Waiting for rma, random thought... - Nexus 6P General

I'm currently waiting for my 6P rma to arrive, for battery shutdown issues, and a very small lift in the screen near Power/Volume buttons.
Since T-Mobile is going to start sending out an ota that will prevent Note 7s from charging, it got part of my mind wondering, are all the devices that are having battery shutdown/bootlooping problems (afaik, 6P, 5x, and some Pixels) using flash memory supplied by Samsung? How does a provider like T-Mobile target only Note 7s and not other phones that have Samsung parts? Is it purely based off of imei #s?

sgvjon said:
I'm currently waiting for my 6P rma to arrive, for battery shutdown issues, and a very small lift in the screen near Power/Volume buttons.
Since T-Mobile is going to start sending out an ota that will prevent Note 7s from charging, it got part of my mind wondering, are all the devices that are having battery shutdown/bootlooping problems (afaik, 6P, 5x, and some Pixels) using flash memory supplied by Samsung? How does a provider like T-Mobile target only Note 7s and not other phones that have Samsung parts? Is it purely based off of imei #s?
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The battery shut down is an issue with nougat, put your tinfoil hat away

Lawlrus said:
The battery shut down is an issue with nougat, put your tinfoil hat away
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I've actually had the battery shutdown before Nougat. So there goes your theory. I will say that with Nougat, the problem definitely got worse and more frequent.

sgvjon said:
I've actually had the battery shutdown before Nougat. So there goes your theory. I will say that with Nougat, the problem definitely got worse and more frequent.
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If you've been having the issue before 7.0 launched, then what does the devices flash memory matter ?

Lawlrus said:
If you've been having the issue before 7.0 launched, then what does the devices flash memory matter ?
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Just looking for any other commonalities among all affected devices (other than software). Afaik, the devices with these problems are 6Ps, 5x, and i guess now Pixels as well, from reading the reddit sub there. And i was mainly curious as to how a provider would target a certain phone model, by just using imei's or what.

sgvjon said:
Just looking for any other commonalities among all affected devices (other than software). Afaik, the devices with these problems are 6Ps, 5x, and i guess now Pixels as well, from reading the reddit sub there. And i was mainly curious as to how a provider would target a certain phone model, by just using imei's or what.
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Apparently the G5 has the issue as well.
Yeah, more than likely by targeting the iemi. I guess I read your op as you thinking them shutting done the note 7 possibly being a reason as to why this was happening. If that's the case then you having the issue before 7.0 totally debunks that.
I read huawei made a statement that the issue is software based. But I dunno, if that's the case, I have no idea why they would have offered you an RMA.
I've never had it happen to me, then again I don't think I've ever let this device get below 45% before I ran into a wall outlet, or a car

Lawlrus said:
Apparently the G5 has the issue as well.
Yeah, more than likely by targeting the iemi. I guess I read your op as you thinking them shutting done the note 7 possibly being a reason as to why this was happening. If that's the case then you having the issue before 7.0 totally debunks that.
I read huawei made a statement that the issue is software based. But I dunno, if that's the case, I have no idea why they would have offered you an RMA.
I've never had it happen to me, then again I don't think I've ever let this device get below 45% before I ran into a wall outlet, or a car
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Haha no problem. Oh i didn't know it was happening with the g5. Yes, mines been happening since summer but infrequently. After Nougat, it's been happening more often. My rma was through Google not Huawei. I think in my case, it was because i had a veryyyyy small lift beginning to appear on edge of screen near the power/volume buttons, and i bought from the play store.
Well i wish it to never happen to your phone. Yeah i don't know who to believe, if it's software or hardware.

sgvjon said:
I'm currently waiting for my 6P rma to arrive, for battery shutdown issues, and a very small lift in the screen near Power/Volume buttons.
Since T-Mobile is going to start sending out an ota that will prevent Note 7s from charging, it got part of my mind wondering, are all the devices that are having battery shutdown/bootlooping problems (afaik, 6P, 5x, and some Pixels) using flash memory supplied by Samsung? How does a provider like T-Mobile target only Note 7s and not other phones that have Samsung parts? Is it purely based off of imei #s?
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Well the update that is pushed out is a Samsung update(impossible to install on a Nexus), not a Nexus 6p update, so there is zero chance these could be related. I have two 6ps and no issues so far, knock on wood, one has Samsung storage and the other is Toshiba.

@Lawlrus hey buddy!
sorry somewhat off-topic, since you said that the random reboot is a Nougat issue, i thought maybe you'll know something about home button bugs i am having on Nougat based custom Roms.
it always happens randomly, or especially after i apply a theme with substratum (rom i use have full oms support) theme apply correctly, but the home button stops responding like when i tap it to return home it just wont do.
and it works again either after a couple of hours, or when i reboot the phone it works again normally. (and the bug will return if i uninstall theme and install another theme.) is this issue related to substratum you think ?

Lawlrus said:
The battery shut down is an issue with nougat, put your tinfoil hat away
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I had it on Marshmallow so it can't be a Nougat problem. The fact Google are RMAing them outside warranty also shows its not something they can fix with software.

leondestiny said:
@Lawlrus hey buddy!
sorry somewhat off-topic, since you said that the random reboot is a Nougat issue, i thought maybe you'll know something about home button bugs i am having on Nougat based custom Roms.
it always happens randomly, or especially after i apply a theme with substratum (rom i use have full oms support) theme apply correctly, but the home button stops responding like when i tap it to return home it just wont do.
and it works again either after a couple of hours, or when i reboot the phone it works again normally. (and the bug will return if i uninstall theme and install another theme.) is this issue related to substratum you think ?
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I've noticed that as of late, and I don't understand what the issue is honestly. Normally after it happens, if I pull up recents and close all the windows, it works again
I'll have to start to take notice if its every ROM I'm on or if its isolated.
But yeah, its most certainly an issue with applying layers, as it just recently started happening and is the only time it happens. I do know that the substratum guys are making a ton of changes it seems as of late with the templates that themes are using, so its very possible that the next or a future sub update will fox the issues.

