Hi guys,
Just upgraded to the G6 from the OnePlus One. I have the H870DS. It's pretty good, I'm enjoying the phone. The camera is pretty great and it's pretty smooth altho I really did feel the difference from custom ROMs with the One to the skin of LG on the first day but now I'm pretty used to it. There are definitely some things I miss like being able to jump into the battery usage quickly from the notification bar, etc etc.
Anyway, my only real issue is with image retention. I noticed it on the very first day. You can only see it against certain dark colors tho but not against black thankfully. It's not permanent image retention, it goes away if you don't use your screen for a while. It tends to retain images that have been on the screen for a while (Especially with Always On Display) but it doesn't retain them for too long and goes away after a while.
It's a minor annoyance and it doesn't get in the way of usability. It's not glaring or anything just annoying when you can see ghosted images sometimes like when you pull down the status bar (the dark tint + my plain wallpaper makes it show easy). Just wanted to know if you guys are getting this too and if you guys have any solutions or remedies for this.
I did not get this on my G6 but was prepared for this issue since it has been a massive issue with earlier LG phones such as the V10. The problem is that it usually gets much worse over time and my V10 had developed permanent image retention that came after minutes of use after resting over the night. So it was pretty much permanent you could say.
One thing could stop it from happening totally though. Installing the app I will link below, set the filter to the darkest one and opacity to just 3% which is enough. Was not a perfect solution but the only solution.
I really hoped this would not be an issue with the G6 too. LG are basically the only manufacturer with this problem. It's much much worse than on Amoled even.
If you can I would exchange your unit. Mine did not have this at all. If yours has it out-of-box it's troublesome.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.ne.hardyinfinity.bluelightfilter.free
dannejanne said:
I did not get this on my G6 but was prepared for this issue since it has been a massive issue with earlier LG phones such as the V10. The problem is that it usually gets much worse over time and my V10 had developed permanent image retention that came after minutes of use after resting over the night. So it was pretty much permanent you could say.
One thing could stop it from happening totally though. Installing the app I will link below, set the filter to the darkest one and opacity to just 3% which is enough. Was not a perfect solution but the only solution.
I really hoped this would not be an issue with the G6 too. LG are basically the only manufacturer with this problem. It's much much worse than on Amoled even.
If you can I would exchange your unit. Mine did not have this at all. If yours has it out-of-box it's troublesome.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.ne.hardyinfinity.bluelightfilter.free
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I actually got mine 2nd hand from a guy and didn't notice until after using it for a day and by then it was too late. The guy said he never had any issues and thinks I'm scamming him so yeah I'm stuck with this phone now. So I guess I should try to get rid of this as soon as I can before it gets worse?
I also read some comments saying it might be about heat? Like the heat from using it is what causes the image retention and since I live in the Philippines, my average phone temp is a lot higher than some of you guys' temps I'm guessing so if it really is related to temperature than I feel like that's probably why it so easily happens with mine.
I'll try out your app and see if it helps!
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.ne.hardyinfinity.bluelightfilter.free
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Just to clarify, what did the app do for you exactly? Did it prevent the screen from creating retained images or does it just hide them so you don't see them but they're still technically there?
kylethelife said:
Just to clarify, what did the app do for you exactly? Did it prevent the screen from creating retained images or does it just hide them so you don't see them but they're still technically there?
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Prevents the screen from creating them.
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I can't guarantee though that it also works on the G6. But it did in fact work on the V10.
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Prevents the screen from creating them.
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I can't guarantee though that it also works on the G6. But it did in fact work on the V10.
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Blue filter app is a well known solution for this problem in every LCD device, another solution would be change the display colors with root (worked on my G5).
Anyway there is no need for a Blue filter app as the G6 as it included in settings "comfort view"
Killua96 said:
Blue filter app is a well known solution for this problem in every LCD device, another solution would be change the display colors with root (worked on my G5).
Anyway there is no need for a Blue filter app as the G6 as it included in settings "comfort view"
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Yeah but it will make the screen more yellow which the OP probably don't want. This just darkens the screen by a very small bit it's barly noticeable at 3% opacity and will not change the screen colors as the filter is black/grey. Seems to be enough to prevent the scren from displaying #FFFFFF.
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Yeah but it will make the screen more yellow which the OP probably don't want. This just darkens the screen by a very small bit it's barly noticeable at 3% opacity and will not change the screen colors as the filter is black/grey. Seems to be enough to prevent the scren from displaying #FFFFFF.
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So it's just #FFFFFF that gets retained? Other colors like slightly different shades of white do not?
