[Q] Back plate bulge - Sony Xperia M4 Aqua

Hi! Does your device have a *slight* bulge on the back plate near the camera area? On my phone, above the SD card port and above the SIM card port, the back plate is just a little bit bulging. I assume that this is due to 2 factors: a) the phone gets hot and the glue gets soft; b) the heated internals swell a bit and therefore the backplate will be lifted.
Similar problem with Z series phones causes frame bending (because aluminium frame in this aspect is inferior to plastic frame) and I think this is also the cause for the well known back-plate or display cracking for Z phones. That leads me to another question - has your M4 display cracked "by itself"?
Admin, please forgive if in the wrong forum, please move it to the correct one if necessary.

I have the same bulging backup.

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[Q] HD2 - Cannot remove housing

Hi,
I recently purchased a HD2 on eBay. It was supposed to come immaculate but unfortunately there are dents on almost all corners. Rest if perfect.
I saw on eBay some chinese sellers selling new housing + battery covers for ~25 USD. So why not replacing the housing then? I decided to give it a try.
Well I have to say that it really did not work like in the videos I saw on youtube. I removed the 4 screws under the battery cover, gently pressed the back of the LCM outward but it really refused to pop out (no even half an inch). I discarded the pry tool (a very thine credit card actually) and even tried using a suction cup on the digitizer to pull it backwards but same problem. It's like the LCM/chassis was glued on the bezel. Phone has never been disassembled before (white sticker and void screw were still both there).
This is strange because in all the videos I saw the LCM/middle chassis was clearly not glued on the bezel. It immediately popped out a bit then you could start prying (and praying!). Ok I know that in those videos usually the phone has already been disassembled before so other attempts require less force to do it again for the recording.
My questions now to all the people who managed to do this. Did this require so much force? Is there a change and is HTC now glueing this part the LCM/middle chassis to the bezel? Any suggestion? Where is for you the best place to insert the pry tool when you start?
Thanks and regards,
Try flexing the plastic bezel above the earphone outwards a little while applying slight pressure to the sticker area on the back. There're two notches above which locks the frame to the pcb.
Hi,
Thanks for your help.
I will try that later.
I guess I might need to find a better pry tool.
BR.
Ok I managed to do it.
This required clearly some force on the pry tool (actually I used two plastic cards : a very thin and flexible one than a credit card). I started the operation above the earphone area.
Applying pressure on the sticker area was stresfull because the LCD immediately reacted to the pressure (hence a risk to break it or damage it). Best was to put two fingers on the sticker area to help the LCM module to pop out but with (almost) no pressure.
I had a doubt and now that I managed to remove the housing it's gone. The antennas (those white stuff you see in both top corners and at the bottom) are glued to the housing.
I prefer to spend a few more bucks to take a housing which has those antennas already in.
BR.
i had a similar frustrating experience to yours in trying to snap the back off the chassis on my hd2 which had a fingerprint on the *inside* of the camera cover glass which i needed to open it to get at.
it sure looks easy in that HTC disassembly video on youtube but the tech there is using a sort of plastic hooked tool for the job, which i didn't have, so i used my thumbnail instead in the same place (the upper left corner, looking at the phone from the front) and it took me a good 20 minutes of applying what seemed like unreasonable pressure to my touchscreen and nearly tearing my nail off to get it to pop out.
those snap-tabs the electronics manufacturers use to hold cases together -- even when they also have screws to do the job -- are one of my all-time pet hates. i usually end up breaking them off.
I will be doing the same thing soon. So the housing you removed has antennas glued to it ?. Thanks for that, I will try get new housing with antenna together if possible.
I replaced my screen a while back and can confirm the main body of the hd2 is glued to the sides of the chassis.
It does come out but with a lot of force but pry the glue lose around the whole chassis first by sliding a thin card right ot the bottom of the case and slowlyu move and pry it upwards with 2 cards one on the top and other on the right after you losend the glue. the top has the wifi adapter n that so be careful bottom has usb so mite break.
honestly i would say don't bother replacing it and just get a gel case or something to hide the damage. there's a high chance of messing the digitizer up and would just cause you more trouble of taking the whole phone apart bit by bit and trust me the components are tiny so easily breakable especially the ribbon cables they decided to use. my honest opinion don't
fallenmonk said:
I will be doing the same thing soon. So the housing you removed has antennas glued to it ?. Thanks for that, I will try get new housing with antenna together if possible.
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yep they are white thin bits glued to the top portion of the case. wifi on left and phone on right if i remember. its been quite a while though since i took my old hd2 apart
Now that I know how to do this I will be easier next time.
Yes antennas are glued in the housing so best is to buy a housing which has antennas already in.
Important note : the antenna which is at the bottom of the housing exists in two different versions : EU or US so check with the seller which one he sells.
BR.
Top left : Amphenol-BT&Wifi-090820
Top right : Amphenol-GPS-090820
Bottom : Amphenol-EU-090828
If T-Mobiles US you need Amphenol-US
sirec said:
I replaced my screen a while back and can confirm the main body of the hd2 is glued to the sides of the chassis.
It does come out but with a lot of force but pry the glue lose around the whole chassis first by sliding a thin card right ot the bottom of the case and slowlyu move and pry it upwards with 2 cards one on the top and other on the right after you losend the glue. the top has the wifi adapter n that so be careful bottom has usb so mite break.
honestly i would say don't bother replacing it and just get a gel case or something to hide the damage. there's a high chance of messing the digitizer up and would just cause you more trouble of taking the whole phone apart bit by bit and trust me the components are tiny so easily breakable especially the ribbon cables they decided to use. my honest opinion don't
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i don't believe it's glued. as far as i can see the the case is held together with screws and plastic interlocking tabs. the trick is to get the latter to unclip.
No glue indeed just notches locking the LCM module to the bezel
Ok case closed
I got my new housing and the replacement went fine. For those who could be interrested I bought it on ebay from the seller forceviewer_uk in China. Everything went perfect so I can recommend this guy.

