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is it me or is it very annoying to see all these post about roms that are not released yet or wont be released for a week or two or three .....i mean at least a screen shot ...or how about people using kitchen to cook a personal rom that taste like sh*t....is there any way to control this or rules to posting a new rom ......hope i dont sound stupid
also i would like to say i respect ever one for there work personal or public ......
I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with throwing out a teaser. It's like the 'Coming Attractions' at the movies. If you don't like them, just show up 15 minutes after the movie's supposed to start.
Unless every chef uses a diffrent theme each time, every screenshot is going to look the same. I can understand if someone is planning to roll out a new taskbar or something and it may not be cooperatiing, a screenshot may be a nice placeholder for its followers... but really, a screenshot is always going to be the same picture as all the others.
I think it is helpful for the chefs that are soliciting input on what to include in pending ROMS so that they can appeal to the masses. It does seem a bit odd however, to post a "Placeholder" for something without description or any request for input. However, it seems a small price to pay for getting to use the work and talents of others.
I do make some flashing decisions based on pending releases. For example, NATF should be close to his 5.0 release so I am waiting to flash that. (I don't know why we ever let him buy a house - A real productivity killer)
I guess you always have the option of simply not reading the "In Development" posts.
Doug M.
I certainly concur in this thought process. As AdamNimrod said, unless you are providing a ridiculously new look or program or UI, OR if you are a seasoned chef who has been contributing for many many releases and have a large following.... there should be no teasers.
Most of the up and comming noob chefs out there are using Da_G's kitchen. Which means, out of the box, most Roms are looking identical. Just a couple tweaks here and there, such as the wallpaper. We arent seeing any new chefs who offer a groudbreaking earth shattering new rom.
The roms we see out there now have taken lots and lots of time, and tweaking and calibrating from the chefs, to be what they are. But when a new chef comes on the scene and states they have an awesome new rom, and it turns out to be identical to one released 4 days ago... its discouraging. However, on the flip side, even to the guy who releases a basic rom Im in debted, because I cant cook a rom to save my life. I just flash any and every rom and subsequent release, in the quest for the perfect rom!
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is it me or is it very annoying to see all these post about roms that are not released yet or wont be released for a week or two or three .....i mean at least a screen shot ...or how about people using kitchen to cook a personal rom that taste like sh*t....is there any way to control this or rules to posting a new rom ......hope i dont sound stupid
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Get over it.......Don't read the post then.....I agree with Farmer ted; it's like a teaser and keeps you interested. Just my 2 cents...
Im not sure if this is what he means.. but i find it abit hard to wade through some of the posts when trying to read up on roms and such... if only there was a page that listed all the roms and stages and such..... o O ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Cooked_WM6.1_ROMs or http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Cooked_WM6.5_ROMs ) too bad.. it doesn't seem like the one for 6.5 is used...
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Im not sure if this is what he means.. but i find it abit hard to wade through some of the posts when trying to read up on roms and such... if only there was a page that listed all the roms and stages and such..... o O ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Cooked_WM6.1_ROMs or http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Cooked_WM6.5_ROMs ) too bad.. it doesn't seem like the one for 6.5 is used...
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Oops, forgot abou that, added mine for good measure
IMO, They are the chefs let them determine how to set up the menu. I would rather see a placeholder with what they may be including on it to decide whether or not i will flash it. They could be worse, the threads would look like howardforums threads.
I agree.
Mods - Why can't we have a different section for teasers/quizzes/input-gathering-roms?
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...or how about people using kitchen to cook a personal rom that taste like sh*t....
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That's actually why I don't cook & release ROMs. The way I see it, I'm using a tool that is available to everyone that visits the site, and unless I have something ground-breaking to offer, I'll let those that do contribute in that way. I will continue to try and find other ways to contribute, and cook ROMs for my own personal use. I have had a few people PM me & tell me they'd like to try one of my ROMs, but I wonder what makes them think that my ROM is any better than anyone elses? I don't have half the technical know-how of the chefs here. The tools provided on this site make it so easy for a n00b to feel like a pro - and really, that's all I am - a Senior n00b.
