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The problem:-
1- restarts many times.
2-randomly shut down when i open Wi-Fi or apps or use it for more than 5 mins.
3-can't turn on sometimes and can't turn on using charger , only pc companion.
4-Burning Smell.
i know there's another thread talks about this problem but pleaese it's a serious common problem , i bought the mobile yesterday and i can't replace it , i've seen this post in SE forms : -
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It cost about more than 2 hours,and i sat near the engineer looked at what he was doing,everything.
1. He said before this one,he has fix 4 x10 with the same problem.He checked my phone and told me he must take the phone to parts,i agreeed.
2.The restart problem is neither a software problem nor briefly hardware problem.The reason most likely is welding procedure .Between X10's CPU and the chassis on the M/B there is no bayonet(i'm not sure it's the right word), so the closeness of them only depends on colophony(another word i use google to translate it) and solder (the third one).He said when x10 is koncked or bumped,fissure or something others may appear,and when CPU runs at a high level,the ammeter shows a number above 200mA,you can think its fever.Because goods expand with heat and contract with cold，here comes the flexibility.It may influence the contact between cpu and chassis.So the restart happens. He get the CPU off M/B,clear and rebuilt solder on them very carefully,and packed everything back.THIS COST TWO HOURS.
3.When parts became back to a phone,I push sim card,sd card back,truned it on,it booted successed.Then i run the Backup and Restore app,no problem.Before repaired erverytime i run it, the phone restarted.view www web use the brower by 3G, opened servel windows,no problem;Played Asphalt 5 for 10 mins,the phone became hot,still no problem.So i paid for it and left.That cost fuxk 500RMB,nearly 100$!!!!!!!!!!
4.When the engineer was soleing it, i talked to him,he said G7 also has a lot of problem,G7 use the smae CPU as x10,it also may restart.
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anyone tried this?????
please if anyone has fixed this problem (i know i can change the motherboard but it cost alot , I need Electric solve) . and it's not a software problem at all and n ot in the battry .
this is the best forms for PPC's so i don't have to post this in every site so better sign up and replay please maybe someone can help...
64 views and no answer -,-
and btw the phone works well when it's cold but it shut down when it's worm or using Wi-Fi or Calling . so to re-operate it you need to put it in air conditioner then but the battery back and switch on
So far no problem.
By the way the phone had no warranty?
yea , i bought it used and it looks that someone bought it from china and sell it here so the warranty doesn't cover my country.
thanx for telling me that x10 doesn't have another factory problems.
i send it today to one of those small repair places , they said the IC's are burned because of short circuit or something like that so we'll see what will happen tomorrow.
it cost me around 100$ but it doesn't matter as long it work.
sorry to say it but you buy cheap, you get cheap. might have to shell out for some repair work or ditch it and buy a new one. hard luck man.
hemo1001 said:
The problem:-
1- restarts many times.
2-randomly shut down when i open Wi-Fi or apps or use it for more than 5 mins.
3-can't turn on sometimes and can't turn on using charger , only pc companion.
4-Burning Smell.
i know there's another thread talks about this problem but pleaese it's a serious common problem , i bought the mobile yesterday and i can't replace it , i've seen this post in SE forms : -
............................................................................................................
It cost about more than 2 hours,and i sat near the engineer looked at what he was doing,everything.
1. He said before this one,he has fix 4 x10 with the same problem.He checked my phone and told me he must take the phone to parts,i agreeed.
2.The restart problem is neither a software problem nor briefly hardware problem.The reason most likely is welding procedure .Between X10's CPU and the chassis on the M/B there is no bayonet(i'm not sure it's the right word), so the closeness of them only depends on colophony(another word i use google to translate it) and solder (the third one).He said when x10 is koncked or bumped,fissure or something others may appear,and when CPU runs at a high level,the ammeter shows a number above 200mA,you can think its fever.Because goods expand with heat and contract with cold,here comes the flexibility.It may influence the contact between cpu and chassis.So the restart happens. He get the CPU off M/B,clear and rebuilt solder on them very carefully,and packed everything back.THIS COST TWO HOURS.
