know. What I do know is that a lot of Iphone users buy the phone, partly, because they love the smoothness of the interface. In fact I recently spoke to a friend of mine who is a really smart university grad in IT, I found out he was on Iphone which surprised me a bit. When I asked him why he said he couldnt stand Android's interface. I said "You mean Touchwiz". He said "what" ? Lol. What I'm saying is, most people dont even know what Touchwiz is, but they do see that a Samsung phone is just not running as smooth as an iphone and I'm 100% confident that that DOES cause people to buy an iphone over a Galaxy.
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I expect people who can afford a $850 phone to have other more important priorities in their purchasing decisions.
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If you're paying for the most expensive device available, you will want to do with it whatever you want (unlocked bootloader, ROM it, etc.). It should operate near-flawlessly. Or quickly be patched to. You should demand the absolute best.
Telling people to just accept whatever they get when spending that much money for a device is just unacceptable. Like the old adage goes:
"You get what you pay for."
There's a reason why there are cheaper vehicles, boats, homes, etc. The cheaper they are, the less you're going to get out of them.
Multi-tasking is non-existent when apps reload after they've already been loaded. This is a deal-breaker. I won't be purchasing this device now until it's been fixed. There's zero excuses for a the most expensive flagship device available to have such a glaring and easily-fixable flaw.
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That's nonsense. A launcher itself wont change anything regarding the deeper android processes like the ram management.
I dont know. What I do know is that a lot of Iphone users buy the phone, partly, because they love the smoothness of the interface. In fact I recently spoke to a friend of mine who is a really smart university grad in IT, I found out he was on Iphone which surprised me a bit. When I asked him why he said he couldnt stand Android's interface. I said "You mean Touchwiz". He said "what" ? Lol. What I'm saying is, most people dont even know what Touchwiz is, but they do see that a Samsung phone is just not running as smooth as an iphone and I'm 100% confident that that DOES cause people to buy an iphone over a Galaxy.
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I was responding directly to the Touchwiz comment and it's limitations. The RAM management issues go beyond Touchwiz and is probably kernel related.
So who cares about why people by an Iphone vs. a Samsung? It's not like Samsung is losing sleep over the perceived crappy RAM management of their phones affecting sales. I still state that people who can afford a flagship Samsung phone vs. other android phones have other priorities than worrying about this stuff when making their purchase. Things like design, a S-pen, smaller form factors for a given screen size, wireless charging, etc. would be better justifications. Again, if you need the other stuff for dev work or "full" control, get another phone. Samsung won't change anything for people here on XDA so it's pointless having angst over this stuff.
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If you're paying for the most expensive device available, you will want to do with it whatever you want (unlocked bootloader, ROM it, etc.). It should operate near-flawlessly. Or quickly be patched to. You should demand the absolute best.
Telling people to just accept whatever they get when spending that much money for a device is just unacceptable. Like the old adage goes:
"You get what you pay for."
There's a reason why there are cheaper vehicles, boats, homes, etc. The cheaper they are, the less you're going to get out of them.
Multi-tasking is non-existent when apps reload after they've already been loaded. This is a deal-breaker. I won't be purchasing this device now until it's been fixed. There's zero excuses for a the most expensive flagship device available to have such a glaring and easily-fixable flaw.
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Maybe for you but for the 99% of the people purchasing this phone who cares? People don't refuse to buy BMWs anymore because they took away the dipstick to check oil (which they have for close to the past 10 years). Don't think for a minute that you're important enough for Samsung to care that you won't buy the phone because of perceived flaws. I find it hilarious when people ***** about not having root or an unlocked bootloader on a phone and when they finally do get that they cry about not being able to use Samsung Pay. Duh...that's the reason why these phones are locked to begin with.
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I was responding directly to the Touchwiz comment and it's limitations. The RAM management issues go beyond Touchwiz and is probably kernel related.
So who cares about why people by an Iphone vs. a Samsung? It's not like Samsung is losing sleep over the perceived crappy RAM management of their phones affecting sales. I still state that people who can afford a flagship Samsung phone vs. other android phones have other priorities than worrying about this stuff when making their purchase. Things like design, a S-pen, smaller form factors for a given screen size, wireless charging, etc. would be better justifications. Again, if you need the other stuff for dev work or "full" control, get another phone. Samsung won't change anything for people here on XDA so it's pointless having angst over this stuff.
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I think Samsung could have pushed Iphone out of the market by now if they had delivered phones that would beat the iphone in every aspect. Samsung's hardware is usually better but their software department is horrible and extremely slow in pushing out updates. The whole reason Iphone still exists is that Samsung is just not delivering what a lot of users want. In fact, if I didnt hate Itunes that much I'd probably kiss Android goodbye and buy an iphone (it works the other way around too, apple could have killed Samsung too, at least in the flagship department, if they listened a bit better to what people want, or did you actually meet someone who likes Itunes ?)