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Hi
Just brought an 02 XDA off Ebay. I knew the thing was faulty, got it for £35!!
Anyway, i brought a usb charging cable and plugged it in. The XDA loads up fine and seems to work ok. However, when i disconnect the cable it turns itself off!
The XDA cannot be switched on without the usb lead being plugged in!
I took it apart and noticed that there is only one (what seems like) capacitor on the board (its kind of orange/red and 5mm squared). There is a picture of what i'm trying to describe on the "naked pictures of the XDA" on this site titled "inside 2"!
If you look closely at the picture you will see them at the top of the xda near the aerial (there are 2 in the picture). It seems like someone has de-soldered one off this xda too judging by the excess solder on the right hand pin.
Why does my xda has 1 of these components? The one on mine is located to the far right, the one in the picture has one on the left and one in the centre but nothing on the right.
COULD THIS BE THE PROBLEM?????
My xda spec:
Radio Version: v4.21
ROM Version: 3.14.13 ENG
ROM Date: 10/09/02
Protocol Version: 32S54
Thanks in advance guys
P.s just ugraded the software version to 3.17. Stll having the above problem though!
Best Regards
Mark James
Maybe it's the battery
Hi guys
Just put a multimeter on the battery and its kicking out 3.3volts. However this figure will drop down to 0 if i leave it for a while.
Do you think the battery could be completely dead? Would this cause it not to switch on but run ok on the power feed from the usb?
where is the cheapest place i could get a new battery from?
Many thanks for your time
Regards
Mark
Battery Problem?
Someone please help me with my broken XDA.
I might throw it up the wall if I can't get it fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm 95% sure it's the battery at fault, but need help from you professionals in confirming my hypothsis.
Thaaaaaanks people.
MJ
i asume that even when charging the pda use the batt but the batt is at the same time being charged by the cattle at least thats how my laptop does it
so if the batt is 100% dead feeding the device power is not going to make it work
Rudegar said:
i asume that even when charging the pda use the batt but the batt is at the same time being charged by the cattle at least thats how my laptop does it
so if the batt is 100% dead feeding the device power is not going to make it work
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Well, considering this battery is a Li-Ion battery... it works somewhat like a car battery. Even when dead, it will hold a residual charge for a littlebit, than die, such as the tester showed. Being plugged in, the charger puts out between 5v and 6v. More than the battery needs so the battery can stay 'charged' while it is powering the phone at the same time. Unplug it, than the phone goes dead. Ni-Cad batteries and Metal Hydride batteries are On/Off. Ether they have charge or no charge so if your laptop was one of the later two, it would be dead with or without a charger.
I would put my bet that the battery is dead. One bit of advice with a Lithium Ion battery. Just like a car battery you can't let them go completely uncharged. In fact, they LOVE to be charged all the time and it won't hurt them to do so. The XDA has a built in shut off to prevent an overcharge, cutting off the source voltage from what I have seen.
At the very least, order yourself an external battery. After a full charge up, if the unit still has power after you unplug, than you know you need to get a new internal one. If not, than you know something more is wrong with the unit than just a battery being dead and you have an aditional external for the new XDA you get from someplace else!
MisterDollyMaker
Hey guys!
I have a weird issue with my phone, and after doing a bit of research I got a bit pessimistic, so here it is:
When I unplug my phone from the charger, the phone stays in "charging" state, which means the charging icon is there, the battery stats are not shown correctly, I can't plug it into my PC via USB, etc. It also doesn't enter deep sleep, since there is a vbus_present wakelock held, which is normal for charging.
I've read that water damage can be one of the causes, and if I think of it, I did have my phone with me, while I took a long bath. While the phone didn't touch any water, the air humidity was really high , so I could blame this for the issue.
Do you have any suggestions / ideas?
Thanks!
Hello?
My phone is dying here!
Sounds like water damage to me... however sometimes, to my knowledge, the issue can be solved like the fuel_alerted wakelocks: pull battery for a while and reinsert. But I assume you already tried that, so water damage would be my best guess although air humidity shouldn't cause that...
