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The lack of information on apt-X is ridiculous but I finally found something. According to the apt-X website, no current Sony devices support this protocol. This means that for any of you audiophiles like me, achieving the best sound quality on Sony devices is presently limited to wired headphones. This doesn't apply to headsets such as the Sony wireless headset pro, as pointed out by mrsatan. Just thought I'd share.
http://www.csr.com/technology-solutions/av/audio-products-powered-by-csr-aptx
johnbyebye said:
The lack of information on apt-X is ridiculous but I finally found something. According to the apt-X website, no current Sony devices support this protocol. This means that for any of you audiophiles like me, achieving the best sound quality on Sony devices is presently limited to wired headphones. Just thought I'd share.
http://www.csr.com/technology-solutions/av/audio-products-powered-by-csr-aptx
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My sony bluetooth headphones use wolfson audio decoder which is arguably the best decoder around. I really dont understand what the big deal is with apt-X. Obviously there is some with hardware chips but it looks like their main draw is with software, which can be good or bad, Sony sound optimization is really good on Xperia S. They basically look like another vendor like Wolfson but I have never heard of them. Wolfson is awesome as **** when it comes to audio quality and my headphones are really good.
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My sony bluetooth headphones use wolfson audio decoder which is arguably the best decoder around. I really dont understand what the big deal is with apt-X. Obviously there is some with hardware chips but it looks like their main draw is with software, which can be good or bad, Sony sound optimization is really good on Xperia S. They basically look like another vendor like Wolfson but I have never heard of them. Wolfson is awesome as **** when it comes to audio quality and my headphones are really good.
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From what I understand the Wolfson DAC is hardware based in the phone, not in the Bluetooth transmitters/receivers. Bluetooth uses an entirely different protocol/codec to stream audio.. Once you stream via Bluetooth there is distortion. Not everyone notices it, but I do, and that could pertain to the type of music I listen to. That's why apt-X support is a better choice for some since distortion is eliminated. To each their own.
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From what I understand the Wolfson DAC is hardware based in the phone, not in the Bluetooth transmitters/receivers. Bluetooth uses an entirely different protocol/codec to stream audio.. Once you stream via Bluetooth there is distortion. Not everyone notices it, but I do, and that could pertain to the type of music I listen to. That's why apt-X support is a better choice for some since distortion is eliminated. To each their own.
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The wireless headset pro use Wolfson DAC since it is a standalone mp3 player as well. It definitely uses it even when streaming from the phone because their is a quality difference. There is no distortion on it because it doesnt decode before it streams it to bluetooth. I am a member of Head-fi.com and I remember before I bought the device we figured out what dac it was using and that influenced many to buy it. We were pleasantly suprised to see it using such a high quality dac.
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The wireless headset pro use Wolfson DAC since it is a standalone mp3 player as well. It definitely uses it even when streaming from the phone because their is a quality difference. There is no distortion on it because it doesnt decode before it streams it to bluetooth. I am a member of Head-fi.com and I remember before I bought the device we figured out what dac it was using and that influenced many to buy it. We were pleasantly suprised to see it using such a high quality dac.
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Lol, this thread is in reference to stereo headsets that rely solely on the Bluetooth protocol so it wouldn't apply to the Sony wireless headset pro or similar devices.
Now I kinda want one of these Sony wireless headsets so I can keep my Sony phone, lol.
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Lol, this thread is in reference to stereo headsets that rely solely on the Bluetooth protocol so it wouldn't apply to the Sony wireless headset pro or similar devices.
Now I kinda want one of these Sony wireless headsets so I can keep my Sony phone, lol.
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Yeah but you said no Sony products so I brought it up. I love my wireless headset.
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mrsatan said:
Yeah but you said no Sony products so I brought it up. I love my wireless headset.
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No current Sony products support apt-X. Your smart wireless headset still doesn't support it despite the conversation we just had, lol. That was the only point of my creating this thread.
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No current Sony products support apt-X. Your smart wireless headset still doesn't support it despite the conversation we just had, lol. That was the only point of my creating this thread.
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if only we had an accessories section to discuss accessories. we should go and ask the admins
Also sad to see apt-x missing. It's a major buying factor for my next phone.
I have several bluetooth speakers that support it, so my next phone will.
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Also sad to see apt-x missing. It's a major buying factor for my next phone.
