Hello hello XDA members just got my G5 yesterday and I noticed that it's encrypted already is anybody else's encrypted straight out the box? And though I do like to encrypt my phone I like to do it myself and I didn't see a way to unencrypt it, anyone?
mine's encrypted, i just assumed it was because i put a memory card in
Mine is encrypted as well...however I did boot up the device initially with my sd card installed.
http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/2...isk-encryption-mandatory-for-most-new-devices
The good thing is that they are using UFS for the on-board storage so the performance should be fine.
I came from the v10 I was rooted once I encrypted my device I couldn't get into recovery I wonder if that is playing into the rooting problem
T-Mo US. Also encrypted out of the box. Wow, no lag at all.
any way to remove this encryption? mine also is as such from fido in canada
bilalwiggles said:
any way to remove this encryption? mine also is as such from fido in canada
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Not without rooting it, which we can't do on our Canadian G5's. (yet?)
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which ROM you used?
On this method and without MAGLDR is formatted - a facility of the formatting from Windows.
This facility - after WP7, but not after blocking SD-cards.
does this work if the SD card was fully looked like in the Xboxmod/Yuki ROM?
dxdy said:
which ROM you used?
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I tried with HD2O, Pdaimatejam, cotulla's, XBMOD rom. and the result was almost the same.
kovalDN said:
On this method and without MAGLDR is formatted - a facility of the formatting from Windows.
This facility - after WP7, but not after blocking SD-cards.
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I didnt get your question mate. Can you be more clear...?
rwholden said:
does this work if the SD card was fully looked like in the Xboxmod/Yuki ROM?
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Yes it does. I tried with my 8 GB Samsung Class 4 Micro SD Card. Everytime I tried it worked. Let me know how it goes on your end...
ok,lets be clear on this because there is a lot of confusion over whats locked and what isnt.
a locked card if plugged in to a windows PC will displaying NOTHING in My computer, there will be an device in device manager tho, it is not possible to even see the card in most (all i am aware of) formatting programs including SDformatter
a card thats unlocked (but unusable) can be seen and edited in admin tools> computer management, you can format it in anything, all thats happened is that the filesystem info is unknown, windows is great for doing this itsself without the need of any further programs.
So to be clear, your saying that doing this will wipe the secure partition on the SD card there by wiping the key and deleting the encryption covering the whole device?
all the ROMs bar xbmods do not use a locked SD card so that can be fixed in windows, xbmods ROM can be unlocked but by default it is locked, this is the one that catches people out. If folk would actually read up on what they are doing they would know that you should unlock the SD card BEFORE flashing a new ROM if you previously had xbmods rom, if you forget to do that then simply flash the xbmod ROM back on to it and unlock it next time.
Its really very simple
ive just read your post again and your cards are not locked, plugging a Locked SD card in to a card read will give you absolutely no access to it at all other than being able to see it in device manager, whatever it is your doing, your card isnt locked, sorry.
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ok,lets be clear on this because there is a lot of confusion over whats locked and what isnt.
a locked card if plugged in to a windows PC will displaying NOTHING in My computer, there will be an device in device manager tho, it is not possible to even see the card in most (all i am aware of) formatting programs including SDformatter
a card thats unlocked (but unusable) can be seen and edited in admin tools> computer management, you can format it in anything, all thats happened is that the filesystem info is unknown, windows is great for doing this itsself without the need of any further programs.
So to be clear, your saying that doing this will wipe the secure partition on the SD card there by wiping the key and deleting the encryption covering the whole device?
all the ROMs bar xbmods do not use a locked SD card so that can be fixed in windows, xbmods ROM can be unlocked but by default it is locked, this is the one that catches people out. If folk would actually read up on what they are doing they would know that you should unlock the SD card BEFORE flashing a new ROM if you previously had xbmods rom, if you forget to do that then simply flash the xbmod ROM back on to it and unlock it next time.
Its really very simple
ive just read your post again and your cards are not locked, plugging a Locked SD card in to a card read will give you absolutely no access to it at all other than being able to see it in device manager, whatever it is your doing, your card isnt locked, sorry.
