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Last update for CM10 is 29.12 ?
And it went straight from a nightly to "stable" build.
It is quite silly to abandon one project if yet to be completed abruptly for another.
So like 10.1 will only get three quarters completion and dumped when 4.2.2 aosp code is released?
This is quite frankly utter madness.
A very good enough reason perhaps why ios versions are better polished.
Sadly disappointing.
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nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
Serpentene said:
A very good enough reason perhaps why ios versions are better polished.
Sadly disappointing.
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Please go to ios if you expect things to be done for you. This is not constructive at all considering that you are bringing nothing to the table. As pershoot said, it is his passion is why we see anything past the gimped TW ICS that was official release by Samsung. Not only is Samsung done with our Tab, so is Google. pershoot worked his butt off to bring compatibility to the code that dropped support for us.
pershoot said:
nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
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I respect your skills and passions..but
The methodology used here is illogical at best and quite confusing at worst.
BY introducing 10.1 in the same chain of nightly sequences this too is causing a havoc as well.
Users are assuming by being led to assume..this is the continued CM10 build chain of updates.
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Serpentene said:
I respect your skills and passions..but
The methodology used here is illogical at best and quite confusing at worst.
BY introducing 10.1 in the same chain of nightly sequences this too is causing a havoc as well.
Users are assuming by being led to assume..this is the continued CM10 build chain of updates.
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think of it this way,
i enabled this tab to allow for the latest updates, one in which it would never see otherwise. this allows me to work on the latest and the not so latest, as it pertains to the device, in the public eye to allow for collaboration and feedback.
you don't want it, you do not have to flash. nothing is forced upon you.
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think of it this way,
i enabled this tab to allow for the latest updates, one in which it would never see otherwise. this allows me to work on the latest and the not so latest, as it pertains to the device, in the public eye to allow for collaboration and feedback.
you don't want it, you do not have to flash. nothing is forced upon you.
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You are absolutely right, I'm very pleased to have Your versions available to flash. We who are not so talented, should be grateful (and maybe also a little bit more humble ) Thank You! :good:
Just want to sat Thankyou to pershoot, with CM10.1 my tab is better than it has been in ages. Loads of respect for the talented people who keep our devices alive.
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The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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Seriously...?
Pershoot,
Thanks a million for all the amazing work you and all the other developers are doing,
If you want to change version every week I'll just say "thank you". :good:
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The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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Did you seriously just say this?
Read the post linked in my signature please.
One should never feel they become 'dependent' on whether or not a developer who is not being paid for his time and does this work for fun 'finishes' development on a ROM based on your personal standard. If you feel that way you should probably not be modding your devices in the first place. XDA does not exist so you can imply its users have an ethical responsibility to give you what you need to make your device cooler than someone else's... It exists to inspire you to learn how to do this stuff and give back. It is a hobby, not a responsibility, and you acknowledge that fact when you flash the work.
Honestly, if you want to see something done and don't feel like waiting for the developer to address your particular concern, you have two options:
1) be prepared to donate funds in the hundreds of dollars per hour to pay the dev's bills and maybe the dev will focus on your needs
2) do it yourself...no one's stopping you
Sent from my Infamous Tab.
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Really!? Really!?... And you wonder why we (developers) leave...
Pershoot has done more for this device the ANYONE ! instead of complaining, how about you say thank you and maybe send him a donation.
How to get souce code?
pershoot said:
nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
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I want to get the 10.1 source code to compile by myself. Can you tell me how to get total source code to compile and produce zip file to flash my tab?
Thanks.
wooxz said:
I want to get the 10.1 source code to compile by myself. Can you tell me how to get total source code to compile and produce zip file to flash my tab?
Thanks.
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http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title=P4wifi_Info
This wasn't a complaint or rant. It is a simple question and answer of completing what the developer started.
I can ask without the need for stroking theatrics..
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Serpentene said:
This wasn't a complaint or rant. It is a simple question and answer of completing what the developer started.
I can ask without the need for stroking theatrics..
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you went from asking to a diatribe about philosophies and how I need to live up to one's expectations. put yourself in my shoes, then re-read what you wrote and the tact that was followed.
while i'm a very patient and passionate person, i only have one brain, two hands and only so much free time.
as stated prior, roll up your sleeves and start working on it. that is how you can make a difference and understand what a person like me goes through supporting X amount of users across X amount of devices.