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I've noticed that as of late, and I don't understand what the issue is honestly. Normally after it happens, if I pull up recents and close all the windows, it works again
I'll have to start to take notice if its every ROM I'm on or if its isolated.
But yeah, its most certainly an issue with applying layers, as it just recently started happening and is the only time it happens. I do know that the substratum guys are making a ton of changes it seems as of late with the templates that themes are using, so its very possible that the next or a future sub update will fox the issues.
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awesome, i will try the recents trick.
thanks , i am glad i am not the only one with this issue !

I'm about to RMA my 6P again because it started happening over the Christmas weekend. I won't if the Lemon Law would apply at this point, but then again, they aren't repairing it, they are just sending me a different phone to replace this one.

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Should I send it back? Dodgy GPS.

I don't even use the GPS much but this my second Samsung mobile with a dodgy GPS, is it a hardware problem or a firmware issue?
How quick are Samsung at replacing/repairing handsets? I don't want to send the phone off and then not see it for a month.
Sorry to bump the thread but somebody must have some experience with returning phones to Samsung, how long does the process take?
Shocky2 said:
Sorry to bump the thread but somebody must have some experience with returning phones to Samsung, how long does the process take?
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I'm getting mine replaced.
I've just tried out the Galaxy S2 side by side with my existing San francisco (ZTE Blade), outside in clear daylight and I'm getting approximately:
9.8 (feet) with the San Francisco (£80 phone)
40 (feet) with the Galaxy S2 (£400 phone)
What makes it worse is that the Galaxy S2 even has an additional satellite locked on
i dont think you should get it replced just yet, a lot of people are reporting problems with accuracy...just wait it out till a fix comes along
skaif said:
i dont think you should get it replced just yet, a lot of people are reporting problems with accuracy...just wait it out till a fix comes along
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Do your saying it's a software glitch?
i would presume so, the fact that your getting gps lock and can see multiple sattellites means its working...my accuracy is never that great but works for navigation so its fine
skaif said:
i would presume so, the fact that your getting gps lock and can see multiple sattellites means its working...my accuracy is never that great but works for navigation so its fine
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O2 are doing a clean swap on Friday, so I'll hold out till then.
I was also experiencing some issues with the compass, but when I tried just now it seems to be much more responsive then it was the other day

