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Alright so I've never rooted my phone or done anything fancy with it as far as that goes. Recently the ICS update was released and I didn't update right away, wasn't sure how bad it would mess up my current settings etc. After reading that it retained all my settings and functionality I decided to upgrade. Ok so first off I can't Tether anymore and my portable wifi hotspot does not work either, I'm on Rogers and in Canada, never heard of 'tethering plans' such as other people refer to with AT&T. I have my 4g enabled, can retrieve internet access, and as soon as I turn on my portable hotspot my phone is unable to access the 4g anymore, It enables a wifi hotspot but anything that connects to it gets limited connectivity and can't access the internet either. It's like the phone just shuts it off automatically. I used to use this all the time and was one of my favorite features about my phone.. If I'm unable to use this I don't even want the data plan that I currently have, the data plan I decided on DUE to this feature.. So I'm gonna be pretty pissed off if this amazing little update is trying to force me to pay for something that I already pay extra to utilize properly.
I could be wrong here but I'm pretty damn sure that the battery life has dropped by close to 20% I can watch the percentage go down while I'm doing stuff and it seems to be losing life a lot quicker now, and I noticed that after the first day of using ICS. The resolution on the unlock screen seems to be botched, It's very squished... My old version never did this, and it's kind of annoying for my background images and having the clock looking out of whack.
I'm not sure what to do, there doesn't seem to be an update and as far as I know the update has been out for awhile now, why hasn't this stuff been fixed, who can I make official complaints to as far as Samsung or Rogers goes? I've checked these forums a bit and people seem to be having a lot of issues, some similar to mine some not, some I may have just had the luck to avoid so far. Is factory reset the only real option to fix things, and will that even help my tethering issues?
Anyone? :\
Is there a way to revert back to the old version?
There's a definite increase in battery drain while the device is just sitting there with the screen turned off doing nothing and the tethering thing is really annoying...
Hysterics said:
Anyone? :\
Is there a way to revert back to the old version?
There's a definite increase in battery drain while the device is just sitting there with the screen turned off doing nothing and the tethering thing is really annoying...
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Hysterics, yeah, same issue here. Waited for ICS update before I decided to go custom. So I just updated last week and have noticed faster battery drain and my hotspot no longer works.
It blanks out and after 30 seconds it gives you a message "Unfortunately Settings Has Stopped"
How master resets have you done?
I haven't done it yet, but I've heard a multiple master reset may fix the problem.
It's just doing a reset is a pain in the arse!
Yes,
there is a return to stock option for you...it can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506330
Read, read, read....
This method "will" return you to factory state. And you must read the entire thread, and follow the links to get a working device again.
hope this helps you.....g
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Just noticed this thread is a month old....And you likely have a solution by now.
Now posted for future reference.
OP, if you see this, and meet with success, please place the word "solved" in the thread title.
It will steer other users to your solution, and help keep the threads clean.
Thank you !!....g
For me what stinks besides the battery and hotspot everything else seems to work great.
Just hate to have to go through the master reset for one issue. As opposed if I had sevral issues.
But it is what it is I guess!
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What "it is" is that OTA upgrades to ICS are problematic.
I'd prefer flashing ICS directly through Odin using a stock ROM from samfirmware.com
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Agreed...Odin is the best path...IMHO....g
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Agreed...Odin is the best path...IMHO....g
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Thanks guys for the info.
Idk if Hysterics solved his/her problem, but I'm probably going to have to go down this path.
bman17 said:
Thanks guys for the info.
Idk if Hysterics solved his/her problem, but I'm probably going to have to go down this path.
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did you do a master reset?
Alright so I've never rooted my phone or done anything fancy with it as far as that goes. Recently the ICS update was released and I didn't update right away, wasn't sure how bad it would mess up my current settings etc. After reading that it retained all my settings and functionality I decided to upgrade. Ok so first off I can't Tether anymore and my portable wifi hotspot does not work either, I'm on Rogers and in Canada, never heard of 'tethering plans' such as other people refer to with AT&T. I have my 4g enabled, can retrieve internet access, and as soon as I turn on my portable hotspot my phone is unable to access the 4g anymore, It enables a wifi hotspot but anything that connects to it gets limited connectivity and can't access the internet either. It's like the phone just shuts it off automatically. I used to use this all the time and was one of my favorite features about my phone.. If I'm unable to use this I don't even want the data plan that I currently have, the data plan I decided on DUE to this feature.. So I'm gonna be pretty pissed off if this amazing little update is trying to force me to pay for something that I already pay extra to utilize properly.
