Now I have a nexus 6p, I love the vibration motor, display and reception, but really really disappointed for processor, very slow, too much thermal throttling, too much stutter and slugginess,I have still my xiaomi and it is better in everything except camera and display.
Hating nougat tho lol
yeah, I agree with you. I'd a htc one M8(32g version) before and let me tell you my M8 very smooth and battery life is good audio in speakers and headphones are great. and most things that important to me having various developers with many differences in their roms (specially: Viper(venom),Sky Dragon(sense&gp), InsertCoin, leedroid, eragon, renovate, revolution Hd,MIUI,sk-redbull,...,too many aosp& CM mode) plus too many batches include great audio batches like Harman/Kardon or Boom sound and Beats audio,..
likewise I have multirom with 3 base of android (kitkat/Lollipop/Marshmallow) in sense roms without any issues
Of course I know the camera or display in Nexuse 6p is great battery not bad and sound not too far from M8(in speakers mostly not in headphones sadly) but I expect more than this because it'd costs 200% more than M8 to me
however could be worse if I bought Note 5! ? ? ???
sorry for my bad english-noob words!! ?
Useless post. Return the phone.
Have none if those performance issues. Maybe u mistakenly have an iphonie instead of that badboy 6P!
Really thermal throttling starts at 45 degrees and phone on idle stays at 43-44 Lol , most of the time 1 or 2 cores are offline or frequence is cutted down, is It for real Google?
Return the phone and buy another. Stop complaining.
Yes, all the review sites and youtubers call it fastest phone, but probably you are right, its slow slugish and stuttering lol
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Really thermal throttling starts at 45 degrees and phone on idle stays at 43-44 Lol , most of the time 1 or 2 cores are offline or frequence is cutted down, is It for real Google?
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You can edit thermal conf, make it throttle later. Is kind of the point of a nexus, one can root it and do pretty much what one wants.
Actually I'm using It without thermal engine, and now It is better, but very disappoint this processor
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Well I downloaded cpu master (free) to just mess around with my photon, and come to find out, the governor for the cpu is set to performance, but gave me the option to change it to powersave, so I switch it and I'll report back to you guys and see if I've found the holy Grail to even better battery life
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Wait until I or another dev gets onDemand governor enabled...
I have SetCPU, and honestly, I haven't noticed a huge difference in battery life with powersave unless I seriously scale the CPU back to like 300 mhz. Then it'll last a while, if I don't do ANYTHING with it. For example, when I'm sleeping, otherwise, it just makes the phone laggy and doesn't seem to help enough to make it worth while. Just my opinion from screwing with it.
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I have SetCPU, and honestly, I haven't noticed a huge difference in battery life with powersave unless I seriously scale the CPU back to like 300 mhz. Then it'll last a while, if I don't do ANYTHING with it. For example, when I'm sleeping, otherwise, it just makes the phone laggy and doesn't seem to help enough to make it worth while. Just my opinion from screwing with it.
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The general consensus regarding over/underclocking when I had my HTC Hero was that overclocking would save battery because you could get what you wanted done faster. If you scale the CPU back massively while it is set to sleep, however, you will save a lot of battery.
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I have SetCPU, and honestly, I haven't noticed a huge difference in battery life with powersave unless I seriously scale the CPU back to like 300 mhz. Then it'll last a while, if I don't do ANYTHING with it. For example, when I'm sleeping, otherwise, it just makes the phone laggy and doesn't seem to help enough to make it worth while. Just my opinion from screwing with it.
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well, i don't know about your phone or what else you have setup, but my phone didn't lag and it seemed to help, i currently have my evo 3d active so my photon just sits there, so i can give a good feedback of idle time, but i can tell you after switching the governor, it went down 1% in 2 hours, now i say that's an improvement, so when i get back home i'll really give you guys some feedback
P.S. with any phone i had that had a fully custom kernal, i always used conservative governor
Well, perhaps it's just the apps I have running then. As I said, when it's set to sleep, it works pretty well with the powersave mode, otherwise, doesn't seem to make any real difference. Guess it's different for everyone cause of the **** they're running on their phone.