But I still appreciate the work that ALL the chefs, even the new ones, put into their work, and how they do what they can to assist those who decide to flash their ROMs. I'd much rather be the guy that goes around and helps out where he can.
So at any rate, I don't think there's anything wrong with generating anticipation for a new ROM release, though I do appreciate the point that if it's not offering something new & exciting, that it could be a disappointing read. Fortunately, such threads are clearly labeled, and can be ignored.
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is it me...
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No bro, it's not you. Those empty threads always make me think "why didn't this guy wait til he actually had something?" It is a waste of time and more importantly space on the first page of the forum. I personally always rate those threads low. I'm not recommending everyone do the same, but the option is there.
Half the time we hear a chef ask "tell me what you want" only to have tens of contradictory requests anyway. The other half of the time a chef says "This is MY personal ROM configured to MY liking. If you like it and want to use it great, if not don't bother." So I don't see the point of having a teaser. (not that I'm criticizing either style, I respect both. Just no place for teasers.) Besides, I've even seen teasers that NEVER get anywhere past that.
If you cooked your own ROM and you like it, chances are someone else will too. If you're bringing in the latest stuff from whatever device you ported it, that's exciting. If you're just announcing your intentions, well you haven't really done anything have you?
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No bro, it's not you. Those empty threads always make me think "why didn't this guy wait til he actually had something?" It is a waste of time and more importantly space on the first page of the forum. I personally always rate those threads low. I'm not recommending everyone do the same, but the option is there.
Half the time we hear a chef ask "tell me what you want" only to have tens of contradictory requests anyway. The other half of the time a chef says "This is MY personal ROM configured to MY liking. If you like it and want to use it great, if not don't bother." So I don't see the point of having a teaser. (not that I'm criticizing either style, I respect both. Just no place for teasers.) Besides, I've even seen teasers that NEVER get anywhere past that.
If you cooked your own ROM and you like it, chances are someone else will too. If you're bringing in the latest stuff from whatever device you ported it, that's exciting. If you're just announcing your intentions, well you haven't really done anything have you?
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+1 completely agree with you.
Just for an example NRG is missing for the last few days however couple of days back he had posted a lot teaser pics on what he is working on. So every one knows that something big is coming next and anxiously waiting for it even though there is no release date.
I do fine a little useless to teasers without any pics and without a release date but like others said in this thread, i will just ignore it and move on and probably wont be coming back to those threads.
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I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with throwing out a teaser. It's like the 'Coming Attractions' at the movies. If you don't like them, just show up 15 minutes after the movie's supposed to start.
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very true but even those have screen shots
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Get over it.......Don't read the post then.....I agree with Farmer ted; it's like a teaser and keeps you interested. Just my 2 cents...
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but some teaser should have more than " look i know how to use my camera " movies...i understand some people can use a kicthen but damn clone roms is what ill call them
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IMO, They are the chefs let them determine how to set up the menu. I would rather see a placeholder with what they may be including on it to decide whether or not i will flash it. They could be worse, the threads would look like howardforums threads.
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and most of the people doing this constantly have to tweak there roms every day
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No bro, it's not you. Those empty threads always make me think "why didn't this guy wait til he actually had something?" It is a waste of time and more importantly space on the first page of the forum. I personally always rate those threads low. I'm not recommending everyone do the same, but the option is there.
Half the time we hear a chef ask "tell me what you want" only to have tens of contradictory requests anyway. The other half of the time a chef says "This is MY personal ROM configured to MY liking. If you like it and want to use it great, if not don't bother." So I don't see the point of having a teaser. (not that I'm criticizing either style, I respect both. Just no place for teasers.) Besides, I've even seen teasers that NEVER get anywhere past that.
If you cooked your own ROM and you like it, chances are someone else will too. If you're bringing in the latest stuff from whatever device you ported it, that's exciting. If you're just announcing your intentions, well you haven't really done anything have you?
