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HI,
realise the pocket pc software are quite expensive... Anyone want to share their license copy, games, utility etc. I guess all can benefit right?... Rather we all purchase on our own.
Or may be we can all chip in to buy.... We can use services like Paypal to remittance money to each other.
Me interested in the Age of Empires Gold Edition. Anyone got a full license one. Nyditot Virtual Display 3.01 ?...
Warezzzz
I'm just speaking for myself here...
I have no major moral objections against copying copyrighted software, but I can also see the point of software companies trying to make a buck. I even co-own a small software company that will be trying to make a buck soon. But please believe me when I say that this is not the reason I'm posting this message.
I would hate to see warez being traded on this system. I've seen what frequent warez trading does to the atmosphere of communities like ours. Before long, professional traders will post requests. People will offer to pay for stuff, warez ftp server addresses 'for-the-day' will be posted, etc. etc. etc.
There's plenty of good forums on Usenet that have plenty of (alt.binaries.)warez posted to them. They have much less good productive atmosphere to waste and they work well.
Omigosh...
Well I don't think warezing software is something terribly wrong (it's not a theft usually), but if somebody likes the software, he should buy it. However, nobody can expect a 18 year old czech student to spend 80 bucks for SSH client he uses once a week.
I think those who use software to make money (companies, managers etc...) should buy the software. Those who just "play" with software and install and deinstall applications 5 times a day can get a warez copy. But if I find a great piece of soft I want to keep (forever), I buy it.
(I don't buy software, I'm a poor student and the software fee doesn't repay itself).
And another thing... I would never trade software here - in public, in a tech forum with guest access...
If you can afford an XDA and the phone contracts that go with it, you can afford the software - most programs are only 10-15 USD. A few like AoE are more, and I can tell you worth the extra money.
Regards
Tim
Basically, i find it rather amusing the comments given. Anyway, my intention is not to spread the so called 'piracy'. The intention was to share files with your so called neighhours. If you think my sharing for example DVD - THe spider man to let the neighhour watch or use, then the whole world must be pracitising that, even your neighhouhood video store is spread 'piracy'. I mean people can always rent it and duplicate at their home right?......
Furthmore, forum is more less like a obtaining information, sharing etc. That's why I use the words like sharing. Wanna to charge those sharing information. If you think this kind actions is bad, I think this forum shall stop hacking the XDA stuff..
I got my new 02 XDA 64MB at US$500 only.... Spend so much $$$ on electronic stuff for what?........ Earniing money is not an easy task. and for you info only a few program is US$10/= Most are more that U$20/=. IF you get 10 how much will it be, and the money is only for 1 version. don;t forget the accessories thats comes with it. If you think u have extra $$$ to spend on this software. Share with it someone who is not as rich as u.
there is loads of free stuff out there if you want it a forum like this is brillant for info but there is a wide range of others out there
My two cents in what seems to become a long thread.
First to answer mac's orignal question. I can't help you (currently :lol: )
In response to XDA developer Peter Poelman's response I want to submit that in order to keep this forum alive we certainly don't need the professional traders.
As for software licensing. I have been/am on both sides. User and author. It's annoying if people just copy whatever they like, especially if they make a lot of money with it.
My justification so far has been. I use 'evaluation copies' for 2 or 3 weeks or so and if it is still in use I buy the software. Is it legal? Probably not? Is this wrong? Probably yes, but I can sleep at night.
We all invent 'our rules' for the world. If you want to be safe, stick with the rules. If not just be prepared to have your [email protected]# kicked every now and then.
Although I sympathise with the argument of being a student, etc etc, that doesn't justify it (nor do my own 'rules' do that). What would you charge someone with 5 children and being a single parent?
And most of the times there are alternatives. For instance in the windows space there is a lot of free software around and some of them are real jewels. If you are curious: www.nonags.com.
Industry responds with free software containing banners and adds, we all hate them, install cracks/patches to get rid of them. Wake up guys. They give it away for free and still we whine. (yes, I hate adds and banners to and I kill them whenever possible). I think we shouldn't whine about initiatives like Palladium if we copying everything we can get our hands on.