Related question: In your experience, does LG Warranty cover this issue say 5, 6, 7 or even 11 months after purchase? And what do they do? Do they replace the screen? Or is this not covered?
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Related question: In your experience, does LG Warranty cover this issue say 5, 6, 7 or even 11 months after purchase? And what do they do? Do they replace the screen? Or is this not covered?
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They cover the issue only if it's really bad (personal experience with G5) until 12 months, after is the seller that have to give you warranty services if you are in Europe
Wait. I didn't think image retention was even a thing on LCDs. I thought that was strictly an AMOLED issue. Is this specific to LG phones?
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Wait. I didn't think image retention was even a thing on LCDs. I thought that was strictly an AMOLED issue. Is this specific to LG phones?
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Imagre retention happens on LCDs, Burn-In on OLED displays, these are two differents things, the first one is due to a bad assembly (like happened to G5) and/or a bad display color managment, it's fixable by editing colors or using a blue light filter, and anyway it will always disappear if the display stays off for some minute (it depends on how bad the retention is), the second one is specific of ALL OLED displays, this means that it could happen on every device with an oled display and a static image on it, also this is permanent.
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Does the lg g6 have really bad image retention after 2 to one year of use or it a problem for the past lg phones
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Does the lg g6 have really bad image retention after 2 to one year of use or it a problem for the past lg phones
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LG G6 isn't even one year old yet.
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Does the lg g6 have really bad image retention after 2 to one year of use or it a problem for the past lg phones
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I have it since april, it's bad only if you use an app with static images for hours (for me it was fate go and telegram), but it's visible only with grey background at 80% brightness and disappears in some hours.
Really, coming from a G5, I can say that the problem here is far from being a real problem.
My device has some pretty bad image retention near the nav bar where the keyboard would be after having owned it for ~5 months. Theres an off-center patch of the screen that is brighter than the rest.
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It seems that there is a lot of variance between the display quality between different SGS2 units. I myself was perfectly happy with mine until the screen had to be replaced by the Samsung warranty service. The new display wasn't half as bright as the one before and the light sensor coupled with a dim display makes it even worse. I've done some comparison between different units and found that almost all of them had different quality displays - many way too dark.
I made a photo comparison between our own to SGS2s using an original device (bought in early July) as a reference as its display performance is similar to the one I used to have in mine before the replacement.
I would be happy to hear if you have noticed similar differences with you own or your friends units just to get sense of how common the issue is.
The full story below!
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I’ve been a pretty happy owner of a Samsung Galaxy SII since April. I’ve especially been pleased with the excellent display that is able to deliver true blacks while being one of the brightest screens out there.
Imagine my horror then when the display broke. It looked like something was leaking inside it. It started as a minor pink hue in the edge of the screen and in a couple days had turned into a bruise covering one fourth of the screen. All the pixels seemed to work but there was a shadow with distinct edges clouding the picture.
The issue
Luckily the warranty covered this and the service point returned my phone with a note: “Display module replaced“. Little did I know that not all Super Amoled+ screens are created equal. After a minute of using the serviced device I noticed that the screen was somehow dark – noticeably darker than before. I checked all the settings – everything was set up the way it had been before with the auto-brightness set on. It just wasn’t the screen I had come to know. We have two units of the SGS2 at home and so I compared the serviced one with the other original unit. The display in the original (reference) unit was noticeably brighter than mine. The difference was even more apparent in the dark shades – where the reference display separated several different shades of dark grays mine only displayed black. The original screen on the reference device delivered the same quality as my ‘pre-serviced’ unit. Then I turned off the auto-brightness on both devices and cranked up the brightness to the max. Again the serviced unit was visibly dim compared to the reference unit. Even the color space between the devices are different – the original quite natural and a tad warm and the serviced one distinctly cool with whites tilted towards blue.
Next I borrowed a couple of other S2′s from colleagues at the office and it turned out their devices were just as dim as my serviced one – one even dimmer! I guess this explains why some reviewers and users have judged the display on the SGS2 to be too dark – something that I always thought to be a silly complaint. It seems that the display quality between devices varies greatly. I’m currently expecting a reply from my service point as to what I should do with my ‘faulty’ screen – I’ll let you know how this pans out.
I tried taking photos with the reference unit and the serviced unit side-by-side. If you think the differences are small and to complain is silly you should know that the real life effect is that taking photos and watching videos is now a pain because every shadow is just a solid black area and when you go into a dark room the auto-brightness drops the brightness way too low. So if you own a Samsung Galaxy s2 with a dark screen – you are one of the unlucky ones.