Good news guys.
The 3.4 kernel sources are avaliable: http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
The petition;:
Hello everybody!
As some of you know, I already started to work on CM10.1, but i stuck while HTC don't share the 3.4.0 JB kernel sources.
The kernel licensed under GNU GPL, but HTC violate this license. 3.4.0 JB kernel released about 2 months ago, but they didn't share the sources yet. I tried to talk with them, but they didn't help me. Now i would like to ask you for help. I hope, if you help me, and we fight together, we will get the sources and I can make a fine CyanogenMod 10.1.
Please help us with these steps:
1. step:
Sign and share this petition: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/htc-desire-x-protou-kernel-source.html
2. step:
Send this letter for HTC here: http://www.htc.com/us/contact/email/
Please select the United States as your country, because in some country they can't help us.
So the letter: (Thanks for @ekulnitsua)
Dear HTC,
We appreciate the good quality, look and feel and the design of HTC smartphone products. That’s why our developers have created many ROMs for the phone with the Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) Kernel source code, but currently our developers are left unable to continue further.
An official HTC Desire X (codenamed proto) Jelly Bean (4.1.1) OTA (Over-The-Air) update was released almost two months ago on the 27th of March, 2013, and subsequently updated and rolled out throughout the Desire X userbase. The htcdev.com website, however, has still not been updated with the matching kernel source.
As we are sure you are aware, Android is an open-platform and is based on the GNU/Linux Kernel. The Linux kernel is licensed under GNU General Public License v2 or GPL (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html), which, as such, means that you are legally obliged to release the source code for any derivative work within a reasonable time frame.
This, however, is not just a legal obligation; developers are working hard to bring new ROMs and continue support to your devices, which many of your customers are eager to use. By releasing the kernel source code you can improve our experiences with the device and with HTC as a company. The very openness of Android is intended to draw many people and by withholding kernel source code you are ultimately alienating your customers who may move on to purchase devices made by a different company (e.g. a Google Nexus device with pure and newest Android).
We appreciate that you have made a commitment to aid us in the development of firmware by allowing for the unlocking of the bootloader, but without the Kernel sources such gestures remain severely hampered. Similarly, we are grateful that you are continuing to support the Desire X and it’s community, but we would all be happier if your continued support was not only directed at your customers, but also in the spirit of Linux and as required by copyright law.
Our petition: gopetition.com/petitions/htc-desire-x-protou-kernel-source/signatures.html
XDA-Developers link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288883
Contact e-mail: [email protected] (Attila Tóth "atis112" XDA-Developers Recognized Developer)
Yours Sincerely,
The xda-developers community.
This letter was written and is signed by the xda-developers community.
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Thank you.
atis112
I appreciate everything thing you've done so far and everything you will do, and I'll be very happy to help.
These kind of letters are my speciality. I'll draft something now so we can all send them across...
How about something like this (VERY heavily based on the Desire S letter):
Dear HTC,
We appreciate the good quality, look and feel and the design of HTC smartphone products. That’s why our developers have created many ROMs for the phone with the Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) Kernel source code, but currently our developers are left unable to continue further.
An official HTC Desire X (codenamed proto) Jelly Bean (4.1.1) OTA (Over-The-Air) update was released almost two months ago on the 27th of March, 2013, and subsequently updated and rolled out throughout the Desire X userbase. The htcdev.com website, however, has still not been updated with the matching kernel source.
As we are sure you are aware, Android is an open-platform and is based on the GNU/Linux Kernel. The Linux kernel is licensed under GNU General Public License v2 or GPL (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html), which, as such, means that you are legally obliged to release the source code for any derivative work within a reasonable time frame.
This, however, is not just a legal obligation; developers are working hard to bring new ROMs and continue support to your devices, which many of your customers are eager to use. By releasing the kernel source code you can improve our experiences with the device and with HTC as a company. The very openness of Android is intended to draw many people and by withholding kernel source code you are ultimately alienating your customers who may move on to purchase devices made by a different company (e.g. a Google Nexus device with pure and newest Android).
We appreciate that you have made a commitment to aid us in the development of firmware by allowing for the unlocking of the bootloader, but without the Kernel sources such gestures remain severely hampered. Similarly, we are grateful that you are continuing to support the Desire X and it’s community, but we would all be happier if your continued support was not only directed at your customers, but also in the spirit of Linux and as required by copyright law.