I have several bluetooth speakers that support it, so my next phone will.
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I'm hoping future Sony products support it. There are a few different aptx-enabled BT headphones that I'm looking into buying. I currently have the Samsung HS3000 and wired earbuds but I want to go completely wireless.
Hey everyone!
I'm looking for a stick PC in the $70 price range. I do not want a box or puck. My main concerns are WiFi and Bluetooth. Multiple USB ports is a welcome addition. I've read about the MK808b, MK809 II and the Neo G4. I'd like to know if there is any better alternative that provides stable wifi. That is my first priority and I don't mind sacrificing Bluetooth. I definitely want a MicroSD card slot, not TF slot. Also, I don't mind tinkering with the stick, though I'd like it rooted out of the box. I don't necessarily want custom ROM support. And yes, it should be a minimum of 2 cores.
In points:
1) Stick, not box
2) Stable WiFi
3) MicroSD
4) Bluetooth (OPTIONAL)
5) Multiple USB Ports (OPTIONAL, but minimum 1)
6) Rootable, or pre rooted.
7) Ability to connect a USB Hub, if there's only one port.
Looking forward to some great suggestions from the community!
Probox 2
I also came across the Probox 2 Ultimate that seems to be a very good alternative, although a bit more expensive. It also comes with an air mouse. But it is out of stock almost everywhere.
so can anyone suggest a decent air mouse too? I'm really looking forward to buying one of these..
Feedback
Do someone has any feedback in regards Rikomagic MK802IIIS Bluetooth ??
In amazon says is a new 2013 version, FCC compliant.
I would recommend the Minix Neo G4...
I have just ordered the G5 box because I wanted the extra usb ports etc.. And Bluetooth.
This was on the strength of my friend demonstrating his G4 and mk808. The G4 was an awesome machine for such a tiny box.
I couldn't see much difference in performance against my galaxy s3.
Have fun playing with your new toy when you decide which one to go for.
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I ordered the Minix Neo X5. It excellent build quality and a ton of ports. and it has a lot of support on the web from Minix and there's forums out there too. You can root and put a custom rom. Out of the box it does now output full HD though. It up converts 720p. The Finless ROM does force full HD, but it shouldn't claim it does full HD. I ended up returning mine when I started thinking how close other better options are coming, t if you need one right now this is the best probably as far as features go.
Pretty much any one will be awesome to play with. I'm waiting for the Onya simply because I like the multiple controller support out of the box.
Curious about the comment about the G5 and the MK808/G4 comparison. What did the G4 do that the MK808 was lacking (obviously Bluetooth)?
But these are awesome little TV companions. YouTube, internet, Netflix, Hulu, emulators, games, etc. Lots of options.
I personally have an MK808 and it runs everything I've thrown at it mostly games / light video. I can't recommend the bluetoothless model with the MK808B out now. Lots of devs working on it.
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If I were you I would wait a couple of weeks more for the new Rikomagic Quad-Core stick!!!
Hopefully they got rid of all the WiFi problems in the previous models, and the software upgrades and community support is pretty good!
Check the specs here:
Code:
rikomagic.com/en/news/shownews_id_22_nid_5.html
Also, if you use Skype a lot, you might want to consider a stick with a built-in camera, like the Kimdecent B12!
Code:
kimdecent.com/minipc/125.html
I'm now personally waiting for the Ouya as well after returning my Minix X5. I started thinking I will get an Ouya anyway and then any other Android box will collect dusk. Also, for the simple fact that you can use a controller out of the box to control everything without any troubleshooting or workarounds. and is guaranteed to have more support than ANY other TV box. If you absolutely need an Android stick right now, get a cheap one $50 or less, because you'll surely want the Ouya once it's out for only $99 with a controller, full HD and tons of support.
My minix x5 arrived a couple of days ago and I am delighted with it so far. .. I can appreciate the appeal of the Ouya especially for someone not comfortable with rooting, flashing, fiddling etc. But if the x4 is as good as this but in a stick form then I stand by my original recommendation.
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I'm now personally waiting for the Ouya as well after returning my Minix X5. I started thinking I will get an Ouya anyway and then any other Android box will collect dusk. Also, for the simple fact that you can use a controller out of the box to control everything without any troubleshooting or workarounds. and is guaranteed to have more support than ANY other TV box. If you absolutely need an Android stick right now, get a cheap one $50 or less, because you'll surely want the Ouya once it's out for only $99 with a controller, full HD and tons of support.
