(This was also posted at Moto G4 Plus, just to let everybody know).
After so much confussion with tech sites calling it Motorola Moto G4 and other Lenovo Moto G4, we found out that the devices are actually "Motorola Moto G4".
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- Motorola is the manufacturer of the phone according to its system specs
- The phone carries Motorola Mobile Computing System as per the official specs (motorola.com)
- Its internals (like the battery) come with the Motorola original logo.
- The box of the phone says "Manufactured by Motorola Mobility"
- Under settings you will also see "Motorola Privacy" and "Motorola ID"
- The box has a little Lenovo logo, yes, but it also has the Motorola logo (not the M only, the full name) and in its product information says it is "Motorola Moto G4 XTxxxx"
- The moto Gs sold in the US and Latin America will only have a small Lenovo logo in the back of the box. The ones sold in Europe and Asia will have a small Lenovo logo in the front
- Under the back cover it says "Designed by Motorola - Made in China (or India/Brazil, depends on the country)"
Yes, the Lenovo branding is now present but legally/technically the devices are Motorola
The Moto g3 also had lenovo on the box if irc
Thanks a Ton !!!!!!
mtvdeo said:
(This was also posted at Moto G4 Plus, just to let everybody know).
After so much confussion with tech sites calling it Motorola Moto G4 and other Lenovo Moto G4, we found out that the devices are actually "Motorola Moto G4".
See the pics below:
- Motorola is the manufacturer of the phone according to its system specs
- The phone carries Motorola Mobile Computing System as per the official specs (motorola.com)
- The box of the phone says "Manufactured by Motorola Mobility"
- Under settings you will also see "Motorola Privacy" and "Motorola ID"
- The box has a little Lenovo logo, yes, but it also has the Motorola logo (not the M only, the full name) and in its product information says it is "Motorola Moto G4 XTxxxx"
- The moto Gs sold in the US and Latin America will only have a small Lenovo logo in the back of the box. The ones sold in Europe and Asia will have a small Lenovo logo in the front
- Under the back cover it says "Designed by Motorola - Made in China (or India/Brazil, depends on the country)"
Yes, the Lenovo branding is now present but legally/technically the devices are Motorola
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You really Really Deserve a Thanks !!!!! Thanks a Ton !!!!!!!
I have been asking about this to some reviewers !! But they where not able to answer my question !!! But now it is clear on the table !!! :good:Moto Rocks ! Thank you very Much !!!!
kesavvel said:
You really Really Deserve a Thanks !!!!! Thanks a Ton !!!!!!!
I have been asking about this to some reviewers !! But they where not able to answer my question !!! But now it is clear on the table !!! :good:Moto Rocks ! Thank you very Much !!!!
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You are welcome!
The reason everyone is calling it Lenovo is because the launch event in India happened before the other launch events, and in India the Lenovo executives were present and some Lenovo logos were shown. So most news outlets reported it as Lenovo Moto G4.
However, when the launch events for Mexico and Brazil happened some hours later, there was no Lenovo branding shown. In fact, the box for the US and Latin America won't show that Logo on the front. Even if you look at Moto's youtube accounts for latin american countries, there is no lenovo branding at the end.
So there was a bit of confussion, but as we can see they are all Motorola inside (thank God!)
Ohh I see I am from India ! Your Information will help people to understand the concept ! Thanks again for the detailed information !
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Though the boot animation has lenovo
tzzeri said:
Though the boot animation has lenovo
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That's true, that's part of the strategy. Motorola becomes "less" visible but it still makes the phone. They should have kept the M and not that new moto logo (which by the way "moto" is a trademark of Motorola that is used by both Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions). That boot animation is not nice at all IMO. Should start with the M and then show the Lenovo logo.
mtvdeo said:
That's true, that's part of the strategy. Motorola becomes "less" visible but it still makes the phone. They should have kept the M and not that new moto logo (which by the way "moto" is a trademark of Motorola that is used by both Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions). That boot animation is not nice at all IMO. Should start with the M and then show the Lenovo logo.
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Lol. I actually flashed the boot animation on my g3 and I like it. I think more than making the Motorola less visible, they're trying to make lenovo more visible. It'd definitely be a shame if Motorola went down the drain, as they pioneered the cell phone.
tzzeri said:
Lol. I actually flashed the boot animation on my g3 and I like it. I think more than making the Motorola less visible, they're trying to make lenovo more visible. It'd definitely be a shame if Motorola went down the drain, as they pioneered the cell phone.
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Yeah, it's a bit of both. If the January reports and drama of "the death of Motorola" hadn't happened, it would be a whole different story and the Lenovo logos would pass unnoticed
I was Just Affraid Of Lenovo Branding on The Box ...............
i get Just releif
Nayanbobde said:
I was Just Affraid Of Lenovo Branding on The Box ...............
i get Just releif
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Yeah, but it's a Motorola, don't worry.