I could be wrong here but I'm pretty damn sure that the battery life has dropped by close to 20% I can watch the percentage go down while I'm doing stuff and it seems to be losing life a lot quicker now, and I noticed that after the first day of using ICS. The resolution on the unlock screen seems to be botched, It's very squished... My old version never did this, and it's kind of annoying for my background images and having the clock looking out of whack.
I'm not sure what to do, there doesn't seem to be an update and as far as I know the update has been out for awhile now, why hasn't this stuff been fixed, who can I make official complaints to as far as Samsung or Rogers goes? I've checked these forums a bit and people seem to be having a lot of issues, some similar to mine some not, some I may have just had the luck to avoid so far. Is factory reset the only real option to fix things, and will that even help my tethering issues?
Also things like browsing through Facebook can eat up 5% of my battery in five or ten minutes... I know for sure that it never used to do that. I don't get why the battery life would be effected so drastically, but even when It's just sitting around while I sleep I lose a higher % of battery life than I did before... I've browsed through various threads but there doesn't seem to be many options, is anyone able to respond to the issues I'm having?
Flash a custom ROM. It's easy, and the experience is much better. There are guides in the stickies on everything you need to do.
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Like he said above me, flashing a custom rom would fix your problems. I'd recommend CM9 ICS. It's pretty stable and my favorite so far. Downside is you lose S-Pen functionality.
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Alright so I've never rooted my phone or done anything fancy with it as far as that goes. Recently the ICS update was released and I didn't update right away, wasn't sure how bad it would mess up my current settings etc. After reading that it retained all my settings and functionality I decided to upgrade. Ok so first off I can't Tether anymore and my portable wifi hotspot does not work either, I'm on Rogers and in Canada, never heard of 'tethering plans' such as other people refer to with AT&T. I have my 4g enabled, can retrieve internet access, and as soon as I turn on my portable hotspot my phone is unable to access the 4g anymore, It enables a wifi hotspot but anything that connects to it gets limited connectivity and can't access the internet either. It's like the phone just shuts it off automatically. I used to use this all the time and was one of my favorite features about my phone.. If I'm unable to use this I don't even want the data plan that I currently have, the data plan I decided on DUE to this feature.. So I'm gonna be pretty pissed off if this amazing little update is trying to force me to pay for something that I already pay extra to utilize properly.
I could be wrong here but I'm pretty damn sure that the battery life has dropped by close to 20% I can watch the percentage go down while I'm doing stuff and it seems to be losing life a lot quicker now, and I noticed that after the first day of using ICS. The resolution on the unlock screen seems to be botched, It's very squished... My old version never did this, and it's kind of annoying for my background images and having the clock looking out of whack.
I'm not sure what to do, there doesn't seem to be an update and as far as I know the update has been out for awhile now, why hasn't this stuff been fixed, who can I make official complaints to as far as Samsung or Rogers goes? I've checked these forums a bit and people seem to be having a lot of issues, some similar to mine some not, some I may have just had the luck to avoid so far. Is factory reset the only real option to fix things, and will that even help my tethering issues?
Also things like browsing through Facebook can eat up 5% of my battery in five or ten minutes... I know for sure that it never used to do that. I don't get why the battery life would be effected so drastically, but even when It's just sitting around while I sleep I lose a higher % of battery life than I did before... I've browsed through various threads but there doesn't seem to be many options, is anyone able to respond to the issues I'm having?
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I had the same problem and found two possible solutions:
1- I installed foxfi and i was able to use the wifi hotspot. I still wasn't able to access the native wifi hotspot functionality on the phone, but foxfi did the same thing so no big deal.
2- factory reset. this option is a little radical, but as has been explained elsewhere on this forum, the upgrade doesn't clear some configurations that remain from the GB ROM and those conflict with things like wifi hotspot and cardock and several other things.
I had to eventually do the factory reset. It was a nuisance because i had to reinstall everything, but now my phone works great and I can access all the native functionality.
You could also flash a custom ROM, but I have done it and while they are faster and sexier than the STOK ROM you always have to give up some functionality and they always have some bugs, and once you start flashing custom ROMs you can get OFD and we may lose you forever... (I had it from my windows mobile days and I would flash a new ROM sometimes more than once per day)..
Root (flash cwm with Odin), do a factory reset, and then flash the rooted/deodexed version of the UCLF6 stock rom. You won't lose ANY functionality, and your phone will be quick as hell again -- or even faster.