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this is exactly what i am saying but in better words ...kudos to you my friend.....there honestly should just be a teaser section
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very true but even those have screen shots
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but some teaser should have more than " look i know how to use my camera " movies...i understand some people can use a kicthen but damn clone roms is what ill call them
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and most of the people doing this constantly have to tweak there roms every day
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this is exactly what i am saying but in better words ...kudos to you my friend.....there honestly should just be a teaser section
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That was a quadruple post - learn to multi-quote, friend .
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That was a quadruple post - learn to multi-quote, friend .
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i knew i was going to get blasted for that i deserved it
but i do understand every ones look on it , and appreciate the replies ...but i hope this just pushes for more original work and to try to keep in mind that millions could be reading your post i screen shot or a new teaser section with rom info with a good screen shot of where people are going with it
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That was a quadruple post - learn to multi-quote, friend .
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i knew i was going to get blasted for that i deserved it
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First things first. I have always wondered how people quoted multiple times, thanks for giving me the term to search for!
just my .02; I dont have a problem with teasers at all but it does get old when a teaser is posted and nothing comes out for weeks or even months. With all due respect to the Chefs out there that can do alot more than I; If you're that far from release, wait to post the teaser so people dont lose interest by the time it comes out.
Hey everyone,
We've made a small change to this forum by giving it a different name. This is now the *default* Android development forum for Galaxy S II. Any works that are completely original will be filed in the Original Android Development forum. Everything else will go here.
We have a more long-term solution to the ROM situation in the works. It'll be a database-driven ROM upload tool that will make it super easy for users to find and rate the ROMs that you upload. You'll be hearing more about this in the coming months.
For now, please continue to provide feedback. Thank you for your help in making XDA a more organized place.
Thanks!
P.S. If you think your ROM should be placed in the Original Android Development forum, send me a PM.
Edit from noppy22: this thread is no longer relevant so I unstuck it...
Sveitus,
I am dissapointed that the original explainatory thread was closed without reason after it was collecting opposing comments. Not cool.
I believe what you've posted (not done, I am confident that this was done with some consultation, somewhere) should be discussed in a wider context.
To that end, I've opened a thread in the XDA general forum with an admittedly emotive title "First and Second Class ROMS, 1st, 2nd class users". Please track this thread, assuming it's not lost amidst the noise.
I would have posted my concerns in the original notification thread except...
What gives?
Just imagine someone from sensation comes here and sees two development threads...
Sensation owners must be jealous by now..
But why is this only done on the GALAXY S2 subforums? Please, implement this on all phone subforum. I want to see how others would react.
Still think this is a stupid idea. If devs don't want other devs recycling their works, better not publish it. Or you can just close the thread of the ROM that was derived from an another ROM without permission/due credit.
The current situation is not something new to all of us.
There were always have been such ''issues'' among the rom developers.
xda team the way you chose to work this out is not good at all.
I'm starting to think that you don't listen to the majority of the users...
You hear a few dev's that probably are jealous of others...
This is not right for the community.
I personally am not supporting anyone particularly, but you must find another solution.
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The current situation is not something new to all of us.
There were always have been such ''issues'' among the rom developers.
xda team the way you chose to work this out is not good at all.
I'm starting to think that you don't listen to the majority of the users...
You hear a few dev's that probably are jealous of others...
This is not right for the community.
I personally am not supporting anyone particularly, but you must find another solution.
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I 100% support this view...
If this is the case, then no custom roms should be in "original" section, as they are all derived from the stock manufacturer's roms.
khein said:
But why is this only done on the GALAXY S2 subforums? Please, implement this on all phone subforum. I want to see how others would react.
Still think this is a stupid idea. If devs don't want other devs recycling their works, better not publish it. Or you can just close the thread of the ROM that was derived from an another ROM without permission/due credit.
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All hell would break lose and their would be a mass exodus of developers and some pissed off members.
