Hi,
I'm planning to upgrade from a Nexus 5 to a Sony Z5 compact.
But I've been in the Nexus family for a long time (Nexus 4, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 in that order. And I've used the Nexus 5 for almost 2 years). The Galaxy Nexus was the most comfortable smartphone I've used, and the Z5 compact is even smaller, with 65mm of width will be more comfortable.
I have some doubts about Xperia's Lollipop:
1) Could you tell If there are real differences between Google's Lollipop and Xperia's Lollipop?
2) Can I just "disable" all the Sony system apps, and install Google Keyboard, Calendar, Keep, Photos, (maybe Camera too, but don't know about that)?
3) And what about the stock Google's Phone and People/Contacts applications? (I assume these apps can't be replaced with the google ones, in that case, Is it possible to at least use Google contacts sync as default?).
And some other doubts about the phone itself:
4) I don't use screen protectors with Gorilla Glass 1/2/3 screens. But this new Sony phone includes "Chemical tempered glass + Anti-fingerprint coating", Is that a good glass?
Please consider that, I don't care about the scratches that are only seen when the screen is off and the sun is impacting directly on the screen.
If you had/have a Nexus and the opportunity try/have a Z3 compact or another similar Sony phone your experience will be appreciated!
Thanks!
I have a Nexus 5 and a Z3 Compact. While I prefer the "pure" Android experience of the N5, the Z3 Compact performs as well, if not better, has about three times the battery life, and fits better in my pocket. You will have Sony bloat, many (not all) of which can be disabled. There are a few Sony-specific icons (e.g. Settings) as well. You can use all the Google apps you want but you cannot replace the stock apps unless you root the phone. Overall, the Z3C is a great phone and I plan to purchase the Z5C as soon as it's available.
scottjb said:
I have a Nexus 5 and a Z3 Compact. While I prefer the "pure" Android experience of the N5, the Z3 Compact performs as well, if not better, has about three times the battery life, and fits better in my pocket. You will have Sony bloat, many (not all) of which can be disabled. There are a few Sony-specific icons (e.g. Settings) as well. You can use all the Google apps you want but you cannot replace the stock apps unless you root the phone. Overall, the Z3C is a great phone and I plan to purchase the Z5C as soon as it's available.
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Thanks for the reply! I'm planning to get a Z5c too.
The Nexus are getting pretty big for me. The best size in a Nexus was in the Galaxy Nexus (without tpu).
Also tried the original Moto X, that phone fits perfect in the hand.
Did you try "Google Camera" in your Z3C? Is it recommended as a default one?
I don't use Google Camera. Sony uses some proprietary stuff on its camera processing so to get the best results I use the Sony Camera app.
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I don't use Google Camera. Sony uses some proprietary stuff on its camera processing so to get the best results I use the Sony Camera app.
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does anyone know if you can still get custom sony camera stuff on other roms or is that tied to the sony stock rom?
edit this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-low-light-camera-performance-thanks-to-drm/
im also a n5 user thinking of getting z5c, only thing holding me back is its almost double the 2015 n5 price here in canada..
How is that possible? 32GB Nexus 5 rumoured to be $449 (so I'd guess about £399 for UK). Z5 Compact is £429 and 32GB. Not even close to double. What is going on in Canada?!
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supercakefish said:
How is that possible? 32GB Nexus 5 rumoured to be $449 (so I'd guess about £399 for UK). Z5 Compact is £429 and 32GB. Not even close to double. What is going on in Canada?!
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well I converted the z5c to over $850 cdn from the clove UK price...
new n5 is supposed to be $400 USD which is just over $500 cdn (might be lower $450 like the ps4 is here)
Canadian dollar is taking tanking right now.... and sony doesn't make our easy to buy their phones here...
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nolook said:
well I converted the z5c to over $850 cdn from the clove UK price...
new n5 is supposed to be $400 USD which is just over $500 cdn (might be lower $450 like the ps4 is here)
Canadian dollar is taking tanking right now.... and sony doesn't make our easy to buy their phones here...