Like paleh0rse state...
Here is the thread with all the listing for stock LF6; tools that may be required. Along with all the ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
If you gonna flash a rooted/deodexed version of the UCLF6 stock ROM, no need to root before hand, just put CWM on and flash away.
Foxfi worked for me. But it doesn't connect right away to the Internet, had to inniate a browser then it connected.
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XDA is no longer worth my time.
Factory reset fixed it for me.
TimOster; I did not use Klies, I am with Rogers so I assume it was one of their Roms, It was a wireless download but through my homes Wifi I believe. And I don't really think I did it manually, I got an update message on my phone one day didn't even realize it was ICS at first, but of course it gave me lots of warnings and obviously realized what it was before doing it, but I wasn't expecting this lol, I wish I had checked it out online first I would have seen all the complaints and just stuck with the old version.
I'm thinking about trying a factory reset first, and if that doesn't fix things, mainly the battery issues, then I'll try a stock rom.
No one seems to mention anything about the battery usage though, am I the only one noticing this effect? :\
XDA is no longer worth my time.
paleh0rse said:
Root (flash cwm with Odin), do a factory reset, and then flash the rooted/deodexed version of the UCLF6 stock rom. You won't lose ANY functionality, and your phone will be quick as hell again -- or even faster.
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I'm the unofficial self-appointed president of the palehorse fan club, and I approve this message ....LOL
LOL!
Got my vote!
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Just got the new OTA, but still no Jelly Bean. I777UCLL6
IMEISV is now at version 7. No other changes I can see.
ou812bkewl said:
Just got there new OTA, but still no Jelly Bean. I777UCLL6
IMEISV is now at version 7. No other changes I can see.
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Maybe it fixed the sod problem, one can only hope.
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It looks like it updated Kies Air, and now the Facebook app won't open. I haven't noticed any other changes yet.
Hey all,
As some of you have already noted, an update is available for the Samsung Galaxy SII.
The update includes fixes for devices that may become unresponsive and/or power down while sitting idle on rare occasions. It also enhances security to protect against malware vulnerability. You will receive a notification on your phone to update.
NOTE - You must have updated to Android version 4.0 to receive notification of the new software update
From community manager on ATT forums:
http://forums.att.com/t5/Android-Di...hutting-off-in-idle-mode/td-p/3247765/page/18
What a complete waste. Sprint just pushed 4.1.2 to their gs2.
cfili said:
fixes for devices that may become unresponsive and/or power down while sitting idle on rare occasions
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By rare, they must mean multiple times a day... hope that finally fixes the problem...
Had my hopes up for JB even though I know the phone will not get it from AT&T.
I guess it is good that they are still trying to improve the phone.
scottwood2 said:
I guess it is good that they are still tring to improve the phone.
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There's at least as much cya and marketing motivation involved as anything else.
I previously rooted and flashed Siyah 4.3.3 which resolved my issue with the sleep of death. This seems to prevent this new update from installing as when the phone reboots it shows the Siyah boot image and then boots back into the OS, when I unlock the phone it tells me that the update failed to install. I'm not in a hurry to install an update that resolves something I've fixed through other means, but I thought I'd share for those interested.
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I previously rooted and flashed Siyah 4.3.3 which resolved my issue with the sleep of death. This seems to prevent this new update from installing as when the phone reboots it shows the Siyah boot image and then boots back into the OS, when I unlock the phone it tells me that the update failed to install. I'm not in a hurry to install an update that resolves something I've fixed through other means, but I thought I'd share for those interested.
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You really shouldn't accept OTA updates unless you are 100% stock.
nimper said:
You really shouldn't accept OTA updates unless you are 100% stock.
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You really CAN'T accept them if you remove system bloat ware or change kernels far as I know.
Hopefully it fixes the SOD problem. I was getting ready to call or go to AT&T and demand I be let out of my contract.
NBA Brawler said:
Hopefully it fixes the SOD problem. I was getting ready to call or go to AT&T and demand I be let out of my contract.
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That's the best joke I've heard today.
cfili said:
Hey all,
As some of you have already noted, an update is available for the Samsung Galaxy SII.
The update includes fixes for devices that may become unresponsive and/or power down while sitting idle on rare occasions. It also enhances security to protect against malware vulnerability. You will receive a notification on your phone to update.