Ghosting effect seen on all dark screens

I sent my 5x to the factory for repair of 2 issues. They fixed one issue but not the other and sent it back to me.
Everything on home screen shows up as "ghosting" images on all dark screens (ie: notifications, quickstart and dialer screens). So I get ghosts of all the home screen icons, google search bar, and my screen saver. They are whitish but have a little color. They get stronger as the display is turned up. Huawei is claiming it isn't an issue, but that it's normal and even sent me photos of this ghosting effect on the 5x they keep at the call center for reference (same OS and build as mine). I admit it looks similar to mine. Two supervisors said they see it on their own phones: a Lumia 950 and an iPhone 7. It showed up on my phone about 2 weeks after I upgraded to Marshmallow and was not there before. I've never seen this on any other phone. So they are implying I need to live with it because it's "normal" for this model. Comments please? I think they should have sent me a new phone.
Please check your phones and see if you have this ghosting effect also. If you do it will be obvious, not subtle.
do you have any screenshots showing it?
jkccl9 said:
do you have any screenshots showing it?
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Yes, I will try to provide you one.
Sorry, I tried two different ways to post a link with a pic, but the site won't let me. And I see no way to upload one directly. How do I do this? It says I can't because I haven't made enough posts.
I could email it to you, I guess. Please tell me the correct way to do this on here.
RobertS.. said:
Yes, I will try to provide you one.
Sorry, I tried two different ways to post a link with a pic, but the site won't let me. And I see no way to upload one directly. How do I do this? It says I can't because I haven't made enough posts.
I could email it to you, I guess. Please tell me the correct way to do this on here.
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Upload it in image hosting site and add a hyperlink over here.
Make sure that "Automatically parse links in text" option is unchecked.
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vsriram92 said:
Upload it in image hosting site and add a hyperlink over here.
Make sure that "Automatically parse links in text" option is unchecked.
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OK, will try what you said
I uploaded a pic to tinypic and tried to insert it here, but still no go.
I clicked on "insert image" but there is no option to uncheck. I also tried the icon that says "insert link. I cannot find any options that I can uncheck.. Sorry if I'm being dense. Could you be more specific please?
I had the same problem here running on EMUI 6.1.
after i played a game called BBTAN on my phone for a long time and i clicked it away to go to whatsapp or something, you could see the highscore of the game and some other stuff of it very vagely in the other app screens.
I thought it had to do with the heating up of the device and display after playing a game for like a long time... BUT...
I was allready planning to unlock my phone and upgrade to LineAgeOS (Cyanogenmod) 14.1 because i didnt like EMUI. SO, upgraded the software 2 weeks ago and never had the issue anymore ever since.... Very weird...
most probably the software issue, can be solved by either a factory reset or flashing any other custom rom
thilak devraj said:
most probably the software issue, can be solved by either a factory reset or flashing any other custom rom
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tried the EMUI factory reset before, still happened after that, no problems with it inAndroid Nougat Roms... CM13 did have it to!
Dafriss said:
tried the EMUI factory reset before, still happened after that, no problems with it inAndroid Nougat Roms... CM13 did have it to!
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this might be some specific roms issue, try random roms and use the one which solves it..
thilak devraj said:
this might be some specific roms issue, try random roms and use the one which solves it..
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Thats what i said , i allready fixed it, dont have any issues with it on nougat RR Rom!
Honor 5x ghosting issue
Dafriss said:
I had the same problem here running on EMUI 6.1.
after i played a game called BBTAN on my phone for a long time and i clicked it away to go to whatsapp or something, you could see the highscore of the game and some other stuff of it very vagely in the other app screens.
I thought it had to do with the heating up of the device and display after playing a game for like a long time... BUT...
I was allready planning to unlock my phone and upgrade to LineAgeOS (Cyanogenmod) 14.1 because i didnt like EMUI. SO, upgraded the software 2 weeks ago and never had the issue anymore ever since.... Very weird...
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Thanks for the reply. It was in my spam folder so I didn't find it until now.
I've never heard of EMUI 6.1. Is it possible you mean Android 6.1? To my knowledge, EMUI only goes up to 4.1 When I upgraded my phone to Android 6.0.1 in November, I didn't have the issue at first. About 2 weeks later it appeared. It has not gotten any worse, but their "repair" did nothing to fix it at all. And they did not include a note with any explanation, nor did they include the note I was promised explaining what they did do to the phone.
I am not comfortable with rooting my phone (I don't want to lose the warranty and I don't know what I'm doing). I don't think it should be necessary to root a phone to fix an issue like this. The company should either be able to fix it or replace the phone. I refuse to accept their (most recent) explanation that it is "normal", as I've never seen it on another phone and the first 3 agents I discussed it with agreed that it was indeed an issue and offered to start an RMA for it.
Yesterday I called them again to complain about the situation. The agent said she was "escalating" (I always groan when agents say this because it ends up being meaningless) the case and that I would hear back from administration after they hear back from tech support---which could take up to 2 weeks, believe it or not. I can live with the glitch, but when I decide to sell the phone eventually I'm concerned it will potentially kill the sale or encourage someone to offer less than the phone is worth.
ghosting issue
thilak devraj said:
most probably the software issue, can be solved by either a factory reset or flashing any other custom rom
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I have re-set it several times since encountering the issue with no success. I am not comfortable rooting the phone. I am trying to get a new RMA started, and in the meantime I'm hoping Nougat is released OTA soon and that it will help.
The reason for my original post was mainly to see how many other 5x owners have encountered the same issue. I want to know if this in an inherent problem with the phone, if the Marshmallow upgrade may have caused it (it didn't appear on my phone right away after upgrading to Marshmallow, but it did appear about 2 weeks afterwards).
RobertS.. said:
I have re-set it several times since encountering the issue with no success. I am not comfortable rooting the phone. I am trying to get a new RMA started, and in the meantime I'm hoping Nougat is released OTA soon and that it will help.
The reason for my original post was mainly to see how many other 5x owners have encountered the same issue. I want to know if this in an inherent problem with the phone, if the Marshmallow upgrade may have caused it (it didn't appear on my phone right away after upgrading to Marshmallow, but it did appear about 2 weeks afterwards).
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then , you have to take it service center..
oh, and btw, do not expect any nougat ota, there will not be anything official
thilak devraj said:
then , you have to take it service center..
oh, and btw, do not expect any nougat ota, there will not be anything official
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Thanks for the reply. Supposedly they already did release Nougat a few months ago but there were issues with it and they halted it. They keep telling me they will be releasing it again. So who knows?
I already did send it in to them for repair of two issues, this one and another. They fixed the other issue and sent the phone back to me with no explanation. I'm trying to get another RMA started and this time I will right on top of them about this. Unfortunately they make it impossible to communicate directly with their service center and I was told the service center is very slow returning communications to the administration or CS.
RobertS.. said:
Thanks for the reply. Supposedly they already did release Nougat a few months ago but there were issues with it and they halted it. They keep telling me they will be releasing it again. So who knows?
I already did send it in to them for repair of two issues, this one and another. They fixed the other issue and sent the phone back to me with no explanation. I'm trying to get another RMA started and this time I will right on top of them about this. Unfortunately they make it impossible to communicate directly with their service center and I was told the service center is very slow returning communications to the administration or CS.
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who alredy did released official nougat?? for what device??
you must be confsued, therse has not been a single official nougat release for honor 5x since emui started rollingo ut
thilak devraj said:
who alredy did released official nougat?? for what device??
you must be confsued, therse has not been a single official nougat release for honor 5x since emui started rollingo ut
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I'm not confused. It's what 2 different CSRs told me.
But that isn't why I made this post, and it's off-topic. There is only one point: Do you own an Honor 5X, and if so, do you have the same ghosting problem on dark screens that I have? I would love to get some responses from 5x owners. I have tried uploading pictures of it onto here, but am not able to. But this is a very obvious thing on my phone so you wouldn't need pictures if it occurs on your phone. You would know.

Android 7.1.2 Beta is live!!!!