Below are the comparison shots. If you suspect you have one of the dark screens feel free to leave a comment below.
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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The forum won't let me add photos because I've just registered - only way to show them for now is to direct people to the site. Or about six posts from now I guess I will be allowed to post pictures as well.
I will add the whole text in a moment.
either way, it seems you joined specifically to talk about your site. Seems a bit trollish to me
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Happy now? Any comments on the real topic of this thread?
no not really
Yeah i'm also one of the unlucky ones with the dark screen. What makes it worse is the blue tinge when you tilt the screen slightly. Another problem, my screen keeps going bright for about 3 to 4 secs about every 45 seconds and then goes dull again. Nothing to do with auto brightness by the way because i turned it off.
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Yeah I've noticed the hue shift when tilting the display as well. Also on gray and white surfaces when the screen dims the color is not smooth but looks rather like there is some dirt under the glass. Like it's a whole different type of display than the one in our other SGS2.
I experienced the same situation. I had to replace the screen on the S2 bought back in may due to nasty scratches. The screen was otherwise really top notch with no visible defects.
The one they replaced with is much dimmer and actually has a higher contrast which leads to some color burn. There are also stripes from top to bottom when I pull down the top bar. And as if that was not enough, the picture is grainy. As you pointed out it feels as a totally different display.
I am not going to swap it since I managed to lower the contrast to an acceptable level but it's quite disappointing regardless.
This could be samsungs way of trying to slow down the screen burning?
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I still haven't bought an S2 yet but this is a bit of a concern. I'd like to hear from more people with a newer phone, do they have the same screen issues as mentioned above.
If you come from HTC to Samsung, you're certainly going to notice the difference. At least in my case, the HTC had better whites on screen and no blue tinge when tilting screen.
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I frequently flash between the XW and XX series of ROMs and notice that on some roms, the screen is darker and on others it is brighter. This is when it is being tested at 100% brightness and display setting set to normal.
If i knew for sure that flashing my phone with the correct ROM would make my screen brighter, i would do it in a flash.
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Same problem with the white sgs2 I bought few days ago. Really disappointing.
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Same problem with the white sgs2 I bought few days ago. Really disappointing.
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Would you still recommend the S2 with the screen as it is on yours, or has it spoilt a good phone?
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Would you still recommend the S2 with the screen as it is on yours, or has it spoilt a good phone?
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I would still recommend the phone, but you will have to use manual brightness instead.
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For those with the dim screen, if you are adventurous enough, you can follow the instructions here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235212&highlight=brightness to crank up the brightness of your phone so that you can use the auto brightness.
I have a new white sgs2 and this is the first Android phone I have had where the auto brightness on all roms Samsung or cm7 is totally useless. I use manual now and it looks good at around 1 3rd brightness so heavens knows how low the auto brightness is setting it!
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Yeah I've noticed the hue shift when tilting the display as well. Also on gray and white surfaces when the screen dims the color is not smooth but looks rather like there is some dirt under the glass. Like it's a whole different type of display than the one in our other SGS2.
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I have the same problem, dirt under glass. The strange thing is, I got a replacement, the same problem. When you lower the brightness, there is small dark area, like dust. Two devices the same shop, the same problem. I start wondering it is the production quality Samsung can get
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If i knew for sure that flashing my phone with the correct ROM would make my screen brighter, i would do it in a flash.
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I have talked about this several times and even sent private messages to developers but all ignored it.
Anyway, try flashing the official kernal of KE2 and you will see the difference.
The collors and screen brightness will change without any effect what so ever to the device performance.
Screen Adjuster is another way to correct this, it is a free program in the market which will do the job for you .
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I still haven't bought an S2 yet but this is a bit of a concern. I'd like to hear from more people with a newer phone, do they have the same screen issues as mentioned above.
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HTC is no better, I had a Sensation before and it had the same problems, They use two different screen types and many complains about it in the Sensation forum.
I went to the Microsoft Store today to check out a Lumia 800. I knew about the pentile matrix and all that. But what I wasn't expecting was to see burn-in images on the screen.
I noticed that no matter which application I open up, there was always a slight remnant of the "messaging" and "e-mail" tiles. It came as a surprise because I have never seen burn-ins on recent displays.
Has anyone experienced this? Or perhaps should I just assume that it's a phone that's likely been heavily stressed at the Microsoft Store? I hope it's just the unit I played with.
Also the whites aren't quite as white as my HD2. Can anyone give an opinion on the display of whites compared to other phones?