Updated thread to include picture showing the phone disassembly. Its battery comes with the original Motorola brand logo.
Overheats, poor Voice quality, not a daily driver
After close to a week of usage:
Dual Sim:
Sim1: configured for 3g
Sim2: configured for 2g
Apps installed: Whatsapp, Facebook, Facebook Messnger, Ghostery, VLC, Google+
Email accounts accessed: Only Google, one ID
OOBE prompted for a ROM upgrade, upgrade succeeded.
1. Overheating issue persists, upon charging
2. Charges pretty fast, Turbo charger works, but discharges also very fast (battery life is not so good 100 to 90 percent after 30mins of browsing over wifi, sitting next to the router)
3. Occasionally freezes and you need to power off and restart (has happened twice so far)
4. Voice Quality IS WORST... the mic doesn't seem to work, need to be always on a 3.5 mm headset for the others to hear my voice
5. Guess deep sleeps or dozes off permanently. Does not autosync whatsapp messages for an hour or more
6. Data connection keeps getting dropped on 3G (Confirmed not an SP issue. My other phone blazes on the same SP placed next to each other)
Pros:
1. Nice camera and good shots
2. Near Plain Vanilla Marshmallow, no bloatware
3. Good fingerprint sensor - pretty fast
4. Average display
I'm from Italy.
I have bought this G4 3 days ago. (2/16gb version) .
I think it really is a nice device, i'm happy for this purchase.
It is not a top smartphone but it really does his job quite good in every area.
I recommended it.
The boot animation is not from Motorola
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afaque22 said:
The boot animation is not from Motorola
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Just as I explained, boot shows the Moto name (which is a trademark registed of Motorola anyway) and the Lenovo logo later. Lenovo logo only appears there and in a corner of the box.
However, if you buy the phone through motomaker website and select a custom welcome message, the phone will come with the Motorola boot logo.
If I just purchased a company for $2.91 billion, I'd want my name on it too.
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I just thought I would chime in. I work at amazon and all the boxes have Lenovo branding on the box and the description that comes up is Moto G4. I don't think matters though. Just like other products. A guy and or computer built the phone. Camera from this place, CPU from this place, human puts some of it together. Whether the name is imbeded inside the phone or not doesn't have an effect on anything.
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I just thought I would chime in. I work at amazon and all the boxes have Lenovo branding on the box and the description that comes up is Moto G4. I don't think matters though. Just like other products. A guy and or computer built the phone. Camera from this place, CPU from this place, human puts some of it together. Whether the name is imbeded inside the phone or not doesn't have an effect on anything.
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^^
If you've seen the box you'll notice the bottom of the box says Motorola Moto G4, and says manufactured by Motorola Mobility.
The products (and packaging) still come with the Motorola M logo too, just like an iPhone box doesn't say Apple but just shows the Apple logo...well the M batwing logo is the Motorola logo.
It's really no matter what is stamped on the phone or box. On 10-30-2014 Lenovo purchased Motorola Mobility for $2.91 billion US so you can call it Motorola or Lenovo, it's Lenovo in the end. Of course when Google owned Motorola, no one called it a Google phone. (that was another animal, the G1 from HTC). I would guess that they're keeping the Motorola name around for marketing because the name has been around awhile and when people think of Lenovo, they think of laptops. If I dished out that much money though, you'd better believe that I'd want my name showing up somewhere, hence the boot screen.
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The Moto g3 also had lenovo on the box if irc
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You do not
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http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-dinara-revealed-tipped-for-att
Motorola just launched the Dinara this morning, but because it was shrouded as a China-only handset, no one really noticed. Well the dual-core, 720p, 13-megapixel XT928 is indeed coming to the US, we've learned, as the MB886 (and internationally as the XT885/XT920); like the MB860 Atrix and MB865 Atrix 2, Dinara is expected to land on AT&T, although possibly not as an exclusive.
This is the second time in recent memory that the company has quietly revealed the international version of a handset before launching the American variant: we saw the Droid 3 spoiled by the Milestone 3 only a few months back. However, with the RAZR having only recently begun shipping -- itself upstaging the Bionic -- it seems unlikely that Dinara will be announced in the US until at least CES.
Full specs on China's Dinara can be found in the press release, linked below. Although the XT928 is a 3G device, expect Dinara to be loaded with LTE radios by the time it arrives stateside (regardless of carrier).
looks like were outdated very soon.
4.5" 720p screen
13mp camera
Dolby Digital Sound
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I'm Disappointed. Completely.
kholk said:
I'm Disappointed. Completely.
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Yeah..a fatter and larger RAZR? Kind of redundant..and not appetizing.
robstunner said:
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/motorola-dinara-revealed-tipped-for-att
looks like were outdated very soon.