Yours Sincerely,
The xda-developers community.
This letter was written and is signed by the xda-developers community.
(ok, I've finished tweaking now, that should be it)
Well written ekulnitsua, I hope that it will make them worry about this problem. I would wait for a reply and then (if they won't share kernel sources) report to GNU.
They haven't even released JB rom worldwide so dont expect kernel sources to come so fast.. They will release it when JB has reached to all the parts of the world.
Renowned companies like HTC usually comply with the licenses. They have a good image. Just wait for some time...
@deathnotice01 we need ur skill here
Just sharing my Idea Peace
Dear HTC,
First of all Good Day! I have used HTC Devices since 2011 and I have liked the way you guys made HTC Sense and all the components that make your devices run better than others. Starting from Froyo to Jelly Bean I have an HTC Device. A few weeks ago my friend received an OTA (Over the Air Update) for JellyBean (Android 4.1.1) and HTC Sense 4+ this update was great! it made the device smoother and cleaner and more battery efficient, even though there were some "minor" bugs this update stood out and made me more proud of my HTC Desire X, obviously this was better than Ice Cream Sandwich which came stock on the Desire X, I wrote this letter to ask you guys to please update the Kernel Sources for Jelly Bean which came with the new 3.4 kernel if Iam not mistaken.
I'am sure that you guys are aware, Android is an an open source operating system (OS) based on the GNU/Linux Kernel. he Linux kernel is licensed under GNU General Public License v2 or GPL (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html), which, as such, means that you are legally obliged to release the source code for any derivative work within a reasonable time frame.
This however is only a request. Developers are working hard to make new ROMs for the HTC Desire X and continue support to your wonderful device. By releasing the kernel source code you can improve user experience to your device and help developers in the process.
We appreciate the things that you have done for your devices and maintaining them by series of updates and making them better everytime.
But without the Kernel sources such gestures remain severely hampered. Similarly, we are grateful that you are continuing to support the Desire X and it’s community, but we would all be happier if your continued support was not only directed at your customers, but also in the spirit of Linux and as required by copyright law.
Yours Sincerely,
The xda-developers community.
This letter was written and is signed by the xda-developers community.
Just sharing though, I was supposed to send this but I should post it here first I have re-written some sentences from the 2nd post so please don't be mad and sorry for my crappy English if HTC would not release these sources Zombies will eat them alive XD
prototype-U said:
They haven't even released JB rom worldwide so dont expect kernel sources to come so fast.. They will release it when JB has reached to all the parts of the world.
Renowned companies like HTC usually comply with the licenses. They have a good image. Just wait for some time...
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Been waiting for too long man. 45 days was the promise, and its been near 60 days. And there isnt even a SUPPORTIVE ANNOUNCEMENT that it will come. Why cant they even make an OFFICIAL STATEMENT, just to calm our nerves. Thats very bad image they are making in eyes of good developers like atis112 and others.
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Been waiting for too long man. 45 days was the promise, and its been near 60 days. And there isnt even a SUPPORTIVE ANNOUNCEMENT that it will come. Why cant they even make an OFFICIAL STATEMENT, just to calm our nerves. Thats very bad image they are making in eyes of good developers like atis112 and others.
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I am really patient.. We will definitely get it in future.
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Been waiting for too long man. 45 days was the promise, and its been near 60 days. And there isnt even a SUPPORTIVE ANNOUNCEMENT that it will come. Why cant they even make an OFFICIAL STATEMENT, just to calm our nerves. Thats very bad image they are making in eyes of good developers like atis112 and others.
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I think so too. Why should they share their sources now if we don't complain? We should decide. Either make only one letter for the whole community, or as many letters as possible so that they'll have enough to read.
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I think so too. Why should they share their sources now if we don't complain? We should decide. Either make only one letter for the whole community, or as many letters as possible so that they'll have enough to read.