And why was the other thread closed. Perhaps XDA didn't like that all the negative PR they were getting. This plan was poorly conceived and executed. And to make it worse, XDA is being the judge, jury and executioner.
I am quite disappointed that this unjustified separation and disqualification of some devs work is still not corrected. You justified your step by "feedback" asking for it. I believe you are severely misleading people here.
You earned a lot of justified feedback in the first thread being deleted meanwhile and still you don't get things sorted out.
It is obviously totally wrong to piss off devs and force them to prove they are not guilty of what you may think. It ought to be the other way around: you should have a prove to claim what you state before you behave (and take action) the way you did. Some kind of US wild west mentality around here. I understand when people think that you only try to protect some of the devs being closer to you or being longer active on xda than some others. The selection of Roms being put to one or the other section proves that already since there seems to be no logic behind your decisions. Some early birds being put to the second class thread while some others who have just released quite usual stuff but were active with other hardware before have been put to the first class thread. And till now no kind of explanation why this or that Rom has been put here or there? What about Litenin e.g. which has been asked for a dozen times in the first, deleted thread ?
And above all: what kind of guilt do you think of ?
We are talking about open source here and all Roms are derived from Samsung stuff except for CM / MIUI. So where does originality start and where does it end? And who may decide: Even if a custom ROM was copied from another custom one in the first step it might have become an own developement over time.
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All hell would break lose and their would be a mass exodus of developers and some pissed off members.
And why was the other thread closed. Perhaps XDA didn't like that all the negative PR they were getting. This plan was poorly conceived and executed. And to make it worse, XDA is being the judge, jury and executioner.
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The other thread was closed because it was a discussion on the Derived ROMs Forum format, which as you state wasn't what we hoped it would be. So, changed the forum format. The old discussion was closed and a new one started to discuss this iteration. The thread was also started and stuck by svetius.
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I am quite disappointed that this unjustified separation and disqualification of some devs work is still not corrected. You justified your step by "feedback" asking for it. I believe you are severely misleading people here.
You earned a lot of justified feedback in the first thread being deleted meanwhile and still you don't get things sorted out.
It is obviously totally wrong to piss off devs and force them to prove they are not guilty of what you may think. It ought to be the other way around: you should have a prove to claim what you state before you behave (and take action) the way you did. Some kind of US wild west mentality around here. I understand when people think that you only try to protect some of the devs being closer to you or being longer active on xda than some others. The selection of Roms being put to one or the other section proves that already since there seems to be no logic behind your decisions. Some early birds being put to the second class thread while some others who have just released quite usual stuff but were active with other hardware before have been put to the first class thread. And till now no kind of explanation why this or that Rom has been put here or there? What about Litenin e.g. which has been asked for a dozen times in the first, deleted thread ?
And above all: what kind of guilt do you think of ?
We are talking about open source here and all Roms are derived from Samsung stuff except for CM / MIUI. So where does originality start and where does it end? And who may decide: Even if a custom ROM was copied from another custom one in the first step it might have become an own developement over time.
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The thread hasn't been deleted, it's been closed. The reasons (while obvious) are above.
Clearer..
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This titling does make it clearer..
Example:
Original Development: CM7
It's built from the ground up with a myriad of coded additions to be a truly 'Original' product.
Development: Everything else
All other ROMS are stock deodexed upgrades.
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Don't like this idea...
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The thread hasn't been deleted, it's been closed. The reasons (while obvious) are above.
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Closed or deleted - did not see it but no big difference anyway.
And there is nothing obvious neither about the closing nor the separation.
If you like to install a new tool do so. Build it, introduce it. Till then leave things as they were, stop separation and maybe excuse for the mess you produced by an unbiased decision... My 5 ct
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I really don't understand what an "original ROM" is. Google wrote the only original Android ROM imho.
here's a thought.
Villain Rom Lite is in "original" even though it's clearly based off VillainRom.
There's CLEAR favoritism going on here.
It should either be merged with the original or moved. It's just the same ROM with removed apps. How is that "original"?