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Well I would think that it would make much more sense to compare the Canadian price of the Sony phone vs the Canadian price of the Nexus. UK and mainland Europe gets completely screwed over in pricing but that's not the case for North America.
nolook said:
well I converted the z5c to over $850 cdn from the clove UK price...
new n5 is supposed to be $400 USD which is just over $500 cdn (might be lower $450 like the ps4 is here)
Canadian dollar is taking tanking right now.... and sony doesn't make our easy to buy their phones here...
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cant do that cause sony wont be officially be releasing the phone here....
The Z5C in Amazon.de costs about 550€ (preorder).
I think it's the best deal so far (in Europe).
To that price you shall rest European V.A.T. and taxes and convert from EUR to USD to get some "similar" price version of a USA's state that hasn't taxes.
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The best deal has to be clove.co.uk @ £430 including a pair of sony BT headphones. Even if you don't want the cans, they will go for £30 so think of it as a rebate. I was lucky enough to pre order my Z5C from them in the two hours it took for them to correct the price from £399 back to £430. I am assured that they are going to honour the deal. Win! This has ended my wait for the unicorn that is the saygus V2....
Should I cancel my Carphone Warehouse preorder and buy direct from Sony? Which has better customer service? There's only a £10 difference between them once postage cost is taken into account. So it's all about the customer service. Anyone share any good/bad experiences with these retailers?
Alternatively, read the above post.
zakiwashi said:
Alternatively, read the above post.
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I'm desperate to get it ASAP and both Sony and CPW will start deliveries on 29th September as opposed to the week after. I don't mind paying a little extra for the privilege of a week earlier delivery as I already have some decent Sony headphones that probably outclass the ones being bundled in by Clove.
I've got a Coral one on preorder currently but I can't decide whether I prefer the Yellow that's exclusive to the Sony store. It's hard to know what they really look like when the colours look different whether I'm looking at Sony's website or pictures taken by tech websites for hands-on previews.
Well, mine has been dispatched from clove. They honoured the price error so I have the phone and Sony headphones for £405. Bargain. Let's just hope it doesn't melt into a useless peice of electronics in my hand, as reported by many unscrupulous websites who seem to have all jumped on the bandwagon after one questionable video was released by one person in China. Great way to get YouTube hits...
zakiwashi said:
Well, mine has been dispatched from clove. They honoured the price error so I have the phone and Sony headphones for £405. Bargain. Let's just hope it doesn't melt into a useless peice of electronics in my hand, as reported by many unscrupulous websites who seem to have all jumped on the bandwagon after one questionable video was released by one person in China. Great way to get YouTube hits...
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I have Z5 Compact. It runs cooler than my Nexus 5.
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thesebastian said:
Hi,
1) Could you tell If there are real differences between Google's Lollipop and Xperia's Lollipop?
Something Like SmallApp & Xperia Home as Launcher
Also some extra features like Call Motion in Setting & White-Balance & Xperia Theme...
2) Can I just "disable" all the Sony system apps, and install Google Keyboard, Calendar, Keep, Photos, (maybe Camera too, but don't know about that)?
YES
3) And what about the stock Google's Phone and People/Contacts applications? (I assume these apps can't be replaced with the google ones, in that case, Is it possible to at least use Google contacts sync as default?).
Yes when u set ur google account all data from ur account will sync to ur phone
4) I don't use screen protectors with Gorilla Glass 1/2/3 screens. But this new Sony phone includes "Chemical tempered glass + Anti-fingerprint coating", Is that a good glass?
Please consider that, I don't care about the scratches that are only seen when the screen is off and the sun is impacting directly on the screen.
Yes the Glasses & Display itself on Xperia devices are really premium materials
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:good:
Its around ten pounds for a glass screen protector. That's got to be worth investing in. Whether the screen is off or not, scratches are just plain upsetting. Its a damn sight easier to peel off the protector and put another on than replace the digitizer.
supercakefish said:
I have Z5 Compact. It runs cooler than my Nexus 5.
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Well I have just faffed about with some AR stuff on the camera and then shot some timelapse video and it got to about 40 deg C. Thats fairly hot by my reckoning. That was without my bumper case on. The device even felt it fair to warn me it was gonna get toasty.