4.5" 720p screen
13mp camera
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Thanks. But I don't see anything really eye catching. meh
Feels like I just got butthurt
I'm disappointed only because they could have put the 13MP camera in the RAZR, it isn't bigger. The RAZR would have costed like 80€ more than now, but well, it could have been a real highend superior device.
And it isn't a chipset limitation: OMAP4430 supports it FULLY.
I'm bored of this. As soon as replacements for Dinara will be out, I'll buy its replacement 13MP camera, mount it in the RAZR and port its driver, other than write a guide on how to mount that $%£$%£ camera in it.
And obviously I hope its pinout will be compatible/adaptable on our RAZR.
kholk said:
I'm disappointed only because they could have put the 13MP camera in the RAZR, it isn't bigger. The RAZR would have costed like 80€ more than now, but well, it could have been a real highend superior device.
And it isn't a chipset limitation: OMAP4430 supports it FULLY.
I'm bored of this. As soon as replacements for Dinara will be out, I'll buy its replacement 13MP camera, mount it in the RAZR and port its driver, other than write a guide on how to mount that $%£$%£ camera in it.
And obviously I hope its pinout will be compatible/adaptable on our RAZR.
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I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
Semseddin said:
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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This.
If the Dinara is, like is rumored, an LCD screen and a sub-par camera (if the sensor sucks, 13MP might actually be a downgrade since it will make for noisy shots), I would consider it a downgrade from the RAZR. Also, Verizon > AT&T (in my area, and most others; YMMV).
Nothing to see, here. The RAZR will be outclassed soon enough, but not by this.
robstunner said:
I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
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So? Just because a new Nexus comes only once a year doesn't mean that they're not outdated quickly. The Nexus S came out right before the emergence of dual-core headsets and was literally outdated within weeks and even the Galaxy Nexus will be replaced soon enough; quad-core devices are literally only months away at this point.
Options are the beauty of this platform.
Want incremental, yearly updates? Go get an iPhone, simple as that.
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So? Just because a new Nexus comes only once a year doesn't mean that they're not outdated quickly. The Nexus S came out right before the emergence of dual-core headsets and was literally outdated within weeks and even the Galaxy Nexus will be replaced soon enough; quad-core devices are literally only months away at this point.
Options are the beauty of this platform.
Want incremental, yearly updates? Go get an iPhone, simple as that.
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Yea, that will never happen again (iPhone). I enjoy my razr, and if that post above LCD screen in the dinara is correct, I also say FAIL. I couldn't find any information on the specifics on the Motorola press release.
Semseddin said:
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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zn5 dosn't have kodak sensor
only kodak there is function for image enhancement, nothing more...
but, I surely would love sensor from XT720 + xenon flash on some new moto phone
(xt720 has a much better image quality than zn5)
Where's the Kevlar, if it ain't stoppin bullets I don't want it.
pajo985 said:
zn5 dosn't have kodak sensor
only kodak there is function for image enhancement, nothing more...
but, I surely would love sensor from XT720 + xenon flash on some new moto phone
(xt720 has a much better image quality than zn5)
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That's your opinion. I've used both phones and Zn5 is hands down winner against the XT720 when it comes to image quality. XT720 was also good but it wasn't near nowhere to zn5 !
Honestly, that looks like a RAZR had sex with a Droid X. I appreciate the camera and the screen, but their design is moving backwards now..
And Moto is trying desperately to stay on top, just like everyone else. Android is a quickly-evolving platform, there's always something new around the corner to jam into a device. And when potential buyers are looking for a phone, they always want the newest technology. While it might seem like a bad decision to keep throwing phones out every other week that make yours look like crap, in order to hold their own, they kindof have to. That's why you don't see them cranking out seven tablets every week, tablets are more like "okay well as long as we have the newest processor and a decent GPU we're pretty well off let's check back in 4 months"
Semseddin said:
That's your opinion. I've used both phones and Zn5 is hands down winner against the XT720 when it comes to image quality. XT720 was also good but it wasn't near nowhere to zn5 !
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I have both phones, and XT has so much better color reproduction, sharpness and noise reduction
maybe I have some old firmware on ZN5, but that's for some another thread..
ICS might actually improve the picture quality. There may be mods as well that make things better. You gotta think what's more important, the phone as a whole or the camera.
robstunner said:
I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
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Mmm HTC hasn't been TOO bad about pushing out devices, and even then the specs are either equal, lesser, or slightly better. Moto just seems to be pushing devices out left and right. It is pretty disappointing to drop $300 + on a device and then a few weeks later you see something with higher specs come out. The HD screen vs qHD does make a fairly decent difference from what I've noticed so far. Tbh the upcoming Nexus phone isn't anything revolutionary or spectacular except for ICS. Android phones are just coming out too fast and hopefully it slows down a bit.
damn, i can't wait for this phone! looks like a mean upgrade from my current one.
http://gadgetsteria.com/2011/12/01/flog-that-horse-motorola-droid-razr-max-revealed-in-exif-data/
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Will Dell respond with a newer, better, Streak, now that they see there is a market for these hybrid phone/tablets? Should I just jump on the Note when it finally becomes available or wait to see what Dell will do? I'm due for an upgrade in March so I guess I'll wait until then...