Simple Result:
As far as I see; Some devs are out of business and as far as I feel, more to be...
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here's a thought.
Villain Rom Lite is in "original" even though it's clearly based off VillainRom.
There's CLEAR favoritism going on here.
It should either be merged with the original or moved. It's just the same ROM with removed apps. How is that "original"?
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Uhm actually the fact that thread was buried a few pages until yesterday meant svetius may have missed it. Moved it across.
That's grand, we don't have derivated roms anymore, we have originals and others (stolen, fakes, not so cool). I like the way mods are listening...
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I must admit, the way the mods have chosen to separate the two development sections doesn't sit well with me at all. The criteria for which section a ROM goes in to is very subjective and open to various interpretations, all of which are prone to the moderator's possible bias.
Strictly speaking, only one or two ROMs are 'original development' and belong in that section. All the others are derivatives in some way or another.
A better way to clean up the dev forum would be to have a couple of sub-sections; perhaps one for all ROMs (regardless of source), one for kernels and related modifications and another for android-specific modifications. Then, be strict about enforcing the sub-section criteria. Also, ask ROM chefs to state in their OP whether the ROM is based on another ROM and to credit the original developer/chef.
Everything else goes in Themes & Apps.
Also, having a mandatory format for thread titles (a la the HD2 forum) is an excellent way to keep things tidy and ensure that people know when a new release has been posted and what the releases are based upon. It worked over in HD2 rather well I thought. After coming from an HD2 to the S2, I thought that the S2 forums were a little untidy to say the least.
Ok, serious mode off, back to my usual sarcastic self.
OK, I dont agree with the splitting of the forums, but its not my decision and will go along with it. One thing that does really annoy me and needs to be fixed is that this new forum doesnt show up on the android app. Can that be fixed? I like keeping up with a few roms here and am usually on the move.
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OK, I dont agree with the splitting of the forums, but its not my decision and will go along with it. One thing that does really annoy me and needs to be fixed is that this new forum doesnt show up on the android app. Can that be fixed? I like keeping up with a few roms here and am usually on the move.
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No harm in disagreeing! If enough people disagree, the mods may relent on this decision.
The poll is multiple choice
This thread was prompted by a post that I read in another thread. It seems as if some members feel that development hasn't really taken off and another member suggested that it would be cool if some of the devs that are currently working on things (in their own time) would at least check in and let the community know that they still have some love
Please only vote if you're currently working on something and in your post, please let us know what you're currently working on and the status of your project (no ETA's).. for example:
A kick ass dev said:
Working on porting MIUI.
Status: my wife smashed my laptop cuz I didnt take out the trash so progress is on hold
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Members, please do not ask for ETA's... Devs despise this... Remember, the devs that are working on projects do so for the love of the hobby and on their spare time. Make sure you're hitting that thanks button. sometimes its the only 'payment' that they really want.
Please keep this civil
Thanks for checking in
methinks your going to get a lot of trolls clicking vote
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methinks your going to get a lot of trolls clicking vote
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well I have the best of intentions..
Good to see Rob is working on a ROM and we got another dev working on CM7..
Was hoping this would be a sticky and the devs working on their own projects would at least post w/ what they're working on (no ETA's though LOL)
still cool that we have some participation .
and if trolls screw this up, they can go outside and play a friendly game of hide and screw themselves
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and if trolls screw this up, they can go outside and play a friendly game of hide and screw themselves
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LOL
I'm working on feature set expansion providing I can get some coders behind it. I intend to do all the projects that I had planned for the Evo that fell through. Enhanced dock, tablet, carpc and a couple others are on the list but we will see.
im hoping with cm7 ported i can bug dreamsforgotten to show me how to make team brissen's mod, it has the sgs toggles in it and its all aosp
This is a great thread. It helps alot knowing that things are in the works. Maybe the natives won't be so restless.
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thanks for posting this and devs thanks for your efforts on making a great phone better.