3.When parts became back to a phone,I push sim card,sd card back,truned it on,it booted successed.Then i run the Backup and Restore app,no problem.Before repaired erverytime i run it, the phone restarted.view www web use the brower by 3G, opened servel windows,no problem;Played Asphalt 5 for 10 mins,the phone became hot,still no problem.So i paid for it and left.That cost fuxk 500RMB,nearly 100$!!!!!!!!!!
4.When the engineer was soleing it, i talked to him,he said G7 also has a lot of problem,G7 use the smae CPU as x10,it also may restart.
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anyone tried this?????
please if anyone has fixed this problem (i know i can change the motherboard but it cost alot , I need Electric solve) . and it's not a software problem at all and n ot in the battry .
this is the best forms for PPC's so i don't have to post this in every site so better sign up and replay please maybe someone can help...
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my friend I am sorry but there is no quick fix for something like this. To repair SMT type circuit boards you need a clean room environment and also some very expensive equipment. My advice is to get a new handset, there are a few people on here that need some parts for their phones and you can off set the cost of a new handset that way.
thanx for the advice , i'll replace it with one that works and with a warranty . this will be my last time buying cheap S***, i really like it and i hope they release android 2.0 soon for it.
hemo1001 said:
thanx for the advice , i'll replace it with one that works and with a warranty . this will be my last time buying cheap S***, i really like it and i hope they release android 2.0 soon for it.
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As I said there are people who need parts, so it will not be a total loss!
where are you located? I need a few bits.
Tomorrow i'll sell it with around 150 dollar, i'll replace it with another X10 but with WARRANTY this time
just found this thread and it seems to describe my problem with my x10. If the crashing is heat related would using a cpu underclock help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831658 for more info
my phone doesnt charge the battery, but charging animation is playing, gave to service centre,they told motherboard replacement,but that told we dont do for the handsets without warranty.... pls help how can i sort this prob.
I don't agree with the first post, I had this problem too, and the problem was bad, but as soon I as I flashed with the latest firmware, that problem seems to have been fixed, gone by 2 days without any restarts.
i also have this problem.
The worse is now my charged battery will become red low batt at first and recharge itself back to normal without plug in power...i think i just solve the world energy problem here.
May have fixed the problem, for a bit.
I bought one of these used (x10a), I basically got ripped off by some guy that must have known about the issue. Anyway, I tore the phone apart down to the screen, I left that intact. I cleaned the housing, motherboard and sound jack with compressed air (lightly), cleaned contacts that looked a little dull. I noticed the foil covering the CPU and other components was a little askew and there were some heat bubbles forming. I used a mini spatula as a squeegee and got rid of the bubbles, cleaned up the edges around the foil to insure they didn't contact their neighbors and put the thing back together.
Before this I could use the phone for a call for longer than 2 minutes, the second I ended the call it would crash/reboot. Same with playing games and listening to music at the same time. Movies, forget it. I don't want to curse it because it has only been a day, but no crashes yet and I'm doing/running everything I can to try and get this thing to crash. If it was the bubbles contacting other metal in the chassis then they will probably return sometime in the future.
Who knows.
For now, I say it's fixed. I hope.
I downloaded the schematic and disassembly, reassembly instructions off the net.
UPDATE: Cleaning did not work, I really didn't think it would but it was worth a try. I did however rebake the main board in my convection oven for 10 minutes at 210 degrees Celsius and it worked. I have uploaded videos to youtube. If you're like me, no warranty and don't mind tearing things apart. Check out my videos on youtube, do a search for MrSpywhite.
I had the same problem and SE replaced the motherboard.
spywhite said:
UPDATE: Cleaning did not work, I really didn't think it would but it was worth a try. I did however rebake the main board in my convection oven for 10 minutes at 210 degrees Celsius and it worked. I have uploaded videos to youtube. If you're like me, no warranty and don't mind tearing things apart. Check out my videos on youtube, do a search for MrSpywhite.
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That sounds like good news, I have a friend with a similar problem, but his phone has the same behaviour faster than yours... did really work? any problems after the bake? (mic, speaker) ?