[Q] Back Cover ST17i question (misc items purposes)

Hiya,
if this is posted on the wrong location, please assist to move the post. I am not sure where to post.
I gotten myself an unit ST17i online recently, everything is working well, except the back cover missing some items (Rubber seal for the usb and audio port) =( and also the following which i am unsure, which is why i am asking here,
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(1st post so cannot put up a link)
Looking at the back cover (on the right),
I would like the know what is the rectangle with semicircle thing on the center of the cover? (looks kind of like a P also)
is that some sort of block? (water? radiation? etc?)
Would be great to get a reply:good:
Thanks =)
It is sort of key which ensures the back cover and middle cover is fit snuggly.
Without the flaps for USB/Audio , the device loses it's water resistance.
This is a hell of a device . Super resistant to impacts and what not !!
karandpr said:
It is sort of key which ensures the back cover and middle cover is fit snuggly.
Without the flaps for USB/Audio , the device loses it's water resistance.
This is a hell of a device . Super resistant to impacts and what not !!
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Yea thats the reason why i got it in the 1st place.
trying to get the clips and seals for the usb and audio now.
Other than that this device performs as expected and the battery life is relatively good
Thou the camera is slightly a little of a downer compared to my Z3C =s

Xperia Z3 camera glass cover issue

Hi there sirs.
i have a problem with my z3. you see i tried to dip it down in the water, after that i noticed that there was a moist build up on the lens behind. Panicked, i tried to remove it using a lighter but very gently and quite a distance with the camera. i noticed that the moist did disappeared but came back again, though it was just immediate heating. so I decided to heat it longer than before, unfortunately i did not know that it was plastic because i thought it was a glass same with the whole back. now, the cover is somehow deformed, you can see that its not completely flat and smooth and there are some smudges inside. i was wondering since i heated that part, is the problem coming from the cover or the camera itself because everytime i take a photo it's having a hard time auto focusing, pictures are a little blurry and somehow like over exposed. i already changed the settings but still no luck.
I just need to know in your opinion, should i have the cover replaced or the camera itself is the one having the problem??
A good answer is highly appreciated sir.
This is the Z3v board for Verizon specific models. You may want to ask your question at the Z3 boards.
It's fairly well known that moisture issues are usually best remedied by a slower approach, such as opening the ports and placing the wet phone in a sealed container of rice (which absorbs water readily).
My guess is that you may have slightly melted one of the lenses inside the camera if they are composite. Another possibility is that the plastic or rubber that separates the lenses was distorted, causing a permanent misalignment of necessary for proper focal distance. Yet another possibility is that the heat could've altered a lens coating, like the UV coating, for example.
The autofocus uses contrast and line definition software to work. If the camera ccd sensor can't "see" clearly to get a fix on something, the lens will just keep trying to focus in and out but never get anywhere. It'll likely eat battery quickly, and overheat.
At any rate, you've probably done irreparable damaged to your camera unit.
You just need to change the battery cover. Most likely the back cover melted onto the camera sensor leaving it with no room to move to focus properly.