Just my update. Hope we have Google Assistant.
No Google Assistant. No fingerprint gestures. Google failure company. The time came to buy iPhone.
Ben8200 said:
No Google Assistant. No fingerprint gestures. Google failure company. The time came to buy iPhone.
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Geez. I wonder how's your life going in general...
Ben8200 said:
No Google Assistant. No fingerprint gestures. Google failure company. The time came to buy iPhone.
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No Google Assistant. No fingerprint gestures. Apple failure company. The time came to buy Pixel.
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Geez. I wonder how's your life going in general...
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What? Take care of yourself. It's disappointing that I spent last year 750$ on Nexus 6P and I got problems with it like shut down off under 20% percent of battery life, while Apple has similar problems for their devices and they are fixing it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/5vygb8/if_apple_can_fixmitigate_the_issue_with_their/
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Just my update. Hope we have Google Assistant.
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Cool. Please let us know if you think it solved the problem of shut off below 20% (if you were experiencing that issue at all). It's a tough one to identify because for me it happens about half of the time, not all of the time.
Thanks. Good luck!
Ben8200 said:
What? Take care of yourself. It's disappointing that I spent last year 750$ on Nexus 6P and I got problems with it like shut down off under 20% percent of battery life, while Apple has similar problems for their devices and they are fixing it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/5vygb8/if_apple_can_fixmitigate_the_issue_with_their/
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No problem here. Hope you find the problem.
Disappointed that we don't get the assistant yet and no swipe on the fingerprint sensor. Other than that so far so good.
Enviado desde mi Nexus 6P mediante Tapatalk
Please can someone post up the build.prop for 7.1.2 beta. Thanks.
The 7.1.2 beta just installed on my phone and now I'm not getting any Google now cards. It just says can't reach your feed at the moment. Does anyone else have this problem?
sroach23 said:
The 7.1.2 beta just installed on my phone and now I'm not getting any Google now cards. It just says can't reach your feed at the moment. Does anyone else have this problem?
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I get same error intermittently on my Pixel XL right now, so it's not 6p-specific.
Does anyone know if any of the pixel mods work on the beta?
I extracted the boot and modified it with dm-verity and force encryption disabled. But now I'm not sure how to test, I would need the images and not the update zip to fastboot flash the rest of update Images. I guess one would just update then fastboot flash boot. Or does google post preview images elsewhere? My work pc has fastboot setup and I'll update then test and report back. If anyone wants to try it here's the link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/byjnhir714ngw21/dm-verity-encryptable-boot-npg05d.img?dl=0
I've read the finger print gestures were coming through the 7.1.2 beta and rumor has it 7.1.3 was getting Google assistant. But they did state "rumor has it" so don't know what's all in the 7.1.2 beta for us Nexus 6P folks.
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The 7.1.2 beta just installed on my phone and now I'm not getting any Google now cards. It just says can't reach your feed at the moment. Does anyone else have this problem?
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Yep had the same issue. Restarted phone now works as intended!
Are you all rooted? I couldn't get to boot with the OTA (no surprise) even after reflashing twrp & flashing su
JDROIDS said:
Cool. Please let us know if you think it solved the problem of shut off below 20% (if you were experiencing that issue at all). It's a tough one to identify because for me it happens about half of the time, not all of the time.
Thanks. Good luck!
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the problem is the battery, early battery degradation, they could mitigate this issue on the software side but it won't stop completely and the battery will keep getting worse.
I changed mine and no more shutdown and 2x more battery life.
and the reason why you only have this issue half the time is because if you use certains apps that use high voltage, it will trigger the shutdown (launching the the camera and taking picture is the easiest way to do it)
JDROIDS said:
Cool. Please let us know if you think it solved the problem of shut off below 20% (if you were experiencing that issue at all). It's a tough one to identify because for me it happens about half of the time, not all of the time.
Thanks. Good luck!
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It's still shutting down early on 7.1.2, nothings fixed.
sroach23 said:
The 7.1.2 beta just installed on my phone and now I'm not getting any Google now cards. It just says can't reach your feed at the moment. Does anyone else have this problem?
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This error is not due to android 7.1.2. I'm experiencing same on android 7.1.1 on my moto g having RR 5.8.2 rom.So, I guess it is more of a server side problem or a problem in google app itself
Ben8200 said:
Nexus 6P and I got problems with it like shut down off under 20% percent of battery life, while Apple has similar problems for their devices and they are fixing it.
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It's still shutting down early on 7.1.2, nothings fixed.
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I and my wife both had the early shutdown problems on our phones - she's on an iPhone6 and I'm on the 6p. I got an RMA phone, and no more problems (exactly the same software setup). I don't think it's a software problem, and highly suspect planned obsolescence where the batteries are designed to have cells have a life of around 18 months or so. One of the cells in the battery dies, and so the voltage drops off way fast once the remaining good cells discharge and the phone battery meter can't figure out what's going on. I'd bet a box of doughnuts that no software change is going to fix the actual problem. I have no proof of that, just skeptical observation.
If I were a black helicopter & tin foil hat person, I'd even have a hint of wonder if that's what happened to the Explod-a-Note. Maybe the manufacturers were pushing the envelope of how little past the warranty date they could get the (non-replaceable) batteries to die. AFAIK, battery tech isn't much more compact / more mAH in recent years, so just makes me wonder...

Strange issue. Can anyone help? It's urgent please.