Thanks in advance. It's a great phone and I will most likely be getting one.
AMOLED screens do indeed suffer from burn in, unfortunately.
I haven't heard about burn-in of AMOLED screens, i must research it. Hopefully it'll fade. However i have noticed the whites are light blue. Really caught my attention because the blacks are so black.
EDIT: well apparently the burn in is permanent.
Apparently the burn-ins only happened while the same image is displayed.
And since it was a store and the demo models are usually stuck on the same menu screen for an excessive amount of time (especially if sleep is disabled and left over night).. burn in can easily occur.
I can say that in my 2 years of having the original Galaxy S, I've never experienced a burn-in
I have seen burn-ins on LCD and plasma screens as well. But AMOLED is more susceptible of the three technologies. More details at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_burn-in#Plasma.2C_LCD_and_OLED_displays
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I have seen burn-ins on LCD and plasma screens as well.
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Comparatively speaking the chances of burn-in on LCD is negligible compared to OLED and plasma. You usually just get some temporary ghosting which disappears after a while.
I don't think you'll get a burn in on your Lumia with normal use. It sleeps automatically after a while, so this sort of things is prevented. I have never been looking at the same screen for hours, so a burn in won't happen very easily I think...
If you run your phone for hours at full brightness with a static image being displayed - as it is done in stores - you will notice burn-in on AMOLEDs. You will notice it on some other popular display technologies as well, but AMOLED is more susceptible for that kind of problem.
In real usage scenarios, you won't normally have to deal with burn-in.
Gave a thanks to everyone for your help.
It sounds like the unit I saw at the Microsoft Store is just under abnormal conditions. It's probably just overworked.
I'm going to assume that under normal operations, the screen should do just fine without burn-ins.
Time to buy Amazon U.S. is selling for $529, good deal?
hawc1506 said:
Gave a thanks to everyone for your help.
It sounds like the unit I saw at the Microsoft Store is just under abnormal conditions. It's probably just overworked.
I'm going to assume that under normal operations, the screen should do just fine without burn-ins.
Time to buy Amazon U.S. is selling for $529, good deal?
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I think indeed that the unit in the MS Store was just on the home screen for hours and hours. Not a real use scenario
Seems like a nice deal, over here it's €470, it's almost the same.
I got burn in on my focus; since then I've been very careful with my focus s and lumia. My best advice, besides the obvious of not leaving the screen on for extended periods, is to move your top 4 tiles around from time to time.
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I got burn in on my focus; since then I've been very careful with my focus s and lumia. My best advice, besides the obvious of not leaving the screen on for extended periods, is to move your top 4 tiles around from time to time.
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You mean you've got a burn in with your tiles on normal usage? Hmm, I'll be careful
Depends on what you mean by normal usage. I had my screen on high, 5 minute timeout. Sometimes I remembered to lock it, sometimes I didn't and it sat there for 5 minutes. I won't do that again ;-)
Yeah that's not good for AMOLED.
Lock time 1 minute won't cause a problem, I guess?
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Lock time 1 minute won't cause a problem, I guess?
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I doubt it, but at the very least I'd have it set to dim at 30 seconds just to be safe.
To OP, can you post some SS?
one of my phone was the omnia hd witch has the first AMOLED screen and after 2 years my screen is perfect, now i bought a lumia 800 but i still have the omnia hd and the screen is simply perfect.
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To OP, can you post some SS?
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I haven't been back to the Microsoft store. If I go back and take a look at it in the near future, I'll try to get a few pictures. Chances are I won't though because my Lumia's coming in the mail
Im having the same issue, but mines 10x worse. It started with a small dark patch in the corner but slowly spread and now I have a really severe burn-in of my messaging, complete with "April" and my girlfriends name and the keyboard burned into it.
Even indoors, if the screen gets hit with direct light, there is a clearly visible crosshatch pattern across the whole display. Anyone else notice this?
Got to say I'm not too impressed with the screen quality. Light bleed, dead pixels and now this. My much cheaper Redmi 1s has none of these issues. Sure, the colours aren't as vibrant but not sure which I'd choose given the choice.
Don't see any of this, perfect picture from every angle and every light condition
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There is nothing in the screen which unimpressive but If you you are expecting S6 or Z5 level screen then you are expecting too much and than you bought wrong one, just buy G4 S6 or Z5 if you want everything impressive except price
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Don't see any of this, perfect picture from every angle and every light condition
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There is nothing in the screen which unimpressive but If you you are expecting S6 or Z5 level screen then you are expecting too much and than you bought wrong one, just buy G4 S6 or Z5 if you want everything impressive except price
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If you get direct light on the screen, you don't see the digitizer? I noticed it within a couple mins of using phone and wasn't looking for it. Never seen a digitizer so easily noticeable before.