Sorry for bumping in a old thread but I am also facing the same problem i guess. Anyone got it to work ?
The motherboard is costing me Rs.8000 ( 160$ approx ) and its a 2 yr old phone. Cant spend that much now on such an old phone.
This solution might help on that cases, as main reason for such things are Pb free soldering (small balls between CPU and MB).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37819145&postcount=12
Of course you do it on your own risk...
Hi everyone,
It's kind a special question because of the following :
- Xperia Ray is my girldfriend device. I'm iPhone 4 user (hopefully XPERIA S user when ICS will be launched on it).
-> I'm not familiar with Android terms (flash, rom, bootloop, etc.)
- It must be an hardware problem due to the situation but still want to try the basic test with your help.
Now the fact :
My gf just dropped her SE XPERIA RAY as if she want to put it on table but she missed it... By the way the back protection opened on the small crash but the battery stay on the device.
XPERIA RAY doesn't boot so we try at home with the battery charger (with and without battery) -> that is the only way we can have a bootloop.
Description of the bootloop: (Ray is obviously power off) : when on charge it tries to power on(boot) (Sony Ericsson text logo) during 4-5sec then black screen (power off), 30s to 1mn later same process, looping during all the time battery charger is used.
No other way to have anything on the screen...
As I said it must an hardware but did you guys have any tests so I can try to boot entirely?
I try :
1- Simple power on : nothing
2- Simple power on + "home button" or + "volume up button" ou + "volum down button" : nothing
3- On Battery charger : boot loop
4- On battery charger + every possible physical button (as pt.2) : boot loop
5- Connected USB to PC : nothing ( so no PC-C software can be used to repair... )
6- Connected USB to PC with volume UP button pressed : nothing
I just don't understand why, in case of an hardware problem (something jumped away or moved during the crash), it can "try to" boot during few seconds (then bootloop as described before)...
I apologize for my poor english (I'm french) and will stay tuned to this topic for any complementary details...
If you have any suggestion...
By the way, I didn't by it on shop (it was second-hand but never used (still packaged)) so I didn't have warranty paper. Is there any way I can contact Sony Ericsson (Sony now...) to send us the device. It is a 2011 model, hopefully still on constructor warranty...?
Thank you in advance.
Nico.
I suppose you had it fully stock, because you are not familiar with Android.
If phone is turned off, start charging battery. Does the screen show charging screen?
Sony doesn't have own service centers, the only way to let them repair is taking back to the shop, where it was bought. In your case, you should visit local mobile repair shop, it just doesn't go under warranty then.
Someguyfromhell said:
I suppose you had it fully stock, because you are not familiar with Android.
If phone is turned off, start charging battery. Does the screen show charging screen?
Sony doesn't have own service centers, the only way to let them repair is taking back to the shop, where it was bought. In your case, you should visit local mobile repair shop, it just doesn't go under warranty then.
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The phone is always turned off and no I only have bootloop described on my first post.
Thank you for your answer about Sony SC. I already contact local mobile repair shop and off course they said me I won't be under warranty.
XPERIA RAY cost me about 200€, didn't want to repair it for 100€ ^_^
Did you think I can sell it (for pieces) and how much?
Thank you again for the quick answer, apreciate.
Since you are unable to enter also flashmode, there is some bigger error in hardware.
About selling pieces...I don't think you could sell it, maybe screen for someone, who has ruined it, but other parts will probably stay for you.
But, as for the phone more...200€ brick. At least you could use your phone for some throwing contest, I have heard about some phone throwing contests...maybe you can win a new one
Sorry, but I am out of ideas for now.
I can sell screen & battery...
Thank you
First of all, why shouldn't it be under warranty? If you have the receipt, just take it where you bought it from and tell them to fix it. You dont have to tell them that dropping it caused it to bootloop, i have dropped my Active loads of times, and the only thing that would make the shop where i bought it that i screwed up is if i brought it piece by piece to them
Take it to get fixed. Just tell them it started doing it this morning.
dumraden said:
First of all, why shouldn't it be under warranty? If you have the receipt, just take it where you bought it from and tell them to fix it. You dont have to tell them that dropping it caused it to bootloop, i have dropped my Active loads of times, and the only thing that would make the shop where i bought it that i screwed up is if i brought it piece by piece to them
Take it to get fixed. Just tell them it started doing it this morning.