Yeah you can wait till March but there is very less possibility that Dell may come out with something comparable to Note in near future.
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It would be sad to see Dell following Samsung...
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I'd very much like to see dell release another phoneblet with top of the line specs, sadly I'm highly skeptical about it.
Given how Android didn't sell itself according to the lack of marketing Dell provided, I wouldn't expect to see another Streak unless it ran Windows Phone 7. The irony here is that Windows Phone 7 has the smallest market share of any mobile OS.
Who knows what dell is going to do, the only 'new' device is the Streak pro and it's still not really available in china yet and not out in japan.
The S5 launched outside europe half a year later, it's not impossible they'll launch the SPro elsewhere eventually, besides that they canceled more WP7 phones then they did android phones. But it's a mid-upper end 4.3" and not a 5.x" device.
Currently there's no known devices on their roadmap, besides the weak promise of new tabs or something during CES. A new roadmap for 2012 hasnt leaked/been made available yet, everything on the 2011 one is either out or canceled.
2011 road map to date:
2 canceled WP7 devices
1 canceled android phone,
2 canceled android tabs (the 'opus one' is in the tab category)
1 Pending update to the s10 (ICS and 'handwriting support'(?) )
It wont really matter how good a device dell puts out, if they dont change their advertising strat. The software on their devices have improved dramatically post-S5, but it means jack if they half-ass their launches.
If they have any plans at all, they're doing a pretty good job keeping us in the dark.
If DELL is serious making an impact in the market, they should ask Samsung or HTC to make a phone for them. At least, we would have a quality device and not a crap one like the Streak.
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If DELL is serious making an impact in the market, they should ask Samsung or HTC to make a phone for them. At least, we would have a quality device and not a crap one like the Streak.
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I'll be totally honest with you, I prefer the quality and finish on my streak far more than most of the samsung line they feel too plasticy and flimsy IMHO, plus back when s5 was announced it was pretty much top of the line sans for 1.6. I think dell should just get it together with making the drivers open source thus sparking more interest and a bigger development community for the device, and of course spend way more on marketing than with the s5.
It's not at all about who makes it, it's about the fact noone knows they exist.
I cant speak of every other market, but in the US only the s5 had any advertising. Of which it was 1 month or so of commercials. The S7 and V didnt get any at all, not surprisingly the S5 outsold the S7, V, VPro combined (no data to back this up, just by pure post count on xda)
The fact the Note doesnt even need this has a lot to do with it's specs, it's about the most powerful device it's size currently, the S5 was nearly the last major S1 snapdragon released. Samsung's been doing pretty well with the galaxy family, it's momentum is the equivilent of a year or so of good advertising if it were the S5.
The S5 wasnt supported by any carrier in the US, only sold quietly by best buy. The GN is going to be available with at&t and verizon(?), though internally those varients are pretty much entirely different devices.
If it wasnt for the software, I really could see myself using the S5 till early 2013 (which is like 800 years in phone years) That's the biggest difference between samsung and dell, samsung is a lot more dev friendly.
EVEN if dell launched the 'opus one' yesterday it wouldnt compete with the note, they're in seperate price brackets. It would be like comparing the kindle fire with the S7, even though the S7 is older it's still faster. If you went by MSRP you could buy 2 S7's or 3 KFs for the same amount of money. Just like not all 4.0"/etc phones are equal.
The Streak is a fine device, and has kept me happy probably longer than any other phone. Will probably look into the Note when released on AT&T, but just for the hardware and later software upgrade. The streak still does everything I actually need.
It's the first phone that I could actually keep through a 2 year contact, if I wasn't such a nerd...
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It's not at all about who makes it, it's about the fact noone knows they exist.
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i got a spam phone call yesterday with a company trying to sell me phone insurance
the woman asked me what phone i had?
so i said dell streak
she said
no what phone do you have?
i said a dell streak
she said
no what phone do you have? is it a blackberry or an iphone?
i said no its a DELL STREAK
she tutted & put the phone down on me
poor woman didnt know what to do as i dont think the dell streaks insurable
scdsone said:
i got a spam phone call yesterday with a company trying to sell me phone insurance
the woman asked me what phone i had?
so i said dell streak
she said
no what phone do you have?
i said a dell streak
she said
no what phone do you have? is it a blackberry or an iphone?
i said no its a DELL STREAK
she tutted & put the phone down on me
poor woman didnt know what to do as i dont think the dell streaks insurable
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ROLF ...
shoulda told her you had one of these:
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INSURE THAT!