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This is a great thread. It helps alot knowing that things are in the works. Maybe the natives won't be so restless.
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This was the reason why I created this thread.. to give those that believe all hope is lost, a peek behind the scenes so they realize that there IS still some love for this Mo-Pho'kin device hahaha
Thanks for this thread, it is just what we needed.
V1.0 IS HERE
Features
Based on Senseless V4.1.0
Lots of Init.d Scripts and Tweaks
Smooth UI (Scrolling)
Intergrated Widgets (HTC Standard)
Image Quality Raised for Weather Notifications
Launcher Modified for Larger Grid Size
OTA Updates (Coming Soon)
ReJigged Setup.apk
Juwes Ram Tweaks included.
Extended Power Menu
Intergrated Battery Life Tweaks
Custom Boot Animation
Screenshots
Changelog
V1.0
Initial Release
ANY REQUESTS PLEASE ASK
Download Centre
Download Links and Mirrors
Version 1 Download
Bugs and Fixes
No Bugs Reported yet.
Hopefully never Will be ;
Uh...I think you misplaced your links pal.
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Uh...I think you misplaced your links pal.
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Nope not yet, still uploading Just getting the ground work in
Ok just out of curiosity why make the posts if you don't have links? I can't understand it....
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Ok just out of curiosity why make the posts if you don't have links? I can't understand it....
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Just saves a bit of time and its just my strange way of doing things
What's the difference between this rom and senseless v4.1.1
Sense? :laugh::silly:
I'm unable to get the same speed as the senseless ROM however I believe it is much faster than stock
Do people still want it?
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i will give it a try
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I'm unable to get the same speed as the senseless ROM however I believe it is much faster than stock
Do people still want it?
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Personally yes, thank you...
Of course we want it
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Ok just out of curiosity why make the posts if you don't have links? I can't understand it....
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Agreed. The OP should be complete when it's OP'ed... Kinda rude to say "... IS HERE" when it's not...
\\Carved into this thread with my RAZR//
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Come on, take it easy, some OP s started collecting money before even showing a line; )
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Come on, take it easy, some OP s started collecting money before even showing a line; )
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Take it easy? We aren't being harsh. There was no point in posting before you had a link other then try and get attention for yourself. It was pointless and as to saving time he could have typed it up using preview and then saved it on to his computer. We were just pointing out that he didn't need to post it yet, and it doesn't really make sense too. If he had wanted to get feedback and ask for opinions then maybe he should post something in general.
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Take it easy? We aren't being harsh. There was no point in posting before you had a link other then try and get attention for yourself. It was pointless and as to saving time he could have typed it up using preview and then saved it on to his computer. We were just pointing out that he didn't need to post it yet, and it doesn't really make sense too. If he had wanted to get feedback and ask for opinions then maybe he should post something in general.
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I have already got a link, its just my Dev-Host account got suspended for too much bandwidth usage :/
I am working on getting this resolved via contacting Dev-Host on twitter, they seem to have an IP Block on me for some reason, hopefully will be resolved shortly.
@WadeGeek, this wasn't a silly attempt to get attention, maybe you should get to know what people are like before you start making wild allegations.
To the others i am working to get this resolved and sorry for the delay, i wrote the OP when i was uploading the file last night, however the link failed.
I would upload to another site but DevHost usually works well and allows me to keep track of how many DL's etc.
What has less of a point, setting a place aside for a future link or posting to complain about it?
Either way to argue about it is pointless, it is the op's thread to do as he likes. If people take issue with it take it to the mods. Personally I think it is pretty ****ty that both of his threads have less than friendly post on the first page when all he is trying to do is learn how to develop and share his work
My two cents
Version 1
OK, so version 1 is up and my account is unblocked so its downloadable.
Please give em your opinions and requests and this will make it much easier and quicker for me to iron any issues out
I had to re-upload the file :/ but its thee now SORRY FOR THE DELAYS
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What has less of a point, setting a place aside for a future link or posting to complain about it?