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He wrote, that he bought it second-hand, but didn't get warranty card or receipt.
Warranty is also kept through the phones IMEI. Thats hiw I git my G2 repaired. Call SE and check on your warranty statys. It should be under warranty...
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IBremen said:
I can sell screen & battery...
Thank you
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mine selling the phone to me cheap?
Okay so I know this is a kind of an old thread but I want people to know how to solve this issue as I had it too.
The moment your xperia ray fell from the table it absorbed an ammount of shock and blablabla, anyways the shock vibrates through the body and in most cases will mess up your battery contacts!
Mine was the most right one of the 3 battery contact sets which had been pushed in and thus not being able to connect or just slightly making it impossible to boot from the battery itself.
How to fix it?
There are 2 ways to fix it if your battery contacts have been damaged (if you don't know for sure you can still try them, I am not responsible for any damage you may do though!)
1. get a pincet and softly pull the contacts back, they are spring loaded and the shock probably got them stuck inside of the machine. A slight pull will do.
2. get a 2mm thin card (cellphonecard or something) and cut a tiny piece of it. Then before you insert the battery just put the piece of the card in the corner of the lower side of the battery input place. Then place the battery and push it down till you can attach the back cover.
Et voila, your device should boot, charge and be recognized by the pc again!
Thanks a lot, this last solution fixed mine
i was looking at an app off market which said to create partition for linux swap, fool me i just install it and did follow its instruction. and by the way i was using my phone fine for a while but then i reboot my phone and thats it, in never turned back on.
i tried every possible options to fix it, all the soft mod options including the jig, but so far no luck, any ideas?
If the jig doesn't work you're out of luck. Service centre job & hope they don't notice/care it's been messed with or maybe repair by 3rd party repairer if you end up having to pay for it.
i did took it to samsung repair, but they are saying that my phone is water damaged, while i never ever been near water with my phone, i told em use jtag and flash it, but they insist its water, i got around 5 month warranty left but this dam cnts, cant fix it
Take it to a local mobile repair shop if they refuse to fix it. That surprises me, I would have thought they would fix it if you pay for it. Which you should - water damage isn't covered by warranty (you can debate this with them till the cows come home, tends to be a waste of time), and a hardbrick caused by you isn't either. That certainly tends to be the experience on here (them repairing it at cost to you).
My i717 has the dreaded "No Sim Card" error. I have tried going back to Stock via Odin. I have replaced the Sim Card board. The problem is still happening.
Reading past threads, it seems like my only options are (a) sending the phone back to Samsung for an out of warrenty repair, or, (b) replacing the motherboard.
For those who have opted for Option A (sending it back to Samsung), how much did the repair run you? Was it more than the base $70?
I bought a mainboard from ebay for $100 because my gps connector to the antenna broke off. You can probably find a cheap phone with a smashed screen and take is mainboard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7wZr55Hot4
I believe you can find the replacemnt board on ebay for abour 12 dollars US.
Please do remember, its not just the replacement cost, just be careful not to break it completely. I am always afraid of messing it up further. but still Good Luck.
Butchr said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7wZr55Hot4
I believe you can find the replacemnt board on ebay for abour 12 dollars US.
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Less actually. Unfortunately, I tried this replacement and it didn't work.
Hence the decision to replace the motherboard.
the phone on like usual , put aside.. when want to use take it and saw it in boot screen.., wait quite long still stuck there.. take off battery and put back in straight cant turn on.. any idea to revive it?
download/cwm mode both not working... tried press 3 together and insert battery also no respond.. charge no respond too... is it mobo dead symtom?
EDIT: Charge it will hot but no respond
Same advice as this thread (I.E try the things I suggested to that person); though in your case it's 99.999999% likely you're going to need a motherboard replacement if you intend to keep the phone.