It is the same for me when I dropped my phone into water. However, it is now normal again ( lucky me). For your case, I think it water damaged, I would suggest you dry your phone. Take out the battery, dont use phone for some hour(4-5hrs in my case), dry the phone by whatever you can( I just put in under the sun for 15mins, and put it in a bag of rice). It was 2 days since I got the problem, but now its ok. Just try it.
Hope it helps
P/s: still get some minor problem but I can bear with it though
Fixed ?
Hi,
It seams a bit too laste to answer, but it might help someone esle.
I had quite the same issue, and it seams that the solution is to clean the phone USB slot with a toothbrush...
cant post the reference url cause i'm new... so search for "galaxy s2 won't turned off"...
VBUS present wakelock caused by using Apple compatible charger
It does not look like this was ever resolved, so figured I would chime in since I have been looking at this for a while.
If you use a charger which is compatible with Apple products, it will cause the vbus_present wakelock since Apple does not adhere to USB standards and requires two of the pins to be bridged or open (can't remember which) to work for their products. However, when you charge a device that does adhere to USB standards with one of these chargers, it will cause the wakelock (on all the samsung phones I have seen, anyway).
Another downside to using an apple compatible charger is that you can never get more than 500ma out of it due to the non-standard USB connection, even if the charger is capable of 2000ma output. So you get slower charging.
When you are connected to any charger, this wakelock will be present. If you use an Apple compatible charger, it will persist after you unplug it and will drain your battery around 10% per hour since it prevents it from going into deep sleep. You can clear the wakelock by rebooting the phone or plugging it into a standard USB charger, such as a PC or Samsung charger, even for a few seconds.
You can use Better Battery Stats to see the effects of this wakelock. Note that it can take a few minutes to show up once you have unplugged from the apple charger.
Yes, this really p*sses me off. This is one of the reasons I no longer have any Apple products in my house and long since thrown away all the Apple compatible wall chargers I once had. It still comes back to bite me since I still have a couple of chargers that contain batteries to charge when you are away from a wall outlet and they both cause this. When I use them I just have to make sure I reboot afterward. The USB outlet I have installed behind the stereo in my car also causes this wakelock. I have one to replace it but have not gotten around to removing the stereo to do this yet.
The next best solution to never using an apple compatible charger at this point would be to have a kernel that addresses this and removes the wakelock after it is unplugged but I don't see this happening.
Man, I know you love your S II, but don't go taking a bath with it!
Was this recent? why don't you give the little guy a rest and leave it a day in rice, stucked inside a zip lock bag, can't hurt.
Googled this "vbus_present android battery not plugged in"
found this thread. Seems to have worked for me by simply rebooting. thx!
Hey guys, it's been awhile since I asked a question, but here I am, lol.
In a nutshell, I'm pretty sure something in my device (hardware) is fried, but I thought I'd see if anyone knows better.
The problem is my device seems to be sending power out of the usb port, and doesn't connect to the pc or recognize it is charging correctly.
This also applies to download mode (windows says device has malfunctioned) and when powered off (there is no battery that shows up when plugged in). In order to power back on after turning it off, I have to remove the battery, then reinsert it while holding down the power. I can't think of much that could have caused this, other than I was visiting places with high humidity levels. One unusual thing that happened before this started was my device rebooted into safe mode when playing bad piggies. That was really weird since I have tried booting into safe mode before, but thought samsung must have disabled it for some reason. I have already tried wiping data and flashing a new kernel/rom. Obviously I can't re-partition since I can't connect to my computer in download mode. What do you guys think? I think it is time for a new device.
EDIT: I should mention that it started behaving normally yesterday for about 5 minutes, but then it went back to this.
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In a nutshell, I'm pretty sure something in my device (hardware) is fried, but I thought I'd see if anyone knows better.
The problem is my device seems to be sending power out of the usb port...