I don't think its too much to expect at this price a screen without noticeable light bleeding, dead pixels etc. Honestly I think they used the European promotion to shift these phones with slightly subpar displays. Btw, I think you are overrating Sony's screens. They are known for the same issues I noticed on this Honor 7, even on their flagships.
I noticed this also but it happened to me after I removed stock "screen protector" and replaced with Nilkin tempered glass. I quess stock screen protector somehow filtered grid away.
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I noticed this also but it happened to me after I removed stock "screen protector" and replaced with Nilkin tempered glass. I quess stock screen protector somehow filtered grid away.
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I still have stock screen protector and also see it. I guess its just coincidence you noticed only after installing Nillkin.
I am very critcal when it comes to display, both with computers and smaller screens. Had there been a visible grid on my H7 I would have seen it, no doubt at all. I never could stand the Sony Trinitron support wires at the old CRT monitors, and a lot of people.never saw them!
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Can't really think of a touchscreen phone I have owned where I couldn't see the digitiser at some point, at the right angle, in the right light.
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Can't really think of a touchscreen phone I have owned where I couldn't see the digitiser at some point, at the right angle, in the right light.
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I thougt we were talking about when it bothers you, not when you have to set it up in a lab to see it!
I havent seen the grid under normal use so far, if I see it under very special scrutiny, well, let it go!
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I thougt we were talking about when it bothers you, not when you have to set it up in a lab to see it!
I havent seen the grid under normal use so far, if I see it under very special scrutiny, well, let it go!
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I noticed it within 5 seconds of taking the phone out of the box when the screen was tilted towards a light bulb. The digitizier of the Honor 7 seems unique in that it's very visible in artificial indoor lighting.
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I noticed it within 5 seconds of taking the phone out of the box when the screen was tilted towards a light bulb. The digitizier of the Honor 7 seems unique in that it's very visible in artificial indoor lighting.
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You must clearly, no doubt, have an other screen/digitizer combo than I have, that's for sure!
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I thougt we were talking about when it bothers you, not when you have to set it up in a lab to see it!
I havent seen the grid under normal use so far, if I see it under very special scrutiny, well, let it go!
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I don't think you understood my post. I was saying I've seen them on all phones I've owned with touchscreens..... As long as the phone is in the 'perfect' combination of light and angle etc. In other words i was saying it is ridiculous for people to be complaining or thinking it os an 'issue'.
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I don't think you understood my post. I was saying I've seen them on all phones I've owned with touchscreens..... As long as the phone is in the 'perfect' combination of light and angle etc. In other words i was saying it is ridiculous for people to be complaining or thinking it os an 'issue'.
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Sorry, yes I did not get your intended message then! [emoji4]
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I don't think you understood my post. I was saying I've seen them on all phones I've owned with touchscreens..... As long as the phone is in the 'perfect' combination of light and angle etc. In other words i was saying it is ridiculous for people to be complaining or thinking it os an 'issue'.
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I have several phones and never seen the digitizer except in bright sunlight. With the Honor 7 I noticed it indoors immediately. Even checking side by side now in same conditions, I can't see the digitizer on any of them except the Honor 7. The screen looks like it has a texture to it when light hits it, not like the usual barely noticeable digitizer pattern. I agree that its not really an issue though, more of an observation.
I think honor 7 is one of the best phones I have had for this. I have just spent a few moments trying to see it and can't. I have always been able to see it before. I still have the supplied protector on also, if that makes a difference.
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I think honor 7 is one of the best phones I have had for this. I have just spent a few moments trying to see it and can't. I have always been able to see it before. I still have the supplied protector on also, if that makes a difference.
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Check indoors at night time. Also at night it is visible with high brightness on white background, it you look closely.
Yes, your right, I can see them too.. But I had to put the display INTO my eyes that I was able to see them.. :silly:
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Yes, your right, I can see them too.. But I had to put the display INTO my eyes that I was able to see them.. :silly:
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Well.. into your eyes for straight ahead but tilted at light you can see from normal distance. It is minor issue though. I'm more annoyed with my dead pixel
When I saw your post I started looking for it, with different angles, different lights, etc... I can't see it !