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Like you I'm very interested in Ouya but my fear is that you will be locked into only the apps/channels they offer. Of course it will be rooted in time but I'm looking for something that will allow me to watch all of the streaming companies such as Netflix, Hulu, Directv Everywhere, HBOGo, etc. Playing better games with the support they will offer is great but it will be interesting to see how locked down it will be.
Also I'm curious to see how GameStick goes once it releases in a few weeks.
Me too...:thumbup:
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For those of you wondering about the ouya....
http://www.ouya.tv
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Do someone has any feedback in regards Rikomagic MK802IIIS Bluetooth ??
In amazon says is a new 2013 version, FCC compliant.
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I purchased one of this and arrives me last week.
Its a good device, fast, cheap, and a good support.
before this, i haved a mk802, and the difference between 2 devices is quite significant
I recommend this device (MK802lllS + BT)
Cheers
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P.D.2 : if you need to know something specific, let me know
Hello everyone,
I thought as this is probably the largest tech forum out there, their was a very good chance that some fellow members would know lots about playing music files on tablets e.t.c.?:good:
I have many high quality 24/96 music files and for a time i used variouse Amp/Dacs on my old DELL Studio laptopI have tried to find out how if/how this would work with a TABLET and specifically the Xperia z?
Now if I have understood correctly It is possible to use an attached external amp with Android tablets but not a DAC owing to something with kernal
If anyone as any up to date feedback on the DAC/AMP Question I would be very interested to hear,I am no expert in these things,quite the opposite in fact.
Any help very much appreciated
Regards Steve:highfive:
Mine works great with my Wadia as a dac and volume control
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Hi, I've tested with my Fiio E17 DAC& and I can confirm it works via USB Audio using a USB OTG cable.
Superb news re DAC/AMPs for ANDROID!
Good day Guys
That is really brilliant news,the fact some DAC/AMPs work with ANDROID devices:highfive:
I have spent a very long time trying to get a definitive answer on this question and all I did get was more questions? and a lot of complex debate....Revolving around the ANDROID KERNAL??so the Wadia dac/amp and Fiio E17work as intended as Dac amps?
I for one would like to hear more on this,so if you wish to elaborate further I would be very grateful
Regards Steve:good:
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Hi, I've tested with my Fiio E17 DAC& and I can confirm it works via USB Audio using a USB OTG cable.
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Good day Guys
That is really brilliant news,the fact some DAC/AMPs work with ANDROID devices:highfive:
I have spent a very long time trying to get a definitive answer on this question and all I did get was more questions? and a lot of complex debate....Revolving around the ANDROID KERNAL??so the Wadia dac/amp and Fiio E17work as intended as Dac amps?
I for one would like to hear more on this,so if you wish to elaborate further I would be very grateful
Regards Steve:good:
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Yes, my fiio worked both as a dac and an amp.
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Good To hear From You!
Good day kenan3cn
You don`t know how pleased I am to hear that it is indeed possible to us a DAC/AMP with Xperia Tablet
Please can I ask what particular cables you use,as i recall using different types with my laptops some 2 years ago now
and do you use dedicated power supply??(When at your desktop)not on the move!
very best wishes Steve
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Yes, my fiio worked both as a dac and an amp.
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If you mean the OTG cable, it is just a common cable bought off Amazon, it then connects to the compatible USB data cable, in my case a USB-USB Mini cable, and then the DAC itself. The fiio has built-in battery and can only be charged via USB, you can either power it with the tablet's battery though it drains fast, or turn off USB charging and go with its own battery provided it has already been charged. I have never used a desktop DAC unit so unfortunately I won't be able to answer any question about that
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norsk1 said:
Good day kenan3cn
You don`t know how pleased I am to hear that it is indeed possible to us a DAC/AMP with Xperia Tablet
Please can I ask what particular cables you use,as i recall using different types with my laptops some 2 years ago now
and do you use dedicated power supply??(When at your desktop)not on the move!
very best wishes Steve
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As far as I'm concerned if your dac has usb input then you are good to go!
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OTG Cable?