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The general consensus regarding over/underclocking when I had my HTC Hero was that overclocking would save battery because you could get what you wanted done faster.
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You know, I've never bought into this argument. To me, it is like saying that if I drive 100 mph I will get there faster, so I use less gas....which we all know is not how it works.
Maybe the physics are different for processors then they are for engines, but I think there is probably a happy medium somewhere. And I have a feeling that the manufactures really take this into consideration when they develop the kernels and ROMs. However, I might be wrong.
This is by no means an effort to discourage your awesome work. Everyone gets different results, but stock always seems to have the best battery life for me once all the bloat is gone. However, custom kernels do perform better. That is the trade off, in my opinion.
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You know, I've never bought into this argument. To me, it is like saying that if I drive 100 mph I will get there faster, so I use less gas....which we all know is not how it works.
Maybe the physics are different for processors then they are for engines, but I think there is probably a happy medium somewhere. And I have a feeling that the manufactures really take this into consideration when they develop the kernels and ROMs. However, I might be wrong.
This is by no means an effort to discourage your awesome work. Everyone gets different results, but stock always seems to have the best battery life for me once all the bloat is gone. However, custom kernels do perform better. That is the trade off, in my opinion.
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Lol honestly I never bought into it either. I was just posting was the other devs at the time said. Even using an OC kernel, I never overclocked my phone.
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Lol honestly I never bought into it either. I was just posting was the other devs at the time said. Even using an OC kernel, I never overclocked my phone.
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Interesting...I hadn't thought about using an OC kernel and underclocking it back to stock. I wonder what that does, if anything, to performance.
The other concern that I have is that overclocking typically means more heat, which means more battery use... Just figured I would throw that out there too.
well, the results are in, now granted i already had the photon of the charge for more then 24 hours, so at 1d 15hr 57m and 10s i'm at 48%, but from the time i started the cpu test, 1:30pm, it was at 68% so in 8 horus there was only a 20% drop while idle, i say that's a good score , you guys tell me otherwise
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well, the results are in, now granted i already had the photon of the charge for more then 24 hours, so at 1d 15hr 57m and 10s i'm at 48%, but from the time i started the cpu test, 1:30pm, it was at 68% so in 8 horus there was only a 20% drop while idle, i say that's a good score , you guys tell me otherwise
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and just an update, in another 4 hours, it's only gone down 2%!!!!!! come on guys, these numbers can't lie, but remember this is idle feedback, i'll re-activate my photon at the end of the week (missing the beast!) to give more detail feedback on heavy usage and most importantly 4g!!
Development. Development. Development.
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Not sure if this will help but let me explain the car analogy. All motors have an effeciency range at x amount of throttle. So same cars will get better gas mileage at a higher speed vs a lower one. Its getting up to that speed where most energy is used.
So let me move this over to electronics. If you run a faster clock speed while on, your apps will open faster so that ia less on time for the screen and other processes that have to run. So using more watts for less time does not always equal more than using less watts for more time. We just need to fill in those blanks and obviously overclocking will not benefit the nook or internet reader as it eould someone who opens a lot of apps for short periods. Same is true for a gamer .
Hope that makes sense and this is all IMHO of course.
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Not sure if this will help but let me explain the car analogy. All motors have an effeciency range at x amount of throttle. So same cars will get better gas mileage at a higher speed vs a lower one. Its getting up to that speed where most energy is used.
So let me move this over to electronics. If you run a faster clock speed while on, your apps will open faster so that ia less on time for the screen and other processes that have to run. So using more watts for less time does not always equal more than using less watts for more time. We just need to fill in those blanks and obviously overclocking will not benefit the nook or internet reader as it eould someone who opens a lot of apps for short periods. Same is true for a gamer .
Hope that makes sense and this is all IMHO of course.
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Let me start this off by saying that I am an agricultural engineer by trade. With that said, I would agree that engines have an efficiency range. However, I would not agree that it is at x throttle. Rather, it is a x load. And most cars are designed to be at optimal load at about 60 mph (wind resist, weight, etc. play a role in this). You're right, it does require more fuel to get to that speed because the load is higher until that speed is reached. Furthermore, higher speeds (greater than 60 mph) do NOT translate into higher fuel mileages because the load increases to maintain the higher speed (because there is more wind resistance, among other things).