I remember that it was sometimes visible on my Galaxy Note 2 and LG G3, but only with intense sunlight so I'll look again on the Honor 7 next summer I guess
I think the general product quality is the main factor, for example, I often see it (even indoors) on my Onda V989, which is a 130$ chinese tablet. (The tablet is great, but the screen has a weak max brightness).
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When I saw your post I started looking for it, with different angles, different lights, etc... I can't see it !
I remember that it was sometimes visible on my Galaxy Note 2 and LG G3, but only with intense sunlight so I'll look again on the Honor 7 next summer I guess
I think the general product quality is the main factor, for example, I often see it (even indoors) on my Onda V989, which is a 130$ chinese tablet. (The tablet is great, but the screen has a weak max brightness).
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It is very different looking than any other digitizer, so maybe you are looking for the wrong thing. It is not dots, and not a normal digitizer pattern. It looks more like a light texture on the screen. In daylight it creates a rainbow effect.
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It is very different looking than any other digitizer, so maybe you are looking for the wrong thing. It is not dots, and not a normal digitizer pattern. It looks more like a light texture on the screen. In daylight it creates a rainbow effect.
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I'll check as soon as possible !
Hi there. Long story short I've already encounter a "mild" screen burn in on my brand new S9+ I receied last Friday. I say it's mild cause it dissapears after few moments but I'm not happy with that on almost £900 phone. Basically when I use AOD in blue and unlock the device I can see a ghost of the clock burned into my home screen. I reckon it's because it does not moe as much as it used to on my S8. Im attaching a short video but its hard to see in on there. And funny enough all it takes is few minutes for it to show up. Does anyone seen something like that before? My only concern is that if it's doing it already after few days how bad will it be few months in? I've contacted O2 to get it replaced but I hope my next one will be ok.
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Luk4shO said:
Hi there. Long story short I've already encounter a "mild" screen burn in on my brand new S9+ I receied last Friday. I say it's mild cause it dissapears after few moments but I'm not happy with that on almost £900 phone. Basically when I use AOD in blue and unlock the device I can see a ghost of the clock burned into my home screen. I reckon it's because it does not moe as much as it used to on my S8. Im attaching a short video but its hard to see in on there. And funny enough all it takes is few minutes for it to show up. Does anyone seen something like that before? My only concern is that if it's doing it already after few days how bad will it be few months in? I've contacted O2 to get it replaced but I hope my next one will be ok.
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In my experience, screen "burn in" doesn't go away after a few moments. So if it does, then it's not really burned in, and isn't really screen burn in, yet.
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That's why I've called it "mild" burn in. I know it doesn't go away cause I've had it on my previous Galaxy phones near the end of first year. This one does kinda ghost behind. I'm having a door swap this morning so hopefully it was just a case of bad batch. Also I managed to get a better video of what is occuring to my device if anyone is interested
Luk4shO said:
That's why I've called it "mild" burn in. I know it doesn't go away cause I've had it on my previous Galaxy phones near the end of first year. This one does kinda ghost behind. I'm having a door swap this morning so hopefully it was just a case of bad batch. Also I managed to get a better video of what is occuring to my device if anyone is interested
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Ye let's have a look
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Ye let's have a look
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youtu.be/_bUjJ7UG49o
Hopefully you can still see it with YT compression
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That's much worse than you made it sound, in my opinion. I'd definately return it.
CuBz90 said:
That's much worse than you made it sound, in my opinion. I'd definately return it.
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Well, yeah. I was shocked as well cause in all my previous Galaxy phones I've never seen anything like that. Luckilly I'm only minutes away now from courier bringing the new one. Does your S9 show anything similiar? Or is it possible I've just got the dodgy batch?
Luk4shO said:
Well, yeah. I was shocked as well cause in all my previous Galaxy phones I've never seen anything like that. Luckilly I'm only minutes away now from courier bringing the new one. Does your S9 show anything similiar? Or is it possible I've just got the dodgy batch?
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I've been checking mine every day just to be sure and have had nothing like this. No burn in at all.
CuBz90 said:
I've been checking mine every day just to be sure and have had nothing like this. No burn in at all.
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Do you also use AOD? If so hopefully mine was just a bad one-off. The thing is, only few minutes are enough to make it seen. First time I wasn't even looking for it, phone was not moved for about an hour and then when I unlocked it it was pretty much black on white, that bad. A lot worse than on that video. Hope Samsung will notice the problem and make some adjustment to how AOD clock moves around cause it's moving nowhere as much as it did on my S8
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Do you also use AOD? If so hopefully mine was just a bad one-off. The thing is, only few minutes are enough to make it seen. First time I wasn't even looking for it, phone was not moved for about an hour and then when I unlocked it it was pretty much black on white, that bad. A lot worse than on that video. Hope Samsung will notice the problem and make some adjustment to how AOD clock moves around cause it's moving nowhere as much as it did on my S8
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Ye I also use AOD
Got my replacement device this morning and I can confirm that this one does the same thing for me. The question is, am I really unlucky to get a bad batch or is the problem a lot more widespread on S9+?
