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-overheating issues(you can literally cook eggs on the back of this phone)
-low gaming performance, games stutter a lot, some even run with less than 20FPS(just look at this - twice cheaper phone outperforming m4)
-low available usable storage(under 2GB)
-takes forever to charge(5 hours+ via USB)
-takes forever for the camera to focus
-no way to root it
-no way to unlock the bootloader(apparently now you can)
-overall feels very laggy, unresponsive and slow
+waterproof
+decent camera
If i have to make a conclusion i'd say its the most disappointing phone i ever bought and just suggest to people to avoid it.
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-overheating issues(you can literally cook eggs on the back of this phone)
-low gaming performance, games stutter a lot, some even run with less than 20FPS(just look at this - twice cheaper phone outperforming m4)
-low available usable storage(under 2GB)
-takes forever to charge(5 hours+ via USB)
-takes forever for the camera to focus
-no way to root it
-no way to unlock the bootloader
-overall feels very laggy, unresponsive and slow
+waterproof
+decent camera
If i have to make a conclusion i'd say its the most disappointing phone i ever bought and just suggest to people to avoid it.
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Overheating issues? I get a max of 60 degree Celsius, not enough to cook
Gaming and performance issues - Yea.. Sony screwed up with
.99 update
Storage space - I got 3GB free lol. But yea, I feel you.
I can charge faster than 5hrs!
Camera focus is okayish, it outperformed my friend's Mi3 so I'm proud.
Root - Almost there I think
Bootloader - It's unlockable already.
The phone isn't that too bad, just the firmware that screwed the performance. Downgrade the phone and you should get a better experience.
I mostly agree with AndyPhoenix9879
Mine doens't seem to overheat that much even after hours of 3g web browsing ( i dont play games)
Performance is a issue with 2.99 thats why i flashed back 1.100
storage is a problem but after unistalling all bloatware and disabling anything else (that i dont need) i got 2.97GB free
Charging with a 1200mAh wall charger takes no more than 2 hours, if you charge only with computer usb 5 hours is ok, pc usb gives up to 500mah so a 2400mah battery needs 2400/500 almost 5 hours
camera is just ok
root, hope it comes soon and bootloader as AndyPhoenix9879 mentioned is unlocked already.
Overheating is the biggest problem. Using camera make the phone hotter, capture picture is so slow. I'm on plan to buy a second phone while sony M4 let me down day by day.
The problem is not root. Camera with 54-100Mb/s is fast,I push button and no lag. Very good performance with firm.112 35400 in antutu. I play emulators ppsspp,reicast,mupen64 and my phone no is hot. Only when charge by USB and I do hotspot wifi and ftp server and play at same time because no power in USB to charge.
Is there anyway to get otg?
Like by using a powered Otg cable.
Xperia L got otg in a similar method.
.112 is the spanish generic firmware of m4 aqua.are you absolutely sure it doesn't overheat?
Yes, I'm sure. If you want I can do any test. Only hot when charge by usb for many hours. My phone is UK without company, with 112.
Im using newest firmware 2.99 and im not seen lags and times where phone got slow..
Overheating.. Max temp. 80*C, okay..
But bad game performance? No no no, WoTB max settings 30-50 fps, MC5 normally playable, GTA3 Normally playable.. Etc.
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But bad game performance?
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The E4g have much lower resolution so it is absolutely not comparable performance.
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The E4g have much lower resolution so it is absolutely not comparable performance.
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25% less to be exact(1500 pixels versus 2000) and costs 50% less(130 euros versus 270) , why can't it be compared?
BTW: My phone seems to get around 29k on antutu on 64bit(just after factory reset), no idea how you are getting 35k.
Downgrade to spanish firm 112 from xperiafirm with flashtool. 35400 in antutu,you will have mass storage option again amera faster and no lag. Y play ppsspp at full speed with tekken soul calibour,shenmue in reicast...