I know a bit about electricity too, but I don't fully understand the physics behind circuit boards. However, I think the analogy still holds. I can get to 60 mph as fast as I want, but the faster I do it the more energy is required. Therefore, even though it is done faster it still requires more energy, which also creates more heat, both of which use the battery. So, I continue to contend that there is a happy medium that most be found and I think electronic engineers aren't to far off.
Here is a little more reading about car efficiency, if you are interested: http://www.mpgforspeed.com/
I believe your confusing overclocking and overvolting. We are putting x volts into the processor so the more cycles we can get in x volts the better. If we have to overvolt to overclock then we see big battery hits.
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2cents, that link is interesting but real world examples have proven otherwise to me. Our saab will do better on mpg at 70 to 75 (30 on cruise control) vs 55 to 65(27 to 28 on cruise). Now the wrx is another story as well. With the old 3.9 final drive i would pull in more air at the airflow meter at 65 than i would at 70 with stoich as the target a/f ratio, and because that motor was doing under 2500 rpms the turbo was out of the equation further taking out efficiency with it. Now with the 4.44 and a better 1-2 gear ratio car gets better at the lower engine speeds and accelerates even better and that was before i retuned it.
Another misconception is bigger motors use more gas, one of the recent corvettes get 30 on the highway proving that there is more to this as well.
I think i have taken this off topic enoigh for now. But in general i think my formula still needs to be applied to see the results as a valid number to compare overclocking and underclocking to running stock.
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i'm surprised no one even thought of this topic, regardless if things are getting done "faster" you are overclocking the cpu, making it go faster then what it's suppose to, which makes it use more power i.e. more battery, every phone that i had when i overclocked it, the battery wouldn't last too long, even with my 3500mah OG evo, if i overclocked it, i couldn't get a whole day, so underclocking will have the same effect in a sense since the processor now has to work harder to do what it does at it's stock clocked speed, well, hope anything i said here makes any logical sense, but on another note, the photon has gone almost 3 days unplugged!!!
again it depends on how the overclock is achieved. In most cases overclock is achieved by dumping more electricity into the cpu this will impact battery life, however alot of chips these days can be overclocked at the same volts essentially upping the "MPG" or clocks per volt.
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i'm surprised no one even thought of this topic, regardless if things are getting done "faster" you are overclocking the cpu, making it go faster then what it's suppose to, which makes it use more power i.e. more battery, every phone that i had when i overclocked it, the battery wouldn't last too long, even with my 3500mah OG evo, if i overclocked it, i couldn't get a whole day, so underclocking will have the same effect in a sense since the processor now has to work harder to do what it does at it's stock clocked speed, well, hope anything i said here makes any logical sense, but on another note, the photon has gone almost 3 days unplugged!!!
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I agree with this for the most part. When it comes to power the end result is watts, which is essentially equal to volts x amps. It is not perfect because of a power factor, but it is close. Therefore, if you lower the voltage, the amperage goes up because the same watts are required to run the processor. The inverse is also true. These processors have voltage ranges that they will safely run in, but in the end, they require the same energy (in watts) to function at a given load. Change one a little bit (the voltage for example) and the other (amperage) compensates. Change it a lot and it likely wont work. Again, this is how it works for your typical home appliances. For a circuit board, it might be a slightly different story, but I imagine the science does not change.
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2cents, that link is interesting but real world examples have proven otherwise to me. Our saab will do better on mpg at 70 to 75 (30 on cruise control) vs 55 to 65(27 to 28 on cruise). Now the wrx is another story as well. With the old 3.9 final drive i would pull in more air at the airflow meter at 65 than i would at 70 with stoich as the target a/f ratio, and because that motor was doing under 2500 rpms the turbo was out of the equation further taking out efficiency with it. Now with the 4.44 and a better 1-2 gear ratio car gets better at the lower engine speeds and accelerates even better and that was before i retuned it.