MistahBungle said:
Same advice as this thread (I.E try the things I suggested to that person); though in your case it's 99.999999% likely you're going to need a motherboard replacement if you intend to keep the phone.
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i cant find usb jig over here...
the person sttill able to go downlad or cwm.. this phone unable to turn on.. tried jump start by holding 3 button and insert battery do not work..
can i know how long should i hold the 3 button? as the post say too many people release early..
if the mobo really spoilt, will it affect the internal memory? for example i sell it to faulty phone shop, do they able to recover? if not maybe sell it and get a new phone
1) You hold the buttons as long as you have to - if it hasn't booted into download mode having held the buttons for twenty seconds, it won't be ever.
2) You can order a jig on eBay; you don't have to find one 'over here'.
3) Nobody can access your internal memory (including you). It's probably dead anyway.
If you decide to keep the phone, you get a motherboard replacement. If you sell it as is, expect to get very little money for it (the only part useful to someone else will probably be the screen).
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1) You hold the buttons as long as you have to - if it hasn't booted into download mode having held the buttons for twenty seconds, it won't be ever.
2) You can order a jig on eBay; you don't have to find one 'over here'.
3) Nobody can access your internal memory (including you). It's probably dead anyway.
If you decide to keep the phone, you get a motherboard replacement. If you sell it as is, expect to get very little money for it (the only part useful to someone else will probably be the screen).
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it will turn hot when i plug charger on it.. so it considered death too?
planning to sell it out but only concern people have chance revive it back and get data inside..
Correct. Heat at the back + no boot = one or more components on the motherboard have died. It is impossible to read the data off an EMMC in these situations
As I said in my PP, if you sell it, the only thing which be useful for whomever buys it is the screen, assuming they don't replace the motherboard & get the phone working again, and as the EMMC is on the motherboard, new board = new EMMC.
Nobody is going to access your data if you sell it (and even if they could, why would they ? You're paranoid/read too much of the hysteria the tech media push as 'journalism'); it's gone (and I'm not saying this again, twice is my limit).
MistahBungle said:
Correct. Heat at the back + no boot = one or more components on the motherboard have died. It is impossible to read the data off an EMMC in these situations
As I said in my PP, if you sell it, the only thing which be useful for whomever buys it is the screen, assuming they don't replace the motherboard & get the phone working again, and as the EMMC is on the motherboard, new board = new EMMC.
Nobody is going to access your data if you sell it (and even if they could, why would they ? You're paranoid/read too much of the hysteria the tech media push as 'journalism'); it's gone (and I'm not saying this again, twice is my limit).
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credit card data etc.. the phone is my bro 1.. i just asking... yesterday he told be that he bring to phone shop for last time before purchase.. the phone repair people say IC dead,, replace cost less than 100.. but dont know which IC, data depend on which IC...
You can replace the entire motherboard for around the same price. We've seen a number of posts over the past 12 mths or so with this 'replace power IC' fix suggested, but nobody has posted after saying the repair was carried out successfully.
It involves replacing an individual component on the motherboard, these components are tiny, and Samsung service centres/almost all other repairers won't even attempt such a repair. If this repair is unsuccessful, you will end up having to pay for a motherboard replacement + the cost of the failed repair.
So if the plan is to keep the phone, insist on motherboard replacement. You can source a 2nd hand one online yourself & pay a mobile repair shop to do the replacement (and many mobile repair shops may even be able to source one for you), and as I said in my first para, this will cost you not a lot more than what you've been quoted for this dubious repair, but you will pretty much guarantee to fix the phone first time unless there's other components not working.
By all means choose the option you've been given (replacing the individual component), but be aware there's a fair chance it may not work, and if this is the case you'll end up with extra expense if you end up needing the motherboard replaced.
If it was me, I'd want it fixed right the first time.
Anyways, this is my last post to this thread. Nothing personal, but I've given you the options, up to you/your brother to decide what you want to do, no amount of further to-ing/fro-ing in this thread is going to change that.