Overall my advise is: don't use THIS forum for conducting that behaviour and for the rest live and let live. In my opinion its a forum for undertanding the XDA and its technology. I don't even have one yet ( :evil: ) but I have learned a lot already. One could argue about some of the things tht could be done with the XDA (un-simlocking of accidently locked phones) but it's mainly discussing the device, software and accessoiries.
Being nosy is not a crime.
Having knowledge is not a crime.
But using knowledge could be a crime.
And even the first 2 can be a crime depending on where you live.
Pfffffffffft, I must be PMS'ing. Sorry people :wink:
Robert
I think games should be paid for....
but as far as tools etc goes I think it would be fair to follow the GPL...
You pay for what you make money with.
I'm a frequent visitor to alt.binaries....pocketpc and I've probaly downloaded 700mb or so in pocketpc warez since I bought my XDA...
I have an easynews account which archives newsgroup posts from the last 30 days.
That software I downloaded because I thought it looked interesting; not because it was there. Out of those god knows how many programs I have 12 programs that I keep on my xda at all times... these I have registered:
Battery Pack 2003 <<< really good
Resco Explorer 2003
Lextionary <<< prolly the best dictionary tool
Snails
Marble Worlds
Diamond Mine <<< addictive as hell
Speedball 2 << we love the Amiga !!
Pocket C64 <speaks for itself>
Dockware
Small menu <<< damn good btw
Rhinostats
Truefax
The others I played with for a while and then dumped because they were errr CRAP ? or there were other better alternatives (atleast in the power monitoring area)
Diamond mine I downloaded months ago... and only registered yesterday.
I dont believe in buying stuff I dont need.. and downloading them gives me more time to decide whither I'm going to keep it... or fire it onto a DVDRW and forget about it after a month.
I also have a wares copy of Autocad Studio Max 5 on my computer... $5k to buy in the shops...
most people dont learn this program at Uni (atleast the good ones anyways). Most of them pick up a copy when they are in their early teens and continue to learn with it till they master the techniques. After doing so they go to Uni and get the bit of paper... later on they get a job with a company which has bought a license to the application.
Autocad arent missing out on my license... I'd have never considering paying the $5,000 in the first place.
Some people say that 3D Animation is a craft. I've known people who have been 'learning' it for the past 7 years. Where would Autocad get its budding new business licenses if the 3D warez market dried up and only the large software houses could afford them?
Games are different, you cant make money from them.
I bought StarScape the other day for the PC.
http://www.moonpod.com/English/about_ss.php
download the demo and give it a go
I normaly run games in 1600x1200 or above... but the fact this runs in 640x480 makes no difference.
You might also want to check this site out for some more quality game play... and best of all they are free 8)
http://www.tierraentertainment.com/ (reworked kings Quest I&II)
http://www.back2roots.org/ (shtuff from eons ago)
games from the era of when gaming had gameplay, hand drawn graphics and not just a billion polygons fired at it.
Strange comment from a 3D artist.
software
hi mac
try bear share there is loads of software on there i dont think we should trade games on here i used to use another site for my nokia communicator and it started to trade software and now it gives very little free and has turned into a business venture about selling software and not the product which it was originally meant to help promote amongst fellow users
Well, we'll be relasing a game soon aswell and i would like to think that if people download the demo and they are happy with it, that they would then go on to buy the full version. Its not like the average pocket pc game costs a fortune.
The way I look at it is if people dont buy software, people will stop writing it, I have purchased many games/apps, and am glad i supported the writers of such software. As a result newer and better versions are released, i prime example is Battery Bar along with Journal Bar, fantastic bit of software.
Had to hand back my XDA today - company went bust & I got laid off
Sure am going to miss it
Had it running as a SatNav, used it for MSN Messenger, Browsing, VPN & r/c of servers etc via VNC, had a bespoke 2-way data package on it + all the usual phone stuff. My T39/T68 are just not going to replace it
So if anyone has a spare they don't want? Or looking to u/grade?
Give me a call
Or I might just have to find some cash to get an XDA II :?
It is a common practice here in the US (way too common lately ) to give employees the first shot at buying liquidated equipment. The creditors foreclosing on your business will only be able to liquidate your company's technology items for a tiny fraction of their cost. Aside from marketable items like higher-end unix servers and cisco gear, most companies let employees buy their own cellular/handheld/laptop/desktop gear at considerable discounts. I'd ask if I were you, will usually be cheaper than buying a used one on the open market, and you know exactly what you're geting.