I concur with the positive views of the S5 voiced here. My S5 got water damaged over the weekend and is irretrievably bricked. Of the 20 or so mobile devices I have owned over the last decade this was the one I have had the longest and would have quite happily continued with it ad infinitum.
My dissapointment is compounded as the search for another 5 inch device only reveals The Note.
Dell seem to be steering away from the 'phablet' arena, not surprisingly given it's specialist nature and lack of worldwide sales. As this thread began, one can only hope that significant sales of the Note don't go unnoticed by Dell.
With the Note as yet largely unavalable with UK carriers, I am as deviceless, miserable and lost as I have been at any time in the last decade.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
My new Streak 5 just arrived. I had to part with £170 for it (cheaper in the long run than an insurance claim on my water damaged one) but it's pristine. I never want to be without one again.
Well, I will miss my Streak when the ebay auction ends, but I must say I'm enjoying my Note's 4g speed for internet browsing. It also seems a bit faster when switching between apps and such. I did like the fact that the Streak had a metal chassis, and that gave it a more solid feel than the Note has, but the Note's lightness is also nice. I won't miss the Streak's connection port, and find the micro-usb port on the Note far more convenient to use.
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Barry (NJ) said:
Well, I will miss my Streak when the ebay auction ends, but I must say I'm enjoying my Note's 4g speed for internet browsing. It also seems a bit faster when switching between apps and such. I did like the fact that the Streak had a metal chassis, and that gave it a more solid feel than the Note has, but the Note's lightness is also nice. I won't miss the Streak's connection port, and find the micro-usb port on the Note far more convenient to use.
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I don't think the streak ever had a metal chasis, only the battery cover is metal.
The chassis might be aniondized plastic or something, the inner surface is plastic I believe but the outer side is much more durable then simple plastic. Regardless, that fact is why I like the S5 as it is and feels rather scratch resistant.
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You could be right, but it always felt so solid I assumed it was metal
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Would you buy the Huawei Honor Magic ?
Honor magic details
https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/16/huawei-honor-magic/
http://www.honor.cn/products/mobile-phones/honor-magic/
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/12/1...nt-magic-live-assistant-everything-need-know/
Unboxing:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg2Nzk3ODg1Ng==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2&spm=a2h0k.8191407.0.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHLa3SunEe0&t=4s
Honor Magic Disassembled:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3MTIxOTE0NA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Honor magic designed by Things To Be:
https://www.dexigner.com/news/29618
Early hands on reviews:
http://mobile.pconline.com.cn/867/8679962.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3Nzc4ODAxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3ODczNTcxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3OTM4NDg2MA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Pros over P9 plus:
Handy size 5.1inch screen
curved edge screen/pebble shape
2k screen
front finger scanner with navigation controls
New eye & face scanner/infra red camera for access & privacy
Frame sensor for hand recognition
Fast charging (70% in 20 mins)
(Some contextual aware features which most likely will not work outside China)
New Variant UI that will be developed differently from EMUI, with more youth and innovation centric.
Cons:
Not Leica branded lens and photo processing
No external memory card
Huawei branding (530$ is high for a budget branded "Honor" phone)
P9 plus has larger screen & larger battery
No pressure touch screen (Google has their software alternative though)
No stereo speakers
No changes:
12mp dual camera (not the 20mp of mate 9)
Kirin 950
Amoled Screen
If the magic has the newer Kirin 960 (LPDDR4+UFS2.1 Flash memory + Mali G71MP8) i would have gone for it without a thought. But now its not so easy. The whole front finger print sensor and eye scanner features makes it very tempting for me as when im at my work desk having to put password every time is such a pain. The P9 plus still looks very gorgeous, slim and premium and love it design wise while the Honor magic design looks pretty cool, radical & futurish. Im not a camera guy so not really important for me to have that latest best of the best camera.
Would you take the risk and go for honor Magic now or patient enough to wait another 6-8 months for the p10 which would have the Kirin 960, top notch camera, eye scanner, front finger print and bluetooth 5.0 but with more hefty price tag.
Would never go for less battery ...
xeizo said:
Would never go for less battery ...
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Has fast charging though. If the 2k screen on the 2900mah can last a day with no worrying about, then a 30 minute charge is not a problem for me personally. The p9 plus for me is caught in between as it lasts like 1 and half day and has to be charged every day as well to keep up that other half day.
If fast charging works on the same chipset. It will work also on P9 Plus with the same specs.
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If fast charging works on the same chipset. It will work also on P9 Plus with the same specs.
