Going on day 3 after I flashed 5.0.2 on my 850f. Very pleased so far. Seems as though the jank has gone, transitions are buttery smooth, and battery life is slightly improved. Finally we have lock screen notifications as well. I see tjat material design has made its mark, if ever so slightly. The device is finally up to par with what I had hoped for. As for what still could be better? Going in to recents is still slow, and from recents to home I see more redraws them id like to. Also would have liked to have seen more lollipop features get thrown in there....anyways I'm pretty happy with it. What do you guys think?
I like the lollipop update on my alpha now. I find It a lot better and I like the features to.
I Like it...A LOT
I like it for the most part, the things i don't like are non existant transition from the lock screen to home screen and occasional redraws when exiting recent apps.
complaints
1. memory is too loaded and it should be less than kk, or not? ...500-600 Mb free for apps is too low...
2. material design needs to be present in more areas, not just 2-3 things to shut the people mouth up
3. unlike kitkat, they put the white menu instead of black. samsung we want the black menu back; ...plus the touchwiz could be more customizable and less resource lover.
these are 3 of the most annoying issues that i have encountered in lollipop
i have to admit that recent button does his job in my phone!
Everything works fine and my only 3 little complaints are the following :
1 ( psycological ) : 1,2GB default consumption of ram is too high. I know that ram doesn't work in android as in windows but i just don't like to see such a consumption.
2 ( practical) : Except from the beta version of Nona ( materinova), the other launchers are facing a little problem : Lollipop doesn't allow them to use the gesture "slide down" to open the notification bar.
3 ( matter of taste) : I don't want to have white backgrounds. They are not practical for my eyes. I prefer dark grey or black backgrounds.
I haven't tested yet the camera and the battery life.
I on my hand hate black backgrounds and am longing to receive Lollipop. As we say in Sweden: the taste is like a but - splitted. ?
I think that the battery life is worsre.
Heavy as hell, phone does not handle so much weight.
Brillormen said:
I on my hand hate black backgrounds and am longing to receive Lollipop. As we say in Sweden: the taste is like a but - splitted.
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Black background saves battery on AMOLED screen. That's why it is important. If it has an LCD screen, no one will care about black or white background.
I found I need to reboot the phone once or twice a week (compared to none with KitKat) because it becomes very sluggish at times due to memory leak.
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Black background saves battery on AMOLED screen. That's why it is important. If it has an LCD screen, no one will care about black or white background.
I found I need to reboot the phone once or twice a week (compared to none with KitKat) because it becomes very sluggish at times due to memory leak.
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Yes, I know that it does, but I really dislike it anyway. The best should be if we could choose what color we prefer, black, white or another color.
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Brillormen said:
Yes, I know that it does, but I really dislike it anyway. The best should be if we could choose what color we prefer, black, white or another color.
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Hi. I have been themeing lollipop apks for a few months now. How would you like a black themed systemui and settings apk ?? Send me your secsettings apk and systemui if you want one ?
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its nice but bad battry perfomance and dvise get realy hot in heavy use and wifi
agree!
user should have the option to choose color. at least black or white
altough the dark green or dark blue would be nice
Hello.
My experience:
1. Battery life - change is to hard to catch. Screen times are better but system drains more battery.
2. Connectivity - for me it was a week point of Alpha and now I think it is worst. Specially wifi signal is worst than on kitkat.
3. Smoothness and responsiveness - hard to tell why but I think lollipop is slightly more smoother and readable.
4. Graphic and visualisation. Much simpler, much flatter but for me ..... to candy...
Overal it could be better but in the end I am not thinking to coming back to kitkat. Only hope that they fix connectivity isue.
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Everything works fine and my only 3 little complaints are the following :
1 ( psycological ) : 1,2GB default consumption of ram is too high. I know that ram doesn't work in android as in windows but i just don't like to see such a consumption.
2 ( practical) : Except from the beta version of Nona ( materinova), the other launchers are facing a little problem : Lollipop doesn't allow them to use the gesture "slide down" to open the notification bar.
3 ( matter of taste) : I don't want to have white backgrounds. They are not practical for my eyes. I prefer dark grey or black backgrounds.
I haven't tested yet the camera and the battery life.
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Regarding complaint #2. Nova launcher was updated to version 4. I can confirm that gestures are now working. Material design is implemented throughout the launcher as well.
edit: some of the gestures are not working. Swipe up/down works but pinch in/out, sliding 2 fingers settings does not.