Hi Again
many thanks for your reply,much appreciated;
I am not very tech-minded as you can tell I suppose I was just wondering if adding better cables helped overhaul sound qulity? it`s a very subjective thing I know.What is an OTG cable please? sorry to be so dum
Regards Steve:good:
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If you mean the OTG cable, it is just a common cable bought off Amazon, it then connects to the compatible USB data cable, in my case a USB-USB Mini cable, and then the DAC itself. The fiio has built-in battery and can only be charged via USB, you can either power it with the tablet's battery though it drains fast, or turn off USB charging and go with its own battery provided it has already been charged. I have never used a desktop DAC unit so unfortunately I won't be able to answer any question about that
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As far as I'm concerned if your dac has usb input then you are good to go!
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norsk1 said:
Hi Again
many thanks for your reply,much appreciated;
I am not very tech-minded as you can tell I suppose I was just wondering if adding better cables helped overhaul sound qulity? it`s a very subjective thing I know.What is an OTG cable please? sorry to be so dum
Regards Steve:good:
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No worries. Here's a picture of a USB OTG cable:
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And here's something to read about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
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norsk1 said:
Hi Again
many thanks for your reply,much appreciated;
I am not very tech-minded as you can tell I suppose I was just wondering if adding better cables helped overhaul sound qulity? it`s a very subjective thing I know.What is an OTG cable please? sorry to be so dum
Regards Steve:good:
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To read about replacement cables and other hi-fi stuff, I suggest you have a look at a forum called Head-fi: http://www.head-fi.org
many thanks!
Hi
That`s great,many thanks I know which cable to buy now.
I am a long time member of the haed fi forum,but I do not always find it easy on there,must admit,sometimes it just gets so bogged down,in mines bigger than yours e.t.c.
all the best Steve:good:
kenan3cn said:
No worries. Here's a picture of a USB OTG cable:
And here's something to read about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
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To read about replacement cables and other hi-fi stuff, I suggest you have a look at a forum called Head-fi: http://www.head-fi.org
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Wadia
norsk1 said:
Good day Guys
That is really brilliant news,the fact some DAC/AMPs work with ANDROID devices:highfive:
I have spent a very long time trying to get a definitive answer on this question and all I did get was more questions? and a lot of complex debate....Revolving around the ANDROID KERNAL??so the Wadia dac/amp and Fiio E17work as intended as Dac amps?
I for one would like to hear more on this,so if you wish to elaborate further I would be very grateful
Regards Steve:good:
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I am using my Xperia Tablet Z through a wifi connection with Logitech Squeezebox app, controlling a hardwired lan Touch that is connected to my Wadia usingTransparent Reference coax to my Audio Research Classic 150 Mono blocks via Valhalla speaker cables to my Magneplaner 3.6r's - IT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE!!! - I also did root my Touch, and applied some tweaks that have helped the digital stream immensely. The Wadia/Transparent/Valhalla is definitely not a budget solution, however being able to wireless stream my MOG, or Pandora and have it sound as good as a redbook cd played on my Wadia is incredible.. If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask.
Good day TGAMO;
Really good to hear from you.
That set up of yours sounds like a beast!:highfive:
my audio-ambitions are not so grand,more`s the pity!
I just needed to know that at least your wadia & the fiio e17 will work as intended as an amp/ dac?
before today, I got lots of complex feedback [Elsewhere] about Android kernals and the like totally confused me,i must say.
Do we know if any other make of AMP/DAC works with Xperia z tablet? just a thought
best wishes Steve:good:
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I am using my Xperia Tablet Z through a wifi connection with Logitech Squeezebox app, controlling a hardwired lan Touch that is connected to my Wadia usingTransparent Reference coax to my Audio Research Classic 150 Mono blocks via Valhalla speaker cables to my Magneplaner 3.6r's - IT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE!!! - I also did root my Touch, and applied some tweaks that have helped the digital stream immensely. The Wadia/Transparent/Valhalla is definitely not a budget solution, however being able to wireless stream my MOG, or Pandora and have it sound as good as a redbook cd played on my Wadia is incredible.. If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask.
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Good day TGAMO;
Really good to hear from you.
That set up of yours sounds like a beast!:highfive:
my audio-ambitions are not so grand,more`s the pity!