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I'm 99.9% sure that under normal conditions that an Android device should never power the USB port. Source of speculation. If it is indeed powering the USB, then you've either got a really wonky firmware installed, or some sort of hardware issue. I'd try to make sure that it's sending power out before going further (especially if you can't charge it, the battery will be dead soon). After this test, I'd keep the battery out for a while, just to be sure it's not going to short anything.
One thing I've noticed in my tinkering is that taking a device apart, then putting it back together again can mysteriously fix problems (although 75% of the time the fix is temporary). If you suspect water damage, opening it up and letting it air out might help. I want to say there are certain cleaners that are great for cleaning up any water spots that might be shorting things out, but I've never had to try myself.
That's all I can think of right off. Good luck.
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I'm 99.9% sure that under normal conditions that an Android device should never power the USB port. Source of speculation. If it is indeed powering the USB, then you've either got a really wonky firmware installed, or some sort of hardware issue. I'd try to make sure that it's sending power out before going further (especially if you can't charge it, the battery will be dead soon). After this test, I'd keep the battery out for a while, just to be sure it's not going to short anything.
One thing I've noticed in my tinkering is that taking a device apart, then putting it back together again can mysteriously fix problems (although 75% of the time the fix is temporary). If you suspect water damage, opening it up and letting it air out might help. I want to say there are certain cleaners that are great for cleaning up any water spots that might be shorting things out, but I've never had to try myself.
That's all I can think of right off. Good luck.
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Yeah, I'm working on taking it apart right now. With my limited experience on electronics, I would be willing to bet it's a capacitor that's gone bad somewhere. That wouldn't be a problem on a desktop since I could just solder a new one in, but I don't think I have the skill to do something in such a small scale, not to mention I don't think you can even buy them that small.
The same thing happened to me, and I had to send it in for repair. Luckily, I was still in warranty. Also, are you sure it's not the charger cord?
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The same thing happened to me, and I had to send it in for repair. Luckily, I was still in warranty. Also, are you sure it's not the charger cord?
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I've tried multiple cables, and I'm unfortunately out of warranty.
Upon disassembling and cleaning with rubbing alcohol, it seemed to be working properly, with the exception of computer connection. However, I plugged it into a DC car charger (leaving the charger itself unplugged from an outlet), and the light came on again (which is what I was talking about when I said it was sending power out), and now it is acting weird again. I guess I'll take it apart and clean it again...
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I've tried multiple cables, and I'm unfortunately out of warranty.
Upon disassembling and cleaning with rubbing alcohol, it seemed to be working properly, with the exception of computer connection. However, I plugged it into a DC car charger (leaving the charger itself unplugged from an outlet), and the light came on again (which is what I was talking about when I said it was sending power out), and now it is acting weird again. I guess I'll take it apart and clean it again...
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honestly, i cannot begin to fathom what could be causing this. it seems to me samsing paid more attention to the charging port then say amazon did on the first gen kindle.
i do however, wish you the best of luck and hope you somehow manage to fix it
iJimaniac said:
I've tried multiple cables, and I'm unfortunately out of warranty.
Upon disassembling and cleaning with rubbing alcohol, it seemed to be working properly, with the exception of computer connection. However, I plugged it into a DC car charger (leaving the charger itself unplugged from an outlet), and the light came on again (which is what I was talking about when I said it was sending power out), and now it is acting weird again. I guess I'll take it apart and clean it again...
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See! Told you taking it apart and putting it back together again works... temporarily. :silly:
You're right, that does sound like power going out. Which would be super cool for powering, say, a micro USB laser pointer, but it's not so great when it should be charging. Can you double check with another device that the charger doesn't light up normally? I know my wife's laptop charger has a LED that stays on for a long time after it's been unplugged from the wall, sipping off of power left in the charger. It could be something similar with your charger.
Just a though... if power is only suppose to go into the device, then wouldn't it be reasonable to assume to that there would be a diode forcing power to only go one way? Or does it need to cycle power back to the charger? IDK, but it might be worth looking to see if something looks missing.
