This may have been answered, but a search didn't come up with any results. Is version Android 7.1.1 expected to be released for the Z5c? Thanks.
Probably not, they barely fixed bugs, security updates..
90 days and no update what so ever ,
they ditched Z5 line
thats one of the main reasons why its my last sony (Z5C= 2nd one)
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Probably not, they barely fixed bugs, security updates..
90 days and no update what so ever ,
they ditched Z5 line
thats one of the main reasons why its my last sony (Z5C= 2nd one)
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Sadly, this is probably my last Sony too. I like the size, but my first one (Z1C) died minutes after the warranty end. My Z5C has run hot from the first day, so I expect failure before the 2-year mark, which is my normal usage cycle. I've already sent it in for early battery failure. Right now I'm thinking about the Samsung S8; nice width, although a bit tall. Also hoping the new Pixel is to my liking (and my Z5 last til it's released). I like the idea of fast OS updates. If someone else released a mid to high-end priced phone similar in size to the Z5C, i'd look at it very closely.
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Sadly, this is probably my last Sony too. I like the size, but my first one (Z1C) died minutes after the warranty end. My Z5C has run hot from the first day, so I expect failure before the 2-year mark, which is my normal usage cycle. I've already sent it in for early battery failure. Right now I'm thinking about the Samsung S8; nice width, although a bit tall. Also hoping the new Pixel is to my liking (and my Z5 last til it's released). I like the idea of fast OS updates. If someone else released a mid to high-end priced phone similar in size to the Z5C, i'd look at it very closely.
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yup also i choose the z5C because of his size i had WT19 that had 3.2"inch display
also waterproof and two speakers, and figerprint , headphone jack, its important to me
i considerd Huawei Nexus 6P OR \ Samsung S6, HTC M9 , but they were 2 big or missing feature, or the mini models specs were too low , sony only the RAM was lower (and screen res)
this phone got so many bugs and hardware problems heat \battery drain , speakers problems, OS, and more... and they dont fix the software anymore.
when this phone will die.. ill go with samsung( altough i dont like the edge thingy) or HTC if headphone jack will included
C'mon guys. Comapring Z5 line to others from 2015 it is still good in term of updates. Comparable is only HTC M9, S6 barerly got 7.0 month ago, G4 stuck on 6.0, same as OnePlus 2
X series was just updated yesterday to 7.1.1. I think Z5 line would (or rather, should) be updated one last time before Sony abandons it.
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X series was just updated yesterday to 7.1.1.
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I hope that in July will release 7.1.1 and then upgrade to 7.1.2.
For Z5P appeared firmware 32.4.A.0.160, I hope it's 7.1.1.
Yip 32.4.A.0.160 is 7.1.1 should be out soon for the Z5C
http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/06/28/android-7-1-1-nougat-xperia-z5-z4-tablet-z3-plus-32-4-a-0-160/
Updates 32.4.A.0.160 started also on Z5 compacts
https://xpericheck.com/device/E5823
https://xpericheck.com/device/E5803
Nice... Hope to keep my Z5C for another 12 months before I look gor upgrade.
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I recently came across a bunch a rumors that Sony plans to release another flagship phone, Z3, in 2014 6 months after the Z2 is released. So basically the same scenario with the Z1 and Z2.
Is this a wise move from Sony? Wouldn't it just anger customers as they will have just purchased their newest flagship only to be replaced by another 6 month later so that feeling of having the latest Sony phones dies out. By the time one finishes their contract 3 new Sony flagships would have been released, that takes the piss.
I am guessing this would also cause updates to be even slower since they have more models to focus on, or they could just drop the older models which again is sad.
What do you guys think?
I think its important so Sony can become a force to recon with.
In the second half of the year the newer S805 chipset will be out, thus Z3 is a much needed upgrade over Z2 to keep Sony ahead of the competition.