Either way to argue about it is pointless, it is the op's thread to do as he likes. If people take issue with it take it to the mods. Personally I think it is pretty ****ty that both of his threads have less than friendly post on the first page when all he is trying to do is learn how to develop and share his work
My two cents
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LOL!!!
Op says there's sense in the rom, others say there's no sense in this thread and you say your 2 cents
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blttalas said:
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Depends of the guys, i really appreciate the work of developers, but in 1 month, i see like 4 or 5 updates, with annoying updates like, NEW KEYBOARD, CHANGED BUILD.PROP and others, but nothing with NEW KERNEL, if possible get 3 or 4 developers to do 1 thing!! Or Stable kernel only in 2014 :/
Velcis Ribeiro said:
Depends of the guys, i really appreciate the work of developers, but in 1 month, i see like 4 or 5 updates, with annoying updates like, NEW KEYBOARD, CHANGED BUILD.PROP and others, but nothing with NEW KERNEL, if possible get 3 or 4 developers to do 1 thing!! Or Stable kernel only in 2014 :/
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A few questions:
There are not many devs left here. Do you think it is a good idea criticize our work like that?
Are you saying you don't want any updates unless it is a new kernel?
Have you considered trying to build a kernel yourself instead of complaining?
Just asking.....
I heard that the devs working on porting the XOOM kernel have progressed. Hopefully in due time...
It will, it's under development.
upndwn4par said:
A few questions:
There are not many devs left here. Do you think it is a good idea criticize our work like that?
Are you saying you don't want any updates unless it is a new kernel?
Have you considered trying to build a kernel yourself instead of complaining?
Just asking.....
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Im not criticating man, i really appreciate your work, you win my 10+ repp i only said that these updates dont be affect anything that the guys test. Because, i see much guys from here, and from other forums, that trying ICS several weeks because it have a new update, did you understand? hehe
Dont think wrong about my answr ;P
What exactly is the point of threads like this? People around here are getting just too good at nothing but whining and complaining. FYI, opening a thread like this is exactly the same thing as asking for ETAs, and I really hope everyone knows you NEVER ask for ETAs here. Instead of littering the forum with useless whiny adn wallowy threads like this, you could have helped the development efforts yourself. But no, people would rather just sit around idly and complain and whihe.
If you want a stable and fully functional ICS/JB right away, get a different device. If you want it in some undefined time, have patience, be supportive and QUIT ASKING. Better yet, instead of just waiting, take initiative and MAKE IT HAPPEN YOURSELF.
Hey Guys, I've reported this thread. I've got fed up with threads like these. Only asking for ETAs, growing up a bad mood... not throwing good vibes at all. We need patience, not ETAs. If you need a kernel so bad, then you've gotta have patience. That'll do the trick
ravilov said:
What exactly is the point of threads like this? People around here are getting just too good at nothing but whining and complaining. FYI, opening a thread like this is exactly the same thing as asking for ETAs, and I really hope everyone knows you NEVER ask for ETAs here. Instead of littering the forum with useless whiny adn wallowy threads like this, you could have helped the development efforts yourself. But no, people would rather just sit around idly and complain and whihe.
If you want a stable and fully functional ICS/JB right away, get a different device. If you want it in some undefined time, have patience, be supportive and QUIT ASKING. Better yet, instead of just waiting, take initiative and MAKE IT HAPPEN YOURSELF.
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jhonnyx said:
Hey Guys, I've reported this thread. I've got fed up with threads like these. Only asking for ETAs, growing up a bad mood... not throwing good vibes at all. We need patience, not ETAs. If you need a kernel so bad, then you've gotta have patience. That'll do the trick
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wow, you've reported this thread?! all the guy was asking was how things are progressing. After the initial excitement of the ics leak there hasn't been anything of very much. He said he appreciated the work of the people who put the time and effort into trying to keep our phone as current as possible. Who do you think you are Ravilov labeling someone as whiny and wallowing (although just what you think the poster is wallowing in is beyond me - he asked a simple question). As for your pathetic 'no one asks for eta's' comment... I can only assume you've been spending too much time here.