NOTE - You must have updated to Android version 4.0 to receive notification of the new software update
From community manager on ATT forums:
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This has been happening to me for the past few months, on more than "rare occassions" though. I never knew what to call it until I saw people on here refer to it as Sleep of Death. Yep, sounds about right. And it would rapidly drain my battery when it happened.
I've successfully updated, so hopefully this will take care of it. It gets VERY annoying! And all the much worse since I use my phone for my alarm, haha. I have my wife's as a backup though.
Anyone pull the modem yet?
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I'm only a curious now, about whether this fixes the SOD. After hours on the phone with ATT and Samsung, and a few factory resets and a new phone, it was still doing it. And each time I called them about it, they'd say they were not aware of such a problem. Anyway, not an issue anymore for me, since going to Task's AOKP ROM, which got me so many better features than an ATT update ever would have - warranty or no.
The only reason why this OTA was pushed was because a ton of users were posting this issue on the ATT forums for 4 months straight. Even then ATT pushes an OTA for 4.0.4 instead of using one of the many 4.1.2 firmwares from Samsung.
c0ldburn3r said:
The only reason why this OTA was pushed was because a ton of users were posting this issue on the ATT forums for 4 months straight. Even then ATT pushes an OTA for 4.0.4 instead of using one of the many 4.1.2 firmwares from Samsung.
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My understanding is that it is up to Samsung to produce the firmware, and because it's a carrier-branded device, I have a hard time believing that they'd do that unless instructed to.
Really? You think Samsung is the one making the decision? Its really the carrier.
Can someone pull the modem from this update? Pm or post a download link once extracted please.
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Just installed the latest update on my Motorola DROID RAZR MAXX! And I thought VzW & Moto forgot about us! It's still rockin Android 4.1.2 but maybe something else got improved! Off I go to factory reset to improve speed & stability! Anyone know what this update includes!?
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willflint said:
Just got update on my Motorola DROID RAZR MAXX! And I thought VzW & Moto forgot about us! Still on Android 4.1.2 but maybe something else got improved! Off I go to factory reset to improve speed & stability! Anyone know what this update includes!?
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You don't ned to factory reset to do the update. And it is only a small update to fix roaming and some radio improvements. Not that bad at all.
I was rooted and on a custom ROM. I used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper app from Play Store to backup root, temporarily unroot and then take the new OTA update.
Once update was complete and phone rebooted, I went back into VooDoo and restored root. I did another reboot to fully restore root privileges. And all is good again. And stock ROM has new update and I can still go and use a custom ROM if desired.
Hope this helps ya.
Already updated, Gains in performance already!
beyedup said:
You don't ned to factory reset to do the update. And it is only a small update to fix roaming and some radio improvements. Not that bad at all.
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Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to insinuate that a Factory Reset was needed to DO the update, I had already did the update, as you can see in the screen cap! But like the last 2 updates, I figured this latest one could stand a Factory Reset in order to improve system and app stability, as well as provide additional performance gains intended by the update (at least that was the case with the last update, maybe not the 1st). When I did the last update, early last year, the factor reset GREATLY improved my phone's battery life, system stability and performance. However, after using this new update for the last 24hrs, I have (oddly enough) seen some performance gains! I haven't done the factory reset yet, and will hold off to see if performance continues to be evident.
And by performance gains, I'm referring to app speed, reduction in lag (though, of course, the phone is still laggy as all hell, but it's a lot better), and animations/transitions.
Oh, and thanks so much @beyedup for the quick rundown of what was done in the update!
I haven't seen an all inclusive list but what I did see is very minor at most. Seems like it was directed at Canadian carrier issues.
Boot Loop after 98.72.165.en.us
My phone seems to be boot-looping following the attempted install of 98.72.165.en.us.
I get the android on his back with his guts open and a Red triangle and exclamation point inside.
The phone then reboots and appears to come up normally, but within a minute or two, it indicates that it is powering down.
It then reboots again, I see the android again. blah blah blah.
Suggestions on fixing this would be appreciated.
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My phone seems to be boot-looping following the attempted install of 98.72.165.en.us.
I get the android on his back with his guts open and a Red triangle and exclamation point inside.
The phone then reboots and appears to come up normally, but within a minute or two, it indicates that it is powering down.
It then reboots again, I see the android again. blah blah blah.
Suggestions on fixing this would be appreciated.
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When you see android with red triangle,press vol- and vol+ and then find the option factory reset.