If you look at it, Samsung releases a new flagship every 6 months too, in the form of Galaxy S lineup and Galaxy Note lineup.
Sony has been releasing a flagship or improved variant every six months for years. Count on another this holiday season.
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6 month release cycle is their philosophy for always being able to stay cutting edge and have the latest hardware offerings.
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As long as Sony doesn't skimp on the design and improvements, I think it's great that they release a flagship every 6 months. After all, even if they don't, someone else will release a phone with better specs in that time frame and your phone still won't be top of the line anymore. That's just the way technology works.
Probably a Z Ultra 2
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I recently came across a bunch a rumors that Sony plans to release another flagship phone, Z3, in 2014 6 months after the Z2 is released. So basically the same scenario with the Z1 and Z2.
Is this a wise move from Sony? Wouldn't it just anger customers as they will have just purchased their newest flagship only to be replaced by another 6 month later so that feeling of having the latest Sony phones dies out. By the time one finishes their contract 3 new Sony flagships would have been released, that takes the piss.
I am guessing this would also cause updates to be even slower since they have more models to focus on, or they could just drop the older models which again is sad.
What do you guys think?
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they said 6months but didn't mention XZ3!
as year policy they won't release any huge improvements cause XZ1 will remain main flagship for this year.
maybe in CES15 they release something really huge.
But we can be sure about expected specs for that;
no more than 3GB RAM
and in my opinion they will clock cpu on 2.5GHz
display won't be more than 5.2" for smartphone but different design is 100%
and other feature will be just tweaks of current features.
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I guess it's good for Sony to do this but it does make people with their phones feel like crap since they get outdated very fast.
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I guess it's good for Sony to do this but it does make people with their phones feel like crap since they get outdated very fast.
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Sony needs to do that to capture as much market as it possibly could.
If it means angering a few... lets use the expression "passionate users", over an outdated phone because they have the need to always get the latest and greates - then so be it. This way they can capture people upgrading their contracts both at the beginning of the year - and at the end.
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Sony needs to do that to capture as much market as it possibly could.
If it means angering a few... lets use the expression "passionate users", over an outdated phone because they have the need to always get the latest and greates - then so be it. This way they can capture people upgrading their contracts both at the beginning of the year - and at the end.
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I totally agree with the whole idea of "making new flagship device every 6 months". However, with their current distribution strategy, that idea is worthless because consumers don't have access to their devices in a timely manner. This bottleneck is the greatest constraint that prevents them from capturing more market share, especially in US.
Whatever happens with the Z3 i hope Sony learn their bloody lesson and announce and release phones within a 4 week window like HTC and Samsung usually do... not this 2-3 month later bull crap.
@Fadeless
I don't know where you have been but sony is releasing a new flagship every 6 months since the year 2011. the reason or one of the reason for it is because the japanese consumer demands it. anyway, it doesn't really matter since most people buy an expensive phone for a good 3 years or more and you should buy what you like and be happy with your purchase regardless of what is coming in the future.
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they said 6months but didn't mention XZ3!
as year policy they won't release any huge improvements cause XZ1 will remain main flagship for this year.
maybe in CES15 they release something really huge.
But we can be sure about expected specs for that;
no more than 3GB RAM
and in my opinion they will clock cpu on 2.5GHz
display won't be more than 5.2" for smartphone but different design is 100%
and other feature will be just tweaks of current features.
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what I can confirmed:
2nd generation Omni Balance design
late Sep, 2014
integrated QI
late 2014 will release Z3 compact（4.6“）
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what I can confirmed:
2nd generation Omni Balance design
late Sep, 2014
integrated QI
late 2014 will release Z3 compact（4.6“）
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I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32 <-------------- This is a Joke, Right? Minimum acceptable 64GB!
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
They said that they will release another flagship this year and that they won't stick to a single design. So basically it doesn't necessarily have to be Z3... might be X1 or F1 or any other new series with a different design.
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I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32 <-------------- This is a Joke, Right? Minimum acceptable 64GB!