Puff, Mad max is right.
By the way u mentioned used the VNC RC. I've been using VNC for months now to remote control out server and some workstations thru my Desktop, but I was not able to used it in my XDA, either GPRS or dial-up.
I hope you could help me
Thanks
Joey
XDA's for sale
I have two XDA's for sale, both with 128Meg memory cards, drop me a line at [email protected] if your interested :wink:
try ebay mate will be best option
gaz
hi.
I just wanna know if someone here had see something about the ps3 jailbreak usb with the HD2?
It s running on some android phones, Iphone, nokia... but nothing for Windows phone?
But i found a list on psFreedom.com. there s a Device compatibility list. And in this list There s the HTC HD2 (Android) : in progress!!!
It will be very nice if the PsFreedom works without android... A windows phone hacks a sony PS3.
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wait n see...
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8032122&postcount=791
In Progress
In short for HD2: In Progress (But need android for it to run)
can someone please enlighten me as to what the hell this is all about....
I know what the ps3 jailbreak does but what relevance does that have to the hd2 or any other device...............much confusion.........surely we're not talkin about emulation are we
There is now a way to play backed up ps3 games and people are developing ways to do it on different devices. See here for more detail psx-scene.com the htc desire is one of the lastest devices that can do it
HTCHD2ireland said:
There is now a way to play backed up ps3 games and people are developing ways to do it on different devices. See here for more detail psx-scene.com the htc desire is one of the lastest devices that can do it
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and whats wrong with a medium capacity usb flash drive that can be picked up from many good online retailers for less then £5? Why on earth would you want to put your phone anywhere near your ps3? considering that sony will be working on a way to stop the "jailbreak" (what a stupid term anyway. It's a proper hack, done the good ol' fashioned way). You should think yourselves lucky. I remember when if you wanted to play your illegally downloaded games on an xbox or psx you had to get the soldering irons, spend a lot of money on addon chips and hope you had a steady enough hand not to brick your £300 games console but that's what you going to do isn't it? playing illegally downloaded games - probably on your mates ps3 - and your too cheap to buy a usb flash drive and would rather risk letting sony find a way to brick your phone for having the hack saved on it.
Young Sir, you are very foolish. Firstly, you are actually breaking forum rules and secondly your gonna risk your very expensive, frankly awesome smartphone on what i can only describe as a folly.
I will leave you with this thought, though. If you are intent on breaking the law, spend some money on a proper gaming spec pc. At least then no one will be able to make it stop working just because you did what YOU wanted to do with it, instead of doing what the manufacturer wants you to do with it and plus, i'm sure mommy won't mind
this exploit is very interesting for the homebrews, the développement of app... Like the PSP, I buy games but i prefere custom firmware. With him i can do more than a psp with official firmware...
And "secondly your gonna risk your very expensive, frankly awesome smartphone on what i can only describe as a folly." When you do a hspl and whan you flash your phone and you install a new rom... it s not a folly?
sorry for my english...
lol im getting more and more confused now.......
I cant tell whether people are claiming they can emulate the ps3 on the hd2........
(which seems pretty bloody unlikely to me)
Or simply use the hd2 instead of a flash drive to store this alleged "jailbreak" and deploy it to the ps3......
If its the second one............ why the hell would you not just use a flash drive..??
Im not getting into the issues around whether its right to hack your ps3 or not...
Although I certainly wont be risking bricking mine...........
I remember back in the "good old days" of soldering irons..... it was called chipping...... makes me feel old........... and confused
I'll be pissing myself and eating through a tube before long...........
At least I'll have a working phone and ps3 though..
lol! i love it when i'm right!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-11213618
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lol!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-11213618
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So people just want to dl this "jailbreak" onto their hd2 to save on the price of a 4.99 usb stick
Oh well..... get ready for a flood of....... psgroove bricked my hd2 HELP!!!!! type threads......
Safety first Kiddies.........