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Has anyone actually seen improvement from this yet.. Because if its radio improvement I pretty sure we didn't need one. When I have full 4G signal there is no other devices faster.. I've compared the xt912 to the HTC DNA and One, Samsung Galaxy Note, and the new Droid line as well as many others including the N4 and 5 and the xt912 beats them by a large margin every time .. Wouldn't be worth the update if that went backwards! Just curious if anyone actual noticed improvement before I let this update fly!
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sidgrafix said:
Has anyone actually seen improvement from this yet.. Because if its radio improvement I pretty sure we didn't need one. When I have full 4G signal there is no other devices faster.. I've compared the xt912 to the HTC DNA and One, Samsung Galaxy Note, and the new Droid line as well as many others including the N4 and 5 and the xt912 beats them by a large margin every time .. Wouldn't be worth the update if that went backwards! Just curious if anyone actual noticed improvement before I let this update fly!
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I haven't had the opportunity to test it yet, but the radio needed MAJOR improvement. The 3G/4G radio may have been fine, but the BT radio was a problem. Ever since the first JB update, the only apps that work through my car's BT are the stock music app and Poweramp. Everything worked great in ICS. I've read numerous posts with people having the same issues with various makes and models of cars.
EDIT: Survival mode in Super SU Pro worked great with this update.
Is it necessary to unroot to do the update?
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lmacmil said:
Is it necessary to unroot to do the update?
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No, but it may be necessary to re-root after the update. I'm not sure if any of the current root methods still work with the new update, but OTA root survival methods still seem to work fine. For all I know, the current update may not even be killing root access in the first place, but you should definitely play it safe by using something like OTA Rootkeeper or SuperSU Survival mode (Pro only).
Its a small update for Canadian users. It's nothing major. Everything else is the same. I had to unroot to install and reroot after update. xt912 Verizon CDMA
update fail
Why do I get an update fail message with this update? I have downloaded the update many times. Android man eventually lays on his back with red triangle. After this is the reboot with fail message.
Stock rooted rzr maxx running jb of course
WiFi hotspot hack done via sqlite
futuraforce said:
Why do I get an update fail message with this update? I have downloaded the update many times. Android man eventually lays on his back with red triangle. After this is the reboot with fail message.
Stock rooted rzr maxx running jb of course
WiFi hotspot hack done via sqlite
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Did you unroot if rooted? If not, backup your root. Then unroot. Download OTA update and let it install. Then go back and restore root. I used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper. This time it has worked fine for me. I know I've heard from others that it has failed to restore root for them.
I am not sure if RAZR Utility will still root with this update. I haven't heard anything yet if it will or not.
Hope this helps.
Yes I temp unrooted with vodoo. Don't know what's wrong???
futuraforce said:
Yes I temp unrooted with vodoo. Don't know what's wrong???
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I know a factory reset might not be desirable, but it may be necessary in your case. I would backup any app data you don't want to lose, then go in to recovery mode and do a factory reset, then download Rootkeeper, backup root and temp unroot, then attempt to update.
I was hoping this update would fix a problem with bluetooth that I have had since jelly bean came to our phones. The volume control does not work. It's either full volume or no volume when connected to a speaker. The problem is pretty well documented on the web. I had my fingers crossed. No luck...
my2cents said:
I was hoping this update would fix a problem with bluetooth that I have had since jelly bean came to our phones. The volume control does not work. It's either full volume or no volume when connected to a speaker. The problem is pretty well documented on the web. I had my fingers crossed. No luck...
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You and me both! Ever since JB, BT functions with my car stereo have been severely limited. I have to turn off BT to use navigation or any other app that isn't either the stock music app or Poweramp. Unfortunately, this update didn't change a thing.
Haskett1 said:
You and me both! Ever since JB, BT functions with my car stereo have been severely limited. I have to turn off BT to use navigation or any other app that isn't either the stock music app or Poweramp. Unfortunately, this update didn't change a thing.
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That's odd. my BT works fine with car, wireless speakers, wireless headphones, and truck on my xt912
XT910
Hi,
Will this update come for XT910??
what is the size of this update?
JStrem said:
That's odd. my BT works fine with car, wireless speakers, wireless headphones, and truck on my xt912
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Are you on 4.1.2? Neither my razr or my wife's razr BT works with 4.1.2. However, I am now on CM 11 and it works like it should. Both are XT912.
Hi Everyone!