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This is the first Samsung update I am happy of viva la alpha better camera and phone would be perfect
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Not happy at all !!!
Battery life is worse
Email client for exchange sometimes not syncing emails....
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Going back to 4.4.4
Everything works of
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Not happy at all !!!
Battery life is worse
Email client for exchange sometimes not syncing emails....
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Did you do a factory reset when it didnt work?
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EDIT: Wrong forum, sorry. Please do move it to Q&A section.
I was decided on getting Galaxy Nexus (dat fast updates + looks), when I've read news about google decision to take SXS for AOSP.
Then I reconsider my decision, and choose Sony device as option (I haven't before, because of Sony, I mean SE past, and their sloppy or never done updates). It's actually 100$ cheaper, so it's advantage too.
I have doubts about its buttons. I haven't got chance to test it yet (but will do). Can you tell me if they are responsive or not ? I currently have Galaxy S, so comparison to it would be nice.
Also, how long battery lasts? Unfortunately gsmarena haven't done their test on blog so I can't compare.
Thanks in advance
Compared to the Galaxy S, the buttons on the XPERIA S are simply unresponsive... it requires some adjusting (swiping instead of pressing) but you'll get used to it.
Accoriding to a test from a Dutch website, under heavy duty it's battery will last about 12 hours. Under normal conditions 30+ is manageable: http://translate.google.nl/translate?twu=1?sl=auto&tl=en&u=tweakers.net/reviews/2592/3/welke-smartphone-doet-het-langst-met-zijn-accu-resultaten-welke-doen-het-het-best.html
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honestly. i never understood the fact that Xperia S buttons are unresponsive. I've never had issue with them. most people i know never complained.
then again, everyone press/touch stuff differently
If you need to be precise on the buttons, you want to try them out yourself.
in terms of battery it's alright when you recycle it after 2 weeks (let it die and recharge it to full etc) i usually get 10-12hrs normal daily basis (listening to music, surf, txt, etc)
I've come to the Xperia S from the One X, and yeah technical downgrade, but a like the SXS much more! Though the ui isn't as smooth, mostly thanks to Sony I think, the ui is cooler! Love Sony's launcher, I just hope it gets smoother with an update in the near future..
Now, the buttons! First, they will be a little weird and feel unresponsive, but after a little use they work fine. I have absolutely no issues there..
Battery is far far better them what I'm use to! I've been using my phone for bluetooth music and navigation today, which means Bluetooth on, GPS on and screen on for about 1 hour! And this is without charging.. The day is done and I have 17% left, just checked screen time to be 2.5 hours and up time is 16 hours.
Sidenote: [Edit] My One X would never have been able to do this..
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buttons ain't anywhere as good as those on galaxy s, i have both the phones, sliding helps but i can never hit the buttons in landscape mode..u'll get used to it and it ain't a deal breaker
Also, the black levels are a bit of a concern, i mean it's no amoled but it has the worst black levels i'hv seen. I compared it to my lcd tv, an iPhone 4 and even some old Nokia phones, xperia had the worst black levels (coz of white magic i guess). It just bumps you when you are used to seeing an amoled screen, but on the contrary, the sunlight readability is quite good
Battery is decent, but wake locks has been a problem for me so far, but that's just a software glitch
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buttons ain't anywhere as good as those on galaxy s, i have both the phones, sliding helps but i can never hit the buttons in landscape mode..u'll get used to it and it ain't a deal breaker
Also, the black levels are a bit of a concern, i mean it's no amoled but it has the worst black levels i'hv seen. I compared it to my lcd tv, an iPhone 4 and even some old Nokia phones, xperia had the worst black levels (coz of white magic i guess). It just bumps you when you are used to seeing an amoled screen, but on the contrary, the sunlight readability is quite good
Battery is decent, but wake locks has been a problem for me so far, but that's just a software glitch
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Xperia S doesn't have White Magic, and I don't have wake lock issue.
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Xperia S doesn't have White Magic, and I don't have wake lock issue.
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It's not white magic but it has some similar technology which gives vibrant colours and which rom are you using, i got wake locks on stock, miui and now even on xcream, i removed com.sony.wakelock and sony update app through titanium backup but still no luck
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It's not white magic but it has some similar technology which gives vibrant colours and which rom are you using, i got wake locks on stock, miui and now even on xcream, i removed com.sony.wakelock and sony update app through titanium backup but still no luck
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1.58 fw.