Xperia X Ultra Screen not working due to slight crack

Hey guys.. I know this z ultra thread is almost dead and i might not get help, but i am gonna give it a try anyway.
So the story is.. last year i kept my xperia z ultra in my laptop bag and after half an hour when i checked the screen had a little line(crack) in the middle of the screen from one end to the other.
The phone turns on. I can see the display but it doesnt recognise my touches. and it randomly keeps on launching apps and touching screen here and there.
I would like to ask what exactly went wrong here.
some of my friends had this phone and their's were working even after cracked screens.
Can i replace the screen? and is it worth spending on this phone now?
iamvashisht said:
Hey guys.. I know this z ultra thread is almost dead and i might not get help, but i am gonna give it a try anyway.
So the story is.. last year i kept my xperia z ultra in my laptop bag and after half an hour when i checked the screen had a little line(crack) in the middle of the screen from one end to the other.
The phone turns on. I can see the display but it doesnt recognise my touches. and it randomly keeps on launching apps and touching screen here and there.
I would like to ask what exactly went wrong here.
some of my friends had this phone and their's were working even after cracked screens.
Can i replace the screen? and is it worth spending on this phone now?
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I had the same thing happen to me over 2 years ago. I finally got around to fixing it, because I was weary of bad LCD screens and I wanted to do it on the cheap.
I bought one from AliExpress and can confirm it is an OEM LCD panel. Only $36. Arrived in 3 weeks and it works like it did before, minus the waterproofing of course. In fact, this seller is all about OEM, good place for other devices as well.
Here is the link (I can't post links right now so it needs to be copied): goo.gl/et1vd6
I'd say it's worth it. It makes for a good backup phone and mini tablet for when you don't want to bring a tablet.
lilracerboi said:
I had the same thing happen to me over 2 years ago. I finally got around to fixing it, because I was weary of bad LCD screens and I wanted to do it on the cheap.
I bought one from AliExpress and can confirm it is an OEM LCD panel. Only $36. Arrived in 3 weeks and it works like it did before, minus the waterproofing of course. In fact, this seller is all about OEM, good place for other devices as well.
Here is the link (I can't post links right now so it needs to be copied): goo.gl/et1vd6
I'd say it's worth it. It makes for a good backup phone and mini tablet for when you don't want to bring a tablet.
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WOW that is cheap! To bad its not available anymore..
If I buy a new phone and this is no longer my primary phone I might change the screen and frame!
My chassis is cracked in half both at the sim slot due to its being so thin there and at the ear plug.
And my usb port is is not working cause of pin 1 that came loose that I soldered once but it came loose again so I ordered a new connector to be replaced completely.
The pins has started to move around due to wear in the plastic inside the connector so when I connect a usb cable it will tweak the pin back and forth until it breaks loose of the solder point.
And my earplug needs to be replaced due to 3.5mm plug comes out to easy but thats easy.
I have a question. How did you remove the battery?
I probably need to flip the motherboard upside down for the usb port that requires the battery to come out first.
I tried to break the glue underneath but the battery started to deform and bend just slightly and I'm worried the battery might burst into flames.
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WOW that is cheap! To bad its not available anymore..
If I buy a new phone and this is no longer my primary phone I might change the screen and frame!
My chassis is cracked in half both at the sim slot due to its being so thin there and at the ear plug.
And my usb port is is not working cause of pin 1 that came loose that I soldered once but it came loose again so I ordered a new connector to be replaced completely.
The pins has started to move around due to wear in the plastic inside the connector so when I connect a usb cable it will tweak the pin back and forth until it breaks loose of the solder point.
And my earplug needs to be replaced due to 3.5mm plug comes out to easy but thats easy.
I have a question. How did you remove the battery?
I probably need to flip the motherboard upside down for the usb port that requires the battery to come out first.
I tried to break the glue underneath but the battery started to deform and bend just slightly and I'm worried the battery might burst into flames.
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Man, your Ultra has gone through a lot!
Dang, didn't think they'd go out of stock. Pretty much the only online seller I trusted, because they compare OEM displays with fakes.
As for the battery, I don't remember how I got it out. I took it apart over a year ago when I bought a non-OEM display, so the adhesive was already loose. If you're in a situation where the screen is not working, you could just heat up the front to take the screen off and heat the body where the battery is, that way you're not putting heat directly on the battery.
Just be careful about the connector, especially if it's still plugged in.
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WOW that is cheap! To bad its not available anymore..
I have a question. How did you remove the battery?
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If it's Z Ultra we are talking about - you unscrew 4 screws on each corner and pry battery from the right side with a plastic tool. It has two adhesive strips on both left and right side.
Though you don't need to take the battery out if you want to replace the screen, the connectors are at the bottom and accesible with just the metal cover removal.
By the way the reason why touch stops working the moment your screen cracks is because the capacitive layer is integrated into the glass, and when it breaks the connection is severed and no longer working. It is a shame, and the glass on this particular phone is very fragile, I suggest putting a tempered glass protector on it, so far mine holds up fine with it.
If you don't want to go thru hassle of repairing it and looking for a new device: the Z5 or XZ premium I think are best options of the sony side as the XA Ultra gives midrange experience at best.
On the same screen size id give S8+ or Note 8 a shot, they look promising.
IGnoTon said:
If it's Z Ultra we are talking about - you unscrew 4 screws on each corner and pry battery from the right side with a plastic tool. It has two adhesive strips on both left and right side.
Though you don't need to take the battery out if you want to replace the screen, the connectors are at the bottom and accesible with just the metal cover removal.
By the way the reason why touch stops working the moment your screen cracks is because the capacitive layer is integrated into the glass, and when it breaks the connection is severed and no longer working. It is a shame, and the glass on this particular phone is very fragile, I suggest putting a tempered glass protector on it, so far mine holds up fine with it.
If you don't want to go thru hassle of repairing it and looking for a new device: the Z5 or XZ premium I think are best options of the sony side as the XA Ultra gives midrange experience at best.
On the same screen size id give S8+ or Note 8 a shot, they look promising.
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Thank you. I had trouble locating where the glue strips are so I kind of felt my way where there was something sticky but didn't make much progress.
I got one corner out but then I gave up.
Since a few years I use tempered glass back and front. They are a lifesaver! Not very cheap but worth every penny.
I'm not sure if I'm going to take my phone apart for the tenth time or so..its very fiddly to solder this tiny usb connector.
Atm i'm using the magnetic cable and a phone case so it stays in place but I'm working on a "workaround" with my old battery case with two 18awg cables soldered to the dock pins (cause I hit current limit with thinner awg) and ordered a dip to micro usb board to solder these cables onto.
So the case only contains a strait path from the usb port to the dock connector on the battery case.
The idea is If the port brakes I ware out the dip board instead of the internal usb port when charging.
Easy maintance and low cost of replacement parts. Ten dip boards for 1 usd vs 2 usd for three internal usb ports.
And I don't have to worry about the magnetic dock cable coming loose all the time.
I started to look for a new device a month ago. Its showing its age.
I'll continue writing in the other thread..so we don't go too off topic.
Fck
Sadly an extreme issue with Sony phones for many years. Along with the dreaded sudden death that effects so many models its more widespread then LG bootloop and Apple bendgate combined.... And somehow denied as a defect by Sony and unknown and disbelieve by many....
Both issues I think however are rectified since 2017 I believe though.... Finally