I was waiting to root my Note 3 for the longest time because I did not want to trip KNOX. Well today I got a notice to update my phone to 4.4.2 so I check the internet for the latest gossip on the update. Most people said they did not care for it. Anyhow; I decided to root my phone because I didn’t care anymore and already kind of board of my phone.
So I rooted my phone and I did not trip KNOX.
My question is do I disable this Update Notification to 4.4.2 because it is not really needed via tricks laced in these forums or do I need to update to this to get better security and or features?
If I do update to 4.4.2 will I lose my root?
And if I lose my root; is it impossible to root on 4.4.2 because I believe it is impossible at this time.
Best,
Astrongtower
Astrongtower said:
Hi Everyone!
I was waiting to root my Note 3 for the longest time because I did not want to trip KNOX. Well today I got a notice to update my phone to 4.4.2 so I check the internet for the latest gossip on the update. Most people said they did not care for it. Anyhow; I decided to root my phone because I didn’t care anymore and already kind of board of my phone.
So I rooted my phone and I did not trip KNOX.
My question is do I disable this Update Notification to 4.4.2 because it is not really needed via tricks laced in these forums or do I need to update to this to get better security and or features?
If I do update to 4.4.2 will I lose my root?
And if I lose my root; is it impossible to root on 4.4.2 because I believe it is impossible at this time.
Best,
Astrongtower
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Unless you want a few undesirable tradeoffs in your hands, either live without KitKat and no update, or take it and remain stock until a proven, trouble free method is available.
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Astrongtower said:
Hi Everyone!
I was waiting to root my Note 3 for the longest time because I did not want to trip KNOX. Well today I got a notice to update my phone to 4.4.2 so I check the internet for the latest gossip on the update. Most people said they did not care for it. Anyhow; I decided to root my phone because I didn’t care anymore and already kind of board of my phone.
So I rooted my phone and I did not trip KNOX.
My question is do I disable this Update Notification to 4.4.2 because it is not really needed via tricks laced in these forums or do I need to update to this to get better security and or features?
If I do update to 4.4.2 will I lose my root?
And if I lose my root; is it impossible to root on 4.4.2 because I believe it is impossible at this time.
Best,
Astrongtower
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Yeah if you take the update you will no longer be rooted, and the only way to root Kitkat will trip Knox. So if Knox is a worry for you I would stay where you are at. Personally for me Kitkat fixed alot of small issues for me, so the update was much worth it, but I could careless about tripping knox personally anyway. I will never be sending my phone to Samsung.
MrWicked1 said:
Yeah if you take the update you will no longer be rooted, and the only way to root Kitkat will trip Knox. So if Knox is a worry for you I would stay where you are at. Personally for me Kitkat fixed alot of small issues for me, so the update was much worth it, but I could careless about tripping knox personally anyway. I will never be sending my phone to Samsung.
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Do you mind listing some of the few things it fixed for you?
I am reading a lot of threads saying that the new battery life is horrible.
I did manage to disable the update notification. Deleted the update file and renamed certain apk's. So if I never upgrade I guess I will be permanently on this os.
Is there a security risk or any other problems that arise from staying on an older os? Like cell reception or better working updates?
Thanks for answering my prior question about the root.
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Astrongtower said:
Do you mind listing some of the few things it fixed for you?
I am reading a lot of threads saying that the new battery life is horrible.
I did manage to disable the update notification. Deleted the update file and renamed certain apk's. So if I never upgrade I guess I will be permanently on this os.
Is there a security risk or any other problems that arise from staying on an older os? Like cell reception or better working updates?
Thanks for answering my prior question about the root.
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Well maybe someone else can chime in on some things they noticed also, but for me I was on Mj4 maybe 3 or 4 days till I updated. For me bluetooth got wayyyyy better on Mj4 when i would get in my vehicle bluetooth media wouldn't stream without skipping every ten to fifteen seconds. Nab modem I get faster speeds and stronger signal(but this will vary on location of the end user)....me I get great battery life(this depends on what rom you are using. I use Sacs Kitkat rom and I get great battery life) I stream audio probably 2 hours out of a day.....Wifi always on...bluetooth always on.....constantly searching etc I would say I'm probably a semi heavy user and at the end of the day I don't think I've ever been under 50% battery left at the end of the night. And that's my phone unplugging say 8am till 11pm or so.
Astrongtower said:
Do you mind listing some of the few things it fixed for you?
I am reading a lot of threads saying that the new battery life is horrible.
I did manage to disable the update notification. Deleted the update file and renamed certain apk's. So if I never upgrade I guess I will be permanently on this os.