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When you clear the MBR on the SD via MAGLDR then it just destroys Table of partitions thus gives you the disk in the RAW format. Which you can format in WindowS. I have tried this method with XbMod rom without unlocking the card in the ROM.
PS: The key here is that, you have to clear the SD MBR(Master Boot Record) via MAGLDR prior to inserting the card in the PC. (Either by using the MASS STG method or the via CARD READER). Hope this clarifies the doubt...
Remove your guide man its embarrassing...
warriorvibhu said:
Remove your guide man its embarrassing...
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Obeyed.....
Thanks for being so harsh...
You with these ROM tried Your method?
[ROM] Back to the Future [XBmod-Yuki]
Sorry. As the guide has been embarrassing so I removed it.
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Sorry. As the guide has been embarrassing so I removed it.
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The time and effort you put into your guide is admirable and appreciated, but unfortunately, dazza9075 is correct about the locked cards.
This thread still is the best for those who do not want to reinstall the Back the Future ROM to unlock their SD cards, if one can find a Nokia phone or other listed device near at hand.
There are rumors the new MAGDLR under development for our Leo phones will include a utility to unlock these locked cards. Hopefully this is not wishful dreaming.
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The time and effort you put into your guide is admirable and appreciated, but unfortunately, dazza9075 is correct about the locked cards.
This thread still is the best for those who do not want to reinstall the Back the Future ROM to unlock their SD cards, if one can find a Nokia phone or other listed device near at hand.
There are rumors the new MAGDLR under development for our Leo phones will include a utility to unlock these locked cards. Hopefully this is not wishful dreaming.
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I tried my method in the XBMOD Rom after fully testing it I posted here. But anyways I will do it one more time when I reach home and then confirm it back. I did have two cards locked by xbmod rom and this procedure worked out for them. But for the confirmation sake I will do it one more time tonight and will post back the results...
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I tried my method in the XBMOD Rom after fully testing it I posted here. But anyways I will do it one more time when I reach home and then confirm it back. I did have two cards locked by xbmod rom and this procedure worked out for them. But for the confirmation sake I will do it one more time tonight and will post back the results...
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Do let us know the result of your experiment. It does not work for me unfortunately, but I may have buggered the card in another way. Anyway, I do appreciate the time and effort you have put into this, and happy that you are willing to share on this forum.
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Obeyed.....
Thanks for being so harsh...
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OOps sorry dude .. i shud have tried to be poilitically correct and polite but since i was in hurry i just wrote one line in fact i agree ..and apologize i should have PMed you.. but anyhow to add to detail ::
If u have a card thats been encrypted and then u try to unlock it won't be detected by most of devices .. it once worked for me on a Nokia phone .. So check if that works .. also if u are using storage unlock from XBMod then thats ok.. Lets take a Case where someone is running Android from SD and has 2 cards one for WP7 too.. now he/she swaps the card to Android but as a mistake chooses to boot into WP7 .. trust me the card is gone ....Some Nokia phones and some other devices can rescue it otherwise its gone ...
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Anybody try this yet? ezSD Ghost Clip.
http://tinyurl.com/87z9vh2
Its not the mbr that holds the secure area, deleting it makes no difference, a locked card is designed to not be viewable at all in a device its a special protected area often used for cache on higher class cards when used correctly it makes the card unreadable, Nokia phones are able to erase that area which turns off the secured feature which then lets devices access the cards storage space, however the contents of the storage area are still encrypted and as you have removed the secure area its completely unusable =)
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dazza9075 said:
Its not the mbr that holds the secure area, deleting it makes no difference, a locked card is designed to not be viewable at all in a device its a special protected area often used for cache on higher class cards when used correctly it makes the card unreadable, Nokia phones are able to erase that area which turns off the secured feature which then lets devices access the cards storage space, however the contents of the storage area are still encrypted and as you have removed the secure area its completely unusable =)
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As always, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I do have one quick question, once a locked card is formatted by a device such as a Nokia phone, is it possible to format the card again with a program such as SDFormatter to regain the storage capacity? That is what I understand, but never have tried. Of course, any formatting would remove the contents that would therefor be unusable.
because of this my SD card cant mount in recovery for me to perform a backup. is there a work around? or once its encrypted u have to undo it to access the SD card in recovery...