Another misconception is bigger motors use more gas, one of the recent corvettes get 30 on the highway proving that there is more to this as well.
I think i have taken this off topic enoigh for now. But in general i think my formula still needs to be applied to see the results as a valid number to compare overclocking and underclocking to running stock.
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You may be right. Perhaps Saab designed their fuel efficiency at 70 mph. It's possible because many speed limits are now at or near that, but in general, optimal fuel consumption is going to be at or near 60 mph. Obviously gear ratios and such play a huge role in fuel economy. It is like using a custom rom, typically your mods will make it perform better, but the best fuel economy or battery life will come with a stock like setup.
Sure a corvette can have HP and economy. There is a power to weight ratio and lots of aerodynamics involved, which again is designed at a specific speed. But there is no way that a dragster will have a good fuel efficiency. To my point, there is a balance...
I agree, we are off topic a little bit, but the conversation is interesting, nonetheless.
By the way, can a mod move this to general, please?
I know, the Tegra K1 gets hot. Is this a widespread issue though (some people only report minor warmth)? How hot is too hot? Mine is getting stoopid hot, and I'm pissed because I finally have a unit with almost no issues, save the over heating problem. I know the SHIELD has issues with screen cracking, and the N9 should be safer with the metal band, but something doesn't seem right...
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This.
combine that with a badly configured cpu governor that boosts the frequencies to 2+ ghz even for simple tasks that do not need all those cpu cycles.
In addition to the whopping 1.5ghz touchboost frequency (WTF google).
After rooting and fixing the last two points, I experience high temps only when playing games.
Blocking Ads also tremendously helps temps while web browsing.
I wouldn't consider it a problem. I also doubt you have a bad unit even though its getting hot. Chances are if you do the exact same things on 100 nexus 9's the temp will be very close. I've been looking through the kernel code for tegra throttling and doing some tests. The tests show it starts to very lightly throttle starting at 70c in my tests. I believe I saw in the kernel there is 3 throttling states basically, light, heavy, and one other I can't remember. Shutdown occurs at right above 100°c.
As far as the governor, I'm sure if it made sense gooe would have lowered it. But, if I remember right this was part of project butter to make the ui smooth, as well as some other things. I don't think touch boost is killing battery too bad, and I'm willing to sacrifice some for a smoother ui anyway.
Thisbis just a hit running CPU, no way around it and its not a defect, its just a side effect of a powerful CPU in this design. I also noticed although it heats up quick, it cools extrememly fast. Like dropping 15-20° in seconds, literally- so overall I don't think this is a huge problem, but if they can make it better, more power to them.
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I wouldn't consider it a problem. I also doubt you have a bad unit even though its getting hot. Chances are if you do the exact same things on 100 nexus 9's the temp will be very close. I've been looking through the kernel code for tegra throttling and doing some tests. The tests show it starts to very lightly throttle starting at 70c in my tests. I believe I saw in the kernel there is 3 throttling states basically, light, heavy, and one other I can't remember. Shutdown occurs at right above 100°c.
As far as the governor, I'm sure if it made sense gooe would have lowered it. But, if I remember right this was part of project butter to make the ui smooth, as well as some other things. I don't think touch boost is killing battery too bad, and I'm willing to sacrifice some for a smoother ui anyway.
Thisbis just a hit running CPU, no way around it and its not a defect, its just a side effect of a powerful CPU in this design. I also noticed although it heats up quick, it cools extrememly fast. Like dropping 15-20° in seconds, literally- so overall I don't think this is a huge problem, but if they can make it better, more power to them.