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anything extra you did to improve battery?
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anything extra you did to improve battery?
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Removed/deactivated unused apps, used Juice Defender Ultimate, automated almost anything I can, set brightness close to 25% (and almost 0 while on dark). Enough battery to last MY day.
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Removed/deactivated unused apps, used Juice Defender Ultimate, automated almost anything I can, set brightness close to 25% (and almost 0 while on dark). Enough battery to last MY day.
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You don't have wake locks anymore? Juice defender stopped a lot of stuff (edge ,Wi-Fi, whatsapp) for me and i also deleted a lot of stuff, it lasts a day according to usage but wake locks still occur, it's not like it used to be in my galaxy s in stand by
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You don't have wake locks anymore? Juice defender stopped a lot of stuff (edge ,Wi-Fi, whatsapp) for me and i also deleted a lot of stuff, it lasts a day according to usage but wake locks still occur, it's not like it used to be in my galaxy s in stand by
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For example. During night it loses about 7%, from 11 Pm to 6 Pm... But it's been a while I've not paid attention. About Juice Defender, you need to set it up better, so it don't do what you don't want it to do. The first days it always disabled my WiFi when I simply locked the screen. But if you do the right settings on the Advanced option, it will be really good. It claims to save from x1.70 to x2.40...
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Well try juice defender and notice my usage again, thanks
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Well try juice defender and notice my usage again, thanks
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I will take note of this. Gonna do a test Monday. Will remove from the charger on 11:30 PM on Sunday and run the phone with my normal usage. I will drop you a PM when the battery gets at 10%
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Thanks... Then I'm going to sony centre this week to test buttons.
I wonder if google decide to use HW buttons, or make own SW ones like in Nexus
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Battery is decent, but wake locks has been a problem for me so far, but that's just a software glitch
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What is wake lock? When you unlock your phone, you can use it, but screen is all black ? I did happen to me once or twice on Galaxy S, but that's all. Is this a common issue with SXS?
EDIT: This Captcha is so unreadable and annoying arghgh.
/shameless bump
tytanowy said:
Thanks... Then I'm going to sony centre this week to test buttons.
I wonder if google decide to use HW buttons, or make own SW ones like in Nexus
What is wake lock? When you unlock your phone, you can use it, but screen is all black ? I did happen to me once or twice on Galaxy S, but that's all. Is this a common issue with SXS?
EDIT: This Captcha is so unreadable and annoying arghgh.
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wake lock produces battery drain by unnecessarily putting the phone in "awake" mode when it should be in deep sleep. Some of my experiences with miui and the current .58 rom (it gives around 5 hrs of display time but the wake locks are still there)
I just got my SGS3 second hand two days ago and currently it runs great but I feel something is off. The glass on the screen (while smooth) feels rough when I swipe my finger to operate phone but other than that I dont feel the screen responsiveness / accuracy is where it should be. There is a slight delay that is starting to bug me because it doesnt feel as seamless as it should be. Its running stock XXBLG8 unooted. Could it be the stock firmware or kernel? Im hoping its a software issue that will be fixed with an update since I never had this issue before
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I just got my SGS3 second hand two days ago and currently it runs great but I feel something is off. The glass on the screen (while smooth) feels rough when I swipe my finger to operate phone but other than that I dont feel the screen responsiveness / accuracy is where it should be. There is a slight delay that is starting to bug me because it doesnt feel as seamless as it should be. Its running stock XXBLG8 unooted. Could it be the stock firmware or kernel? Im hoping its a software issue that will be fixed with an update since I never had this issue before
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uncheck power saving, that ought to solve your problem. imo even though cpu power saving claims to only affect the phone when under heavy usage...it gives a speed boost even in swiping between screens.
I just got my Note 3 a few days ago (upgraded from the Note 2) and I am gonna list of what i think are my pros and cons about the Note 3. Feel free to post your opinions as well...
Pros:
*Speed & performance is smoother than the Note 2, the extra 1gb of ram and 2.3 snap dragon is nice.:good:
*Boot up is way quicker than the Note 2.
*I like the new back cover better than the Note 2 and design of the phone.
*The features on the camera are nice as well as the phone features.