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The battery on the magic is built different, as well as additional safety measures in place. It has a 5V/8A charger.
i'm considering the magic, but need to know if I can install play store and side upload apk apps.
kms108 said:
i'm considering the magic, but need to know if I can install play store and side upload apk apps.
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Yes you can for sure. All EMUI phones can. We usually use the pre-installed Huawei appstore to download playstore.
Also read this thread here for a general idea of what to expect on software side on a China version phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9-plus/help/to-vie-al10-t3386700
Thanks for the reply, from your experience, do you think there will be a hong kong version of the magic, or even a upgrade version with the 960 chipset to support simultaneous 4G/3G on both sim, just like the current Mate 9, or may be a 128GB version, as i'm not sure how huawei markets their phones, release one now, and a upgrade version afterwards.
Also are most bloatware deletable or allow to be disable on huawei phone.
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Thanks for the reply, from your experience, do you think there will be a hong kong version of the magic, or even a upgrade version with the 960 chipset to support simultaneous 4G/3G on both sim, just like the current Mate 9, or may be a 128GB version, as i'm not sure how huawei markets their phones, release one now, and a upgrade version afterwards.
Also are most bloatware deletable or allow to be disable on huawei phone.
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Very very unlikely they will bring a Kirin 960. Any variant will be just a color and memory variant at max (Even color and memory variant they for now neither confirm nor deny it). If Magic was a hit they would likely bring a big size version of the phone with pumped up specs in 6-8months after release of Huawei P10. I still have no idea why they decided to go for K950 as it is such a weird choice for a 2k screen phone marketed as the future phone. Have to see the performance in hand. The honor 8 had good reviews, so maybe they wanted to continue and feel confident with all their optimizations, and also maybe to not cut down sales of Mate 9.
News sites mention Honor looking for partners like facebook to make Honor magic release in India possible. So might see in HonkKong as well. Although i also feel it could be a bit too late if it was not planned already.
As far as i read, the magic is dual sim and 4g in the sense that you can with software settings switch around which one sim uses 4g while other sim remaims on 2g. So both cannot be on 4g at same time but you can switch between sims by settings.
Yes most bloatware deletable, except for a couple of Huawei apps.
warea said:
Very very unlikely they will bring a Kirin 960. Any variant will be just a color and memory variant at max (Even color and memory variant they for now neither confirm nor deny it). If Magic was a hit they would likely bring a big size version of the phone with pumped up specs in 6-8months after release of Huawei P10. I still have no idea why they decided to go for K950 as it is such a weird choice for a 2k screen phone marketed as the future phone. Have to see the performance in hand. The honor 8 had good reviews, so maybe they wanted to continue and feel confident with all their optimizations, and also maybe to not cut down sales of Mate 9.
News sites mention Honor looking for partners like facebook to make Honor magic release in India possible. So might see in HonkKong as well. Although i also feel it could be a bit too late if it was not planned already.
As far as i read, the magic is dual sim and 4g in the sense that you can with software settings switch around which one sim uses 4g while other sim remaims on 2g. So both cannot be on 4g at same time but you can switch between sims by settings.
Yes most bloatware deletable, except for a couple of Huawei apps.
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I spoken to a friend who works for Huawei, he hasn't heard about the magic, but did say that it will not be available in Hong Kong for sure, Hong Kong has stopped selling Huawei Honor series for a good few years now, and has concertrated on the P series and Mate, mid range phones like the honor series won't be available, so my only choice is to buy it direct from china, hopefully they do sell them locally from a authorized store, as I don't buy phones through online, although I do know you can get the magic from 4 huawei authorised online site. So once I get to see this phone in person I will get it on the 9th of next month.
For user reviews and Q&A, see https://item.jd.com/product/4213312.html
warea said:
For user reviews and Q&A, see https://item.jd.com/product/4213312.html
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I decide to get one on the 9th, my visit to china shenzhen, that's if their store have them, but I don't think it's available, most of them have been snatched up and inflated in price.
kms108 said:
I decide to get one on the 9th, my visit to china shenzhen, that's if their store have them, but I don't think it's available, most of them have been snatched up and inflated in price.
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Yes It might be on stores but from resellers with price inflated by 300-500 CNY im guessing. The most preferred option for you might be if you have a friend in China who can order it online and you can collect it since you will visit China anyway.
I ordered one early from Aliexpress re sellers at 642$ (21% increase from original price which is high and won't recommend for everyone) as a preorder with a basic non-quick 3 week shipping. The resellers on Aliexpress have now inflated the price to ridiculous 750 to 900$. I will get my phone from the 1st batch which they are only receiving in past couple days. The second batch is being sold online on 1st of January i think.