I got this phone to replace my broken s4 for a period of time. I think most of my issues with it can be resolved once root is achieved and an optimized stock OS rom is made.
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25% less to be exact(1500 pixels versus 2000) and costs 50% less(130 euros versus 270) , why can't it be compared?
BTW: My phone seems to get around 29k on antutu on 64bit(just after factory reset), no idea how you are getting 35k.
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Well 540x960= 500 000 pixels (approximately) for E4G. For m4 aqua we have 1280x720 which is 921 000 pixels. Almost twice more pixels for M4 Aqua to process. About the antutu result - results around 35000 were achievable with first firmware (.112). With current one more than 30000 is really difficult.
They have two totally different prices. The Snapdragon 615 is an oven, and the only thing they should REALLY improve is the focus speed and video quality.
Hubby brought a couple of these home last night to replace our seriously outdated phones (his was a blackberry that he ruined dropping it into a river, mine is a trusty old Optimus LG One that is still ticking but showing it's age). What I have seen so far
1 - came with 16gb and had 9 free so not too bad there, can upgrade with a card to an extra 128...should do me for a bit
2 - yes it gets quite warm during constant use but not unbearable, cools quickly
3- my wireless router is dieing (sigh..I loved my old DLink DR615!!!)
4 - holy freaking updates! holy bunch of crap bloatware!
5 - no pre-installed games? With all that bloatware you think they would at least have solitaire or something to kill time while updating everything
6 - camera...meh it's a phone, not a high end picture taking device but does fine to capture those spur of the moment happenings, haven't tested video yet
7 - like the display - netflix, crackle, etc all play clearly, very watchable
8. love lollipop plus the Sony overlay - they have incorporated some of the key features I used to have to download seperate apps for like silencing the whole phone with one click, move to sd, flashlight, etc... little things but it makes the overall experience nice.
9 - sound quality is decent for a midrange phone, call quality is great
10 - it's soo much bigger than any other phone I have had! First phone I had that didn't fit in my jean jacket pocket! that could cause some issues as I am very forgetful LOL
In all, no major complaints... once I get my internet connection woes sorted with the router I'll be able to download my larger games and see how it does there. For now I got Frozen Bubble installed so that will tide me over
I quite like the phone, but I'm getting a pretty strange bug - sometimes when I record a video, it comes out as black plus sound. Even in the pc I can't see anything but I can hear the sound. When I reboot, it's back to normal. It happens when I really want to record a video and then I realize that I haven't got anything. Is there anybody with the same problem?
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I quite like the phone, but I'm getting a pretty strange bug - sometimes when I record a video, it comes out as black plus sound. Even in the pc I can't see anything but I can hear the sound. When I reboot, it's back to normal. It happens when I really want to record a video and then I realize that I haven't got anything. Is there anybody with the same problem?
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Yes, that bug is happening to me too.
Gilmour79 said:
Yes, that bug is happening to me too.
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Reboot phone.
AndyPhoenix9879 said:
Reboot phone.
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Yeah as it might be the only solution, I can't just always do a test video and then reboot if it is black. The last time I wanted to record my squash match and then after 40min of recording it came out black. Hope they'll fix it with 6.0
I'm getting ready to pack in my M8, and I want to go the same size or smaller for under $450 (tops). The Z5c seems to be the only Android phone that really fits that bill while keeping respectable performance, but there are two issues that have me thinking twice: overheating and the "self-cracking glass".
I know nothing can be done about the screen (unless a tempered glass protector helps to keep it intact), but the overheating, if fixed, could sway me away from the Honor 8 or LG G5. I've read that the firmware update that came along with Marshmallow has largely fixed the problem, and combined with a patch available here that throttles the phone a little more aggressively, heat is no longer a big problem. That said, I'm concerned about gimping the performance of the phone in order to keep it from char-broiling my hands. How noticeable is the throttling and, if thermals are still an issue with the phone, how big of one are they?