Cons:
*Knox! Was using SetCPU on my rooted Note 3 & Knox kept force closing it with its security notification (unless your using a rom)
*The loud speaker is poorly placed on the bottom as well and i tend to cover it sometimes while playing games landscape mode
*The stylus pen is harder to prey out of the phone itself
*The mic is badly placed on the lower left side and if your like me i hold it with my pinky and sometimes cover it up.
*The camera sucks at focusing up close shots, for example if im taking a up close shot of a paper with small writing.
*Phone runs hot sometimes on the upper back side of the phone around the camera area.
*Every time i disable the "transition animation scale" in the developer options....some how when i use the camera it re-enables it all the time.
This was all happening while being on stock non-rooted, hopefully in the future they fix these problems...but for now im actually thinking of going back to my Note 2
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I just got my Note 3 a few days ago (upgraded from the Note 2) and I am gonna list of what i think are my pros and cons about the Note 3. Feel free to post your opinions as well...
Pros:
*Speed & performance is smoother than the Note 2, the extra 1gb of ram and 2.3 snap dragon is nice.:good:
*Boot up is way quicker than the Note 2.
*I like the new back cover better than the Note 2 and design of the phone.
*The features on the camera are nice as well as the phone features.
Cons:
*Knox! Was using SetCPU on my rooted Note 3 & Knox kept force closing it with its security notification (unless your using a rom)
*The battery life sucks compared to the Note 2
*The stylus pen is harder to prey out of the phone itself
*The mic is badly placed on the lower left side and if your like me i hold it with my pinky and sometimes cover it up.
*The camera sucks at focusing up close shots, for example if im taking a up close shot of a paper with small writing.
*Phone runs hot sometimes on the upper back side of the phone around the camera area.
*Every time i disable the "transition animation scale" in the developer options....some how when i use the camera it re-enables it all the time.
This was all happening while being on stock non-rooted, hopefully in the future they fix these problems...but for now im actually thinking of going back to my Note 2
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Thanks for your observations. I will disagree with you on a few points based upon my experience...
The battery life on my Note 3 is much better than on my Note 2
I'm glad that the S-Pen is harder to pull out. We have over 600 Note 2s at work and people have lost their S-Pens because they have fallen out somewhere.
I have not experienced the phone running hot at all.
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Thanks for your observations. I will disagree with you on a few points based upon my experience...
The battery life on my Note 3 is much better than on my Note 2
I'm glad that the S-Pen is harder to pull out. We have over 600 Note 2s at work and people have lost their S-Pens because they have fallen out somewhere.
I have not experienced the phone running hot at all.
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Well mine has gotten hot a few times...heard its something to do with the SD card...thus killing my battery faster
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insane209 said:
Well mine has gotten hot a few times...heard its something to do with the SD card...thus killing my battery faster
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I have a PNY 64GB Class 10 card in my Note 3... so far so good.
Me too exact card...i searched forums around here and ppl are saying it can be various files in the card....hope they fix this soon
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Pro's & Con's
I have the Sprint white 32gig model.
The Pros:
Bright screen
Battery lasts better than my Note 2
Charges faster with the new USB 3.0 plug
Screen size is nice
Faster/better 3G data connect than Note 2
Cons: (taking a deep breath)
The voice quality on a connected call is horrible, with snaps, crackles, and pops.
The Wi-Fi antenna is horrible. Laptop connects at "Excellent signal strength" while the Note 3 displays "signal not stable/weak signal" and doesn't connect. Sometimes it also sits there stating, "verifying IP address" and never connects, while the laptop is connected fine.
There seems to be a slight delay between screen tap and execution of an app.
The SNote program is buggy, with templates you don't actually type into (i.e., lined paper template) as on the Note 2. The templates are more like wallpapers, and misaligned to the text (further giving you that feel that there's a disconnection between screen and input).
The KIES program is not backwards compatible. The 3.0 version does not support the Note 2's 2.6 version, making backup/restore from Note 2 onto Note 3 impossible. There's no way to get Native "phone" calendar entries on the Note 2 over to the Note 3. The Smartswitch app also doesn't transfer Note 2 native calendar entries over to the Note 3.
The web interface is buggy when trying to enter text in web forms. Text changes size as you're typjng, obscuring your view of what you're typing. Entering text within a web text field is difficult in landscape mode as there's one to two lines to work with because the screen keyboard/word detection and notification bar cover everything else. You can disable some of these in settings, but a like to see the time when I'm typing.