Is there a security risk or any other problems that arise from staying on an older os? Like cell reception or better working updates?
Thanks for answering my prior question about the root.
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You are using a Custom ROM. That probably explains why you enjoy it so much.
I think it is the stock 4.4.2 Kik Kat that has the horrible batttery life.
So far I am enjoying stock 4.3 with basic root and disable notifocatons on the update.
Do I get the same cell phone reception when I stay on 4.3 or do I need to upgrade to 4.4.2 to get better reception and security?
You know, is it like updating windows and you get security updates and stuff or is it strickly that they just want to limit people from rooting by making it harder.
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Astrongtower said:
You are using a Custom ROM. That probably explains why you enjoy it so much.
I think it is the stock 4.4.2 Kik Kat that has the horrible batttery life.
So far I am enjoying stock 4.3 with basic root and disable notifocatons on the update.
Do I get the same cell phone reception when I stay on 4.3 or do I need to upgrade to 4.4.2 to get better reception and security?
You know, is it like updating windows and you get security updates and stuff or is it strickly that they just want to limit people from rooting by making it harder.
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Of course I'm running a custom ROM, that's the main purpose of rooting for me. I don't ever stay stock, I've never had good battery life on stock with any phone.
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Do you know anything about cell phone reception and security updates vs sticking with older roms or custom roms vs staying with latest factory update ROM OTA?
Just wondering if there is truly a benefit of sticking with pure stock and latest updates OTA even if you decided to deal with the negatives.
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Astrongtower said:
Do you know anything about cell phone reception and security updates vs sticking with older roms or custom roms vs staying with latest factory update ROM OTA?
Just wondering if there is truly a benefit of sticking with pure stock and latest updates OTA even if you decided to deal with the negatives.
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Well...alot of the times custom roms you are going to have all the latest security updates etc just as same as the stock ota. They are built from the base of the ota and then modified. Data speeds usually have a bit of increase because of different tweaks and such. The biggest problem with stock is all the Carrier stuff it adds in....same with knox added in.....all that stuff running in the background adds to battery drain. If I were you I would try flash a custom rom like Sacs.....then try it for a couple days....you can always go back to a stock rom.
Nvm forgot you didn't want to trip knox, so custom rom is pretty much out the question for you.
MrWicked1 said:
Well maybe someone else can chime in on some things they noticed also, but for me I was on Mj4 maybe 3 or 4 days till I updated. For me bluetooth got wayyyyy better on Mj4 when i would get in my vehicle bluetooth media wouldn't stream without skipping every ten to fifteen seconds. Nab modem I get faster speeds and stronger signal(but this will vary on location of the end user)....me I get great battery life(this depends on what rom you are using. I use Sacs Kitkat rom and I get great battery life) I stream audio probably 2 hours out of a day.....Wifi always on...bluetooth always on.....constantly searching etc I would say I'm probably a semi heavy user and at the end of the day I don't think I've ever been under 50% battery left at the end of the night. And that's my phone unplugging say 8am till 11pm or so.
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Can you tell us what modem you are using that gives you faster speeds and stronger signal? I was on both stock and multiple custom ROMs of MJ4 and I got way better signal strength and speeds than I do with NAB, and I'm running Sacs NAB ROM. I haven't flashed any other mod either, it's just Sacs. I was thinking of doing Carbon's AOSP ROM and seeing if I can get stock samsung apps (like camera, TW, just the basics, no bloatware) to work. I just personally like TW and like the features that the camera has (even though I've never, even out of the box, been able to get drama to work). I love the speed of AOSP and the minimal disk footprint, I just prefer some, SOME, of the samsung apps. But my main pain point right now with any NAB (4.4.2) ROM, stock or custom, is my signal got worse. Yes, I work on the Sprint campus so of course my nation wide clear coverage is non-existent (I'm lucky to get two bars of 3G, much less the LTE speed that Verizon or AT&T users ON THE SPRINT CAMPUS get to enjoy, sprint fail, I digress). Anywho, at home when I was on MJ4, I was getting download speeds of 15 Mb and upload speeds of around 6 Mb. Now with NAB I'm getting 5 Mb download speeds and 7.5 Mb upload speeds! Tell me how that works??? Maybe that's why battery life is so good for me, because I'm not connecting to the network so it's not using battery to communicate. I doubt it, but it sounded good at the time. So if you have a modem that you can point me to so I can flash it to get the better signal and speed, I'd be really appreciative.