Nexus doesn't have the AR stuff so unfortunately I can't compare but the 810 ran a few degrees cooler in 3DMark consistently compared to the 800. This was repeatable.
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I just seen this phone and I really can't believe the specs of the phone for the price of £260 (16Gb) £290 (64gb).
It's not waterproof or dustproof but to be honest I don't really care cos none of my phone was neither.
http://m.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/oneplus-one-1244307/review
We are talking about £300 cheaper phone with same specs. What do you think guys?
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It has no stereo speakers and it is 2 mms wider than the Z2. Also, the battery is compared to the Z2's battery quite small, especially if u regard the larger screen and the faster cpu (2,5Ghz vs 2,3Ghz).
PiskopatYazar said:
I just seen this phone and I really can't believe the specs of the phone for the price of £260 (16Gb) £290 (64gb).
It's not waterproof or dustproof but to be honest I don't really care cos none of my phone was neither.
http://m.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/oneplus-one-1244307/review
We are talking about £300 cheaper phone with same specs. What do you think guys?
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Atm, it is only available through competitions and invite only.
"No microSD slot"
No thanks then!
fatguy666 said:
"No microSD slot"
No thanks then!
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64GB is only £40 extra. We are talking about £200 extra if you wanna buy apple phone with 64gb.
On review the guy mentioned that as a con as well if you are not using so much space like me it's not a problem.
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mujj said:
Atm, it is only available through competitions and invite only.
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What do you mean? Everybody can purchase the phone.
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PiskopatYazar said:
What do you mean? Everybody can purchase the phone.
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On the 25th only available with invite only + competitions then Available to everyone in August.
& the Oneplus is longer than the Note 3..
It's actually £269 for the 64GB version & £229 for the 16GB version
Publicglutton said:
On the 25th only available with invite only + competitions then Available to everyone in August.
& the Oneplus is longer than the Note 3..
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Note 3 is 5.7 inch this one is 5.5 it's not longer.
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PiskopatYazar said:
Note 3 is 5.7 inch this one is 5.5 it's not longer.
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YES it is here:-
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/On...id8603/size/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3/phones/7984
The One Plus One looks a bit tacky to me....I don't really like how the camera isn't flush with the body. And I prefer unibody.
Of course that price is awesome, but the size is ludicrous. Even the z2 is borderline size wise..
Unless Cupertino pulls something out of the bag this year (quite possible), xperia z2 is easily phone of the year for me.
paddylaz said:
The One Plus One looks a bit tacky to me....I don't really like how the camera isn't flush with the body. And I prefer unibody.
Of course that price is awesome, but the size is ludicrous. Even the z2 is borderline size wise..
Unless Cupertino pulls something out of the bag this year (quite possible), xperia z2 is easily phone of the year for me.
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I believe this is good for people with limited budget.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...2,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3/phones/8603,8323,7984
Only cons aganist z2 is, not water or dust proof, wee bit smaller battery, no micro sim card slot and also glass body.
3100 mhz battery vs 3200 mhz not a big deal at all. that battery will last you whole day if you are not playing with your phone all the time.
external micro sim problem can be solved by paying £40 extra and get the 64gb version.
glass body for me is a con if you drop your phone it shatters and you cant use it.
if the z2 price down to £400 in august I can go for it otherwise will think about it
paddylaz said:
The One Plus One looks a bit tacky to me....I don't really like how the camera isn't flush with the body. And I prefer unibody.
Of course that price is awesome, but the size is ludicrous. Even the z2 is borderline size wise..
Unless Cupertino pulls something out of the bag this year (quite possible), xperia z2 is easily phone of the year for me.
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No hope for the LG G3?
Specs are one thing, but how it all performs is still an unknown. Could be super amazing or just good value.
I have used Cyanmod in my Samsung Galaxy note 2 it is supercool ROM and if you have those specs with that ROM it can fly you up to the sky. I was checking the price actually it doesnt even cost £249 or £299 it cost only £178 for 16gb £209 for the 64GB this is a bargain.
I will definitely give it a go once it is released.
Founder of the company is the ex vice president of Oppo. Oppo find 7a has got similar features but on system chip, memory and ram oneplus one beats it. and Oppo find 7a cost 400 euro which is £350.