There is a dedicated forum here now btw: http://forum.xda-developers.com/magic
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And on Android Enterprise site it shows G6 official OS is Android 8.0.0
AndroidEnterprise
UPDATE:
Looks like it will go straight to 8.1
Source
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That could be a game changer if it was announced at the start. But, everyone knows they will give people 1 major and maybe 2 security update then, they keep promising for next major update as they did at G4 but that next major version will never come out globally. I see this news as "meh".
Plus, "LG Electronics USA, Inc. today announced that the LG V30 and LG G6 premium smartphones available in the United States will earn "Android Enterprise Recommended" approval in a new Google-led program, following an upgrade to Android 8.1."
Can we assume it will stay as a local feature and will never go global?
I think it's global since they came out with this in Poland too.
Wysłane z mojego LG-H870 przy użyciu Tapatalka
I don't know whether or not this would apply to the United States too, but LG Canada says March 2 - 9 for the Oreo update.
wakari_mayo said:
That could be a game changer if it was announced at the start. But, everyone knows they will give people 1 major and maybe 2 security update then, they keep promising for next major update as they did at G4 but that next major version will never come out globally. I see this news as "meh".
Plus, "LG Electronics USA, Inc. today announced that the LG V30 and LG G6 premium smartphones available in the United States will earn "Android Enterprise Recommended" approval in a new Google-led program, following an upgrade to Android 8.1."
Can we assume it will stay as a local feature and will never go global?
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Now they keep on updating every single version of this phone. And lg Poland replayed yesterday to me that I won't be disappointed (REPLAYED AT NIGHT)
Let see if it's for all G6s and V30s or only for selected models for business use...
Killua96 said:
Let see if it's for all G6s and V30s or only for selected models for business use...
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So according to the program we all should known the truth around 5th of April.( or earlier)
One requisit is to have adt least one unlockeable version, so the usa unlocked version and european h870 are likely to enter for sure to this program.
The program means also that security updates are issued each at most 90 days.
Probably they implementate Project Treble? Making the LG Owners feeling great again
ric84 said:
Probably they implementate Project Treble? Making the LG Owners feeling great again
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I'm not sure if G6 has needed partition that is needed for Project Tremble. But let's hope it does.
ric84 said:
Probably they implementate Project Treble? Making the LG Owners feeling great again
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I want to belive !
Dejan Kruljac said:
I'm not sure if G6 has needed partition that is needed for Project Tremble. But let's hope it does.
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If there isn't LG can always create it, it's a partition after all...
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Just kidding, I wish this stuff was 100% true. We will see. Fingers crossed.
Let's see then, I sure hope for a timely and bug free (hello samsung) update to 8.0.
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I'm a little bit skeptical about the reality of this. Right now it's good publicity for the phones without them having to actually do anything. The G6 is almost a year old and if it never gets beyond 8.0 or even if it gets dropped from the list after 6 months because of not complying with some part of it, no big deal for them because it's late in the phone's lifecycle anyway.
If it bumps up sales enough that they will show it some more update love, great. But the G6 faces the same uphill battle in the enterprise as they do with the consumer and I don't think there's any compelling reason a big enterprise would choose it over the latest Samsung or iphone (smaller companies might choose it based on cost).
jdock said:
I'm a little bit skeptical about the reality of this. Right now it's good publicity for the phones without them having to actually do anything. The G6 is almost a year old and if it never gets beyond 8.0 or even if it gets dropped from the list after 6 months because of not complying with some part of it, no big deal for them because it's late in the phone's lifecycle anyway.
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I am sure Google had some chat with LG on the matter before including G6 on the list. I am also sure that LG cares about bothering Google with some cheap tricks. It's not that LG cares about you or me but they surely care about Google. I also hope that Google doens't just do free false advertising in LG behalf, they are a bit cleverer than this. The relationship LG-Google is not about G6 being late in it's lifecycle but about all the next phones. After all Google "guarantees" for LG in front of a lot of very serious clients (businesses). That's rather big deal.
it's sad how LG went from being the fastest to update their phones to now one of the slowest. I remember getting Lollipop, Marshmallow, and Nougat so quickly on the G4, G5, and V10. Now LG is slower than Samsung, which is the worst/slowest updater. Samsung re-released Oreo for the S8 in Europe. Oreo was released 6 months ago (August 21, 2017). Google will announce Android P before we get Oreo on the G6. I guess LG's restructuring of the cell phone department deprioritized OS updates in addition to annual device releases.
HKSpeed said:
it's sad how LG went from being the fastest to update their phones to now one of the slowest. I remember getting Lollipop, Marshmallow, and Nougat so quickly on the G4, G5, and V10. Now LG is slower than Samsung, which is the worst/slowest updater. Samsung re-released Oreo for the S8 in Europe. Oreo was released 6 months ago (August 21, 2017). Google will announce Android P before we get Oreo on the G6. I guess LG's restructuring of the cell phone department deprioritized OS updates in addition to annual device releases.