I just needed to know that at least your wadia & the fiio e17 will work as intended as an amp/ dac?
before today, I got lots of complex feedback [Elsewhere] about Android kernals and the like totally confused me,i must say.
Do we know if any other make of AMP/DAC works with Xperia z tablet? just a thought
best wishes Steve:good:
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Steve,
I think you have confused the postings I have the Wadia - another poster has the fiio - If you intend on directly plugging in your tablet to your device - you should research the type of device it is, and if it will support external memory cards via the USB input on the device, essentially that is all you are doing - using your tablet as a memory stick. I am not exactly sure of your intentions as there are many ways to make it work. Perhaps you could be more specific, as with audio specifics are necessary.
Regards
Will try to be clear
Hi again
no mix up,I know the Wadia is yours I said your Wadia and fiio 17
sorry if am not being clear enough.
I am hoping to do exactly the same as I did with my laptops,and that is use external DAC/ AMP to bypass on board Dac of TABELT + better sound all around Hopefully.You say may ways to make it work? I would be most interested to hear of the best way to make it work if you have the time? I have reserched several well known amp dacs and have received mixed replies as to can they be used with Android TABLETS full stop not only Xperai z,? folk were telling me there dacs do not woirk with tablets or I need to perform open heart surgery on the Android kernal e.t.c.
Yes I wish to connect an external dac/Amp to the Xperia and be able to play my 24/96 files in quality audio
Please keep the good advcie coming
regards Steve:good:
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Steve,
I think you have confused the postings I have the Wadia - another poster has the fiio - If you intend on directly plugging in your tablet to your device - you should research the type of device it is, and if it will support external memory cards via the USB input on the device, essentially that is all you are doing - using your tablet as a memory stick. I am not exactly sure of your intentions as there are many ways to make it work. Perhaps you could be more specific, as with audio specifics are necessary.
Regards
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norsk1 said:
Good day TGAMO;
Really good to hear from you.
That set up of yours sounds like a beast!:highfive:
my audio-ambitions are not so grand,more`s the pity!
I just needed to know that at least your wadia & the fiio e17 will work as intended as an amp/ dac?
before today, I got lots of complex feedback [Elsewhere] about Android kernals and the like totally confused me,i must say.
Do we know if any other make of AMP/DAC works with Xperia z tablet? just a thought
best wishes Steve:good:
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norsk1 said:
Hi again
no mix up,I know the Wadia is yours I said your Wadia and fiio 17
sorry if am not being clear enough.
I am hoping to do exactly the same as I did with my laptops,and that is use external DAC/ AMP to bypass on board Dac of TABELT + better sound all around Hopefully.You say may ways to make it work? I would be most interested to hear of the best way to make it work if you have the time? I have reserched several well known amp dacs and have received mixed replies as to can they be used with Android TABLETS full stop not only Xperai z,? folk were telling me there dacs do not woirk with tablets or I need to perform open heart surgery on the Android kernal e.t.c.
Yes I wish to connect an external dac/Amp to the Xperia and be able to play my 24/96 files in quality audio
Please keep the good advcie coming
regards Steve:good:
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Maybe that is what you meant - it is not what was typed - Please see in bold above. - Also as far as your tablet is concerned - you need some type of interface between your tablet and the dac - try finding an old Logitech squeeze box - they are cheap (less than 50.00 used) and work very well.
lighten up !
Hi but why make a point about it?
your interpretation of what i wrote and meant ..but man it`s no big deal is it?
simple misunderstanding Your WADIA and the fiio not your WADIA & your fiio?
I am English and most folk would not bat an eyelid at what I wrote.
whats this about interfaces??don1t understand why you need a squeezbox,why can`t the dac/amp just link to the tablet? maybe others on the forum may have some additional information
Steve
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Maybe that is what you meant - it is not what was typed - Please see in bold above. - Also as far as your tablet is concerned - you need some type of interface between your tablet and the dac - try finding an old Logitech squeeze box - they are cheap (less than 50.00 used) and work very well.
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I think connecting a DAC to a smartphone/tablet for just listening to music is NOT a practical solution. Because who wants a tablet with cables dangling around? A tablet is for being carried freely around and connecting wirelessly.
So much better is to use the tablet just as a controller for a music playing device.