There is an obvious delay between tapping on a text entry field and and the Swype keyboard displaying.
Just my observations
John
And sometimes when i press the unlock button to turn the screen on it turns on super bright for a quick sec then dims back down to where i had it...not sure if its because i have it unclocked to run slower and screen off or not though....
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insane209 said:
I just got my Note 3 a few days ago (upgraded from the Note 2) and I am gonna list of what i think are my pros and cons about the Note 3. Feel free to post your opinions as well...
Pros:
*Speed & performance is smoother than the Note 2, the extra 1gb of ram and 2.3 snap dragon is nice.:good:
*Boot up is way quicker than the Note 2.
*I like the new back cover better than the Note 2 and design of the phone.
*The features on the camera are nice as well as the phone features.
Cons:
*Knox! Was using SetCPU on my rooted Note 3 & Knox kept force closing it with its security notification (unless your using a rom)
*The battery life sucks compared to the Note 2
*The stylus pen is harder to prey out of the phone itself
*The mic is badly placed on the lower left side and if your like me i hold it with my pinky and sometimes cover it up.
*The camera sucks at focusing up close shots, for example if im taking a up close shot of a paper with small writing.
*Phone runs hot sometimes on the upper back side of the phone around the camera area.
*Every time i disable the "transition animation scale" in the developer options....some how when i use the camera it re-enables it all the time.
This was all happening while being on stock non-rooted, hopefully in the future they fix these problems...but for now im actually thinking of going back to my Note 2
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you say you are rooted then you say this all happened while running stock, non-root. make up your mind.
only thing ive noticed that irritates me is when i want to turn the screen off it takes an extra second or 2... :good:
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you say you are rooted then you say this all happened while running stock, non-root. make up your mind.
only thing ive noticed that irritates me is when i want to turn the screen off it takes an extra second or 2... :good:
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Majority of it happen on stock, except the setcpu
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insane209 said:
And sometimes when i press the unlock button to turn the screen on it turns on super bright for a quick sec then dims back down to where i had it...not sure if its because i have it unclocked to run slower and screen off or not though....
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Try turning off Auto Screen Brightness and see if it still happens.
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Try turning off Auto Screen Brightness and see if it still happens.
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Not on auto
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Not on auto
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And also the loud speaker is poorly placed at the bottom so when i play a game on it landscape mode i tend to cover it up
Please note this is my first thread and not dwelling deep in to the techs of the phone.
Amazon kindly delivered my Xperia 10 Plus this morning and like a little child at Xmas, couldn't wait to unpack and power on.
Now my current status is I have been running on Xperia XZ Premium for last 18 months and decided to see what the deal is with the larger screen X10 plus.
First glance, it's tall, big a just a tad slimmer, suppose that'll be for the one hand use.
Installation of micro sd card and memory card a breeze and since I opted for the dual sim, the sim tray can handle 2 sims easily.
Pros
OS seems to be quicker but the boot up time isn't
Camera capture has improved compared to XZP and will need to check this tomorrow on daylight
The little widgets like side sense is a good way to use phone on handed
handset in one hand feels comfortable and very light but still purchased a case for the phone for the additional protection
Cons
Took a while to remove the google search bar on home screen as OS 9 seems to do this differently when it comes to removing (had to Google it)
Charging time does take a little longer in my experience but this could be down to battery care and stamina
You can't customise what screen is your home screen so if you have 3 screens, 1st screen is your home screen, This is issue for me since I like my icons/apps setup in a way makes to easier for me. Could possibly not be setting the home screen correctly
Had a strange issue with restore from my Google account and it placed two icons for each app downloaded so ended up factory reset and seems to resolve the issue
All in all, still early days as not much time to fiddle with the phone as I required to setup again and juggle the icons on home screen as sadly this didn't do on backup from old phone.
I'll add more comments when I have managed to play with the phone more.
Thanks.
Well, been a few days using the phone and so far had the following as issues or switched off.
1. Camera seems to crash twice on use where app opens but buttons doesn't respond until you have the crash notification. Albeit camera quality is very good compared to XZP.
2. Switched off the Swipe up on home button as it seemed to get messed up with me wanting to access all apps from swiping up from the bottom of phone.