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Well personally HTC would not care for our letters anyway because look at this OTA? NeXus PRIME is right 45 days is promised to spread the update world wide its been 60 days and still nothing I have also done the same thing for the Desire C users ( I was supposed to buy that if i never knew HTC has a stock of DXs ) and they never responded But those kernel sources would be awesome
But its worth a shot
Peace dont flame me XD
And what should I put in the letter its asking for my full name should I put XDA-Developers? Or my name? thanks
Well ... released in all countries or not , it's still released out there and it's licensed under GPL . The product is officially out there but the sources are not . It's not like it's in a beta test or anything , at least not officially . A release has been made , regardless of its bugs , and the kernel sources should have been provided as well . At least that's the way I see it
Also , we should first wait for a response from hTC before reporting them to GNU . Maybe hTC still have some arguments & reasons for not releasing it . Maybe the cleaning lady didn't go through all the code xD
I'm really disappointed to see how such a promissing device as the DX has so little ROM-wise development . It's wierd because hTC seems to be quite the developer-friendly company , unlike Samsung for example .
This was my first hTC and even though I'm really liking the overall look , feel & performance of the device , I really , really don't like Sense xD
There's really no point mincing words and playing nice: don't think they wouldn't come down on your heads if you used some propriety HTC code / design - Beautiful widgets are a case in point.
The whole idea of Android is that it's open source, anti-copyright, a stark contrast to the world of apple & microsoft and withholding sources is completely contrary to this philosophy.
Agreed though, I think we send this letter (or variations of it, if you're not happy about the strength of the language) wait a reasonable amount of time and then report it if nothing has happened / no reasonable reply is received.
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There's really no point mincing words and playing nice: don't think they wouldn't come down on your heads if you used some propriety HTC code / design - Beautiful widgets are a case in point.
The whole idea of Android is that it's open source, anti-copyright, a stark contrast to the world of apple & microsoft and withholding sources is completely contrary to this philosophy.
Agreed though, I think we send this letter (or variations of it, if you're not happy about the strength of the language) wait a reasonable amount of time and then report it if nothing has happened / no reasonable reply is received.
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I am really happy with the strength of the language. We have to show them what we want and that they are doing something wrong, so...
I think someone who has a higher position should write the letter. As a "normal" person we won't succeed.
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Rebekka_Sun said:
I think someone who has a higher position should write the letter. As a "normal" person we won't succeed.
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If we act as a big community, it should work too... But if someone of us would know someone working there, this could help...
This is what we sgy users did..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869565
The xda-developers must have a founder! Why don't we ask this person? I mean the developer of this site will get more "reaction" than some "members". Or why don't we act on Twitter, facebook, instagramm, ... There are so much people even on Facebook. We'll have a chance.
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The xda-developers must have a founder! Why don't we ask this person? I mean the developer of this site will get more "reaction" than some "members". Or why don't we act on Twitter, facebook, instagramm, ... There are so much people even on Facebook. We'll have a chance.
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You are high.
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You are high.
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My thoughts exactly...
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This is what we sgy users did..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869565
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Samsung is more developer friendly than HTC + they release their kernel source immidiately without people asking them
Thank you @ekulnitsua and @The Android Manual and everybody who support us. I already made an online petition too, I hope we will got a lot of sign, and we can write enough letter for HTC, and they will take it seriously. I will update the OP soon. I will add the link to the petition in the message, the link to this thread and if it isn't problem for you I add my email too, and so they can contact with me if they want, and i will share their message with you.
Thank you
atis112
Why is there such alot more development and forum activity on for example the Xiaomi Redmi phones than on this one? The p9000 got excellent hardware for a great price but the community is really small somehow and the software is still buggy? How come? Do you think its still worth to wait for more activity and responses from developers for this phone or is it a "dead cow" already and better to swap to another brand to get support from developers on for example CM or RR?
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Why is there such alot more development and forum activity on for example the Xiaomi Redmi phones than on this one? The p9000 got excellent hardware for a great price but the community is really small somehow and the software is still buggy? How come? Do you think its still worth to wait for more activity and responses from developers for this phone or is it a "dead cow" already and better to swap to another brand to get support from developers on for example CM or RR?
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Development for this device is far from dead, we have a stable device tree for building custom ROM's, CM and RR ROM's already released, a fully source built TWRP and work on custom kernels is just beginning. That's a lot more development already than an awful lot of devices see in their entire lifetime.
I would rather say it has just begun. Development for this MTK chip is not a matter of course and the outcome so far is pretty exciting. This opens the way for other devs who work on other devices with the same chipset. It's just that many devs simply prefer Snapdragon which leads to higher dev count on those devices, faster bug fixing etc. I am pretty excited what the future brings not only for our P9000 but MTK devices in general as far as flashing and development goes.