This phone might sweep the market off.
If you check the link below you will see the OFFICIAL pricing which is an image taken from the Oneplus one invitation conference at 7:30 am this morning in beijing.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-One-release-date-and-price-unveiled_id55452
Still great prices though
OnePlus is doing a good thing by putting price pressure on the larger OEMs.
But looking at the differences with the Z2:
1. No IPxx certification.
2. Lesser camera
3. No MicroSD
4. Marginally smaller battery
5. Not sure how Google Play (and services like Chromecast) will work on their ROM
6. Not sure about device reliability and support from OnePlus
I would still rather pay a bit more for the Z2. But this is my own preference.
I think the 1+1 might have an IP cert because in their promo video it shows a bunch of phones being sprayed with water. This probably means the cert isn't as good as the Z2's IPX8 and I haven't seen what their official cert is (if indeed it exists at all), but they seem to be promoting it as at least water resistant.
Personally, the Z2 is about as large as I can handle, and the 1+1 is even larger and made by an unknown company, so I am sticking with the Z2.
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I think the 1+1 might have an IP cert because in their promo video it shows a bunch of phones being sprayed with water. This probably means the cert isn't as good as the Z2's IPX8 and I haven't seen what their official cert is (if indeed it exists at all), but they seem to be promoting it as at least water resistant.
Personally, the Z2 is about as large as I can handle, and the 1+1 is even larger and made by an unknown company, so I am sticking with the Z2.
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The video you're referring to is quite misleading without any context. The clip may just be showing an oleophobic coating deposition process.
Publicglutton said:
If you check the link below you will see the OFFICIAL pricing which is an image taken from the Oneplus one invitation conference at 7:30 am this morning in beijing.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-One-release-date-and-price-unveiled_id55452
Still great prices though
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I would order from america then it is way a lot cheaper if you buy from there.
Lolento said:
The video you're referring to is quite misleading without any context. The clip may just be showing an oleophobic coating deposition process.
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yeah Im not too sure about water resistant or proof future as well. Everything will be more clear after the conference today.
I currently rock an LG G3 and while I love the screen and phone model, I can't stand the software at all, it is laggy and horrible, I've compared it to a Z Ultra via youtube video and I'm loving the look of the phone already!
Z Ultra's are currently retailing for £250 brand new and I'm ready to purchase, but a genuine question, what are the massive cons of owning the phone and is it still worth it at this price?
titchyyyy said:
I currently rock an LG G3 and while I love the screen and phone model, I can't stand the software at all, it is laggy and horrible, I've compared it to a Z Ultra via youtube video and I'm loving the look of the phone already!
Z Ultra's are currently retailing for £250 brand new and I'm ready to purchase, but a genuine question, what are the massive cons of owning the phone and is it still worth it at this price?
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First it is smoothest device i tried...
Cons:
As you said it is MASSIVE
Staying on stock Xperia ROM there is poor (none for 4.4.4) custom kernel choice
Did I said MASSIVE :silly:
Rest you can tell from specs
titchyyyy said:
I currently rock an LG G3 and while I love the screen and phone model, I can't stand the software at all, it is laggy and horrible, I've compared it to a Z Ultra via youtube video and I'm loving the look of the phone already!
Z Ultra's are currently retailing for £250 brand new and I'm ready to purchase, but a genuine question, what are the massive cons of owning the phone and is it still worth it at this price?
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I'm surprised the G3 is laggy, but it may be to do with the high res screen.
The Z ultra is definitely not laggy, and is the best phone i've owned. I came from an LG phone (Optimus 4X HD) and hated LG's skinning of Android. Sony's efforts are far more impressive and although I've tried the GPE Rom (Stock Android) I came back to Sony's firmware within a day.
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I'm surprised the G3 is laggy, but it may be to do with the high res screen.
The Z ultra is definitely not laggy, and is the best phone i've owned. I came from an LG phone (Optimus 4X HD) and hated LG's skinning of Android. Sony's efforts are far more impressive and although I've tried the GPE Rom (Stock Android) I came back to Sony's firmware within a day.