Just to clarify. The link i posted is confirmation that as of right now the hacks will not work at all if you update your ps3 with the latest security patch and i'm willing to bet a lot of people have blindly done it already, and rightly so, but i do sincerley suspect that is only the first step and there *may* just be a further update that *may* cause data loss or damage to any flash based device that is plugged into the ps3. TBH i really won't put it passed sony to do something like that in an attempt to protect their intellectual property.
Its fair enough as far as im concerned......... you hack it, you risk it.....
the ps3 hasnt exactly been sony's most profitable product so they're bound to try and protect it by any means possible..........
Thanks for clearing that up for me man......
conantroutman said:
Its fair enough as far as im concerned......... you hack it, you risk it.....
the ps3 hasnt exactly been sony's most profitable product so they're bound to try and protect it by any means possible..........
Thanks for clearing that up for me man......
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No worries. I've been chuckling my way round the office since i saw that. Lucky prediction or what?
To the OP,
Flashing my phone with a new boot loader and a microsoft approved operating system is by no means a folly as it is reversible. Sony bricking your top of the line smartphone because you broke their terms and conditions, the law - in pretty much every developed country there is - is very much a folly.
To be sure you understand, folly means the following:
A lack of good sense, understanding, or foresight.
An act or instance of foolishness: regretted the follies of his youth.
A costly undertaking having an absurd or ruinous outcome.
Sorry if that seemed condesending but i'm just trying to make sure you get my point. I would say it's not worth the risk (oh, wait, i did) but now it's impossible so the thread is dead
hmmm. If i posted this question here, it s to know if someone here s working on this exploit. it s a challenge... a lot s of good devs do it on Iphone, Android phone, texas instrument, nokia phone, palm phone...
With this exploit we will don t brik a ps3 or a phone or a phone... maybe we can have our psn acount banned... So it s our problem. ^^
hack digitals gadget isn t to have free games... it s for have MORE possibilitys!
homebrews, movies on MKV, retrocompatibility.... etc etc...
If i do a ps3 jailbreak, i assum it... I m an adult, and a father too. ^^
I just tried to know, why the others scenes (iphone, android, symbian...) are more exciting about this...
Sorry if that seemed condesending but i'm just trying to make sure you get my point. I would say it's worth the risk . but now it's always possible. My ps3 is always on the last firmware...
MathieuLH said : don t upgrade your PS3.
^^
héhéhé
Insanity is a matter of perspective: if you think I'm crazy for me to know that the world is crazy...
Seems that THE hd2 Port is finished...
I'm a little confused about this jailbreak thing for the PS3.
Once I jailbreak the PS3 using the HD2 do I ever have to connect it to the PS3 again?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777120
héhéhé
i didn t try it... maybe this Week End.
M3PH said:
and whats wrong with a medium capacity usb flash drive that can be picked up from many good online retailers for less then £5? Why on earth would you want to put your phone anywhere near your ps3? considering that sony will be working on a way to stop the "jailbreak" (what a stupid term anyway. It's a proper hack, done the good ol' fashioned way). You should think yourselves lucky. I remember when if you wanted to play your illegally downloaded games on an xbox or psx you had to get the soldering irons, spend a lot of money on addon chips and hope you had a steady enough hand not to brick your £300 games console but that's what you going to do isn't it? playing illegally downloaded games - probably on your mates ps3 - and your too cheap to buy a usb flash drive and would rather risk letting sony find a way to brick your phone for having the hack saved on it.
Young Sir, you are very foolish. Firstly, you are actually breaking forum rules and secondly your gonna risk your very expensive, frankly awesome smartphone on what i can only describe as a folly.
I will leave you with this thought, though. If you are intent on breaking the law, spend some money on a proper gaming spec pc. At least then no one will be able to make it stop working just because you did what YOU wanted to do with it, instead of doing what the manufacturer wants you to do with it and plus, i'm sure mommy won't mind
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Were you having a bad day? I never said I was going to use my Hd2 to do this did I? I have no interest in hacking my ps3 because I only play a couple of games and always online so I have no intention of hacking it, but you jump in with two feet and made your presumptions. Your 'my mommy won't mind' comment is a cheap childish attempt to antagonise. Yawn
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Sony bricking your top of the line smartphone because you broke their terms and conditions, the law - in pretty much every developed country there is - is very much a folly.