This is most likely going to sound rude but that's the point. I don't know what good it would do to be encrypted if you could still just plug it in and read it
If the other card isn't encrypted just switch mount points and back up to the other card
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This is most likely going to sound rude but that's the point. I don't know what good it would do to be encrypted if you could still just plug it in and read it
If the other card isn't encrypted just switch mount points and back up to the other card
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well with encrypted if someone steals my phone, they still have to be able to unlock it to click it over to Disk Drive. also if they pull it out of my phone its unreadable by a computer. so if i lose my phone the information is guaranteed to be destroyed. and as for switching to different mount points, i tried that. i clicked internal storage, and it still said could not mount storage. im decrypting right now, so i can make my nandroid, but i really wish i could keep it encrypted
it says that the phone uses a password built in somewhere to access the information. is there anyway we can set the password and then use it in recovery to access the card? or does this depend on the card and not the software.
Sorry I just reread my post and it looks like I'm saying that I'm trying to be rude lol I meant that's the point of encrypting the card lol. It wouldn't be worth encrypting if you could just open it in twrp. There are apps on the market that will encrypt just the external card and not both but I haven't tried it. I don't see the point of encrypting it when I can just lock folders. My phone is setup to wipe the card if the phone is ever lost so I'm not worried about encryption
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Sorry I just reread my post and it looks like I'm saying that I'm trying to be rude lol I meant that's the point of encrypting the card lol. It wouldn't be worth encrypting if you could just open it in twrp. There are apps on the market that will encrypt just the external card and not both but I haven't tried it. I don't see the point of encrypting it when I can just lock folders. My phone is setup to wipe the card if the phone is ever lost so I'm not worried about encryption
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very true, idk i guess i should carry a backup micro to backup and flash my roms. unless can the card be partitioned so part is encrypted and part is not?
I've never tried it, perhaps, I know a partition can be locked and encrypted leaving other partition(s) alone but I don't know if there are any apps that support it
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I've never tried it, perhaps, I know a partition can be locked and encrypted leaving other partition(s) alone but I don't know if there are any apps that support it
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hmm next dev idea? throwing it out there to anyone that wants to take a crack at it. would mean rooted phones would be better for the spy business. you know all that stealth and killing quietly nonsense
Hi,
Anyone having SD card issues?
This phone for some reason does not like my SD cards and I finally had to format it as NTFS then insert it in the phone and let the phone erase/reformat the card.
No card that I have that was already formatted with data will work in the phone.
I haven't had this issue with any other Android phone.
When I first got the phone, not thinking I put my half full 128GB card in the phone from my GS4.
Needless to say, I had some backups but the latest pictures and movies from two weeks prior are possiblly toast.
I'm running a recovery program now.
Note to all: DO NOT PUT A CARD IN THE LG G3 THAT HAS DATA ON IT!!!!!!
You do not want to be like me.
This might help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/kitkat-sd-card-access-t2790992
ylexot said:
This might help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/kitkat-sd-card-access-t2790992
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Nope enabled full access.
It's not an access issue.
Enabled access on this phone and my GS4 was also rooted and I was using Xposed.
In my case the card is unrecognized or if it is, it is considered damaged or blank.
I put in a Sandisk 128GB FAT32 formatted (in Win 7) card that I was using in a Galaxy S3 into the LG G3 and it recognized the card and all the existing data that was on it. I am able to at least read from it without problem. I have not tried writing to the card yet.
I use a tool on Windows pc to format the sd card as fat32 since exFat is proprietary to Microsoft which causes different devices to have different standards. No problem at all with Fat32 unless you want to copy a file larger than 4gb over.
Hello. I'm new here and this is my first reply.