If you wouldn't recommend the Z5c, the thermal issues remain or the throttling hurts performance in a noticeable way, I'd be curious if there are any other phones (with a micro SD slot) that you think are worth looking at.
Thanks!
Hey , i have my phone from March
this year, 3-4 updates still overheating..
battery top 46C, and cpu 60C MAX so far and stays there,
but! when battery reached 40C+ and CPU 60C+, device become 50% slow (i guess to prevent overheating)
on some games\apps you feel it, some not,
even on anutu cold device is about 90K hot device is about 50K score
after 5 -15 minutes of gaming already from 28 to 43, (depend room temp and game\app) sometimes i can shoot 4K videos for 10 minutes sometimes 1 hour
i think self cracked glass happening because two reasons
1 mainly reason: moving fast from cold when the glass is pretty hot by much (heat cause expanded)
2.sitting on device without notice
ps
sorry if my english is bad
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Hey , i have my phone from March
this year, 3-4 updates still overheating..
battery top 46C, and cpu 60C MAX so far and stays there,
but! when battery reached 40C+ and CPU 60C+, device become 50% slow (i guess to prevent overheating)
on some games\apps you feel it, some not,
even on anutu cold device is about 90K hot device is about 50K score
after 5 -15 minutes of gaming already from 28 to 43, (depend room temp and game\app) sometimes i can shoot 4K videos for 10 minutes sometimes 1 hour
i think self cracked glass happening because two reasons
1 mainly reason: moving fast from cold when the glass is pretty hot by much (heat cause expanded)
2.sitting on device without notice
ps
sorry if my english is bad
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Thank you! Do you know if the X Compact will run any cooler? The lower power chipset can only help, but I'm concerned about paying $500 for a phone that might not be as powerful as its older brother, which now retails for $100+ less, especially if the overheating and cracked glass issues aren't solved.
If only the Honor 8 wasn't riddled with iOS disease...
you're welcome
As far as iknow for the X compact does not have 4K, slower GPU,(CPU speed is about the same) not water resistant \proof
but he run abit cooler and got more RAM 3 for multitasking
i own only Z5 Compact
X compact base on youtube reviews and reading online
one of many
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-aB-h4OPlE
first, sorry for my english .. i have my z5c about 2 months and i don`t have any problems with overheat .. i think only some devices are afected .. i`m running 6.0.1 rooted .. before i had an xperia z2 and while i play a game (clash of clans) was a lil bit warmer than z5c ..
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first, sorry for my english .. i have my z5c about 2 months and i don`t have any problems with overheat .. i think only some devices are afected .. i`m running 6.0.1 rooted .. before i had an xperia z2 and while i play a game (clash of clans) was a lil bit warmer than z5c ..
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maybe hardware defective on some line, i remember every 3 months came new line ver 1 2 and 3 ( i think i have revision 1 or 2) 3 was available but didnt sold here
you can check your temp history somehow? like C3 widget?
or real time small app (shows cpu and batt temp)
maybe you dont play heavy games?
try run antutu 3-4 times see how much score is changing each run ,mine is from 90K to 50K more annoying then overheating himself
I run a few time antutu and i comback with results
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maybe hardware defective on some line, i remember every 3 months came new line ver 1 2 and 3 ( i think i have revision 1 or 2) 3 was available but didnt sold here
you can check your temp history somehow? like C3 widget?
or real time small app (shows cpu and batt temp)
maybe you dont play heavy games?