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
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YeeeeeeeeeeeeeS
I don't no why Sony use ( take 16 GB ) from Samsung !
Must take 32 GB
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I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as the Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes the price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with just AUD350 the phone has become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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I'm thinking the same as yourself, as it is becoming more affordable here in the US as well.
Seen it as inexpensive as $250, either new or gently used.
Only negative is no LED for flash, which means no light for emergency use.
I'm looking for an inexpensive LTE mobile phone, this MIGHT BE IT.
Another negative; no removable battery.
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If you have no real use for a camera, then yes this phone is still a beast.
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”screen flashlight ” in the Google play store works pretty well on our Z ultra.
I've had mine for about a year now, and it's still a very powerful device. You won't have any issues with running apps and games. Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
Screen is still very good, battery life is (still) good, camera is not great, and performance is top notch. It was worth it to me when I paid $1000 for it a year ago, and it's definitely worth it now.
Check out the reviews and stuff on YouTube or something if you're still not sure.
I was afraid at first i thought it will be too big. But now i can imagine myself having smaller Screen even samsung Note seems small now, Too small.
As it has been said, if don't care for the Camera much Z Ultra is the Best.
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Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is now over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes it to price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with AUD350 the phone has just become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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Depends on how you look at it. If performance is the metric, you won't be disappointed. if you use camera extensively, well look elsewhere. and the last one, the battery life. It's quite good but if you compare with devices nowadays, there are better alternative. I'd say wait for the Z3X (if ever) in about a month. If it doesn't come up, then i can imagine the Z Ultra will be cheaper along the way.
Thank you all for your inputs!
I personally do not use mobile cameras for artistic purposes. I already have a Dslr so the camera is only for note-taking or public transport schedule. I think I just want a phone that is slightly faster than my HTC M7. It's true that there are better performers out there since this is a year old phone but any faster CPU than a Z Ultra has little to do with my uses.
Also there isn't a mobile phone at the moment that is as massive as this. I love the idea that I could read books with it in my bed. The Galaxy Note Pro is too heavy to hold in the hand for a long period of time.
The only bummer is the speaker. I have been spoiled by the M7's speakers for a year plus, very little devices top its superb sound quality. It will be the only downgrade for me should I go for this phone.
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Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
18 months supposedly. The Z Ultra should receive L, but the Z3 and Z2 should get it first. I would guess at least a few months or more after L is released.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
However Ultra hasn't been selling as well as they'd like they have probably even given up on releasing a successor.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
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Im sure it will get L, but I personally don't think we should expect more.
Recently, got a Z Ultra (from a Mega 6.3). Don't regret it for the most part. Screen isn't the brightest in direct sunlight (not that the mega was that much better), Camera quality isn't as good as my mega imo, sound is lower (that my mega) I'm assuming because of the waterproofing, and kinda a fingerprint magnet. Other than that no complaints.
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Normally 18 months?. I would think the GPe will get L before the Sony ZU. it was months before we got 4.4, although we did get 4.4.4 very fast
Just bought a second hand for AU$300. This shady guy sold me one with overheat issue. The phone isn't even very hot but it just freezes on me and stuck in boot loop.
BOOT LOOPS, My Favorite Breakfast Cereal!
The reason may well be because of the fact the BEAST is having one of America's favorite breakfast cereals...Boot Loops! After several minutes of this heat is generated in the upper left corner around the camera area. Liken it to running around a track numerous times - it takes a toll on it/you physically.
I've read it on one of the threads several times over the months just after the XZU became available as a GPe. Many new users were trying to root, flash ROM's, and fix the partitions since they're different on the GPe's and their devices suffered the boot loops too.
Download Flashtool, run a TA Backup and then flash a stock .ftf if that's what your looking to do. Providing this device is not HOT. Why would one sell a BEAST of a device with a bad case of the boot loops to begin with? Better yet why on earth would you buy one in that condition? All kinds of flags would've/should've been raised - didn't you even question how it got that way or why it was in that state to begin with?