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Lets just say, the Galaxy S4 was smoother than my G3, I had to do A LOT of tweeking to get the G3 to be usable. Thanks for the replies, I've gone ahead and ordered one (White version at £216 brand new) and can't wait to get it
titchyyyy said:
Lets just say, the Galaxy S4 was smoother than my G3, I had to do A LOT of tweeking to get the G3 to be usable. Thanks for the replies, I've gone ahead and ordered one (White version at £216 brand new) and can't wait to get it
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Do you mind telling me where you got it at that price? Everywhere seems to be around £245.
patp said:
Do you mind telling me where you got it at that price? Everywhere seems to be around £245.
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I find it mental that you can even get this phone for £245!
It's definitely the best value for money phone out there at the moment that you can buy without an invite.
Been there, saw all phones, and got the ultra!
GET THE ULTRA TO ROCK ON!
very, very worth for me, as of now cant see any competitor to our XZU, 6.4" screen, thin, metal & glass :good::good:
Where are you guys finding it for so cheap?
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I bought my original Z Ultra for £549 at the beginning of last year and I loved the phone back then paired with the Smartwatch 2. I sold it back then but have just bought another brand new black one for £250, I use this as a tablet rather than a phone, I don't have the Smartwatch 2 this time.
I must admit that having been through a few phones since I sold it I'm a little disappointed with the KitKat firmware on my new Z Ultra, the display feels a little dim at 100% brightness but overall I think it's amazing value for money and great for watching Sky Go. I just love the sheer size of the phone but it does require a huge pocket to carry it around in.
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...the display feels a little dim at 100% brightness but overall I think it's amazing value for money...
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There are atleast 2 different LCD panels that have been used. One has better contrast.
I just got the phone from amazon and I got it cheap from warehouse deals. First impressions, amaizing....
It was the cheapest most powerful device I found. I bought it for 250€ Not bad, considering what it offers
Its size isnt bothering me, I fear for the possibility of it breaking,
I've truly been debating about buying this, Z Ultra GPE, since it came out. Now that it can be purchased on the cheap it's making it harder not to. My main concern is; Android L? Will Google and Sony make the update available for the Z Ultra? I have a Nexus 5 (nothing wrong with it) but I've always wanted a phablet.Then again the next Nexus could be either 5.2-.9 inches so that could ease my phablet want... IDK, what do yous peoples thinks?
blueether said:
There are atleast 2 different LCD panels that have been used. One has better contrast.
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On what do you base this ? (references, links, bill of materials list ?)
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On what do you base this ? (references, links, bill of materials list ?)
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There are a few threads on this:
1
2 (pages 6 and 7)
3
Among people who have seen both, it seems contentious which of the two is found to be the best, so I say, be happy with whichever you get. :good:
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On what do you base this ? (references, links, bill of materials list ?)
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grep of LCD during boot - I don't just spout random crap
do a search on here there is a thread
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I don't just spout random crap
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Never said that you did, just asking for some facts.
(Example: Specific part numbers indicating that 2 different screens have been used)
Go check up huawei mate 2
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Z Ultra or One Max
I want to buy a New phablet
Which is Better Guys
the Z Ultra ( Snapdragon 800 Processor, and a Camera with no Flash)
or the One Max ... ( Snapdragon 600 Processor , and a camera with a flash)
Please Help
I really want the Z Ultra but the TFT screen and the No Flash is letting me down
is it worth buying now or Not
matout7 said:
I want to buy a New phablet
Which is Better Guys
the Z Ultra ( Snapdragon 800 Processor, and a Camera with no Flash)
or the One Max ... ( Snapdragon 600 Processor , and a camera with a flash)
Please Help
I really want the Z Ultra but the TFT screen and the No Flash is letting me down
is it worth buying now or Not
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I'd say the Z Ultra, excellent build quality and a better processor not to mention these days they go for real cheap.
Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as the Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes the price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with just AUD350 the phone has become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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I'm thinking the same as yourself, as it is becoming more affordable here in the US as well.
Seen it as inexpensive as $250, either new or gently used.
Only negative is no LED for flash, which means no light for emergency use.
I'm looking for an inexpensive LTE mobile phone, this MIGHT BE IT.
Another negative; no removable battery.