Development is dead? What gave you that impression? For starter this phone already has a working twrp recovery. That is more then some Chinese phones get in their whole lifetime. Kernels is the area of development next and elephone has been kind to release the source code for the phone. Again more then most developers even bother with.
well, it got twrp,root and xposed working. More than some name brand phones that stop official updates after a year.
But i admit it is easier to update my old nexus 4 with cm downloader. Just click the update notification and latest cm gets installed.
It is also getting nougat in November hopefully
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well, it got twrp,root and xposed working. More than some name brand phones that stop official updates after a year.
But i admit it is easier to update my old nexus 4 with cm downloader. Just click the update notification and latest cm gets installed.
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That's because Nexus 4 is an officially supported device by CM.
It's very difficult for MTK devices in general to get official CM support because we have to patch some things in the framework to make camera, RIL (mobile data) etc working.
The official stance is that these things should be done in device tree as no proprietary code is allowed in CM framework.
Initially when our patches were submitted to CM Gerrit they were rejected because of this, Leskal is working on minimising the patch work needed and getting more of the generic MTK code accepted on Gerrit.
Not helped by the fact that MTK themselves aren't helpful or willing to support developers as it doesn't suit their replace and force upgrade business model. Technically how they operate and their refusal to release official development tools or code is a violation of the open sources nature of Android. But google has yet to do anything serious about it. As far as I know, any code we have is from reverse engineering and leaks.
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Not helped by the fact that MTK themselves aren't helpful or willing to support developers as it doesn't suit their replace and force upgrade business model. Technically how they operate and their refusal to release official development tools or code is a violation of the open sources nature of Android. But google has yet to do anything serious about it. As far as I know, any code we have is from reverse engineering and leaks.
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Not true, I've met up with MTK engineers at DevCon and they do actually encourage development, they just seem to lately be wanting to protect their HAL's and drivers which as pointed out on the XDA portal article about this is sort of ridiculous. But then again it's proprietary code and not under the GPL so whilst we can say it's stupid we can't really contest it, it's their choice.
The code we have is completely official and not gotten from reverse engineering.
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Not true, I've met up with MTK engineers at DevCon and they do actually encourage development, they just seem to lately be wanting to protect their HAL's and drivers which as pointed out on the XDA portal article about this is sort of ridiculous. But then again it's proprietary code and not under the GPL so whilst we can say it's stupid we can't really contest ot, it's their choice.
The code we have is completely official and not gotten from reverse engineering.
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I have seen many a leak before. But OK they support developing but at the same time they don't help provide any decent tools for troubleshooting or development.
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I have seen many a leak before. But OK they support developing but at the same time they don't help provide any decent tools for troubleshooting or development.
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Why do they need to? There's already great tools around for that, I know Qualcomm certainly used to provide a package for debugging the lower system levels but it wasn't widely available as the lower levels of the device booting process are not needed to be modified outside of OEM labs and manufacturing.
The lowest level we need is kernel debugging and the kernel already provides that via last_kmsg and desmsg etc, all other tools are already available as part of ADB, logcat etc. There are also a plethora of other tools readily available.
I would call it pretty dead now Well, if not dead then dying.
Let's hope for a Christmas special
I am surprised that you missed that or maybe I missed it here
I dirtyflashed it over a CM13 and it seems to work
testing now
here are the roms/links
on german x820 forum its clear #1
http://download.mokeedev.com/?device=le_x2
dont forget its without gapps so flash add them when you like google stuff
Se didnt miss it but thanks anyway. That ROM was deleted from xda due to the fact that some users that dont do anything else but complaining, and attacking the dev. The dev from mokee hás informed that hes not posting anymore ROMs in xda. Nougat included
What is the dif btw release n nightlies
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Se didnt miss it but thanks anyway. That ROM was deleted from xda due to the fact that some users that dont do anything else but complaining, and attacking the dev. The dev from mokee hás informed that hes not posting anymore ROMs in xda. Nougat included
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Hello. You forgot to tell the full truth. The case is the dev was asked to release sources and he refused.
Regards Filozof71
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Filozof71 said:
Hello. You forgot to tell the full truth. The case is the dev was asked to release sourced and he denied.