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Yes breaking the law is not a very good or acceptable thing to do and I advice against it. But at the same time a company intentionally damaging someone private property is not acceptable at all and should be looked down on in the same manner.
I know it is a old thread but just had to say that.
Peace
Hey guys,
Recently there's been talks about piracy on Android and how developers seem to shy away from it and produce games for iOS. That's actually the reason why developers of Infinite Blade refuses to port the game to Android. I've recently gotten the chance to speak with the creative director Matt Small of Vector Unit (Riptide GP). In this interview he talks about piracy and how its equal on both sides of the os. You guys really think its that bad? In truth when GTA 3 came out today someone already posted the apk on this forums mere hours it showed up in the market.
Anyway check it out:
http://droidgamers.com/index.php/ga...-unit-talks-piracy-tegra-and-of-course-games-
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Piracy is always present in some form and amount on all devices. Windows Phone for example is pretty much closed platform, thus very unsuccessful to make bigger impact on the market. There is always "awareness" in big % of the consumers that think that piracy is bad and illegal, so software market is never that hurt. Some polls says that no platform has piracy more than a 10% (except PC of course), so it is not an issue and reason for someone not to port a good game on all the platforms. PC market is the biggest on the planet, so bigger amount of piracy is actually lower in numbers comparing to the others (more than 1.3 Bilion people are using Windows).
Piracy happens on iOS too. It just takes slightly longer, but every paid app that's worth getting gets pirated sooner or later.
The attitudes towards piracy on iOS versus Android are what I find most interesting though. When I was on iOS, pirating expensive apps was almost chic. It was talked about openly on some sites and seriously everyone I knew with an iPhone had stuff like sinful and hackulous in their Cydia repos. Now that I'm on Android, the online community is all about supporting the devs and pirating is looked down upon (at least openly).
Oh yes there is plenty of piracy going around in the android community. I've been doing some "research" on this topic and have discovered sites like Applanet, Blapkmarket, Snappzmarket, etc. Thrive in third party distribution of both free and paid apps. Though it is frowned upon in the general android population, i understand the people that use these sites when it comes down to not being able to spend hard earned money on overpriced apps in this ridiculous economy. (Not saying i support them, i just understand). Maybe we can make a compromise one day, who knows?
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Pirated apps arenpirated for one main reason. To install some sort malware or keylogger onto your phone. Use a pirated app and enjoy what it brings.
As for apps not being ported because of it is just a cop out. It is everywhere no matter what OS it is.
There is one additional unpleasant thing in market. In some stores (not android market) people steal applications, changes its name (without changing application itself), after that they sell it from their name.
it exist in every OS you can imagine, even something ancient like Atari, or as new as Windows 8
as long as there are humans, you can never get away from it
just like the recent SOPA bill even if it passes, it means nothing as people already have work around and anti SOPA internet ready to deploy the moment it hits
that's why the best way to prevent piracy is to offer the App for free, and make them pay as they use it for additional features
this is becoming a very common practice in a lot of games, even Gameloft has joined the play
they all learned that from the MMO free to play, but pay to upgrade schemes
it's a very "honest" movement, and people will certainly pay to get what they want, as there is no way to dupe, hack, crack, stuff that is only available on the server side.
else they get banned
AllGamer said:
it exist in every OS you can imagine, even something ancient like Atari, or as new as Windows 8
as long as there are humans, you can never get away from it
just like the recent SOPA bill even if it passes, it means nothing as people already have work around and anti SOPA internet ready to deploy the moment it hits
that's why the best way to prevent piracy is to offer the App for free, and make them pay as they use it for additional features
this is becoming a very common practice in a lot of games, even Gameloft has joined the play
they all learned that from the MMO free to play, but pay to upgrade schemes
it's a very "honest" movement, and people will certainly pay to get what they want, as there is no way to dupe, hack, crack, stuff that is only available on the server side.
else they get banned
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''Freemium" or pay to play games is a great alternatives, but is in the brink of oversaturation. Its great that we receive games for free, but the micro transaction will only hurt if every single developer jumps in. I'm sure most will charge you for small ridiculous trinkets.