3. As someone else mentioned before, games touch screen buttons not optimised as some games buttons are low right side and makes it very awkward to use when playing.
4. Couple of times you press an icon on app and doesn't seem to launch or takes a while to do anything. One app i remember is launching the messenger app for FB from the FB app. Did sod all and restarted handset to fix it.
I would take some quality pics but where I live is a bit trashy so nothing good atm and will wait for weather to improve.
Just hope others who have the same phone report on same issues for Sony to fix
anyone know how to get the "recent apps" button to show up on the nav bar? I dont see one anywhere, or, how to enable it
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anyone know how to get the "recent apps" button to show up on the nav bar? I dont see one anywhere, or, how to enable it
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I think you need to open the Xperia Launcher settings. Just hold down your finger on one of the homescreens. The 2nd or 3rd option should give you the old navbar back
thanks, but there is no mention of navbar anywhere in the Xperia Launcher settings..:crying:
wase4711 said:
thanks, but there is no mention of navbar anywhere in the Xperia Launcher settings..:crying:
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My bad it's in the display settings under advanced. "Swipe up on home button". Don't have my phone right now, had to send it in so i couldn't say for sure. Thought it was hidden quite well :/
perfect, thanks!
How's low light recording and pics ?
Does it support Camera2 API RAW capture?
bellissimo.io said:
Does it support Camera2 API RAW capture?
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Camera2 API Probe reported no.
I have no issues with my Sony Xperia 10 Plus after 4 months so far. It's fast and smooth in my use. I can take great pictures and videos. 21:9 experience is great and amazing!
How is battery life and sot?
I'm seriously considering this phone as an upgrade. I'm in Asia so models here come with 6gb of ram. I'm currently on the z5 premium. Would you say there is any improvement in performance between the xz premium and the 10 plus?
Mike3009 said:
I'm seriously considering this phone as an upgrade. I'm in Asia so models here come with 6gb of ram. I'm currently on the z5 premium. Would you say there is any improvement in performance between the xz premium and the 10 plus?
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Performance on XZ premium is better compared with Xperia 10 plus. Xperia 10 plus is sluggish en general use. I think there is a problem with the launcher optimization. The only way that i founded to acelerate the smartphone is to deactivating "Animations". After that, the Xperia 10 plus beahvior, results in a great performance, smooth. If you install a 3rd party launcher, the sluggish problem appears again. This phone definitively needs software optimization from Sony. I waiting android 10 fix this situation. I want to highlight that the sound quality from bluetooth is amazing, i thinl is better that xz premium, XZ2. I dont know if Sony increase the audio quality in this model.
I bought this phone yesterday from best buy and to me what a pile of junk, the screen just above the power button actually is separating from the plastic frame, I hear faint pop like sound and I start pressing on the edge of the screen I heard the sound again, on further inspection looks like the adhesive tape they must use to attach the screen to the frame is letting loose from the main frame, this thing is slow and very sluggish. I would advise people not to buy this phone, for the price..... you can buy a older flagship phone or even a oneplus 6t or 6 for less used and runs circles around this sony phone.
Had the Zenfone 9 for a little while and thought I'd share some thoughts. Been using the device for as my main machine for basic work (email, document writing, ssh/remote management, video calling) and personal applications (social media, reading, watching videos, not gaming). Here's been my experience.
Size/Screen
despite people focusing on how compact the phone is it doesn't feel that small in a good way (especially compared to the iPhone mini). Screen size does not interfere with any applications I've used the phone for, even reading which I had some worries about before purchase. The biggest downside of the compact size I ran into was the typing experience, but that becomes much better with a keyboard that has good gesture support and some aggressive autocorrect. Overall it feels great in the hand as someone with large hands.
Visually the screen is sharp, has great viewing angles, and the brightness is good even for outdoor use in direct sunlight. I can't say much for the refresh rate since I keep it on 60 but I will say the DC dimming works a charm even if it's only available on 60 Hz mode. Touch is responsive and i haven't experienced any touch jitters, but the palm rejection is bad enough that I'd call the phone unusable without a case if you tend to hold the phone like I do.
Gesture Controll
As a long-time Oneplus user I do miss the 3 way switch for the ringer, but have found a compromise using the press and hold on the power button as a toggle between modes which has been working well for me. The other smart key functionality of swiping on the power button I've turned off as it's way too easy to accidentally activate when held in the right hand.