I read somewhere that if the battery voltage gets too low i.e. battery is totally flat, a current will flow from the device to the charger so this may be what's going on here. I didn't really understand the post as I was just whizzing through the thread, but i think the solution was to charge the device for many hours until the battery voltage was high enough for normal charging to occur. I'll try and locate the post, but it might take a while
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@iJimaniac if all of these suggestions dont work, there is the possibility to just buy another battery and a battery charger and keep switching out the batteries when they die
Maybe @henk5066 would know something about this?
From what it sounds like, your power circuit is fried and is not directing power correctly this means that you're probably going to have to replace the mainboard. however don't worry. you can get one from a player with a broken screen on ebay for about 10 $. I can p.m. you some links to products on eBay with main board working and not screen and I can post a video on YouTube that shows you how to replace the board. it's actually rather quite easy. I don't get why most people don't do that and instead buy a new one. let me know if that helps
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henk5066 said:
From what it sounds like, your power circuit is fried and is not directing power correctly this means that you're probably going to have to replace the mainboard. however don't worry. you can get one from a player with a broken screen on ebay for about 10 $. I can p.m. you some links to products on eBay with main board working and not screen and I can post a video on YouTube that shows you how to replace the board. it's actually rather quite easy. I don't get why most people don't do that and instead buy a new one. let me know if that helps
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Wow, I didn't realize a broken player is so cheap. I'll look into it, and instructions won't be needed; I've already fully dissasembled my device many times in the past, just for kicks.
Edit: could you send me those links? I'm having a hard time finding very many under $25, which is still a good price I suppose.
the broken player it's self is cheap (0.99$ if your lowest bidder and win) it is shipping that makes up for most of the cost. Just make sure you get one that says powers on, that is the main indicator that the main board is still good.
EDIT: I just looked on ebay, aparantly the person i bought my new board is out of the 4.0 player. and it looks like there is however one with a 9.99$ bid. you could raise it and get the player but that is the cheapest you will get. i will pm you a link to it.
I had the same problem
I had the same problem, what i did was, instead of charging it with the original charger, i charged it with my nexus 10 charger in download mode all through the night, and the next day it would have about 80 percent charge and it was in the system, but it drained quick when i would unplugged it, so i repeat the same procedure over several days until get to 100% and scince then i have had no problems with my SGP, hopefully i helped you
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I had the same problem, what i did was, instead of charging it with the original charger, i charged it with my nexus 10 charger in download mode all through the night, and the next day it would have about 80 percent charge and it was in the system, but it drained quick when i would unplugged it, so i repeat the same procedure over several days until get to 100% and scince then i have had no problems with my SGP, hopefully i helped you
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Interesting, i thought the devices could not charge in download mode.
On the subject of odd charging behavieor, has anyone noticed that when plugged in running cyanogenmod overclocked to 1200mhz, the micro usb port area on the player gets rather hot?
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Interesting, i thought the devices could not charge in download mode.
On the subject of odd charging behavieor, has anyone noticed that when plugged in running cyanogenmod overclocked to 1200mhz, the micro usb port area on the player gets rather hot?
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I haven't noticed excessive heat in that area.
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Ever since sometime yesterday or something. My phone has been steadily discharging whilst plugged in.
I charged my phone to full yesterday and noticed that it was charging a bit slowly.. but eventually it got there.
Then I unplugged it and plugged in a really low battery (4%) to charge it to full overnight (I have 2 batteries)
I woke up to the phone at 26% after an entire night of charging (about 8 hours).
I thought that the battery must be dead. It's a cheap one from Ebay but it has the official sticker on it, but it's a bit creased so it looks like it could be a cheaper one with a fake sticker on it. It always used to last about 20% less than the original one I got with the phone anyway. But that isn't the point.
I thought it must be dead. But I charged it a little before work and nope, it just kept dying. So I started worrying if the charger had died.
Then I just swapped the battery out and decided to use the fully charged one.
After about a days use I went to plug it in and it ALSO started discharging whilst being plugged in.
In fact they seem to discharge FASTER if plugged in.