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Can you tell us what modem you are using that gives you faster speeds and stronger signal? I was on both stock and multiple custom ROMs of MJ4 and I got way better signal strength and speeds than I do with NAB, and I'm running Sacs NAB ROM. I haven't flashed any other mod either, it's just Sacs. I was thinking of doing Carbon's AOSP ROM and seeing if I can get stock samsung apps (like camera, TW, just the basics, no bloatware) to work. I just personally like TW and like the features that the camera has (even though I've never, even out of the box, been able to get drama to work). I love the speed of AOSP and the minimal disk footprint, I just prefer some, SOME, of the samsung apps. But my main pain point right now with any NAB (4.4.2) ROM, stock or custom, is my signal got worse. Yes, I work on the Sprint campus so of course my nation wide clear coverage is non-existent (I'm lucky to get two bars of 3G, much less the LTE speed that Verizon or AT&T users ON THE SPRINT CAMPUS get to enjoy, sprint fail, I digress). Anywho, at home when I was on MJ4, I was getting download speeds of 15 Mb and upload speeds of around 6 Mb. Now with NAB I'm getting 5 Mb download speeds and 7.5 Mb upload speeds! Tell me how that works??? Maybe that's why battery life is so good for me, because I'm not connecting to the network so it's not using battery to communicate. I doubt it, but it sounded good at the time. So if you have a modem that you can point me to so I can flash it to get the better signal and speed, I'd be really appreciative.
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Unfortunately I don't have a answer for you I'm on the NAB modem also, one thing I just wanted to throw out there is modems always vary on location. And for some reason we don't have any modem options like previous phones I had the S4...Epic 4g touch....all had different modems with different releases so we were always able to flash different ones to find out works best for each individual. The only thing I would say to try is check make sure you have the latest prl.
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Unfortunately I don't have a answer for you I'm on the NAB modem also, one thing I just wanted to throw out there is modems always vary on location. And for some reason we don't have any modem options like previous phones I had the S4...Epic 4g touch....all had different modems with different releases so we were always able to flash different ones to find out works best for each individual. The only thing I would say to try is check make sure you have the latest prl.
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I do agree that different locations cause different results. My thought though is that my phone would be hitting the same radio towers as before. I don't think there has been an update to the tower radios, meaning LTE is LTE. What leads me to think it's not the towers is when I was on MJ4, I got great signal and then right after I flashed I immediately saw the degradation, I'm pretty confident that no hardware changes happened within that 10 minutes. Updating the PRL would just wipe out my phone's "favorite" towers. So it would force my phone to "re-authenticate" to the same towers that I already hit while on MJ4. That's my thoughts though, I could be totally wrong as I don't fully understand what all goes in to the phone radio communicating with the towers, I only know what hardware changes are or are not happening with the network.
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I do agree that different locations cause different results. My thought though is that my phone would be hitting the same radio towers as before. I don't think there has been an update to the tower radios, meaning LTE is LTE. What leads me to think it's not the towers is when I was on MJ4, I got great signal and then right after I flashed I immediately saw the degradation, I'm pretty confident that no hardware changes happened within that 10 minutes. Updating the PRL would just wipe out my phone's "favorite" towers. So it would force my phone to "re-authenticate" to the same towers that I already hit while on MJ4. That's my thoughts though, I could be totally wrong as I don't fully understand what all goes in to the phone radio communicating with the towers, I only know what hardware changes are or are not happening with the network.
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You are probably right, sounds logical I don't personally know either. All I could do is give you what my next option would be I don't really know what else to say. But I definitely agree with you.
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You are probably right, sounds logical I don't personally know either. All I could do is give you what my next option would be I don't really know what else to say. But I definitely agree with you.
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Oh I appreciate any and all help. Even in stating what you did you may have said something that triggered a thought process that I haven't explored yet. So never be afraid to "state the obvious" (for lack of a better term) to me. I'll never take it as a negative. Hell, there will also be times that I haven't tried the obvious just because my brain is searching for a more complex solution when it could be as easy as "did you turn on WiFi?" lol
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Oh I appreciate any and all help. Even in stating what you did you may have said something that triggered a thought process that I haven't explored yet. So never be afraid to "state the obvious" (for lack of a better term) to me. I'll never take it as a negative. Hell, there will also be times that I haven't tried the obvious just because my brain is searching for a more complex solution when it could be as easy as "did you turn on WiFi?" lol
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I've been there done that lol