try run antutu 3-4 times see how much score is changing each run ,mine is from 90K to 50K more annoying then overheating himself
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here are the results:
Played 10 min`s of strategy game: Cpu temp: 41c Battery temp 35c
then : 1st antutu 70.432 Cpu temp 42c Battery temp 38c
2nd antutu 62.831 Cpu temp 41 c Battery temp 38c
3rd antutu 62.148 Cpu temp 41c Battery temp 39c
anyway , your antutu score is much higher than mine in the first time (i think depends what rom, kernel do you use..) , but like u see, mine didn`t drop at 50.000 in 3 attempts .anyway my max cpu temp was 42c when i run for first time antutu,
Hope i helpt you
yup , thanks
i guess its also depend on the ROM
im using last update stock rom and kernel
ill root my device after my warranty expired
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yup , thanks
i guess its also depend on the ROM
im using last update stock rom and kernel
ill root my device after my warranty expired
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you are not on the latest antutu 6.2.1. maybe that`s the problem ...
it about the same results with the newer version ill upload later
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you are not on the latest antutu 6.2.1. maybe that`s the problem ...
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here, i did now one is 36C and other 40C (the 1st one was right after unpluged from the charger) i let it cool off, and rerun
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here, i did now one is 36C and other 40C (the 1st one was right after unpluged from the charger) i let it cool off, and rerun
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What rom and kernel do you use? Do you have xposed?
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What rom and kernel do you use?
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stock :X i did not root yet
Any S810 device will overheat, it's inherently badly designed. Sony's hardware thermal solution is probably the best any OEM have done with the S810. It's also possible that Sony has optimized under-the-hood settings to further reduce load on the SoC and keep the temperature down.
Other software tweaks are mostly just a balance game of performance and throttling threshold.
Stock Sony firmware goes the more conservative route, so usually you won't experience noticeable heat when using it lightly.
It will still get pretty hot if you use it for intensive tasks that utilizes the full capacity of the hardware, such as playing demanding games, record in 4K for a long period of time, or watch videos that need a lot of complex decoding... etc.
If you're looking for performance without "unnecessary" throttling, just avoid all S810 devices.
Personally, most of the time I had no problems with the temp and perf of my Z5C, but there has been a few cases where I did experience slowdowns due to the throttling.
Got mine from December 2015. After few weeks of usage, it really overheats a lot. After several updates through the months, Device still overheats until now, still uncomfortable to the touch when it overheats. Tried reformatting yesterday, performance seems better with less bloatware stuff and on regular usage. But when cpu is under heavy load, device heats up and performance is reduced a lot to the point that it lags. But overall, still love my Z5C~ <3
It overheats uncomfortably. I tried xpower 4.0 ROM, smarttemperaturex mod, etc although it does reduce heat but not enough to be comfortable and im not talking about heavy tasks I'm talking about Firefox browser, WhatsApp and tapatalk.
The phone is almost never room temperature when using its either warm or hot which gets annoying after some time, don't even let me mention how hot it can get with few minutes of phone calls.
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I'd say go for X Compact. Zero overheating issues. This heat actually gets on your nerves at one point. While the gpu of X Compact is inferior, in long periods of gaming there won't be any throttling on XC but Z5c will give half the performance so at the end of the day, the X Compact will feel a lot snappier
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It overheats like crazy. I'm flashing 5.1 in hope that it will help.
When running Antutu i put my phone in refrigerator so that I can get a better score! :silly:
Any new cpu is hotter than quad-core of sd800/801 bcoz it's now much faster, even sd820 gets hot during heavy loading though better than sd810.
I've flashed SmartTemperatureX v1.61(no charging bug) and found temp is acceptable and battery life improved a bit.
Hey y'all,
Quick question to those who own the Moto Z.
1. What's your battery life and Screen on Time?
2. Do you use the battery mod?
3. Do you use a case with it?
I'm having overheating issues when using the an Incipio Bumper case + TUMI battery mod :
Device randomly freezes (requires a reboot to get out) or it doesn't wake up from sleep.
Bumper only / no Mods: no issues (except the usual terrible battery life)
Battery Mod only: thermal throttling (it lags a fair bit, occasional system shutoff)
(above happens at room temperature or air conditioned room)
There's no overheat warning either and issues persists after hard resets.
Previously there's issues of random freezes every couple few days, but I'm not too sure if it's due to heat or the device itself going bad.