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If you have no real use for a camera, then yes this phone is still a beast.
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”screen flashlight ” in the Google play store works pretty well on our Z ultra.
I've had mine for about a year now, and it's still a very powerful device. You won't have any issues with running apps and games. Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
Screen is still very good, battery life is (still) good, camera is not great, and performance is top notch. It was worth it to me when I paid $1000 for it a year ago, and it's definitely worth it now.
Check out the reviews and stuff on YouTube or something if you're still not sure.
I was afraid at first i thought it will be too big. But now i can imagine myself having smaller Screen even samsung Note seems small now, Too small.
As it has been said, if don't care for the Camera much Z Ultra is the Best.
raundown said:
Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is now over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes it to price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with AUD350 the phone has just become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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Depends on how you look at it. If performance is the metric, you won't be disappointed. if you use camera extensively, well look elsewhere. and the last one, the battery life. It's quite good but if you compare with devices nowadays, there are better alternative. I'd say wait for the Z3X (if ever) in about a month. If it doesn't come up, then i can imagine the Z Ultra will be cheaper along the way.
Thank you all for your inputs!
I personally do not use mobile cameras for artistic purposes. I already have a Dslr so the camera is only for note-taking or public transport schedule. I think I just want a phone that is slightly faster than my HTC M7. It's true that there are better performers out there since this is a year old phone but any faster CPU than a Z Ultra has little to do with my uses.
Also there isn't a mobile phone at the moment that is as massive as this. I love the idea that I could read books with it in my bed. The Galaxy Note Pro is too heavy to hold in the hand for a long period of time.
The only bummer is the speaker. I have been spoiled by the M7's speakers for a year plus, very little devices top its superb sound quality. It will be the only downgrade for me should I go for this phone.
H. E. Pennypacker said:
Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
Visa Declined said:
I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
18 months supposedly. The Z Ultra should receive L, but the Z3 and Z2 should get it first. I would guess at least a few months or more after L is released.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
However Ultra hasn't been selling as well as they'd like they have probably even given up on releasing a successor.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
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Im sure it will get L, but I personally don't think we should expect more.
Recently, got a Z Ultra (from a Mega 6.3). Don't regret it for the most part. Screen isn't the brightest in direct sunlight (not that the mega was that much better), Camera quality isn't as good as my mega imo, sound is lower (that my mega) I'm assuming because of the waterproofing, and kinda a fingerprint magnet. Other than that no complaints.
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Normally 18 months?. I would think the GPe will get L before the Sony ZU. it was months before we got 4.4, although we did get 4.4.4 very fast
Just bought a second hand for AU$300. This shady guy sold me one with overheat issue. The phone isn't even very hot but it just freezes on me and stuck in boot loop.
BOOT LOOPS, My Favorite Breakfast Cereal!
The reason may well be because of the fact the BEAST is having one of America's favorite breakfast cereals...Boot Loops! After several minutes of this heat is generated in the upper left corner around the camera area. Liken it to running around a track numerous times - it takes a toll on it/you physically.
I've read it on one of the threads several times over the months just after the XZU became available as a GPe. Many new users were trying to root, flash ROM's, and fix the partitions since they're different on the GPe's and their devices suffered the boot loops too.
Download Flashtool, run a TA Backup and then flash a stock .ftf if that's what your looking to do. Providing this device is not HOT. Why would one sell a BEAST of a device with a bad case of the boot loops to begin with? Better yet why on earth would you buy one in that condition? All kinds of flags would've/should've been raised - didn't you even question how it got that way or why it was in that state to begin with?
They have these bad boys are selling for $314.99 at http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-c6833-unlocked-lte-16gb-black-251963/ in the United States. Expansys sells internationally direct from the comfort of your own safe and legal hideout. THAT would've been a more prudent thing to do AND you would've gotten a warranty on top of it!
Just sayin'
Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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If you want to run different ROMs - get the international version. The GPe 4.4.4 and Lollipop is already ported so they are available.
The problem with the GPe is that it uses a different partition scheme making it unable to use ROMs for the rest of the crowd (C6802/6806-nonGPe/6833). I would therefore recommend a C6806 or C6833 depending on what bands (LTE) you want and need.