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Samsung still slow, they have so many problems with Oreo
https://www.gsmarena.com/heres_why_samsung_stopped_the_oreo_update_for_the_galaxy_s8-news-29645.php
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Today (21 feb) Google has launched a new program called Android Enterprise Recommended. It's a way for businesses to easily choose Android devices to deploy for their employees. To be Android Enterprise Recommended, a handset has to adhere to a strict set of rules.
It must run Android 7.0 Nougat or later, offer zero-touch enrollment with bulk deployment to employees, get the latest security patches within 90 days of their release for a minimum of three years, be available unlocked, and offer a consistent app experience in managed profiles and on managed devices.
Furthermore, it must come with a minimum of 2GB of RAM and 32GB of storage, a 1.4 GHz processor, 8+ hours of active battery life, a 10 MP main camera and 2 MP selfie shooter, and be updated to at least one major new Android version.
To start things off, the Android Enterprise Recommended list of devices comprises the following: Google's Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, and Pixel 2 XL; the BlackBerry Keyone and Motion; Huawei's Mate 10, Mate 10 Pro, P10, P10 Plus, P10 Lite, and P smart; LG's V30 and G6; the Moto X4 and Z2; the Nokia 8; Sony's Xperia XZ1, XZ1 Compact, XZ Premium, XA2, and XA2 Ultra.
As you can see, it's not all flagships, there are a few mid-rangers for eager enterprises to choose from too. More phones should be added to the list in the coming weeks and months. Google says that by the end of the year it will also apply the Android Enterprise Recommended framework to OEMs of dedicated and rugged devices, mobile carriers, enterprise mobility management providers, and systems integrators.
The company is probably hoping to entice device makers with this program to adhere to its rules and thus be featured on the brand new Android Enterprise Recommended website, something that will hopefully lead to more sales of those models.
https://www.android.com/enterprise/recommended/
Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
kenturky said:
Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
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There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153
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Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
bigbadwolf_pig said:
There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153View attachment 5614611
Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
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They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
Mackmiller974 said:
They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
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Ah, I thought they were blacklisted too. My bad.
AndyYan said:
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
That's a shame, I was also considering this phone as it marks all my checkboxes.
But if BL won't be unlockable, and reading the Axon 30 issues with no updating SO, and SO full of bugs...I shall pass
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
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Sorry I'm late. Yes it's a shame that ZTE stopped bootloader unlocking for their Axon phones. The phone would've been great had they allowed it.
Fortunately, the Vivo X70 Pro Plus has an unlockable bootloader, and I'm hoping the X80 Pro Plus gets the same too. The X80 pro already has some great features and the Pro Plus which will probably be released with Snapdragon 8+G1 and possibly a larger battery, say 5000 mah with the same 80w charging.
Vivo barely allows bootloader unlocking for their previous phones. I hope they allow bootloader unlocking by default for their new high end phones.
Vivo x70 Pro+ Bootloader Unlock - HOW TO GUIDE
THIS GLITCH HAS BEEN FIXED AS OF MAY 2022. IF YOUR FIRMWARE IS PAST THAT SECURITY LEVEL YOU CAN NOT OPEN THE BOOTLOADER ANYMORE. WARNING! THIS IS EXPERIMENTAL, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE WE CAN GO FROM HERE. THIS MIGHT BREAK YOUR DEVICE!!! UNLOCKING...
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Hello,
I dont really know where to begin here so, hopefully someone on here can help. I have the ZTE Axon 40 Ultra, the Chinese version. I flashed android 13 beta 1 on the phone but, it has no google apps on it at all. I downloaded google play services apk, Google Play store and Gmail. None of them seem to work and it sounds like it all has to do with play services. Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
How to make applications ignore the under-screen camera. The screen in games constantly shifts below the under-screen camera area. In the developer options in the zte axon 40 ultra, I did not find such an option to fix this. Maybe someone knows how to help me?
Damn, its 21 june already and only 6 post about 40U, looks like its kinda hopless to wait any root solution. Since then ZTE started giving zer0 f..k about community? I had Nubia Z11 there was a lot of people around that time, now its desert.
I will get my Axon 40 Ultra tomorrow. Is there anyone else with this wonderful phone?
I´d love to get it, but still no sure about the software, please dont hesitate to share your impressions
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
Iluminatus23 said:
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
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I will! And I will get the chinese version!
Why not the Global Edition?
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
Iluminatus23 said:
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
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Which UI languages are present? How good is English locale?
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
Iluminatus23 said:
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
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About the cameras, worse or better than your Vivo X80 pro?
That is Not an easy question. I would say Tele and night shots are a little Bit better in the X80 Pro but Not so much. Portraits are perhaps better on the ZTE....