Durability discussion

First off i'm not really sure where to post this because there is no durability section in real life reviews and i think this is more of a discussion than a question.
So what do you think of the durability? After watching this video i realized that this phone can benefit a lot from a case, since: the flash and color spectrum cover is plastic, the camera sticks out and the aluminum seems to be painted (at least in the pink version).
The aim of the thread would be to share experiences, findings (like exactly what kind of aluminium is used and is it painted or naturally colored) and maybe even guides that are durability related (like removing scratches).
As i inspected my phone i noticed a lot of hairline scratches on the back, after only one week of use, luckily they are only visible from certain angles in good lighting. They don't rub off (like htc or iphone back scratches). My first reaction was to maybe try toothpaste, but i think i'll hold off as of now. If i end up trying anything i'll add it to this thread.
Dropped my xz1c accidently today down the spiral stairs from 3m descending slowly 20cm/steps 5 times then after 2m mark hit mirror glass wall in front and straigh fall straight to granite floor, microsd tray came out by 5mm, above the sdcard / sim card tray near screen plastic chip off, under the left corner there is a serious bending slightly upward, can see some opening under the bright light, likely not water tight anymore, but pressure sensor test says it is still water tight, not willing to risk it though.
Andrew0811 said:
Dropped my xz1c accidently today down the spiral stairs from 3m descending slowly 20cm/steps 5 times then after 2m mark hit mirror glass wall in front and straigh fall straight to granite floor, microsd tray came out by 5mm, above the sdcard / sim card tray near screen plastic chip off, under the left corner there is a serious bending slightly upward, can see some opening under the bright light, likely not water tight anymore, but pressure sensor test says it is still water tight, not willing to risk it though.
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Where can i access the pressure sensor test? I couldn't find it in the support app among the other tests.
Must use default sony dialer as default app then *#*#service#*#* or *#*#7378423#*#* somewhere inside, is not using default sony dialer now, ask again if can't find.

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