Because of the superior selection of ROMs including GPe, I would simply go for a C6833 unless you are absolutely sure that everything else than the GPe ROM is of no interest.
With the "Sony Edition" (C6833 et al) you have great options: Sony ROMs, GPe or AOSP/CM based ones in different flavors. I think this selection is reason enough to go for the Xperia rather than the GPe.
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Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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As they are in Italy I would not recommend the c6806 in either the Sony version or the GPe, get the c6833 (international). Sony's UI is very 'stock' android with very little bloat and packaged apps. As for battery life, expect 4 to 8 hours of screen on time depending on what you are doing. My GPe version on Lollipop has 5 days uptime, ~20% battery used and it says 13 days remaining on standby with the wifi on - no real use this week as I'm using my other phone.
thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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Just looking at your sig, I think we could be the same boat.
I had 4 years all with HTC phones ( HD2, Ruby, One) and I recently made a first move to Sony phone, this Z Ultra C6833 and have no regret, even one bit. I personally think Sony phone has great battery, very responsive touchscreen, premium quality hardware built etc...which on par with HTC at least, or better.
Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets. I didn't think about buying one, until I had one in my hands to try, and I was sold in 3 minutes. With the heavy dropped price on this Z Ultra these days, it's a steal, you'll be more than happy.
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Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets.
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
Here in italy its not as highly regarded as samsung or LG neither is HTC but i look at specs affidability and price over the usual consumer jargon.. im sure ill be pleased with this device!!!
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
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I agree that Sony is still a big name of the game, what I mean was Sony deserves more than that. It could be one of top 3 players. Here in Canada Sony doesn't seem to do much comparing to other brands name. I wished I'd knew how good Sony phones was sooner. It's great to know that Sony phones are doing well in other countries.
I dont know if there is amazon in italy, but I bought mine for €260.- on amazon.
The alternative was the LG G2 for €300.-
If you really like to use big phones, go for it. I actually wanted a big phone and really like sony Z line design of phones, not to mention the extremely appealing price. Snapdragon 800 and a huge phone for €260? It was a no brainer for me.
Not to mention the advantage of having a GPe Version, portable lolipop roms. Just in case you miss it, this phone has an IPS display, unlike the Z and Z1 of sony.
There are complaints though, so for those, you can find enough information. Personally, I am very satisfied.
just as an update i ordered the C6833 variant just now at 239 euro (im still rubbing my hands like monty burns!!) thanks to all for your input!!!
i'll look forward to sharing the z ultra sub section with you guys!!
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
asadkhanduhh said:
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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And getting ready for Z4 Ultra production. Yay!
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I haven't seen it for sale here in the US lately, as it was on sale here for Christmas ? .
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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Flaco05 said:
Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
A definite buy
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
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I have recently purchased Z Ultra after having a lot of comparison with other devices and I have no regret that I have bought this device. The price was a major factor.
The screen size is something It would take time for to adjust with(First time using a phone with such a form factor, all previous devices were around 4.5 inches)
The phone is butter smooth and no lag at all. Battery lasts around 2-2.5 days with moderate usage(Have stamina mode ON for the full time).
I will surely recommend to get a ZU.
Just got mine
As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
Thanks so that should be my next device, I have been waiting for a pass for One Plus, actualy was the very first one to get it when it was launched in India but didnt have the money to buy it now I tired waiting endlessly for it and have decided to go for ZU
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As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
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Expansys.com is now selling the Sony Xperia Z Ultra C6833 in Black & White for $259.99 while the Purple is priced at $274.99, respectively. These BEASTS may be approaching 2 years of market life but they're still relevant today as they were when they were first released.
That 6.4" screen powered by a Qualcomm 800 IS still worth buying as a daily driver, backup, or extremely portable tablet. Sony is showing is still committed to this device by updating to Android M - a fact well known by all. It also demonstrates Sony believes this BEAST is still a relevant. Earlier today Sony sent out email notifications that 14.5.A.0283 is rolling out and an update is available on PC Companion.
Hell I bought myself another daily driver with an Expansys 2 year warranty that covers EVERYTHING INCLUDING ACCIDENTS for $24.99.