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Thats not true. He said he wasnt releasing the source in that day. Three por four days later he released here the source code
nosidefcp said:
Thats not true. He said he wasnt releasing the source in that day. Three por four days later he released here the source code
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Incorrect. People were asking for the Device Tree used to build Mokee, which wasn't and still hasn't been provided. XDA isn't a place for you to download roms, it's a developer community. Pretty sure the device tree would have been converted from one that was available (Probably OP3) and not sharing it is disrespectful to every developer who has worked on it previously.
https://github.com/MoKee/android_device_letv_le_x2 is empty.
mikeysteele said:
Incorrect. People were asking for the Device Tree used to build Mokee, which wasn't and still hasn't been provided. XDA isn't a place for you to download roms, it's a developer community. Pretty sure the device tree would have been converted from one that was available (Probably OP3) and not sharing it is disrespectful to every developer who has worked on it previously.
https://github.com/MoKee/android_device_letv_le_x2 is empty.
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which rule say MUST share device tree?you can ask leeco share official device tree too.TRY HARDER
ffboy2009 said:
which rule say MUST share device tree?you can ask leeco share official device tree too.TRY HARDER
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Who's talking about rules? This is a community and communities have standards. You're free to do whatever you like but expect people to be unhappy if you disrespect the community.
ffboy2009 said:
which rule say MUST share device tree?you can ask leeco share official device tree too.TRY HARDER
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First of all: THANKS for your ROMs. Second: i would really consider publishing the device tree, because there might be a few others who would like to contribute.
Although the Max 2 is a rather "specific" smartphone, which - outside of India and China - nobody really considers buying.
ffboy2009 said:
which rule say MUST share device tree?you can ask leeco share official device tree too.TRY HARDER
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The Open Source rule and spirit. We share our knowledge and we don't hide it.
https://github.com/deadman96385/android_device_leeco_x2
https://github.com/AndroPlus-org/android_device_leeco_x2?files=1
I know is difficult to you to understand this. There must be a reason why you don't want to provide your sources.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3494247
ffboy doesn't own anybody anything. He releases his ROM's for free, he doesn't force you to use them. Many rom developers don't release their source code/device trees, one reason is that people could take there hard work getting everything to work and use to build their own ROM's and get donations from them without doing any hard work themselves. Even my grandma can build a ROM when eveyrthing is handed to her. One example is the very resepected developer arter97 who didn't release cyanogenmod device trees for s6 for a while when he was developing for s6. Get off ffboy's case, he is a developer and doesn't deserve this, if there was a downvote in xda I would downvote the haters. You've already been warned by the mods yet you still pour hate on to the dev.
Edit: I agree with ffboy we should continue petitioning LeEco for device trees.
@whymoo
I am not arter97, i don't care what he does and i don't accept donations.
ffboy released his rom under mokee s name who they aclame to be "open source". Also i except to see the whole source and not part of it.
If ffboy doesn't like this he could publice his rom to a hoster like "mega"
ffboy and not me already copied code and signed the same code as his own and don't gave proper credit.
We are a big community and we help each other. We share our knowledge and don't hide it. I and other people don't like to reinvend the wheel again. This is a waste of precius time who lot of us they don't have. Yes! we can contribute, merge bugs and maybe compile other roms and yes, ffboy must accept, that maybe me or others wanna use his device tree or some other code. BUT we don't forget to give credits.
Btw i don't be warned and i don't see a reason why should be.
It's CM or stock based?
ir work?
monleylord said:
@whymoo
I am not arter97, i don't care what he does and i don't accept donations.
ffboy released his rom under mokee s name who they aclame to be "open source". Also i except to see the whole source and not part of it.
If ffboy doesn't like this he could publice his rom to a hoster like "mega"
ffboy and not me already copied code and signed the same code as his own and don't gave proper credit.
We are a big community and we help each other. We share our knowledge and don't hide it. I and other people don't like to reinvend the wheel again. This is a waste of precius time who lot of us they don't have. Yes! we can contribute, merge bugs and maybe compile other roms and yes, ffboy must accept, that maybe me or others wanna use his device tree or some other code. BUT we don't forget to give credits.
Btw i don't be warned and i don't see a reason why should be.
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first i opensourced kernel soucre as GPL requirement,but device tree was not GPL and you do not have the right to force me do things i dont like.