Take a look at Blood and Glory for example. Great gameplay and graphics. But almost impossible to play without purchasing something. I'd rather pay full price just to have everything available. Its breaks immersion when your trying to play and a box pops out asking you a dollar to unlock a level. Game developers should give us an option for a full game.Sad to see vector unit thinking of going that route.
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Isn't piracy even worse on iOS with stuff like Installous? I think developers should just jump on on board - by joining android they're going to make more money anyway aren't they?
Im not saying piracy isn't a problem on Android, but it's much more of a problem on iOS. Google have license checks with the market, which I don't believe exist on iOS. Saying you wont make an app for Android because of piracy is complete ********
I don't get it. Why not just install the free versions and deal with the ads? It's not that expensive to pay for the full app, not most apps anyways? I think pirating apps is more of an "because I can" and less of an "I can't afford it."
The worst is buying an app that receives no updates , becomes obselete and then just sits in your app list forever.....
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But equally, when you put the word "open" in open source, this is something google should have been prepared for. They even give the tools for piraters to pirate files. For example, if I'm rooted and know a package name of an APK, then all I have to do is adb pull the file, and upload it. It is sad that people go out and pirate games because it does discourage devs, but they know the wolves are in the den ahead before they walk into the forest. Apple is jailbreakable, but that takes for-freaking-ever, webOS is now open source, so its gonna have some miiiinor issues, and Windows basically hits the idea of open source with a giant middle finger, so it is horrible, but its one of those things you don't have a choice to do but accept.!
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just make all games pay as you go like sleepy jack and cordy or the many many many MMO "free" to play, but pay to be elite
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I don't get it. Why not just install the free versions and deal with the ads? It's not that expensive to pay for the full app, not most apps anyways? I think pirating apps is more of an "because I can" and less of an "I can't afford it."
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Because not every application has a free ad-supported version
Simple reason google checkout not supported by all banks, the transfer is declined,in india hence we cant buy any app...
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Ok, here I go....I'm sure I'll get mega-flamed for this but..I don't care. I pirate. Alot. Why? Because I'm poor. Seriously. I feel like, its not fair that only those that have money get to enjoy everything. Typically, if an app is good and really proves itself useful, I will eventually buy it when I'm able. Same goes for PC software, movies, music, etc. Why the hell would I wanna waste money I don't have on something that turns out to be worthless crap. And furthermore, the rights holders that seem to ***** the most tend to be (typically but not always) those that are most well off. I'm sorry, but I don't feel bad because I didn't put another dollar in some rich [email protected]%k's pocket. Like I said, if its worthy, I'll eventually buy it. I have paid for all the must have paid apps that I use for rooting my phone and tweaking it etc. Which brings me to another point, the fact that so many seem to believe that the rooting community as a whole only root so we can pirate...pure BS. As someone who admits to pirating, I root my phone for the pure and simple reason of installing custom ROMS and tweaking my phone. I can do all the pirating I want on my PC, I don't need my phone for that. I do try to support devs that provide quality and useful apps, because I know they are working hard to try and earn a buck, just like me...but all the rich conglomerates can kiss my @ss. If I had plenty of money, I wouldn't pirate...honestly, what would be the point? But I don't. So for now I'm just a little dog trying to enjoy myself in world made for big dogs. And that's considered a crime...that's a crying shame.
And on a side note, I'm really not trying to be offensive, just being honest...
I can get any app i want on my iphone for free if I were so inclinded.
reality is app makers make more with ios apps. end of story
Ok so i have an app on the windows phone and store that im in the process of converting to android (c# to java has not been too painful yet but i havent started on the ui ....i think that may be were the pain will be!)
my app was not a huge success but then it was aimed at a niche market, and in the 2 months since i published it has only had 230 downloads and not a single donation. so im thinking of adding adverts this time (hate to do that but a lot of time goes into the apps) or making it paid (hmmmmm shudder)
So i was looking at the requirements for google play and saw they want $25 to class me as a developer, i cant see me making $25 on the app and dont want to just throw money away ...hell im a min wage working doing this as a hobby i dont have this money thing they want lol
but then i remembered with android unlike windows phones i have options ! so what app stores do you guys recommend ?
the windows version of the app:
I realise of course choice of market site will be subjective but want to avoid bad ones that may steal my app and sell it on or have a bad reputation etc