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im really happy to hear about your thought
but if the heat issue occurs many times, will it break the others hardware,
i have seen in laptop, if the graphics card heat too much, it can melt the motherboard and the others parts of the laptop,
im afraid that it will happen to this tablet eventually
i really love my nexus 9, just this heat issue make me incomfortable
**YOU HAVE NOONE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF IN THE CASE OF YOUR NEXUS TURNING INTO A NOTE 7 AND BLOWING UP, CATCHING FIRE OR MELTING OR ANY BAD THINGS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED**
This is a much MUCH more extreme version of the original Xthermal Mod that i made for personal use on stock rooted 7.0 and will share it here just in case someone wants it. I highly recomend to use the original mod as it is much safer. The config is optimised for games that would normally stutter or lag because of throttling. It keeps the GPU clock high up to much higher temps and even keep it maxed when the cpu starts to throttle to leave more thermal headroom for the gpu to run. The first throttle step is at 58C, cpu drops to 1200mhz but the gpu stays at max clock, the second step is at 61C where the cpu drops to 760mhz and the gpu to 390mhz, the thermal shutdown is still the same as stock at 66C. I highly recomend, that you use a "open back" case like the one i made (pic attached) so the phone can still release as much heat as possible while you hold the case to keep it comfortable(it will get hot to the touch). I recomend you to not charge with the fastcharger while doing high stress things as i have no idea what might happen to the battery. The benchmark difference is not huge as the maximal clocks stay the same, but real world gameplay (i tested simpleplanes which always stuttered and lagged like hell, now runs smooth) will do much better. Side effect is also possible better long term multitasking as while the mod is not made with the intention of keeping cpu fast, it still raises the first throttle step even for the cpu by a lot.
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Even more power for longer, slightly higher cpu clock on first throttle step, much higher gpu clock on 2nd throttle step, all steps temperature limit even higher than before but the last step that shuts down the phone is left at stock levels.
Fantastic, now I can use my phone as a hand warmer in the winter.
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Fantastic, now I can use my phone as a hand warmer in the winter.
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Lol
Paradoxumical said:
Fantastic, now I can use my phone as a hand warmer in the winter.
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yeah xD
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Hello everyone.
I own pro version of mate 10 and when i play games on it (like PubG and Modern combat 5)on very high settings it start Lagging constantly and FPS drops quickly i don't know why is this happening on high end device..If someone know how to handle this situation please tell me..
Thank You.
Sardar0131 said:
Hello everyone.
I own pro version of mate 10 and when i play games on it (like PubG and Modern combat 5)on very high settings it start Lagging constantly and FPS drops quickly i don't know why is this happening on high end device..If someone know how to handle this situation please tell me..
Thank You.
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Buy another phone, not Huawei their Kirin processors are not good. They somehow perform well in benchmarks but they are a lot worse in real life than snapdragon or exynos (and of course apple)
I benchmarked many games... Maximum 10 min of gaming then there is thermal throttling because it gets too hot. Then fps drops 1/3 at least.
Just tested pubg on HDR setting and anti aliasing enabled. It starts with 40fps but after 5 min drops to 15-25fps and also lags, unplayable.
Even normal games with not so good graphics get fps drops after 10-15min like Sonic. Common Huawei, my sister is playing Sonic on a 250€ Samsung A5 2017
Look at the screenshots, it starts with 40fps but many lags and frame drops. After a couple minutes it drops to constant 20fps. The other shows CPU usage but that is not working obviously. Somehow it gets an average of 30fps but that's bs. It is not playable.
Yeah.. Same with me when i switch to HD settings of pubG it lags little bit.. But when i switch on HDR it become unplayable. I will upgrade to one plus soon.
Thanks
if you got root then disable the power genius app and restart. this app slows phone down to prevent overheat. i tested this with pubg and asphalt 8 at 60fps. constant 60 FPS even after 30 mins of gaming. with HDR i get constant 40-45.
PS: the phone will get warm because of 12 GPU cores so be in a cool room while playing.
same here. using m10p and lagging on PubG even on High settings. But it improved on the latest firmware (BLA-L29 C636 B138)
PUBG lagg on Mate 10 Pro not because of Kirin. It laggs because PUBG is not optimized game at all. Same for people that play PUBG throu their desktop computers. I watched my friend playing PUBG on his 2k PC and still gettin' FPS dropped and lagg. Although Mate gets hot after 10 till 20 minutes of gaming.