I immediately thought that the little Wall Socket to USB Adapter had just blown. So I unplugged it and just plugged the phone in via my PC's USB 2.0 Port.. Same thing.. it sits on the same Percentage (%) and then gradually (if I use it at all) it starts to discharge.
It's charging so slowly that if I use it at the same time it'll die. When before I could even have a Skype call and keep it plugged in and it would overcharge through the amount of power I was using.
Does anyone have any ideas? It can't be the battery because both of them are dying no matter one, and they can't have both died. It might not be the little USB charger (although it no longer gets hot like it used to) because if I plug the phone straight into a USB port on my PC (I know the mW is lower but it should still prove if the charger is dead or not) then it still discharges.
Any ideas? I mean... it looks like somehow the USB port is no longer taking a charge? Without my phone I am a dead man.. it will totally mess up my work and everything...
Have you used a different cable? You said you plugged it into your PC USB port but you didn't say with which cable.
I don't have another cable :/ as it's a proprietary one... I can't just use some normal micro USB..
9/10 it's the cable that's the fault.
It's not proprietary. I walked into a shop and said "2 micro USB cables please" and they both work better. Also my HTC and blackberry micro USB cables both work better. Try another cable. Borrow one if you have to
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I have a micro USB cable.. it's for my HDD and it doesn't fit. It's a little bit too big. The last HDD I had too was the same, just a bit too big. Maybe it's not proprietary but I'm pretty sure it's smaller than the traditional Micro USB.
Also, I tried doing a file copy from the phone to my PC and back and forth. The speed is totally fine, really fast.
So could it still really be the phone? I'm a pessimist and I don't see why the cable would just suddenly die... I've already had my phone replaced on one of the 'sudden death' issues like everyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if there's yet another hardware fault...
At the moment it's off, and charging from the wall.
EDIT: Maybe it's a Mini-USB not a Micro.. in that case I have 1 Micro USB. Still I think my phone just died somehow overnight................. again.
leijonasisu said:
it's a proprietary one... I can't just use some normal micro USB..
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what? yes you can
Well cables are expensive in Finland but I suppose I have no choice but to bike down into town and buy another cable...
Most hdd caddies are indeed mini
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Maybe it's not proprietary but I'm pretty sure it's smaller than the traditional Micro USB.
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no, your phone uses a traditional micro USB. and data speed is not really connected to charging speed
New cord seems to have fixed it. 'Hama' brand (Finnish) triple shielded, with some gold plated connectors. Looks a lot higher quality than the traditional Samsung one. (Unshielded, no gold plating)
Also it's a bit longer, which I dunno if that will affect the rate of current. I know that shorter is better. It's 1.8m vs the older 1m.
Seems to be charging properly now, still a bit slow (phone is off) but I suppose that could just be the battery getting used to actually receiving a proper current finally.
Christ and I almost went and just bought an iPhone...
If in the end it was just the cord then €12.95 bought me peace of mind.
EDIT: Scratch that
It won't charge if the phone is on at the same time... it just sits at the same level of power. But if I use it, yeah it starts to discharge.
So basically it's lost the ability to charge whilst being used, and on top of that it did charge pretty slowly when turned off, but at least it did.
Looks like I'm going to have to sort out a way to fix it, then maybe sell it and get something else. I can't handle a phone that's such a disappointment.
The Galaxy S2 was a bit of a let down, to RMAs to Samsung now...
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triple shielded, with some gold plated connectors..
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sounds like something Monster cables would sell
Shame that it doesn't seem to have done the trick.
I'm really confused now. The battery I got off the net doesn't seem to be charging really at all, but ever so slowly when the phone is off.
The other battery, my normal OEM one charged sorta slowly but kinda normally I guess..
Really don't know what on earth is going on. It's going to be a total pain to get this thing repaired a second time, and it's been rooted and flashed multiple times. Plus it has the new bootloader on it that you can't possibly trick that it's been rooted.. (was installed after a fix on warranty)
So the oem battery charges normally?