They have these bad boys are selling for $314.99 at http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-c6833-unlocked-lte-16gb-black-251963/ in the United States. Expansys sells internationally direct from the comfort of your own safe and legal hideout. THAT would've been a more prudent thing to do AND you would've gotten a warranty on top of it!
Just sayin'
Was eager to test this when I got it yesterday. Starting the camera takes a long time, up to 7-8 secounds!
Anyone else? I also feel the phone is general luggish. Just came from A Galaxy S6 wich is really fast in every way.
Mine too is really slow. Seems a bit more responsive while charging...
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Was eager to test this when I got it yesterday. Starting the camera takes a long time, up to 7-8 secounds!
Anyone else? I also feel the phone is general luggish. Just came from A Galaxy S6 wich is really fast in every way.
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HiCfager;63067557
Exactly the same for me also coming from a S6, maybe with 3gb ram S6 better?
Uninstalled AVG and some google stuff and a bit quicker? maybe AVG?
Don't really see if it slow. Few apps on the same time using gps and wifi/mobile data like Endomondo, OruxMaps, Here + YouTube and switching between them is without problems.
But starting apps - I agree - isn't that fast. The camera starts very slow, slower than Samsung S3 i9300 or Samsung A5.
Mine takes about 2 second (locked screen, holding camera button). I uninstalled most of bloat and disabled camera apps.
indeed it is bit laggy compared to z3compact - i can hope it will be fixed in the next software update
Is it that laggy like on the video below?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om8LHKMwjU
Hell no! Is is rather compared to Z3c Ui performance It can be slow while restoring apps and I hope this was thenissue on that video.
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Slower than my z3c. Might as will stick with my z3c than.
Can't believe this is the case, must be true if many of you are witnessing this considering this is not even available to the masses yet.
Disappointed top say the least
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Is it that laggy like on the video below?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om8LHKMwjU
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After changing the home screen app to Nova luncher it's better.
But some stumbles a micro-twitches are visible on longer lists (30 elements - 4 full screens of scrolling).
The most problematic list is the list of widgets - the lag is very visible.
I've recorded the screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AATep4o83tM
It seems that it haven't influenced the efficiency of device.
on 00:10 there is scrolling and the comparition to status bar opening.
on 01:03 is scrolling in gReader
Just saw the YouTube video from above
That's drasticly slow
I think that this problem is going to be solved in near future and that this guy from the video have to have a broken model. I'm definitly buying this phone, but I will wait for about a month to see if this is common problem or not. Also I'd like to see some price drop.
Well I wanted a compact..... I live in the USA. When they were announced I was disappointed with the build quality but still wanted a yellow or white one. Since I have to import it, I come to learn yellow and white are carrier exclusives and not available unlocked. I ordered a normal Green Xperia Z5 instead. I'm coming from a Note Edge, the screen size will be a lot less of a change than going to a compact. I've been still debating cancelling the Z5 and getting a compact. This slowdown might be the final nail in the coffin for the compact for me. Hopefully the extra gig of ram in the Z5 helps it fare better. I really don't want the z5 compact to do bad, I want all Sony phones to sell well, as I like the Xperia brand and Sony needs a win.
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I think that this problem is going to be solved in near future and that this guy from the video have to have a broken model. I'm definitly buying this phone, but I will wait for about a month to see if this is common problem or not. Also I'd like to see some price drop.
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Well I am going to wait for the Amazon release (I mean dispatched by Amazon). (I've pre ordered it in Amazon.it with shipping to Spain).
So If I have some kind of problem...I could return it easily and wait more time for a (potential) new revision of this phone.
But two things:
1) A lot of common issues (I'm seeing on the web) could be fixed with a software update.