I Can't see anything in your video....
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Have a look at the second video I've posted. Right where the clock is you'll se the ghost of it when I'll unlock the phone
This is why I very much dislike AMOLED. Sure, it looks pretty but you have to watch what you display, how long you display it, and the brightness of your screen. The Nexus 6 burned in on me in less than a week and that was the last AMOLED device I owned.
I've been debating on trying the S9+, mostly because it's almost impossible to find a decent device without AMOLED these days. Same with glass builds. Yeah, they look nice but they're fragile and prone to scratching.
Seems like everyone jumped on the AMOLED bandwagon and now the glass build bandwagon. It's looking like the notch is next.
ive read OLED screen will have a tendency "burn in" pixels that are always on. need to keep things moving.
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ive read OLED screen will have a tendency "burn in" pixels that are always on. need to keep things moving.
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Yeah but not on a new device when picture is displayed for only few minutes. I've had some burn in on my previous Galaxy phones but that was about 10 months into ownership, not days
Rule #1 never use white **** on AOD
Rule #2 never use white widget
Rule #3 Use Dark theme
im out
Speaking of dark themes are they ever going to have an entire black scheme, system-wide?
I can understand having white themes for LCD devices but I really miss the system color schemes of the jellybean days.
When the S5 came out, for example, the dialer was so damn bright you could use it for a torch! (flashlight)
Ridiculous.
It.Needs.To.Stop.Now
Also, burn in and persistence are different. With the former being permanent and latter temporary.
Hopefully it's not permanent.
I usually disable AOD anyhow.
It's really dim but I feel safer with it gone.
AL_IRAQI said:
Rule #1 never use white **** on AOD
Rule #2 never use white widget
Rule #3 Use Dark theme
im out
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AOD has been designed to keep shifting the content on screen so that burn-in doesn't happen. Not sure if anyone has noticed but I have noticed it on S7E and S8 so far.
cpufrost said:
Speaking of dark themes are they ever going to have an entire black scheme, system-wide?
I can understand having white themes for LCD devices but I really miss the system color schemes of the jellybean days.
When the S5 came out, for example, the dialer was so damn bright you could use it for a torch! (flashlight)
Ridiculous.
It.Needs.To.Stop.Now
Also, burn in and persistence are different. With the former being permanent and latter temporary.
Hopefully it's not permanent.
I usually disable AOD anyhow.
It's really dim but I feel safer with it gone.
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Use custom Samsung themes, or Substratum ones, they usually theme more stuff system wise
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AOD has been designed to keep shifting the content on screen so that burn-in doesn't happen. Not sure if anyone has noticed but I have noticed it on S7E and S8 so far.
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I know it keeps moving, but it's better to play it safe and use other colors + without a background, still better than disabling it
So i swapped my first device kinda wish i hadent as the screen was great.
New device has green tint anything below 10% (this i can just about live with as i just raise brightness). However i recently noticed in direct sunlight yesterday that i can barely see screen and it tints purple (yes i have adaptive brightness on)
Now something really strange in bright sunlight when a shadow casts across a white screen , the shadow against screen is green has anyone else noticed this ......?
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hard to capture properly as spare phone is an old iphone but the green shadow is from my hand which can be observed above , also notice how the white tints to purple.
tonnytech said:
So i swapped my first device kinda wish i hadent as the screen was great.
New device has green tint anything below 10% (this i can just about live with as i just raise brightness). However i recently noticed in direct sunlight yesterday that i can barely see screen and it tints purple (yes i have adaptive brightness on)
Now something really strange in bright sunlight when a shadow casts across a white screen , the shadow against screen is green has anyone else noticed this ......?
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hard to capture properly as spare phone is an old iphone but the green shadow is from my hand which can be observed above , also notice how the white tints to purple.
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Well the green tint below 10% i don't experience with my phone.
The other notion/complaint, is just natural properties of an OLED panel, all my previous phones had the purple in sunlight tint.
probably the brighter sunlight reflecting in one of the physical layers of the panel. Nothing you can get rid off unless you want LCD.
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Well the green tint below 10% i don't experience with my phone.