But anyway, yes I put my sd card in my brand new Verizon LG G3 and all of a sudden it's wiped. I had to find some way to try to restore my files so I searched xda and found something about Zar recovery from 2011 I think it was. I should look it up again so can send a thanks. I'm copying files to my computer as I'm typing this. Hope I can retrieve everything. If I do I will defiantly look up that post and thank the OP. It's the free version and it's taking a very long time but hey. I started this process yesterday at about 9pm after a couple of failed attempts.
manaox2 said:
I use a tool on Windows pc to format the sd card as fat32 since exFat is proprietary to Microsoft which causes different devices to have different standards. No problem at all with Fat32 unless you want to copy a file larger than 4gb over.
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I think my issue was with exFat. The phone didn't recognize it and threw up a fur ball.
My Galaxy S4 was just fine with it.
Note to self -. exFAT is bad on LG phones.
tech_head said:
Hi,
Anyone having SD card issues?
This phone for some reason does not like my SD cards and I finally had to format it as NTFS then insert it in the phone and let the phone erase/reformat the card.
No card that I have that was already formatted with data will work in the phone.
I haven't had this issue with any other Android phone.
When I first got the phone, not thinking I put my half full 128GB card in the phone from my GS4.
Needless to say, I had some backups but the latest pictures and movies from two weeks prior are possiblly toast.
I'm running a recovery program now.
Note to all: DO NOT PUT A CARD IN THE LG G3 THAT HAS DATA ON IT!!!!!!
You do not want to be like me.
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I pulled the 32GB SD card I had in my GPad and put it right into my Verizon G3....read the few pics and videos I had on it, and shows about 28GB of free space. So...I surely didn't have this issue (and it was pics of my niece so if I had lost them I would have been cheesed)
I think the Verizon version of the G3 has a bug with 128GB sdcards. When I pulled my card from the S5 and put it in the G3, it damaged the file structure and needed to format the card. I tried putting it back in the S5 before I formatted it and the S5 couldn't read it anymore. This scenario has happened on more than one occasion too when going back and forth between the S5 and the G3. It never happened with the AT&T version.
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I think the Verizon version of the G3 has a bug with 128GB sdcards. When I pulled my card from the S5 and put it in the G3, it damaged the file structure and needed to format the card. I tried putting it back in the S5 before I formatted it and the S5 couldn't read it anymore. This scenario has happened on more than one occasion too when going back and forth between the S5 and the G3. It never happened with the AT&T version.
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Okay, so it wasn't just me.
This is *EXACTLY* what I experienced.
I had to use recovery software to get my pictures back.
I need to manually go the the recovered files before I wipe the card.
tech_head said:
Okay, so it wasn't just me.
This is *EXACTLY* what I experienced.
I had to use recovery software to get my pictures back.
I need to manually go the the recovered files before I wipe the card.
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My 64GB card has no problems. I can move it between the two with no issues.
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My 64GB card has no problems. I can move it between the two with no issues.
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My experience was with a 128GB card.
tech_head said:
My experience was with a 128GB card.
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Right. 128GB card has problems; 64GB card has no problem. I have tried both.
Zar took a total of 41 hours
And only recovered one song and one picture. Oh my god I should have backed up before I messed with that sd card.
foundingfathersfan2 said:
And only recovered one song and one picture. Oh my god I should have backed up before I messed with that sd card.
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I was able to get quite a bit off, several thousand.
What software are you using?
I'm using photorec -< http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
Update: It has nothing to do with exFAT.
I formatted the 128GB card on my Mac with exFAT and it works fine. I've been back and forth between the Mac and my G3 with the newly formatted 128GB card.
I think it had issues from the GS4. I went directly from GS4 to G3 and that is when things went south.
I have transferred more than 75GB onto the card both through the G3 and stand alone with an adapter with no issues.
So I was able to recover most stuff and now using the card after formatting on the Mac with no issues. YMMV, but if moving from one phone to another I would put the card in a PC/Mac whatever, backup and repair any file system issues *BEFORE* using the card in a G3.
Which is good advise anyway.
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...backup and repair any file system issues *BEFORE* using the card in a G3.
Which is good advise anyway.
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Anyone wandering around with 32GB-64GB-128GB of data in their pocket without it being backed up is just asking for trouble. Historically, microSD cards are not that reliable.