I'm having the dreaded touch lag issue on my poco device.
I've sent it back for repair or refund but they refuse to do anything since the touch tests pass.
I tried explaining them my previous 3 years old device is fine and that the poco which is much newer and faster should do this and they don't listen to me, they say that the device is working like the manufacturer intended for it to work.
So, can anyone record a video?
It should only take 2-3 minutes to record and upload. Do it in 480p it doesn't matter as long as it shows the issue.
There are 2 ways to do it, the correct way, and the fast way, I'll write both.
1) Go to about phone, kernel version, tap a few times then CIT testing app will open. (if it doesn't open try again)
Then go to the top right and press the three dot menu, then additional tools, then touch sensor.
Then tap really fast on the edges of the display. If your device is working as intended the touches should all be registered.
2) Download realdrum, and tap really fast on the below drums on the edge of the display, If your device is working as intended the drums should register all the inputs without missing.
Again it's urgent, so I could use all the help I can.
Thank you.
Did you tried your device without a case? I read about cases doing this issued.
darkgizmo said:
Did you tried your device without a case? I read about cases doing this issued.
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Yes I have.
No change.
Is your device working correctly?
Could you upload a video?
Here's an example video of what the problem looks like.
Ignore that the language is not english, the video was recorded for the shop to see.
https://1drv.ms/v/s!Alh2bAGk6Iy4hQ5-Dc6Tu3UgRQzi
I feel for you. All the 7 pocophone I have tried have this annoying issue. I've complained and asked people about it, and who claims that theirs is working fine is either using Swiftkeyboard (which isn't as fast as Gboard), or simply doesn't know how to test this properly. Maybe they just don't notice it at all, but I doubt there's a single pocophone without this bug, and this is what made me give up on the phone.
v.redd.it/z0ph2ff4eys11
Here's what you probably need.
rylark said:
I feel for you. All the 7 pocophone I have tried have this annoying issue. I've complained and asked people about it, and who claims that theirs is working fine is either using Swiftkeyboard (which isn't as fast as Gboard), or simply doesn't know how to test this properly. Maybe they just don't notice it at all, but I doubt there's a single pocophone without this bug, and this is what made me give up on the phone.
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Jesus christ 7 pocophones?
Wow.
God damn it Xiaomi, how can they release a faulty device and take no responsibility for it?
Samsung went ahead and recalled all the Note 7s that had the battery issue, a much more expensive and higher selling device.
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Jesus christ 7 pocophones?
Wow.
God damn it Xiaomi, how can they release a faulty device and take no responsibility for it?
Samsung went ahead and recalled all the Note 7s that had the battery issue, a much more expensive and higher selling device.
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2 returned from a retail store, 2 from amazon, 1 that I tried from a store and 2 more from friends of mine. It's absurd how bad their quality control is. They claim that it's software, just like they claimed the screen bleeding was part of the phone. They're a ****ing joke.
Do you have a screen protector on , or to be more specific, a tempered glass one with the black band? If so this is your issue because the black band is slight raising the contact. Have you tried pressing the device harder to see it it registers?
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Do you have a screen protector on , or to be more specific, a tempered glass one with the black band? If so this is your issue because the black band is slight raising the contact. Have you tried pressing the device harder to see it it registers?
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No screen protector, pressing harder doesn't affected the usage.
Most of the units if not all have this problem, I canceled my order for this phone recently and I'm glad that I did. Xiaomi had to save on something and they did, sadly on the screen. Screens from tianma are known for their not very good quality ( rumors say that they catch afterimages after time ) and it feels bad that it turned out that this phone is a big no no. Screen is a numero uno thing when it comes to a phone, damn u look and type on it so despite the great specification this phone is a crap. People all over miui forum write threads that their pocophones have input lag and ghost touches. Xiaomi knows about it and since a month clam that they gonna fix it via ota updates. Let me tell you something they won't. It's not possible to fix it because it's a faulty digitizer that causes the problem which is obviously a part of the hardware. That's what happens when you try to rock the world with the best spec budget smartphone and u cut costs in the lcd panel area. With all that being said, don't fall for this phone. If you look for the good phone for 300 bucks then better option imo is for example Lg g6. Don't get fooled and stay open minded guys, peace.
exdeee said:
Most of the units if not all have this problem, I canceled my order for this phone recently and I'm glad that I did. Xiaomi had to save on something and they did, sadly on the screen. Screens from tianma are known for their not very good quality ( rumors say that they catch afterimages after time ) and it feels bad that it turned out that this phone is a big no no. Screen is a numero uno thing when it comes to a phone, damn u look and type on it so despite the great specification this phone is a crap. People all over miui forum write threads that their pocophones have input lag and ghost touches. Xiaomi knows about it and since a month clam that they gonna fix it via ota updates. Tell me tell you something they won't. It's not possible to fix it because it's a faulty digitizer that causes the problem which is obviously a part of the hardware. That's what happens when you try to rock the world with the best spec budget smartphone and u cut costs in the lcd panel area. With all that being said, don't fall for this phone. If you look for the good phone for 300 bucks then better option imo is for example Lg g6. Don't get fooled and stay open minded guys, peace.
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I completely and totally 100% agree with you.
Just waiting right now to get my refund.
I'll most likely get the OP6/T.
I dont have this issue. - using MIUI10 8.10.11
nfsmw_gr said:
I completely and totally 100% agree with you.
Just waiting right now to get my refund.
I'll most likely get the OP6/T.
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Good decision, refund this crappy phone and get something better. When it comes to me xiaomi just lost a supporter and follower, once Hugo Barra left xiaomi everything started to fall apart ( mi mix 2/2s are not as revolutionary as the first mi mix was or the mi 8 which is nothing else than a iphone x copy ). It's always good to wait and see the very first 3 months after a phone release, usually after this time most of the fails/cons come out. Have a good day anyways
exdeee said:
Most of the units if not all have this problem, I canceled my order for this phone recently and I'm glad that I did. Xiaomi had to save on something and they did, sadly on the screen. Screens from tianma are known for their not very good quality ( rumors say that they catch afterimages after time ) and it feels bad that it turned out that this phone is a big no no. Screen is a numero uno thing when it comes to a phone, damn u look and type on it so despite the great specification this phone is a crap. People all over miui forum write threads that their pocophones have input lag and ghost touches. Xiaomi knows about it and since a month clam that they gonna fix it via ota updates. Let me tell you something they won't. It's not possible to fix it because it's a faulty digitizer that causes the problem which is obviously a part of the hardware. That's what happens when you try to rock the world with the best spec budget smartphone and u cut costs in the lcd panel area. With all that being said, don't fall for this phone. If you look for the good phone for 300 bucks then better option imo is for example Lg g6. Don't get fooled and stay open minded guys, peace.
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Just tried using CIT as well as really drums. Problem has been solved in latest beta 8.10.18
U can try and confirm. Scrolling on the edges is also smooth now and even keyboard is working fine.
exdeee said:
Good decision, refund this crappy phone and get something better. When it comes to me xiaomi just lost a supporter and follower, once Hugo Barra left xiaomi everything started to fall apart ( mi mix 2/2s are not as revolutionary as the first mi mix was or the mi 8 which is nothing else than a iphone x copy ). It's always good to wait and see the very first 3 months after a phone release, usually after this time most of the fails/cons come out. Have a good day anyways
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Again you are right.
I became impatient with my old phone and that got the better of me.
Will keep those words at mind next time.
Have a good day as well pal.
sanjay0501 said:
Just tried using CIT as well as really drums. Problem has been solved in latest beta 8.10.18
U can try and confirm. Scrolling on the edges is also smooth now and even keyboard is working fine.
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Well, it doesn't change the fact that lcd panels in pocophones are poor quality. I don't really believe that they managed to fix it via updates, only time will tell after let's say a month if the problem is fixed. I don't think that it will, it's better to send the phone back, get ur money and wait. There are way better options for example the aforementioned one plus 6.
Working fine for me
For me it is working fine. I can't see the blue line which show the position but the touch is working fine even when I tap it fast. The touch is always registered without the blue lines. You can always see a red dot where you touched.
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Well, it doesn't change the fact that lcd panels in pocophones are poor quality. I don't really believe that they managed to fix it via updates, only time will tell after let's say a month if the problem is fixed. I don't think that it will, it's better to send the phone back, get ur money and wait. There are way better options for example the aforementioned one plus 6.
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If u own the phone try stable 9.6.25 ( I haven't tried) or beta 8.10.18 ( I have tried with all types of tests) and then comment
sanjay0501 said:
If u own the phone try stable 9.6.25 ( I haven't tried) or beta 8.10.18 ( I have tried with all types of tests) and then comment
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And you try to understand smart boy that input lag is related to a hardware problem not a software problem, go and check by the way miui forums. There are plenty of people commenting that 9.6.25 didn't fix a thing.
exdeee said:
Well, it doesn't change the fact that lcd panels in pocophones are poor quality. I don't really believe that they managed to fix it via updates, only time will tell after let's say a month if the problem is fixed. I don't think that it will, it's better to send the phone back, get ur money and wait. There are way better options for example the aforementioned one plus 6.
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Fyi op6 screen has high latency as well