2nd i know i made mistakes on kernel source for commit authorship brcause i am not good at git tools but i have already corrected them.
i dont care you like me and my rom or not
i have released all source of mi max on my github
the only reason i dont release max2 device tree is,
Some people here is just do nothing but PUSHING AND ATTACKING me because they want my device tree to build there roms to gain Respect and donations i think.they are so rude and ridiculous
when i said "No plan to release kernel source RECENTLY" and released a few days later,they don't care and start attacking and pushing
i also dont warned by forum moderatoer by not released device tree
So ban me out of this forum if you can
ffboy2009 said:
first i opensourced kernel soucre as GPL requirement,but device tree was not GPL and you do not have the right to force me do things i dont like.
2nd i know i made mistakes on kernel source for commit authorship brcause i am not good at git tools but i have already corrected them.
i dont care you like me and my rom or not
i have released all source of mi max on my github
the only reason i dont release max2 device tree is,
Some people here is just do nothing but PUSHING AND ATTACKING me because they want my device tree to build there roms to gain Respect and donations i think.they are so rude and ridiculous
when i said "No plan to release kernel source RECENTLY" and released a few days later,they don't care and start attacking and pushing
i also dont warned by forum moderatoer by not released device tree
So ban me out of this forum if you can
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I don't care if you like ne or not either. I gave you also a like. I don't care either to gain Respect or earn money through donations.
You are the only one here who try to gain respect or donations but your behavior shows me clearly that you are reacting like a little defiant child who felt driven into a corner.
I made a Pointment about you and you have to accept it.
monleylord said:
I don't care if you like ne or not either. I don't care either to gain Respect or earn money through donations. You are the only one here who try to gain respect or donations but your behavior shows me clearly that you are rect like a child. I made a Pointment about you and you have to accept it.
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I'd be interested in the device tree so I could play around building with some custom toolchains. All my phones run ROM's I've compiled myself but I've never shared them with anybody here as they aren't my work.
mikeysteele said:
I'd be interested in the device tree so I could play around building with some custom toolchains. All my phones run ROM's I've compiled myself but I've never shared them with anybody here as they aren't my work.
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This will become ridiculous be smart and open with everybody we talk about a phone don't forget this please
sdevaux said:
This will become ridiculous be smart and open with everybody we talk about a phone don't forget this please
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I think you misunderstand. Building ROMs with custom toolchains and then posting them here would be passing off the work of others as my own, which is not on. I'm not making any source code changes.
mikeysteele said:
I think you misunderstand. Building ROMs with custom toolchains and then posting them here would be passing off the work of others as my own, which is not on. I'm not making any source code changes.
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I understand it's just that everyone should be open with others it would allow us to move forward the rom development for this model that's just my opinion
Today XDA's Aamir Siddiqui posted an Article on how Poco, even though they promised to do so, still haven't released the Kernel Source for our Poco X3 yet.
So far the Developers are doing an amazing Job in providing us Users with already very well working Custom ROM Options.
But, of course, complete sources, as promised, would be very welcome.
A couple of guys have already tweeted at Poco quoting the following Article.
Maybe we could boost that message a little, to speed up that process to get the Sources.
Of course I don't really mean that we should annoy the shi* out of them or be rude, but maybe a little reminder, from their users, might help.
Tweet: https://twitter.com/xdadevelopers/status/1327165355979059200
I for one, fully agree. Sadly, though, I'm not on Twitter. :good:
Another appropriate venue for this gentle pressure would be the official forum at https://c.mi.com/forum-2861-1.html.
Can you document other Twitter posts here? They would come handy as templates and indicators...
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Gizchina now posted an article about it as well.
https://www.gizchina.com/2020/11/13...ot-available-despite-launch-days-promise/amp/
Do you guys really believed that a company that makes you wait one week to unlock the bootloader will give you the kernel source right away?
I don't go by what I believe, I go by what they said.
That being said. No, I don't believe that.
Sill, it doesn't hurt to ask and remind them again. Worst case, nothing happens, best case, it helped a little.
editheraven said:
Do you guys really believed that a company that makes you wait one week to unlock the bootloader will give you the kernel source right away?
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They did so before, dunno what's keeping them from doing it now.
Maybe because of Dynamic Partitions?
Dynamic Partitions
Ezzady said:
Maybe because of Dynamic Partitions?
Dynamic Partitions
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Why is dynamic partitions stopping them from sharing source?
Google shared the kernel source for pixel 4a and 5 already
Kernel released, guys.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/surya-q-oss
Looks like we have annoyed them enough and they finally released it, thank god
Maybe. ?
Not sure if there is a correlation, but I'm sure it definitely didn't hurt. I'm just glad we have them now.