2) There is no Z5 compact replacement. The only good alternative is the Z3 compact, which is a hi-end 2014 Phone with probably 1-2 years more of Android updates, and (at least where I am living) there is no big difference in price. (I'm currently using a Nexus 5 2013 and I can't stand this size anymore, I want something smaller, comfortable in one hand, like my old Galaxy Nexus, and the Z5 compact is the only one with similar size).
I am wondering what to do as well. I have a z3 compact now, with the ill famed spontaneous cracked back (it happened while I held it in my hand) and really wanted the,z5 compact. But should I pay so much money for a new flagship that's slower than my 1 year old phone?
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Mine is getting delivered. I might return before opening.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/help/ultimate-fixes-battery-lag-camera-t3241173
solution...
I have changed from z3c to z5c and find 5c much slower and more sluggish than 3c. Hard to believe that a newer phone is so much worse than the old one. Camera quality may be better but it crashes as well so not very useful.
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I have changed from z3c to z5c and find 5c much slower and more sluggish than 3c. Hard to believe that a newer phone is so much worse than the old one. Camera quality may be better but it crashes as well so not very useful.
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Slow like the video or just opening apps?
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I think if you havent started it for a while it takes longer, like 3-4 seconds. Once its been started once, from the home screen it takes about 1-2 seconds. I think starting with the camera button while locked adds like 2 seconds.
Hello everyone I have a question that I'd like opinions on if possible. I had a z5 compact and sold it because I wanted to try a nexus 5x. I loved the smoothness of stock Android but the size was just ridiculous for a 5.2" screen. So I gave the phone to my 14yo son who needed a phone after his Iphone 6 was acting up. I really miss the z5c and I'm using an old z3c right now. so I was all set to purchase the US model(even though no fingerprint reader) I didn't think it worked great anyway..but here's the thing, I know that htc, lg, and Samsung are coming within weeks. With my main criteria ease of use with one hand, the lg may be too big right of the bat. My hangup with Samsung is that the s6 I had, had terrible battery life and the lag because of TouchWiz. HTC has me intrigued but not sure about sense UI. So should I wait to see the actual phones when they arrive or is the z5c still a good contender? Part of me wants to just buy the z5c and wait for Marshmallow but part is still getting curious about the s7, even though my hunch is that the same old Samsung problems will be there,, or the m10 to see what it has going.. You know there is something to be said for having the latest hardware and software. What do you think?
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stay with z3c and wait for snapdragons 820 devices
I think you should wait for a future compact phone.
The Z3C has solid battery life and performance. 720p screen and small, like the Z5.
Since the Z3C uses x86 Android and the Z5 uses x64 Android, you'll probably have more free RAM because both devices have 2GB of RAM. (Same happened between Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X).
My case: the best scenario for me is a Nexus device with [Moto_X/Z3C/Z5C/iPhone] size/resolution. The last one was the Galaxy Nexus (because Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 were too width for my hand).
I didn't buy a Z3C (I'm coming from a Nexus 5) because the price was near the Z5 Compact..It was like...400€ vs 550€ at that time.
If the 6.0 serving us well, then Z5c still a recommended choice but who knows.... we're still waiting......
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If the 6.0 serving us well, then Z5c still a recommended choice but who knows.... we're still waiting......
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Yes. Ideally it would be an easier decision if 6.0 were indeed out.. But...
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In my case, Marshmallow will decide if I keep that Z5 I bought in October and is currently gathering dust... or if I sell it and buy a different brand.
The current firmware (Lollipop) is awful. My reccomendation: If Sony can get its sh*t together and release a proper 6.0 firmware , the Z5c is probably a good choice (price should drop when the Z6c is out)... but if Sony's iteration of Marshmallow firmware is as bad as Lollipop is on the Z5, STAY AWAY from Sony.