In this regard of course there are different solutions (Logitech media server / renderers, DLNA, MPD ...). I have a Raspberry Pi with Squeezelite and a USB soundcard that renders music of a Logitech media server on my NAS, for example.) The app "Squeeze Commander" on the tablet controls all that. Works flawlessly.
Only useful application for DAC directly on tablet is recording - using the tablet as mobile DAW.
hasenbein1966
Good of you to contribute to the thread,and of course you are quite entitled to your view.but remember folk, including some who have also contributed to this thread use DAC/AMPs withe xperia Tablet,and I suspect,but don`t know for sure, they also,as you say carry their tablets around freely,so they have the best of both worlds i think.
As far as a controller for music devices,well must admit to knowing very little about such things,and I can not comment.I must investigate all this area as you kindly outlined.
I have investigated this amp/dac qustion elsewhere and their does appear to be a significant minority getting involved in the Dac amp with tablet thing.and I am learning a little more each day.Speaking personally my new Xperia will rarely leave the house as I am confined much of the time..so for me cables and the like are not really a problem..and if the addition of a Dac/Amp to my tablet will give something like the improvements that I got from my laptop + dac/Amp set ups set up then I will be well pleased.
all the best Steve:good:
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I think connecting a DAC to a smartphone/tablet for just listening to music is NOT a practical solution. Because who wants a tablet with cables dangling around? A tablet is for being carried freely around and connecting wirelessly.
So much better is to use the tablet just as a controller for a music playing device.
In this regard of course there are different solutions (Logitech media server / renderers, DLNA, MPD ...). I have a Raspberry Pi with Squeezelite and a USB soundcard that renders music of a Logitech media server on my NAS, for example.) The app "Squeeze Commander" on the tablet controls all that. Works flawlessly.
Only useful application for DAC directly on tablet is recording - using the tablet as mobile DAW.
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I think standard USB DAC is compatible since I can use Tablet Z with my fiio E17 without problem.
Interesting reply?
Hello :good:Fishmanzero
Really good to hear from you,and i thank you for letting me know that the FIIO E17 works with Xperia z
I am reliably informed that FIIO is okay in general and other android supported DACs are in the pipeline from both FIIO and other makers?one slight problem which as being flagged up is a bit of a compatability issue with ANDROID 4.2? I think problems reported e.t.c.but things at least seem to be looking better for ANDROID in the long term.
Regards Steve:good:
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I think standard USB DAC is compatible since I can use Tablet Z with my fiio E17 without problem.
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Sooo, i bought the small but powerful K1 yesterday but I couldn't figure out how the K1 will work with my Nexus 6. I've connected it via OTG and it got recognised but yeah no sound came out of it :crying:. So I connected a passive USB Hub to the OTG cable. I can't say why but connected to the hub the K1 worked fine.
This isn't a great solution for me, has someone got the K1 working without a USB hub? Which USB DAC's are working for you?
the FiiO Q1 works with N6 like charm. I got the K1 and it's not working as well (not enough power to drive the amp I guess)
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the FiiO Q1 works with N6 like charm. I got the K1 and it's not working as well (not enough power to drive the amp I guess)
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Thinking about getting the Q1. Would you recommend it to me? I have never even used a DAC before but I'm starting to become a bit of an audiophile after discovering ViPER...
matthew2926 said:
Thinking about getting the Q1. Would you recommend it to me? I have never even used a DAC before but I'm starting to become a bit of an audiophile after discovering ViPER...
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on that price point? yeah, absolutely!
but here's the thing. Audio is not just about the DAC-AMP and then you got that sound you always wanted. Q1 is bit warm and smooth (K1 as well) and it's a perfect match for vocals and instruments (and maybe some other genre).
and there's the IEM/Headphone/Earphone factor again..
mflow said:
on that price point? yeah, absolutely!
but here's the thing. Audio is not just about the DAC-AMP and then you got that sound you always wanted. Q1 is bit warm and smooth (K1 as well) and it's a perfect match for vocals and instruments (and maybe some other genre).
and there's the IEM/Headphone/Earphone factor again..