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Plus it has the new bootloader on it that you can't possibly trick that it's been rooted.. (was installed after a fix on warranty)
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of course you can, use TA
You may have a faulty charging port (if not battery problem)
Why not download the Galaxy Charging Current app and see if your SIII is charging at 1000mA using wall charger?
Galaxy Charging Current
BTW - Other than faulty charge cable, it could also be faulty wall charger
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So the oem battery charges normally?
of course you can, use TA
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Well I wouldn't say normally, it was pretty slow but there was definite noticable improvement.
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You may have a faulty charging port (if not battery problem)
Why not download the Galaxy Charging Current app and see if your SIII is charging at 1000mA using wall charger?
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BTW - Other than faulty charge cable, it could also be faulty wall charger
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Thanks so much for the app. I bought the pro seeing as it's only 0.50c
Now this is really confusing. I'm gonna do some testing now:
On the cheaper battery Ebay Battery Using New 1.8m Shielded Cable With the OEM Wall Charger
If I plug the cord straight in from the wall charger without moving it the power starts off at 1000, then goes down to about 900, then after awhile to about 400, and then after awhile longer to 100. But I can't be sure that I am not bumping the cord even a tiny bit. Also the battery is at 94% so it could just be shutting off the charge in order to not overcharge. (Though before the issue the batteries always charged to 100%).
If I move the cord around and tap refresh the number drops by 100 - 200 every time I press refresh (all the way down to 100). Also if I move the cord perfectly back into the middle, the number doesn't go back up. It's like the more I move the cord around the lower the charge will be. If I leave the phone alone for a bit and look at it again after a minute, the rate has gone back up to 1000, then down to 900. Where it seems to stay.
The statusbar battery app shows that it is charging too (% is going up as normal)
At 97% charged on the cheap battery the phone only accepts a maximum current of 300. So it seems that the overcharge protection is working.
Though the battery can display fully charged and then drop to 97% after I unplug the cord. Which didn't happen before but it's an understandable thing.
Summery:
Moving the cord a lot causes the rate to drop dramatically.
When plugged in the current starts off at a full 1000, then drops to 900 (dunno if this is normal) so it seems to start off charging at max
The max concurrent, current that can be achieved from the wall charger with new shielded cable is 900-100 it seems.
The phone seems to discharge faster when plugged in (and current on 100) than when it's unplugged??!
Could someone please install the free app (Galaxy Charging Current), who isn't experiencing issues like me and wiggle their cord around and see if the rate drops too? I want to know if there's some sort of methodology that if the cord is moved around a lot the current rate is dropped, and it won't return to normal. Or if it's just my phone. Thanks so much!
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Ok... tested with everything I could honestly think of. Ebay/OEM Battery, Both OEM/New Cord and USB/Wall chargers and etc,
Basically it's like this. Both cords are fine. Both charge the phone just as fast. Using the wall charger is faster than using a USB. (But not if the cord has wiggled so much that the rate has dropped lower than what as USB gives)
The current rate only drops when the cord is moved, and here is the crucial thing:
When the cord is moved the rate drops anywhere from 100 all the way to 900. Meaning that the rate of charge can go from 1000 (max) down to 100 (absolutely nothing). Either in 1 go, or in bits every time the cord moves. Also if the cord moves EVEN ONCE, even the smallest bit the rate can just drop on its own.
So basically it seems that somehow there charging port has been damaged or something and the pins are no longer connecting and the phone or charger or SOMETHING has this incredibly bloody stupid thing where if the cord moves or if the rate drops, it doesn't go back up. So if the rate drops all the way to 100, it won't increase or go back to normal after a certain amount of time.
Or maybe I am wrong.. because if I push the cord even a little towards the back of the phone the charging light goes off completely, and the rate hits 0. Whereas if I pull it towards the front of the phone, the rate stays constant (at max) but if I take my hand off it, the rate drops to about halfway or really low. It just seems like the little connectors inside the phone are really.. really flimsy and loose. It obviously got damaged somehow. Either by constant connecting and disconnecting or bending or just you name it.