Thanks.
Device: XT1650-03
Build: NPL25.86-30
My Moto Z does sometimes get hot and lag, especially when using the Tumi battery mod. Battery life is pretty bad for me but I work from home so it didn't bother me. I just use the battery mod when I'm going to be out all day.
Interestingly, the new Turbo Power mod doesn't seem to cause the same overheating issues.
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I'd recommend getting a warranty replacement from Motorola. Their service is good and will have a new device to you in a couple of days.
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My Moto Z does sometimes get hot and lag, especially when using the Tumi battery mod. Battery life is pretty bad for me but I work from home so it didn't bother me. I just use the battery mod when I'm going to be out all day.
Interestingly, the new Turbo Power mod doesn't seem to cause the same overheating issues.
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I'd recommend getting a warranty replacement from Motorola. Their service is good and will have a new device to you in a couple of days.
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Can you confirm that ? The TurboPower Mod I mean.
Yeah. I will probably head up to the local service center, reproduce the issue then and there
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Can you confirm that ? The TurboPower Mod I mean.
Yeah. I will probably head up to the local service center, reproduce the issue then and there
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I haven't had any issues since using the Turbo Power Mod. But I've only had it a week so the jury is still out.
I regularly use the Incipio Battery Mod and It barely heats up, no throttling whatsoever. My device rarely gets warm, even when gaming. Z's outside the US have a lower clocked 820, maybe that's why.
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I regularly use the Incipio Battery Mod and It barely heats up, no throttling whatsoever. My device rarely gets warm, even when gaming. Z's outside the US have a lower clocked 820, maybe that's why.
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And it just so happens I got the unlocked US variant. :sweat:
Hi.
My phone heats up a lot when ambient temperature is around 30-35 deg c. While using it in the sun , phone temps go to 41-44deg c, that's the point where the phone throttles hard. It's so annoying to use it when it gets hot which is almost all the time, coz it's so slow.
Don't even need to talk about battery mod. Literally my phone stops working when it's charging with the mod. Btw I'm using mophie battery mod.
I'm planning to throw this trash away. But I invested in this ****. .
So frustrated.
I'm sure Moto says this is common and it's part of the deal.
Please someone give me a fix. If rooting and custom ROM solves it then I'm down for it. But since my phone's still in warranty period someone confirm if there's any ROM which solves this. .
Thanks in advance.
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Hi.
My phone heats up a lot when ambient temperature is around 30-35 deg c. While using it in the sun , phone temps go to 41-44deg c, that's the point where the phone throttles hard. It's so annoying to use it when it gets hot which is almost all the time, coz it's so slow.
Don't even need to talk about battery mod. Literally my phone stops working when it's charging with the mod. Btw I'm using mophie battery mod.
I'm planning to throw this trash away. But I invested in this ****. .
So frustrated.
I'm sure Moto says this is common and it's part of the deal.
Please someone give me a fix. If rooting and custom ROM solves it then I'm down for it. But since my phone's still in warranty period someone confirm if there's any ROM which solves this. .
Thanks in advance.
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Hey Sanjay,
I updated to this firmware: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/how-to-update-to-official-7-1-1-moto-z-t3640298
And it solves like 90% of my issues listed above.
My Z sometimes gets warm when using Chrome, but that seems to be a Chrome-specific issue (already had this with my OnePlus Two, which, however, got HOT, not just warm ...) Apart from that, I can say that I'm very happy with my Z which I find to run consistently stable (not using any mods.) I usually get SOT of 3-4 hrs and have to charge every 1.5 days. I'm not an overly heavy user, though, and rarely play games.
Oh, and I'm using the European version, so if it's true that the US version clocks higher, this might explain why my phone never gets really hot (and also doesn't need to throttle aggressively even under high load.)