Interesting to read this, I have a Note 8 atm and I play a lot of PUBG, I'm about to trade my Note 8 in for a Mate 10 Pro (Don't judge) as I'm a little bored of my phone now and annoyed of the poor battery life and awful mono speaker. The Mate 10 Pro ticks more boxes for what I require, so I'm hoping a software update will fix the FPS.
I don't play PubG but I do however play the recently released Asphalt 9 which as far as I know is pretty intensive and get minimal heat and it runs smooth for well over a hour, I don't notice any FPS drop, I haven't checked statistically what it's running at while playing but if the drop was severe then I'd definitely notice it
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I don't play PubG but I do however play the recently released Asphalt 9 which as far as I know is pretty intensive and get minimal heat and it runs smooth for well over a hour, I don't notice any FPS drop, I haven't checked statistically what it's running at while playing but if the drop was severe then I'd definitely notice it
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Thanks for this info, sounds like I should expect similar to what I get at the moment then, maybe an improvement once the update comes out to boost the GPU.
I used to play Shadow Fight 3. Till the release of update 142 it worked flawlessly,even on longer playing sessions....then,dunno what brains of Huawei did,it became unplayable.
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I used to play Shadow Fight 3. Till the release of update 142 it worked flawlessly....then,dunno what brains of Huawei did,it became unplayable.
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Sounds to me that they like bringing out these new features, meaning these new features are "let's break something that worked perfectly before"...that's the gist I've got off these forums.....I'm hoping I'm not going to regret my decision now I've ordered the Mate 10 Pro
Exactly. That was my thought too.
But I'm keeping it cuz of job and unrivaled battery life. As a business phone it's flawless.
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Interesting to read this, I have a Note 8 atm and I play a lot of PUBG, I'm about to trade my Note 8 in for a Mate 10 Pro (Don't judge) as I'm a little bored of my phone now and annoyed of the poor battery life and awful mono speaker. The Mate 10 Pro ticks more boxes for what I require, so I'm hoping a software update will fix the FPS.
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Yes, they will release GPU Turbo for Boost in GPU performance in Games
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Exactly. That was my thought too.
But I'm keeping it cuz of job and unrivaled battery life. As a business phone it's flawless.
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One of the main reason I'm moving to the Mate 10 Pro is for battery life, it'll be nice to have a phone that can last a whole day with heavy use, my last phone that did that was iPhone 6s Plus.
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Yes, they will release GPU Turbo for Boost in GPU performance in Games
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I've read that, hoping it applies to PUBG!
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I've read that, hoping it applies to PUBG!
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It does cuz PBUG is their main "selling" point
Fps drop bcause of overheat. the cpu and gpu will reduce the speed when reach certain temp to prevent soc chip die....if u are gamer, use smartphone cooler or buy rog phone
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if you got root then disable the power genius app and restart. this app slows phone down to prevent overheat. i tested this with pubg and asphalt 8 at 60fps. constant 60 FPS even after 30 mins of gaming. with HDR i get constant 40-45.
PS: the phone will get warm because of 12 GPU cores so be in a cool room while playing.
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The power genius app, is it an app? Can u elaborate more on this? Need root to do this?
i need to stop throttling from kernel is this possible ?
i tried all kernels and only underclocking delayed it a little bit but not disabled it.
btw my story :
i switched from g9600 to g965f (sd845 chinese s9 to european ****ty exynos s9 plus) because s9 screen is small. But in pubg, exynos performs like ****. i think this is just a FAKE cpu and gpu at all. After throttle in these summer days its like my old LG G5 with a cooling mod performing at peak. here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/hw-mod-improve-performance-prevent-t3821462/page3
35-55 fps flactuating holy crap. this is an 2018 flagship device WTF is going on. Even you can underclock SD845 to give 200.000 antutu and its still far far far better then exynos cooled with a fan (active cooling no throttle)
i was aware of this ****, they stopped sending free phones to anandtech because they uncovered this.
but i didnt know it was this bad on pubg. it seems like antutu scores are nothing to do with pubg performance of exynos. may be its about optimization or bad cpu gpu architecture for pubg.
i thouht that s9 plus has a bigger frame bigger heatsink so may be its not throttling like exynos s9, they are not talking about it on anandtech lasrhşaoırghşoeırghjea
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12615/improving-exynos-9810-galaxy-s9-part-1
I think only WhiteWolf kernel disabled termal but when phone gets very hot System turning off all applications
trying it now, seems like there is not throttle. i changed shıtty layer on cpu with a copper and thermal paste so its cooling faster but giving more heat to battery.