Back in October, I had to choose between a Z5, a Moto X Pure and a Nexus 6P. I finally got the Z5, and I've regretted that choice every single day since. I don't blame the phone though (hardware), but I blame the firmware quality and Sony who doesn't seem to care at all (Certains bugs were known and reported back in October. They're still present. That says a lot)
Wait for Marshmallow... then make a choice
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Yes. Ideally it would be an easier decision if 6.0 were indeed out.. But...
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It must be better, I didn't see one Marshmallow which is worse than Lollipop but I have no idea how great of MM on our Z5c. Since the Z5c still worth some money, if MM turn out not reach my expectation probably I will sell it out.
Overall 6.0 is good at battery and improved memory management, pretty sure issues like lagging and battery draining been fixed. The only problem is the camera.
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Hello everyone I have a question that I'd like opinions on if possible. I had a z5 compact and sold it because I wanted to try a nexus 5x. I loved the smoothness of stock Android but the size was just ridiculous for a 5.2" screen. So I gave the phone to my 14yo son who needed a phone after his Iphone 6 was acting up. I really miss the z5c and I'm using an old z3c right now. so I was all set to purchase the US model(even though no fingerprint reader) I didn't think it worked great anyway..but here's the thing, I know that htc, lg, and Samsung are coming within weeks. With my main criteria ease of use with one hand, the lg may be too big right of the bat. My hangup with Samsung is that the s6 I had, had terrible battery life and the lag because of TouchWiz. HTC has me intrigued but not sure about sense UI. So should I wait to see the actual phones when they arrive or is the z5c still a good contender? Part of me wants to just buy the z5c and wait for Marshmallow but part is still getting curious about the s7, even though my hunch is that the same old Samsung problems will be there,, or the m10 to see what it has going.. You know there is something to be said for having the latest hardware and software. What do you think?
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There are very very few phones that can provide both one-hand-operating ability (or portability) and the real experience of a flagship if I don't consider Sony's compact phones. I may think that iphone 5s can do, but its battery life just sucked.
Well, you can take a look at z3c, that is able to flash to CyanogenMod and then get mostly the same experience with stock Android or even better, and as well as better battery life than z5c
I'm actually using the z3c now. There are things about the build quality that I like better in the z5c though. I don't flash or rom because.. Well I just don't know how and I don't think I really want to. Apple is coming out with with a 4" updated 5s on the 15th of March so this is yet another option but it IS an iPhone lol. Btw, thanks for the replies guys. Very helpful
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Hi ,would you get a Z5c now ? I intend to do so but my concern is security updates. Can we expect linage OS 14 to get security updates for a couple of years at least for this device ?
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I did break my Z5 Compact 3 weeks ago, so I started looking for replacement and when I could not find any in reasonable price range, so I just bought Z5 Compact again and I am very happy with it (just as I was before), but I wasn't really concerned with security, I mean pretty much every phone that does not have android Oreo will not have the latest security patches in couple of months...
I still use my Z3C as my primary phone but picked up a Z5C recently in hopes that there will be more support for it with the latest security patches.
I 'm pretty sure sony will not release updates anymore as it is a 2015 device... But I wonder how long we can expect updates in Lineage OS 14. By the way , does anyone know how long Nougat will be supported by google, independently of manufacturers ?
I bought my Z5 Compact 2 years ago because it was the smallest smartphone with a "great camera" available. For me 5'' smartphones are too big, at least back then when bezel-less phones weren't a thing.
Knowing what I know now, I probably wouldn't buy it. Don't get me wrong, the phone is great but the camera now leaves a lot to be desired. No API 2 support, no RAW support, no dual-lens thingies, low-light photos are kinda bad and you don't see any "magic" on the 23 Mbpx camera.
Since the camera is a really import aspect to me, that's why I'm saying I wouldn't buy it again. I am still using today because it still works perfectly fine and I don't feel like buying a new phone until everyone settles down on the constant "innovations".
This phone is super cheap now to be a backup phone. Buy I do notice z3 compact come with Oreo custom rom, z5 compact without oreo.
Why ?