So does anyone have any suggestions? I might try and clean the inside of it with nail polish remover or something in case they're just dirty but I doubt it will do much. It seems definitely like the plug just doesn't fit in and connect well enough any more and that's where the power is being lost. It's gotten a bit loose, but really nothing out of the ordinary.
I can confirm that putting it in such a position where there is absolutely no chance for the cord to move at all, allows the phone to receive a constant rate of the highest possible charge.
I guess I could try and make the fit a bit more snug myself but it would be only really temporary.
I think I just need to get it serviced again, but I am not sure that I could because it's got a custom rom, it's rooted and it's already been repaired for one of those 'sudden death' issues already...
How generous is Samsung with their warranties?
Either way this is a terrible blow for me, I need my phone to pay my bills and stay connected with my work and friends. If I can't have it plugged in and still be able to move it around and use it. Then it's basically useless.
At least for now it seems to be charging okay just sitting completely still on the table.
leijonasisu said:
Well I wouldn't say normally, it was pretty slow but there was definite noticable improvement.
Thanks so much for the app. I bought the pro seeing as it's only 0.50c
Now this is really confusing. I'm gonna do some testing now:
On the cheaper battery Ebay Battery Using New 1.8m Shielded Cable With the OEM Wall Charger
If I plug the cord straight in from the wall charger without moving it the power starts off at 1000, then goes down to about 900, then after awhile to about 400, and then after awhile longer to 100. But I can't be sure that I am not bumping the cord even a tiny bit. Also the battery is at 94% so it could just be shutting off the charge in order to not overcharge. (Though before the issue the batteries always charged to 100%).
If I move the cord around and tap refresh the number drops by 100 - 200 every time I press refresh (all the way down to 100). Also if I move the cord perfectly back into the middle, the number doesn't go back up. It's like the more I move the cord around the lower the charge will be. If I leave the phone alone for a bit and look at it again after a minute, the rate has gone back up to 1000, then down to 900. Where it seems to stay.
The statusbar battery app shows that it is charging too (% is going up as normal)
At 97% charged on the cheap battery the phone only accepts a maximum current of 300. So it seems that the overcharge protection is working.
Though the battery can display fully charged and then drop to 97% after I unplug the cord. Which didn't happen before but it's an understandable thing.
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Moving the cord a lot causes the rate to drop dramatically.
When plugged in the current starts off at a full 1000, then drops to 900 (dunno if this is normal) so it seems to start off charging at max
The max concurrent, current that can be achieved from the wall charger with new shielded cable is 900-100 it seems.
The phone seems to discharge faster when plugged in (and current on 100) than when it's unplugged??!
Could someone please install the free app (Galaxy Charging Current), who isn't experiencing issues like me and wiggle their cord around and see if the rate drops too? I want to know if there's some sort of methodology that if the cord is moved around a lot the current rate is dropped, and it won't return to normal. Or if it's just my phone. Thanks so much!
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Ok... tested with everything I could honestly think of. Ebay/OEM Battery, Both OEM/New Cord and USB/Wall chargers and etc,
Basically it's like this. Both cords are fine. Both charge the phone just as fast. Using the wall charger is faster than using a USB. (But not if the cord has wiggled so much that the rate has dropped lower than what as USB gives)
The current rate only drops when the cord is moved, and here is the crucial thing:
When the cord is moved the rate drops anywhere from 100 all the way to 900. Meaning that the rate of charge can go from 1000 (max) down to 100 (absolutely nothing). Either in 1 go, or in bits every time the cord moves. Also if the cord moves EVEN ONCE, even the smallest bit the rate can just drop on its own.
So basically it seems that somehow there charging port has been damaged or something and the pins are no longer connecting and the phone or charger or SOMETHING has this incredibly bloody stupid thing where if the cord moves or if the rate drops, it doesn't go back up. So if the rate drops all the way to 100, it won't increase or go back to normal after a certain amount of time.