This is a great buy until a similar device comes along, it handles 5.0.2 buttery smooth and am sure well enjoy the same user experience when Android M is released in a couple of months.
Thought I'd share the information with my fellow BEASTY BOYS & GIRLS!
I would second you on that. Mine is two years old in three months. And it still functions like the ...no. Wait. The Z ultra was not a race car at the release. It had many bugs. Many bugs related to the new Qualcomm S800 series.
Leme put it this way.
I would now compare this phone to the philosophy NASA has been going by. The hard- and software they use is often old but stable. My point is that large parts of the code has aged and been refined so there's not many bugs at this age and stage.
TODAY the z ultra is very stable and fast. I think the software wasn't ready when it was released. So I would reather buy this today. Then when I first got it.
I have to say. This is the first phone I had that is absolutely perfect.
Off topic:
NASA has been changing software lately so I can't tell exacly what they are using. Many units switched to scientific distro
Need + Use = $259.99 Sony Xperia Z Ultra
I have to wholeheartedly agree with all the bugs! And YES, I totally agree about buying it now as to when it was first released - but then again we wouldn't have had this GORGEOUS 6.4" Tri-Luminous display. I bought this for the form and function, can't say it's been perfect but as of June 15,2015 when I decided to order another XZU, then I'd say it's pretty damn close to a perfect device.
So much so that everything I've seen to date hasn't even sparked interest to even consider bailing on my XZU. Sometimes it can be a little awkward sizewise, sure, but generally this truly is a piece of art with it's 6.5 mm aluminum frame and its top notch omnibalance design. That's not taking it's performance and feature set into account.
I mean sure I'd love an 820 & 4GB's of onboard memory, maybe even 32GB'S RAM, but I'm able to add a 128GB miniSDXC Card, root my device, and have the support of devs like you. A new device would take time to establish decent developer support. For me it's about what it's already available and how much of a device I'm going to actually need and use for "X" amount of time.
For $259.99 methinks is a great buy when I add need + use for any device, but when you make it an Xperia Z Ultra - 'nuff said...you simply can't beat that kind of deal anywhere. That is until it gets even cheaper than it already is!
Purple is GONE!
Seems Expansys has run out of the Purple Sony Xperia Z Ultra's! They also you to list the amount the had on hand for the Black and White models but now it's a simple "in stock now" down from the regularly appearing 40.
Now is the time to grab one of the bad boys even if it's just for a nostalgic reason. Plus remember they're offering a 24 month warranty for $24.99!
This is what Expansys is saying about their 2 year warranty -
"Keep your devices safe and secure by purchasing the EXPANSYS Service Plan. Expand your coverage from 6 months to 18 months, and protect your device from mechanical and electrical failures. For a minimum investment, you can ensure the safety and security of your purchase for an additional 12 months. For complete terms and conditions of Expansys warranty services, please click here.
Notes:
*Extended Warranty must be purchased with device, and cannot be added once item has shipped.
*Extended Warranty cannot be refunded once item has shipped
*Extended Warranty cannot be applied to b-stock, refurbished, or open-box items"
Really at this price you cannot go wrong - I bought my first BEAST for $629.00.
Here's the link should anyone want to grab another one of our favorite devices - http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-c6833-unlocked-lte-16gb-white-251964/
ZU is selling in India at around Rs. 17000/- (~$260). I bought my second ZU two months ago after I broke screen on first one. Everyone said buy another phone but ZU is the greatest phone ever. I just love its display size. Now with new phone I got free Magnetic charger which is awesome and I don't need to open USB port.
I can emulate play Playstaion 1 and PSP games on it with graphics looking better than actual consoles. I feel so powerful with this device in my hand.
I have got screen replaced on old one (grey market for Rs. 5000/-) and gave to my wife with this cool back cover. :highfive:
I love the back cover, where did you purchase it?
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I love the back cover, where did you purchase it?
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Amazon
http://www.amazon.in/Premium-Design-Cover-Xperia-Ultra/dp/B00UL1GFIO/
Price today in India Rs. 13990/- (US$ 220)
http://www.flipkart.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra/p/itme7ydyvmsb37x7?q=Sony+Xperia+Z+Ultra