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Yea, also looking to pick up a pair of Sennheiser CX300 II soon. I take it Skullcandy is not a very "audiophile" brand Also, I'm running the stock ViPERAtmos package which, in my noob opinion, is pushing some pretty good sound when I have ViPER Clarity and the Dolby Atmos active equalizer going.
matthew2926 said:
Yea, also looking to pick up a pair of Sennheiser CX300 II soon. I take it Skullcandy is not a very "audiophile" brand Also, I'm running the stock ViPERAtmos package which, in my noob opinion, is pushing some pretty good sound when I have ViPER Clarity and the Dolby Atmos active equalizer going.
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CX300 ii 's a good pick for bass! I had the chance to try one few years back and it was "good".
I'm no "Viper" kind of guy or those kind of "sound enhancement" but if you enjoy having enhancements, why not
mflow said:
CX300 ii 's a good pick for bass! I had the chance to try one few years back and it was "good".
I'm no "Viper" kind of guy or those kind of "sound enhancement" but if you enjoy having enhancements, why not
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What would you personally recommend me considering that my total upgrade budget is around $150? I was thinking $150 would get me the Fiio and the Sennheisers but you sound like you know what you're talking about, so I would love to get your opinion on how I should upgrade!
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Also, I stream from Spotify. Thought you should know that.
The TEAC-HA-p50 works very well.
matthew2926 said:
What would you personally recommend me considering that my total upgrade budget is around $150? I was thinking $150 would get me the Fiio and the Sennheisers but you sound like you know what you're talking about, so I would love to get your opinion on how I should upgrade!
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Also, I stream from Spotify. Thought you should know that.
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My recommendation would be..
I am not sure about how much this will cost you but i got this for $30 : http://sea.audio-technica.com/products/headphones/lifestyle/all-earphones/ath-ck330is . It is a fun, all arounder IEM and great for the budget.
for the DAC.. I think the K1 would be enough if you're listening from a laptop. But if you don't really mind carrying extra DAC-AMP for portable uses, the Q1 will serve you well.
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but hey, if you do have access to local headphone store, go on and try what they have in offer(audition, as i love to call it). Who knows that you will find better deal there right?
mflow said:
My recommendation would be..
I am not sure about how much this will cost you but i got this for $30 : http://sea.audio-technica.com/products/headphones/lifestyle/all-earphones/ath-ck330is . It is a fun, all arounder IEM and great for the budget.
for the DAC.. I think the K1 would be enough if you're listening from a laptop. But if you don't really mind carrying extra DAC-AMP for portable uses, the Q1 will serve you well.
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but hey, if you do have access to local headphone store, go on and try what they have in offer(audition, as i love to call it). Who knows that you will find better deal there right?
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I have a Best Buy near me but it seems like they only sell name brands rather than HiFi brands.
matthew2926 said:
I have a Best Buy near me but it seems like they only sell name brands rather than HiFi brands.
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I guess you'll need to visit this one then! http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-introduction
mflow said:
I guess you'll need to visit this one then! http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-introduction
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Thank you so much for that link!
FiiO E10K also works like a charm. I supose E18 must work too, because it's battery powered.
I have an AudioQuest Dragon Fly that works great. I also use USB Player Pro to play hi-fi flac files from place like HDTracks.
sebavit said:
FiiO E10K also works like a charm. I supose E18 must work too, because it's battery powered.
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Strangest thing is that E10K works well with N6, while the even smaller K1 does not. My E17 (not 17K) used to be working very well too!
cmh714 said:
I have an AudioQuest Dragon Fly that works great. I also use USB Player Pro to play hi-fi flac files from place like HDTracks.
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AQ Dragonfly is nice! but it's bit expensive
Schiit Modi 2 / Magni 2 Uber work as well.
mflow said:
Strangest thing is that E10K works well with N6, while the even smaller K1 does not. My E17 (not 17K) used to be working very well too!
AQ Dragonfly is nice! but it's bit expensive
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Is the K1 working on any phones? I think it is a driver/kerner problem, not a power supply one...
matthew2926 said:
I have a Best Buy near me but it seems like they only sell name brands rather than HiFi brands.
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Before you go buy a dac or amp you might want to do some research from head fi.
The dac on the nexus is aight but it pushes little power for a portable device.
matthew2926 said:
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I returned mine..didn't make that much of an improvement.
USB HUB
Pfostenwischer said:
Sooo, i bought the small but powerful K1 yesterday but I couldn't figure out how the K1 will work with my Nexus 6. I've connected it via OTG and it got recognised but yeah no sound came out of it :crying:. So I connected a passive USB Hub to the OTG cable. I can't say why but connected to the hub the K1 worked fine.