General So.... about the Pixel 6

The Pixel, with its Tensor chip and machine learning, can somewhat adapt to the phone user's habits, right? That's why battery life improves, maybe the phone gets hot at first, then doesn't as I've seen people imply here (and was my experience), and so on.
Then you have all the complaints here. The phone sucks, it gets hot, the battery is terrible, etc. And when people do complain about bugs what is usually the first advice they get? Reset it. But in some cases isn't that exactly the wrong thing to do with this phone? With a device that adapts to your usage isn't a wipe the last thing you'd want to do? Or am I giving the whole "machine learning" thing too much credit? I ask because I visit a Telegram thread and a user there was complaining. Someone asked if he had reset the phone and he replied "yes, a few times".
I don't know about overheating and other problems, but w/r/t battery life? I agree. These phones absolutely get better battery life over time, and frequent resets are probably disruptive of that process.
In fact i am quite happy with this phone. If it was not the epic fail with the december update breaking phone connectivity and the way it was handled otherwise i don't have any problems. Camera is top notch especially when shooting in RAW and battery life for me is between 1 and 2 days (depends how much i use it). I think that with few more updates bugs will be fixed and we will have very good phone with regular updates just like the old pixels. The only thing i hope to change are these stupid 5G, volte and vowifi limitations imposed by google for most countries.
You will always get people complaining about any new phone/device.
Some people are more dramatic than others.
Any new device is not a 100% perfect. There will always be bugs on a new device.
Bottom line is if you hate it that much. Sent it back and get a refund.
Or buy a POS crapple and be a sheep.
Wait a second guys. Let's call a spade a spade. The device was not ready to be released until the December update was fixed. Past the 15 day period there is no returning the phone so put that aside, it's a non issue. You can't be saying that connectivity is fine, it's not. Don't even get me started on the FPR. Be real and acknowledge what is broken. Call screening is gone, on hold is gone, there is basically no transfer from wifi to network without a reboot. That is unacceptable and no amount of calling those complaining sheeple is going to change that. I've owned every Google device since they started coming out with hardware and this device is the worst they've ever released. Do I like the phone, yes I do. Would I trade it in, no. But there are serious problems and you must admit it without criticizing those that do. Calling Google out is not being unfaithful it's just being real.
edit: that being said I did bootloader unlock the device and I'm running ProtonAOSP non rooted. FPR is way better but connectivity is still the December radio which is awful. The rom is better that what Google has out now. Just sayin'.
android_dan said:
The Pixel, with its Tensor chip and machine learning, can somewhat adapt to the phone user's habits, right? That's why battery life improves, maybe the phone gets hot at first, then doesn't as I've seen people imply here (and was my experience), and so on.
Then you have all the complaints here. The phone sucks, it gets hot, the battery is terrible, etc. And when people do complain about bugs what is usually the first advice they get? Reset it. But in some cases isn't that exactly the wrong thing to do with this phone? With a device that adapts to your usage isn't a wipe the last thing you'd want to do? Or am I giving the whole "machine learning" thing too much credit? I ask because I visit a Telegram thread and a user there was complaining. Someone asked if he had reset the phone and he replied "yes, a few times".
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It doesn't adapt to anything except to determine what kind of advertising you would be most susceptible to so that gooble can target you most profitably. All this "AI" and "machine learning" crap is just buzz words that really do NOT imply any of the amazing scifi ideas of machines actually thinking. Don't get overly carried away with marketing buzzwords.
Nidstang said:
I don't know about overheating and other problems, but w/r/t battery life? I agree. These phones absolutely get better battery life over time, and frequent resets are probably disruptive of that process.
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Increased battery life is tied to calibrating the battery level gauge.
vandyman said:
You will always get people complaining about any new phone/device.
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You mean aside from apple, which is actually a fashion accessory and nobody actually expects it to work well. I see lots of apple people with nothing that works, and they just shrug it off as "that's just what phones are".
bobby janow said:
Wait a second guys. Let's call a spade a spade. The device was not ready to be released until the December update was fixed. Past the 15 day period there is no returning the phone so put that aside, it's a non issue. You can't be saying that connectivity is fine, it's not. Don't even get me started on the FPR. Be real and acknowledge what is broken. Call screening is gone, on hold is gone, there is basically no transfer from wifi to network without a reboot. That is unacceptable and no amount of calling those complaining sheeple is going to change that. I've owned every Google device since they started coming out with hardware and this device is the worst they've ever released. Do I like the phone, yes I do. Would I trade it in, no. But there are serious problems and you must admit it without criticizing those that do. Calling Google out is not being unfaithful it's just being real.
edit: that being said I did bootloader unlock the device and I'm running ProtonAOSP non rooted. FPR is way better but connectivity is still the December radio which is awful. The rom is better that what Google has out now. Just sayin'.
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Well said, and very true!
I am SO tired of users saying "well MY device works just fine, YOU must be doing something wrong!". That's exactly the response I see everywhere as soon as someone has any complaint about the P6. The "only" issue I had was the almost total loss of reception after the December update ... I'd like for those users to tell me how I did something wrong there? I wanted to root after the update anyway, so I unlocked, rooted and flashed the mid-November radio.img which brought my reception back up to the 3-4 bars I had before the botched Google update (which had taken it down to 0-1 bar).
Google just letting P6 users sit + wait now, those on locked bootloaders with crappy reception, is what pisses me off most of all. I am long past the 2-week return period so I'm stuck with the device. But I've been letting it sit, half the time on Airplane mode, on my desk for weeks now while my actual daily driver is the OP 5T.
I'm just waiting for "proper" custom roms now to finally get some options ... or until the eBay prices for the P6 go back up so I can sell it without losing too much. The next person that tells me that "Google are the best + fastest with updates for their devices!" will get tarred + feathered by me for sure
Nimueh said:
Well said, and very true!
I am SO tired of users saying "well MY device works just fine, YOU must be doing something wrong!". That's exactly the response I see everywhere as soon as someone has any complaint about the P6. The "only" issue I had was the almost total loss of reception after the December update ... I'd like for those users to tell me how I did something wrong there? I wanted to root after the update anyway, so I unlocked, rooted and flashed the mid-November radio.img which brought my reception back up to the 3-4 bars I had before the botched Google update (which had taken it down to 0-1 bar).
Google just letting P6 users sit + wait now, those on locked bootloaders with crappy reception, is what pisses me off most of all. I am long past the 2-week return period so I'm stuck with the device. But I've been letting it sit, half the time on Airplane mode, on my desk for weeks now while my actual daily driver is the OP 5T.