The other notion/complaint, is just natural properties of an OLED panel, all my previous phones had the purple in sunlight tint.
probably the brighter sunlight reflecting in one of the physical layers of the panel. Nothing you can get rid off unless you want LCD.
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i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
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i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
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Look, the picture you took in sunlight is normal behavior and physics.
The low light low brightness pictures are indeed not normal, indeed should be exchanged for another device!
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i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
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also, on the first photo I can see black bar near punch hole
exactly the same as on mine.. will probably send it back
Just got new phone July batch , first impressions are a lot less green tint ..... thank god June panel was a joke July panel I think its still there just a lot less this time ... will see later this evening and post picture back.
black bar across top i can see but not to bothered about this in all honesty.
Colours have to admit whites are cleaner as a result but rest look to be calibrated identical to last panel.
I think my first panel dated May was the best colours just seemed to wow instantly , everyone who saw phone commented on display in a positive manner.
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Here, this is how mine looks like at min brightness: green tint and horizontal bar
Sending it back
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Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
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Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
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Might that be because your device is prior to May on build?
I think it’s pointless replacing now I’ve had three models and it seems inherent now from my own experiences.
Do you use dark mode?
Sorry for the questions just trying to get some feedback
I’m only speculating but my latest device also has it my only device which didn’t have it was built in May , I’m wondering if the early batches had good panels for reviews etc and they cheaped out after that to bring production costs down (speculation as I say) but seen this before with other companies.
One thing I’ve noticed on my latest device is it goes a lot brighter than my previous June model. I’m thinking if I want to keep this device, I’m going to have use light mode which is a shame, if we had root we could just black out all the grey parts like status bar notifications etc and mask issue.
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Might that be because your device is prior to May on build?
I think it’s pointless replacing now I’ve had three models and it seems inherent now from my own experiences.
Do you use dark mode?
Sorry for the questions just trying to get some feedback
I’m only speculating but my latest device also has it my only device which didn’t have it was built in May , I’m wondering if the early batches had good panels for reviews etc and they cheaped out after that to bring production costs down (speculation as I say) but seen this before with other companies.
One thing I’ve noticed on my latest device is it goes a lot brighter than my previous June model. I’m thinking if I want to keep this device, I’m going to have use light mode which is a shame, if we had root we could just black out all the grey parts like status bar notifications etc and mask issue.
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not sure about your theory abt early batches; my device's QC date is April 22 and yet I have display issues
seems this type of issues are pretty common with this panel which is used by both Oppo and OnePlus
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Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
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not sure about your theory abt early batches; my device's QC date is April 22 and yet I have display issues
seems this type of issues are pretty common with this panel which is used by both Oppo and OnePlus
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well that shoots that theory down
I dont think there`s much point swapping its like looking for a unicorn either return and try a device without this samsung panel or find a way to live with it sadly :/
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well that shoots that theory down
I dont think there`s much point swapping its like looking for a unicorn either return and try a device without this samsung panel or find a way to live with it sadly :/
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yep, seems so.. a lottery
the thing is that I can see this issue only at very low brightness, somewhere below ~15%
and in everyday use the display is perfect (I anyway always use light theme)
but then again it bothers me knowing it is there
on the fence now:
send the Oppo back (already have return label) and try luck again with OP8 Pro (order placed, should be dispatched tomorrow; I sent back my first OP 8 for a refund due to same display issues)
or just live with it, keep Oppo and cancel OP 8 order...
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yep, seems so.. a lottery
the thing is that I can see this issue only at very low brightness, somewhere below ~15%
and in everyday use the display is perfect (I anyway always use light theme)
but then again it bothers me knowing it is there
on the fence now:
send the Oppo back (already have return label) and try luck again with OP8 Pro (order placed, should be dispatched tomorrow; I sent back my first OP 8 for a refund due to same display issues)
or just live with it, keep Oppo and cancel OP 8 order...
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Hold onto oppo await OnePlus if it's green then decide on which phone to keep or return both ... Less swaps
Good luck ?
How do you see your QC date?
belloni said:
How do you see your QC date?
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It is on the box
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It is on the box
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You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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I cancelled OP8 order that day as I thought that I can live with Oppo's screen. But I can't, so I sent it back today.
Ordered OP8 pro again, it is arriving tomorrow. Will update once received, fingers crossed.
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tonnytech said:
You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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so, got my 2nd OP8 pro y'day and the black bar is there and green tint at low brightness as well. QC date is May 28th, the same was for my first OP8 pro
this is my 3rd device with same panel and same issues (2x OP8 pro, 1x Find X2 pro)