My g3 had no issues reading my 64gb card, it does however have issues with saving data on to it, anytime I try to dl something and save it to my sd card is says failed no space available, which is not the case as I have around 8gb of free space, its weird because I can dl to internal memory and then transfer it to my sd card without a problem
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Update: It has nothing to do with exFAT.
I formatted the 128GB card on my Mac with exFAT and it works fine. I've been back and forth between the Mac and my G3 with the newly formatted 128GB card.
I think it had issues from the GS4. I went directly from GS4 to G3 and that is when things went south.
I have transferred more than 75GB onto the card both through the G3 and stand alone with an adapter with no issues.
So I was able to recover most stuff and now using the card after formatting on the Mac with no issues. YMMV, but if moving from one phone to another I would put the card in a PC/Mac whatever, backup and repair any file system issues *BEFORE* using the card in a G3.
Which is good advise anyway.
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So it has something to do with Samsung's implementation of exFat. The GS3's exFat was already corrupting and losing files when I first got my sd card which is why I formatted it to FAT32 in the first place. Wouldn't surprise me that the GS4 wasn't perfect either.
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And only recovered one song and one picture. Oh my god I should have backed up before I messed with that sd card.
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I've had the most luck recovering a corrupt sd card with a program called Recuva. Depending on the extent of the corruption there may not be much left to recover, but a second option never hurts.
If you encrypt the internal memory, does TWRP unencrypt and have access? I know the N6 initially had some issues with this, so don't want to go through the encryption process until I know. THanks.
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If you encrypt the internal memory, does TWRP unencrypt and have access? I know the N6 initially had some issues with this, so don't want to go through the encryption process until I know. THanks.
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Wondering the same
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Just tried it. First even getting it to encrypt was difficult. Second, when it was encrypted everything would crash on the "enter passphrase" screen making it almost impossible to log in. Third, TWRP couldn't mount the encrypted drive. It prompted me for the pin, but kept insisting it was wrong.
T-mobile LG V10. Rooted, xposed, stock rom.
Ughhh, that's annoying. Maybe post in the twrp thread? I'd love to enjoy my phone as is but also be encrypted.
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I'm using the Samsung Tab S2 (SM-T710 variant) and I've been testing out the SD card encryption feature.
When I've encrypted the SD (Transend 32GB) card, I get confirmation it's been encrypted. I see the progress bar etc as it encrypts the files on the card.
But, if I put the card in a card reader and connect it to my PC, all the files on the card are visible and editable.
If I put the card in my Note 4, it thinks the card is encrypted.
The tablet is rooted stock ROM 6.01 MM, with Xposed and other Mods installed.
But, even disabling them and rebooting doesn't help.
And I've re-flashed the "clean install" backup I created when I first installed Marshmallow n the tablet.
Does encryption only work in Android's own little world or should it be secure on all platforms?
If Android's encryption is useless, can anyone recommend any 3rd party software that works, either on Android or with Android/PC? (I've tried "Eds" in the past on a Fuse enabled custom ROM, with TrueCrypt/Veracrypt and it doesn't work for me).
Thank you
Very interesting. Did you try to update your android version ?
Did you find any solution to your problem ?
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Very interesting. Did you try to update your android version ?
Did you find any solution to your problem ?
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Thanks for the reply.
I don't think there's been an update from 6.01 for the Tab S2, if there has been, I've not updated.
No, I gave up on the idea. I couldn't get it to work at all and I couldn't find any 3rd party software either.
Well, this is a huge drawback...
I am having a very similar problem. I got a Galaxy Note 3. I went through the process of encrypting it - it didn't boot after that. Then I decided to install this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...hwiz-marshmallow-note-3-t3349306/post69109669
It managed to encrypt the phone, but the part for encrypting the SD card is simply not there. I don't see a three-dots menu from where I can choose if to join the SD card to the internal storage or not. I choose to format the card. It says it'll make it secure, but actually it only puts a few Android folders and on another phone I can see, read and play a file which I've put there!
This is really embarrassing, I've been fighting with encryption for 1 week!
Also, I tried to find a software, which would do that. EDS sounds promising, but when I launch it, it just hangs
How can the quality of software be sooooo poor! I'm very very disappointed
I will now try another ROM(s)