I've been using S9+ Duos with exynos SoC and never had throttling or fps drops on pubg... are you using a case or something that makes the phone extremely hot?
Don't forget thermal throttling is to protect the SoC... and staying on high temps for long time will decrease SoC lifetime...
If you have money and don't care about that then there's no problem on using a kernel with thermals disabled.
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thanks man its not throttling with whitewolf kernel now. im getting onsistent 59-60 fps all the time now like a snapdragon 845 device is not getting too hot, i have a fan anyway to improve battery longevity.
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I've been using S9+ Duos with exynos SoC and never had throttling or fps drops on pubg... are you using a case or something that makes the phone extremely hot?
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Nobody noticing it. Only me and other pros noticing it. i have shtloads of friends like you who is playing with 35-55 fps in throttle and they are not noticing anything. Even i have a friend with duo exynos model in gym and he is playing with 35-45 fps. drop is a different thing, im talking about FPS DECREASE.
May be you are in a very cold environment. use smooth/extreme and get fps on display (gamebench or gltools) and see massive fps decrease after throttle.
BTW your asking me if im using a case holy crap did you looked at my lg g5 mod ? aergaergt
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/hw-mod-improve-performance-prevent-t3821462/page3
aptalherif1 said:
thanks man its not throttling with whitewolf kernel now. im getting onsistent 59-60 fps all the time now like a snapdragon 845 device is not getting too hot, i have a fan anyway to improve battery longevity.
Nobody noticing it. Only me and other pros noticing it. i have shtloads of friends like you who is playing with 35-55 fps in throttle and they are not noticing anything. Even i have a friend with duo exynos model in gym and he is playing with 35-45 fps. drop is a different thing, im talking about FPS DECREASE.
May be you are in a very cold environment. use smooth/extreme and get fps on display (gamebench or gltools) and see massive fps decrease after throttle.
BTW your asking me if im using a case holy crap did you looked at my lg g5 mod ? aergaergt
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/hw-mod-improve-performance-prevent-t3821462/page3
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[emoji2369] Again, I live in Argentina... temps goes from 2°C to 15°C on Winter and from 20°C to 38°C on summer...
I'm not a Pro, and don't need to, to notice and measure it. I'm just a simple Sr. System and Network engineer that plays with graphics set at max, and althought snapdragon has better performance than exynos my FPS counter has NEVER dropped even when playing for longer periods.
And I play with the phone using a Spigen NeoHybrid model case...
Don't know your scenario to evaluate wether is your device, ambient temps, etc.
Maybe your model has some kind of design issue... mine is a SM-G965FD
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[emoji2369] Again, I live in Argentina... temps goes from 2°C to 15°C on Winter and from 20°C to 38°C on summer...
I'm not a Pro, and don't need to for be able to notice and measure it, but I do play with graphics set at max, and althought snapdragon has better performance than exynos my FPS counter has NEVER dropped even when playing for longer periods.
And I play with the phone using a Spigen NeoHybrid model case...
Don't know your scenario to evaluate wether is your device, ambient temps, etc.
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may be you have a no throttle kernel
aptalherif1 said:
may be you have a no throttle kernel
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I'm using XSG stock rom (non-rooted right now)
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I'm using XSG stock rom (non-rooted right now)
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hmm probably you are in cold and your a lucky guy.
there is stloads of guys on the internet like me
on this forum :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...g-mobile-low-fps-lag-bad-performance-t3909636
and strange lag problem :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/games-slow-gradually-temporarily-fixed-t3793749
this strange problem only happening with exynos 9810 and 9820. if you go to multitask and come back to game its normalizing
on 9820 its not working and people getting refund because they cant play pubg at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6pfo9tvaeM&t=70s