Thankfully, the question was answered bu Syl and takemeouttt.
This is a forum, where people ask questions and, hopefully, get civil and informative answers.
1) New Keyboard -- Because people wanted to try the new keyboard with 'Swype'-like features.
2) build.prop edits -- Because different people are having different issues with the ICS roms. Devs are pretty much taking stabs in the dark to see which combination helps which device. (tegra part?)
3) Xoom Kernel Port -- Is compiled, but will be a while before everyone can test it and/or have a stable release (source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941654)
As for your original question, there's a strong possibility we might, but don't expect it anytime soon. If it was that easy, Motorola would have done it at the same time they did it for Xoom. Remember, developers might also upgrade to newer devices. Would seem pointless to develop for a device--that even the manufacturer abandoned, when you have a shiny new device.
The current "team" of developers ARE working "together". In my experience, it's hard to collaborate on something with another person remotely, but they seem to be managing it. Going by the thread, there are at least 2 active developers. Might be others who aren't updating in the thread, but are simply contributing by email and/or other ways?
This thread may or may not be pointless. I think if it gets closed at this point, it might help someone trying to find a simple answer without going through 1000's of posts in the development section.
barry_ said:
wow, you've reported this thread?! all the guy was asking was how things are progressing. After the initial excitement of the ics leak there hasn't been anything of very much. He said he appreciated the work of the people who put the time and effort into trying to keep our phone as current as possible. Who do you think you are Ravilov labeling someone as whiny and wallowing (although just what you think the poster is wallowing in is beyond me - he asked a simple question). As for your pathetic 'no one asks for eta's' comment... I can only assume you've been spending too much time here.
Thankfully, the question was answered bu Syl and takemeouttt.
This is a forum, where people ask questions and, hopefully, get civil and informative answers.
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Maybe i've should answered this:
See the proper thread in the forum. Hint: search button.
Now thats an appropiate response to the question in the 1st post.
How long more do ppl keep their atrix?
toyota86 said:
How long more do ppl keep their atrix?
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I bought an atrix 2 weeks ago, i'm waiting to the delivery from China, so i think i would keep it for a year
I think that the community is simply misguided.
There is not a single post which clearly explains that we hit a brick wall regarding battery life.
Not knowing that, it IS frustrating to see a "new update!!" as the title of the ROM post and find only minor graphical changes inside.
There is a simple way to solve that, we need a sticky with an explanation regarding the entire Atrix ICS issue.
It should have a brief explanation that the ICS and JB roms that we have now are incomplete and generally suffer from graphical issues due to the old kernel constrains and even though we have a leaked version of the original ICS kernel, it is only barely functional and in most cases far from being a daily driver.
It will save a LOT of browsing (for me at least) since I check almost daily on the progress in the development section and it is quite a hassle to browse through all the latest comments for a clue of any changes or new ideas of how to make the rom work better and it will inform all those that don't bother checking and simply end up disappointed in the new changes.
Creating such a post is easy and I can do so if you'll approve of my idea, but the major point is to make it sticky and up to date, even if the update is simply updating the title just to show that no progress regarding kernel development/ ICS implementation for the Atrix was made.
I have no problems updating it either.
I adore the dev community here and all of you guys.
It's nice to see optimism where other developers and testers would just give up.
I love you guys and keep up the nice job. :highfive:
Why we just can't delete everything and add the rom from galaxy r
mixlis said:
Why we just can't delete everything and add the rom from galaxy r
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I think epinter tried taking the kernel from either the galaxy r and other similar phones and came out with the same issues as we get with the leaked kernel.
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Tough to say if it will ever happen, but at least there are a few people still interested enough to try. Seems the current best hope is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016837
All the top devs are working on the kernel plz support them by donating something try reading QandA section
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Does anyone know whats the most stable ICS/JB rom here? Need one with good battery life, & hwaccell...