I'm just waiting for "proper" custom roms now to finally get some options ... or until the eBay prices for the P6 go back up so I can sell it without losing too much. The next person that tells me that "Google are the best + fastest with updates for their devices!" will get tarred + feathered by me for sure
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While you're waiting try ProtonAOSP rom then reflash the November radio. That's what I did and it's running rather swimmingly. Still some issues but definitely worth a shot especially if it's just sitting on the desk.
bobby janow said:
Wait a second guys. Let's call a spade a spade. The device was not ready to be released until the December update was fixed. Past the 15 day period there is no returning the phone so put that aside, it's a non issue. You can't be saying that connectivity is fine, it's not.
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I disagree. I don't deny that some people may have connectivity issues, but I can say that I do not. I find connectivity to be excellent. However, my carrier has only up to LTE, no 5G as of yet. This could be why, either flaws in 5G connectivity, or new and patchy 5G networks. Maybe try limiting it to LTE and see how that works out?
bobby janow said:
Don't even get me started on the FPR.
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Fingerprints are not good for security, especially when it comes to anti-self-incrimination laws, since it is not knowledge based. Consequently, I'd have to categorize finger print unlock to be more of a gimmick than a real feature.
bobby janow said:
Call screening is gone, on hold is gone,
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Hold works perfectly. Isn't call screening a feature of the google dialer?
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there is basically no transfer from wifi to network without a reboot.
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You must be mistaken about that. I transfer from wifi to carrier all the time -- MANY times per day, never had to reboot.
96carboard said:
I disagree. I don't deny that some people may have connectivity issues, but I can say that I do not. I find connectivity to be excellent. However, my carrier has only up to LTE, no 5G as of yet. This could be why, either flaws in 5G connectivity, or new and patchy 5G networks. Maybe try limiting it to LTE and see how that works out?
Fingerprints are not good for security, especially when it comes to anti-self-incrimination laws, since it is not knowledge based. Consequently, I'd have to categorize finger print unlock to be more of a gimmick than a real feature.
Hold works perfectly. Isn't call screening a feature of the google dialer?
You must be mistaken about that. I transfer from wifi to carrier all the time -- MANY times per day, never had to reboot.
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But you can't deny that many many many people are having serious problems. The fact that you're not is good for you. That's about it. Call on hold is gone. Perhaps you didn't know what I meant..
96carboard said:
I disagree. I don't deny that some people may have connectivity issues, but I can say that I do not. I find connectivity to be excellent. However, my carrier has only up to LTE, no 5G as of yet. This could be why, either flaws in 5G connectivity, or new and patchy 5G networks. Maybe try limiting it to LTE and see how that works out?
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I disabled 5G on day one since my carrier doesn't have 5G coverage in my area yet, and STILL the connectivity issues are there. Google stopped the OTA, admitted there are problems and then even deleted the files from their update server so YES, there is a huge connectivity problem on the P6(P). Just because YOU don't have those problems doesn't mean they don't exist
bobby janow said:
While you're waiting try ProtonAOSP rom then reflash the November radio. That's what I did and it's running rather swimmingly. Still some issues but definitely worth a shot especially if it's just sitting on the desk.
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Nah, those "custom" roms that are out yet don't have any customization (yet?), so I'll pass. I am helping test the Renovate Ice module though, which is slowly adding tweaks/features again. RiCE was the reason I was able to stay stock on my OP7 for 2 years, so fingers crossed it will help with this P6 too.
Nimueh said:
I disabled 5G on day one since my carrier doesn't have 5G coverage in my area yet, and STILL the connectivity issues are there. Google stopped the OTA, admitted there are problems and then even deleted the files from their update server so YES, there is a huge connectivity problem on the P6(P). Just because YOU don't have those problems doesn't mean they don't exist
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I suspect that you see a low reading in the signal meter and THINK that it means you have connectivity problems. Yes, it reads really low, but holds signals and works well despite that.
bobby janow said:
Call on hold is gone. Perhaps you didn't know what I meant..
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Perhaps you aren't explaining what you mean properly, because hold works perfectly.
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Perhaps you aren't explaining what you mean properly, because hold works perfectly.
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The hold for me while I'm waiting to speak with a representative. It will then alert you when someone picked up. That stopped working for me.. But really small potatoes compared to the other issues.
96carboard said:
I suspect that you see a low reading in the signal meter and THINK that it means you have connectivity problems. Yes, it reads really low, but holds signals and works well despite that.
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No, I didn't "think" it was bad - if calls don't go through or disconnect mid-call then that's not an issue with the display of the signal strength, but one with the SIGNAL itself. None of that happened any more after flashing the mid-November radio.img.
Why do you think Google stopped pushing the OTA and removed the files from their servers? Certainly not because they were bored, but because they KNEW there were issues.
So please stop assuming that 1000s of users are simply too stupid to handle a phone or only think they have an issue. YOU got lucky, great - but please don't treat those of us that have reception or fp or whatever issues like we don't know what we're doing!
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All this "AI" and "machine learning" crap is just buzz words that really do NOT imply any of the amazing scifi ideas of machines actually thinking. Don't get overly carried away with marketing buzzwords.
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That reply sure was a buzz kill. I was sure by this time next year the phone would be cutting my grass and doing the laundry.
vandyman said:
You will always get people complaining about any new phone/device.
Some people are more dramatic than others.
Any new device is not a 100% perfect. There will always be bugs on a new device.
Bottom line is if you hate it that much. Sent it back and get a refund.
Or buy a POS crapple and be a sheep.
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C'mon man, yes there's always people who complain at first or some growing pains.. But this phone has serious issues. I feel like people who are making light of these problems with the p6 are just trying to justify their purchase
opz187 said:
C'mon man, yes there's always people who complain at first or some growing pains.. But this phone has serious issues. I feel like people who are making light of these problems with the p6 are just trying to justify their purchase
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The only people that are having any issues are the people that keep their phone stock. And most of them do not even know that they have a bad device.
Most people that come to the XDA forums are modders of some sort.
I honestly do not have any issues after making changes to the P6 to suit me.
I understand some people are having issues and most are self inflected.

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