The screen off gestures for media control which I enjoyed on Oneplus are here in the Asus but are currently broken, the "ll" pause gesture instead reading out the time and not pausing the video for some reason, when that's fixed at least they are all very responsive.
The back double tap gesture is very inconsistent, I keep it on for the flashlight and haven't had any issues with false activations, but it often takes a few tries to activate.
Battery/Charging
Battery life has been good, getting through a day of heavy use without a problem on 60Hz mode. Charging is fast but does heat up the phone, I've kept mine on ultra steady charge mode which slows down charging to dispel heat and battery longevity issues (around 10W, normal steady charge is around 13W). The charger that came with the device is a C to C charger with a cable that works for data and power.
Performance
I'm not a mobile gamer so I've yet to push the processor in any meaningful way, badly optimized apps that I have had issues with in the past all work smoothly. Video playback/acceleration have been smooth as well as processing large file transfers. Boot up and restart times are very snappy.
Networking/Connectivity
No issues with my Canadian SIM, dual sim works fine. WiFi hasn't had problems with my WiFi 5 and 6 Routers even in dual channel mode which works seamlessly on dual channel networks connecting in both bands. 5G isn't widespread in my area so i haven't had a chance to test it, but 4G+ works as expected. On the physical ports side I have only been able to get USB 2 speeds out of the USB C port for file transfers which isn't really an issue for my use and the headphone jack packs a punch running my DT-770 80 ohms without a problem.
Cameras
They're definitely cameras, I'm not really a camera guy so I wouldn't know what to look for. I haven't had any noticable issues, photos do take a bit longer than my previous phones from pressing the button to the photo being taken but I assume that's because there's a lot more photo processing going on with newer phones. The back lenses do need to be wiped off most of the time since at least for me my fingers tend to naturally rest on them. Front camera also hasn't given me any issues but I'm not a huge fan of the metal ring inside which makes the hole punch more noticeable.
ZenUI
Played around with the launcher a bit before switching off of it, seems like a good relatively stock Android experience with some quality of life improvements. Hasn't given me a reason to switch away from Niagra launcher though (which works great on this device). The pull down menu looks good but could use a bit more in the way of customizability, notifications are a bit intrusive on the smaller screen but the smaller notifications option fixes that pretty well in exchange for needing to pull down the notification shade for quick access. Some other small gripes are that the bar underneath the keyboard is unable to be turned off is quite large relative to the screen height and in the activities view the app icons are above the apps which makes things like locking apps a bit difficult one handed.
Overall
This phone is definitely a purchase I don't regret, all the issues I've had thus far are definitely fixable through updates. I haven't had any of the hardware issues I've heard others mention like rattly volume buttons. Hopefully it does well enough for Asus to consider giving it longer support and the attention it needs to get its minor current issues fixed, or at least well enough to get decent support for third party roms. The price even importing the device from HK to Canada is very competitive for what you get. If there as any benchmarks people want me to run or questions they have about the device I'll keep an eye on the responses. Also if anyone has fixes for the issues mentioned I'm all ears (palm rejection, media control, etc...)
Thank you for the nice review.
I'm still waiting for my piece.
I want to ask you, since you are using 3rd launcher, I wonder if you are using gestures or navigation bar?
Purchased from mi4canada, came quick via DHL from HK and at a good price by Canadian import standards. It's unclear when the device will officially make its way to Canada, the zenfone 8 took a long while.
efkosk said:
Thank you for the nice review.
I'm still waiting for my piece.
I want to ask you, since you are using 3rd launcher, I wonder if you are using gestures or navigation bar?
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I'm using gestures, they work well with 3rt party launchers. Can't get rid of the bean at the bottom but it's easy to ignore.
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I'm using gestures, they work well with 3rt party launchers. Can't get rid of the bean at the bottom but it's easy to ignore.
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So my hope for Nova Launcher lives on! There was a glitch on all new mobile phones since A11. It only worked like a miracle on a couple of phones. I'm glad that Zenfone is one of them. Another reason for even greater joy.
efkosk said:
So my hope for Nova Launcher lives on! There was a glitch on all new mobile phones since A11. It only worked like a miracle on a couple of phones. I'm glad that Zenfone is one of them. Another reason for even greater joy.
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Never tried Nova, I'll install it and see, 1 min.
Update: gestures work fine
Nexr0n said:
Never tried Nova, I'll install it and see, 1 min.