I have experienced sudden freezing frequently on my Moto Z Nougat 7.0 and still persisted on 7.1.1 - If i put the device down and returned in 10-15mins, it would be back to normal. Other times when I became more frustrated I would turn off, clear cache & reboot. This problem happens between one and two times a day. The battery life and projections are slaughtered upon rebooting from freezes. Safe mode doesn't exhibit the same problems at all so it is probably an app.
Color me SOL.
My Moto Z has been exhibiting a similar issue. It would heat up very easily on even mundane tasks, thermal throttle HARD and stay there until I leave it to cool off before very easily doing do again, at which the phone is already past the point of being uncomfortable to hold. It gets worse still with the Mophie Motomod.
I had to use a custom kernel and deliberately put the CPU in a state that causes it to be slower than a SD400 in order to even get acceptable temperatures.
I can’t do any OTA updates because my particular device would constantly brick every time it would apply an update. It has done this twice already and requires constant reflashing. As such, that guide isn’t of any help for me.
And since Motorola support wouldn’t help me as I didn’t get the phone from the country where I’m living now, I’m SOL. I might just get the Galaxy Note8 and be done with it, especially after receiving 2 electrical shocks from it (although to be fair, that may be more of a result of a bad USB-C cable, but still scary nonetheless).
Aside from the aforementioned shock (more to blame with the cable but the metal design did not help either), it’s been issue after issue since the beginning of this year, and since Motorola refuses to help due to an internal company policy, I’m forced to consider cutting losses and switching back to the Note. Really unhappy with this.
I've been a sony user for a long time, I'm familiar with overheating, but it has really gotten out of hand now!
I own Sony Xperia Z3+ with SD810, which has a significant problem with overheating.
However, i got used to it, but I don't think it's healthy for any CPU to hit about 80C in degrees.
I've been trying different solutions like clean flashing the stock ROM, flashing SmartTempratureX for SD810 from recovery, editing CPU values using L Speed. etc.
Nothing seems to fix this overheating, and I'm afraid that it might soon be bricked because of it.
I want a solution, I'm running 6.0 MM with Root, xposed and recovery, so anything is possible.
Thank you!
Screenshot in attachments.
I've flashed this mod https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...d-fsc-1-0-dont-sacrifice-performance-t3670586
And the average temperature reduced significantly ever since, i think it's super useful for people suffering from high temp on their Z4/Z3+
Heating problems was evident in the Z series I think except for the Z5. My friend has a Z2. His phone sometimes shutdowns itself because of heat.
Hey guys what are your temps on your GT2 Pro, mine is overheating in general use and in Antutut as well
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Hey guys what are your temps on your GT2 Pro, mine is overheating in general use and in Antutut as well
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I don't have that kind of problems. PUBG over 1 hour - warm, but not uncomfortably.
In general use - I don't notice any warming up.
When charging, I get lower temperatures than I used to with other phones...
Wait for the OS update (it can help).
Yeah it does overheat... filming in 4k happens a lot, it overheats and won't let you continue filming until it cools down.
The software is garbage, Realme set the throttling level too low. I am on the latest version (A.21 Realme UI 3.0) and when I run Antutu and CPU THrottling test I have seen throttling happen too early. In CPU THrottling test the temp only reached 53C however it has lost more than 10% performance. The phone itself was barely warm. My old Xiaomi Mi9T Pro can get really hot during the CPU THrottling Test program after 15 min run, however it will not throttle.
Realme built a really good vapor chamber in the phone, however they set the throttling temp too low in the software...
Oh and I run it in GT Mode, without GT Mode it is even worse.
I wonder why Realme decided to make the phone throttle so early ... I hope Realme will release the kernel source soon so that someone who can actually make a usable OS could do so.
Mine is not overheating now after the update and it is smooth without any issues!
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Yeah it does overheat... filming in 4k happens a lot, it overheats and won't let you continue filming until it cools down.
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Hi, did you able to fix this issue with software updates or the overheating issue still persist? I'm considering to buy this phone.