Or maybe I am wrong.. because if I push the cord even a little towards the back of the phone the charging light goes off completely, and the rate hits 0. Whereas if I pull it towards the front of the phone, the rate stays constant (at max) but if I take my hand off it, the rate drops to about halfway or really low. It just seems like the little connectors inside the phone are really.. really flimsy and loose. It obviously got damaged somehow. Either by constant connecting and disconnecting or bending or just you name it.
So does anyone have any suggestions? I might try and clean the inside of it with nail polish remover or something in case they're just dirty but I doubt it will do much. It seems definitely like the plug just doesn't fit in and connect well enough any more and that's where the power is being lost. It's gotten a bit loose, but really nothing out of the ordinary.
I can confirm that putting it in such a position where there is absolutely no chance for the cord to move at all, allows the phone to receive a constant rate of the highest possible charge.
I guess I could try and make the fit a bit more snug myself but it would be only really temporary.
I think I just need to get it serviced again, but I am not sure that I could because it's got a custom rom, it's rooted and it's already been repaired for one of those 'sudden death' issues already...
How generous is Samsung with their warranties?
Either way this is a terrible blow for me, I need my phone to pay my bills and stay connected with my work and friends. If I can't have it plugged in and still be able to move it around and use it. Then it's basically useless.
At least for now it seems to be charging okay just sitting completely still on the table.
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I am having the same issue as you, I have been managing to get it charged using my ipad charger which is stronger but it sometimes still doesn't charge with that. Last night I put it on charge and it turned off due to dead battery in the middle of the night. Did you manage to fix this?
spike305 said:
I am having the same issue as you, I have been managing to get it charged using my ipad charger which is stronger but it sometimes still doesn't charge with that. Last night I put it on charge and it turned off due to dead battery in the middle of the night. Did you manage to fix this?
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Since no one replied with a solution I will let you know my fix. I sent it to Samsung for repair under warranty and they have fixed the issue. It is due back tomorrow. Just so anyone else having this issue knows its covered under warranty.
I've got the same issue. At first i thought it was the custom ROM acting up. But even after unrooting it and going back to the stock firmware its still the same. The only way i can charge my phone is by switching it off nd plugging it in. Cuz no matter what i try, if the phone is switched on,the battery still drains. Couple of my friends had the same issue too.They ended up buying new phones. Guess this is a standard fault with all Samsung phones. If anyone's got a fix,do pass it on.
S3 charging problem
5h1n1gam1 said:
I've got the same issue. At first i thought it was the custom ROM acting up. But even after unrooting it and going back to the stock firmware its still the same. The only way i can charge my phone is by switching it off nd plugging it in. Cuz no matter what i try, if the phone is switched on,the battery still drains. Couple of my friends had the same issue too.They ended up buying new phones. Guess this is a standard fault with all Samsung phones. If anyone's got a fix,do pass it on.
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I´m having the same problem. I flashed my S3 i9300 to a cianogenmod 11 ROM. It's a relief to know it's not the ROM. The technical service prom the phone companies here really suck, so i'm taking my S3 to a third party cellphone technician and tell you if he solved my problem.
try this.
dear poster I have a solution that may work for you ,first thing take the battery out of the phone and leaving the battery out plug the charger in .leave it that way for about an hour .then unplug phone pop battery in turn the phone on .the replug the charger while the phone is still on and see if it charges better .
This may be useful for people with go's that refuse to charge. My background is that i dropped my go in water with both waterproofing doors ripped off so water got into the charging port. Now the reason i know the device is functional is because i have removed the battery and force charged it with a torn apart usb cable. (The pin layout on the battery is (V+, ID, V-) Red goes to V+ or positive (different models of this phone have different indications of + and - but generally the red wire must always be on the + and black wire on the -). With this i have successfully charged the battery numerous times however the devices's usb port is completely dead. The rest of the devices works flawlessly once the battery is holding a charge. (Powers on, tested almost everything and its fine). I was wondering if there were any mods possible to get qi charging on this little thing to avoid using the usb slot? Or perhaps other methods. Yes this is quite a far cry but this device is too interesting to trash just like that. Gotta get this thing into useable condition (able to charge itself somehow).
Thanks to anyone who gives advice in advance!