This isn't a great solution for me, has someone got the K1 working without a USB hub? Which USB DAC's are working for you?
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Did you use a direct micro USB hub or a normal USB hub connected via a micro USB to USB cable? Also is the USB hub USB 2.0 or 3.0?
so far i'm really liking this phone. however, there are a couple things i wish were a little different:
1) i wish it had a dedicated, not-behind-the-screen fingerprint sensor (one thing my old LG did right).
2) i wish it supported apt-x hd for use with my (non-sony) wireless headphones.
so, i went looking for a solution to #2. for now, it appears that samsung just doesn't support apt-x hd-- and future official support is looking somewhere between doubtful and hopeless. additionally, i have a us version; my bootloader is locked and there does not appear to be a feasible software solution to the problem without root.
however, i stumbled onto this: creative bt-w3. i ordered it today and most likely won't have my hands on it for another week, buti wanted to make this post to:
--let people know about this possible solution to a vexing problem
--solicit any feedback or reviews, in case someone has already received one.
thanks for reading.
Vexing? This is vexing?
I just use LDAC, it's better than APT-X HD...
The Note9 when came out with Oreo, it had AptXHD then it was removed with Android Pie.
Now, after complaining, they out back AptX yet no HD support or HiRes audio support.
Seems Samsung is all about gimmicks but not audio.
The Dolby Atmos is crap if someone wants to defend them, try the Dolby Atmos on a Xbox One, then try the Samsung version and it's just an equalizer setting.
I'm currently saving for the Xperia phone, I'm done with Samsung.
Hey zagtastic, did you get this creative device working on your phone? I'm curious if it did in fact work for you. I'm looking into getting an S20 5G and was surprised by the lack of aptx-hd support on the specs.
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I just use LDAC, it's better than APT-X HD...
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If memory serves me correctly it's not; AptX-HD has better overall audio qualities. LDAC is the next best.
Even rooting won't give you AptX-HD; all these latter generation Samsung's lack the hardware support for this codec.
Sammy boned us proper...
Bump, so does this thing work on a Samsung?
My Soundpeats TrueAir 2 buds sound bloody awesome with Dolby on but also running Poweramp. If anything they sound better than they were on my Mi10T Pro that has Apt-x built in.
roaduardo said:
Vexing? This is vexing?
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No. whats vexing is buying the Note 20 Ultra 5G "unlocked" from Best Buy at $1300 only to realize it is still impossible to unlock the bootloader despite "right to repair". I will never buy another Galaxy or any other overpriced, overgoverned Samdung product. I should have bought another OnePlus. The lack of Apt-X is irritating but not a problem Id call "vexing" when there are so many other complaints that dwarf it.
Any Bluetooth codec will never be as good as a wired set of headphones anyway, UAPP or Poweramp output to 1 More or Similar in ears will sound a lot better, (inexpensively)
blackhawk said:
If memory serves me correctly it's not; AptX-HD has better overall audio qualities. LDAC is the next best.
Even rooting won't give you AptX-HD; all these latter generation Samsung's lack the hardware support for this codec.
Sammy boned us proper...
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My ultra has aptX. It's in the developer section. Turn on HD audio and you can select it.
pvcdroid said:
My ultra has aptX. It's in the developer section. Turn on HD audio and you can select it.
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SSC is a better choice for Samsung Buds, etc. then APTX. Sample it...
blackhawk said:
If memory serves me correctly it's not; AptX-HD has better overall audio qualities. LDAC is the next best.
Even rooting won't give you AptX-HD; all these latter generation Samsung's lack the hardware support for this codec.
Sammy boned us proper...
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LDAC streams at a max of 990kbps, translating to a sample rate of 96kHz and a bit depth of 24 bits while APTXhd stops at 48 kHz.
So LDAC is the top one followed by APTXhd
corbalan12 said:
LDAC streams at a max of 990kbps, translating to a sample rate of 96kHz and a bit depth of 24 bits while APTXhd stops at 48 kHz.
So LDAC is the top one followed by APTXhd
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If you bt device doesn't support LDAC but its a Samsung bt that supports SCC that's probably the next best choice.
APTX HD is off the table useless it's hardware supported to begin with. Samsung does not support it.