Update: gestures work fine
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no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
efkosk said:
no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
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Not that i see at a cursory look, although I'm unfamiliar with the glitch so i don't know exactly what to look for. Best i can tell it works like it should.
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Not that i see at a cursory look, although I'm unfamiliar with the glitch so i don't know exactly what to look for. Best i can tell it works like it should.
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Thank you very much for your effort and time!
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no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
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Just wanted to add from my experience. I've been using nova launcher prime since I got the phone (over a week ago). And I have noticed that rarley but sometimes when you press the home button or unlock the screen you will get a blank screen showing only the wallpaper and only after you press the home button for a second time will the home screen actually load.
FYI I am using the navigation bar (buttons) and not the gesture one (I just hate the incompatibility with a lot of swipe supported apps e.g. Gmail, Solid Explorer etc ) so take it with a grain of salt if you use gesture you might not encounter this problem.
I have also encountered some other minor bugs but overall I am very pleased with the phone coming from my Galaxy S10.
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Like on other phones when using third-party launchers there is definitely a slight delay (a second or so) when using the home gesture until the launcher becomes responsive and starts accepting input.
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Like on other phones when using third-party launchers there is definitely a slight delay (a second or so) when using the home gesture until the launcher becomes responsive and starts accepting input.
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Haven't experienced this issue with Niagra after over a week of use now (or on previous phones I've put it on), may be an issue with your launcher. A second delay would be very noticable.
Cheers for the review - very helpful as am considering getting one.
Looking around at the benchmarks from different reviews, the scores vary quite a bit. It looks like it depends on which performance mode it's in - high performance mode vs dynamic mode, and according to Anandtech the Zenfone 8's performance would also change depending on which refresh rate you had it in. But many reviewers haven't said what mode or refresh rate they've been using.
Could you perhaps run the Jetstream 2.0 benchmark (opens and runs in the website) and/or PCMark Work 3.0 (play store) in dynamic performance mode? In 120hz would be fantastic or in 60hz would still be good either.
It's a bit of pain and would take your time so perfectly understandable if you don't want to, so would like to say thanks for the review anyway!
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All of these on 120Hz, no performance modes enabled (manually disabled for pcmark which triggered an automatic one)
Jetstream 2: 128.004
Pcmark work 3.0: 16371
Geekbench 5: 1294/4075
Dew,
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All of these on 120Hz, no performance modes enabled (manually disabled for pcmark which triggered an automatic one)
Jetstream 2: 128.004
Pcmark work 3.0: 16371
Geekbench 5: 1294/4075
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Thank you very much for doing all those. It's really appreciated.
The non-performance mode isn't reducing the performance by much at all. That settles it for me then, the Anandtech review of the 8 put me off, but it seems tsmc 4nm has allowed good performance and decent battery life, so the 9 it is.
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The old known bug is sadly also present on this phone using gesture navigation.
Sadly the standard launcher is no substitute for Nova, so pick the lesser evil
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The old known bug is sadly also present on this phone using gesture navigation.
Sadly the standard launcher is no substitute for Nova, so pick the lesser evil
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Well thank you.
Can you try the solution via tasker? (I still don't have a mobile phone at home)
I managed to use the Nova launcher on the Pppo find N thanks to the Tasker app and this instruction:
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Some lucky ones who have already received it could kindly try nova launche? I am especially interested in the transition between the external and internal screen portrait to landacape. Thank you in advance 😁😁
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There’s a lot to like about the way the Zenfone 9 looks. The obvious starting place is the size – thanks to using a small 5.9in display this is a small phone by modern standards, and at 169g it’s also impressively lightweight.
At 9.1mm thick it’s not the thinnest phone around, but you’d certainly not call it chunky, and that very slight extra thickness feels irrelevant once you factor in how compact the phone is overall.
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efkosk said:
Well thank you.
Can you try the solution via tasker? (I still don't have a mobile phone at home)
I managed to use the Nova launcher on the Pppo find N thanks to the Tasker app and this instruction:
Nova Launcher
Some lucky ones who have already received it could kindly try nova launche? I am especially interested in the transition between the external and internal screen portrait to landacape. Thank you in advance 😁😁
forum.xda-developers.com
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Sadly didn't work either. But from what I've read it's Google's fault and may have been fixed with A13, so maybe there's hope for the Z9 too