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Hi,
I use my xda with no carrying case or any other proteccion, since I am an Architect I use it in the field alot, but it is getting dirty and the coat is peeling off. Has somebody done some refurbishing work on his?. I need to do some major beauty work. Has any body apply any chemicals or do some treatment to the case?, what material is it made of?. Could I sanblasted or do some contemporary finishing to it?.
Thanks,
Alberto
I wanted to share my conversation with PDair with all of you. Beware when purchasing items from them because things may not always be as they appear on their site. This is in reference to: http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000495&products_id=12415
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I understand that but how am I to know that before I purchase it? The entire point isnt the correct usage, it is misrepresented on your site so I thought I could use the phone wihtout having to remove/open the case to do so becasue it is described as "Easy access to all buttons and features". The primary featture ona TOUCH phone is the touch screen which is not accessible.
I am not asking for a refund, I am asking for you to change your description to let people know that the only feature you can use on the device while it is closed in the case is answering the phone. I will not be purchasing any more items from you because if this issue and your obvious disregard for my issue. In addition, I am a very active member of several communities dedicated to mobile devices and will also let them know they should use caution when purchasing such items from PDair because of this issue.
Mallman
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:10:07 +0800
Hi ,
The Metal Case come with the transparent plastic protection to protect the display. Need open the case when use the touchscreen functions.
Your truly,
PDair Workshop
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Hello
Below is my recent order. I would like to express my dislike in the product your marketed and sent. I have no problems with the quality of the aluminum case. In fact i really like all the products you have sold me in the past. The problem I have is that I purchased this case when it is described as "Easy access to all buttons and features". I suppose one can read this in many ways but i read it as easy access to my device's touch screen. I do not feel the touchscreen is accessible at all so I have basically taken the case off my phone and it is placed in a drawer and I am forced to buy a different case. I cannot use my phone and this case and I feel is was misrepresented.
Mallman
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Dear PDair Workshop Customer,
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hmmmm, idk dude.
i can't really see the problem.
they got pics from it and you can see you need to open it.
Dude! What good is a protective casing that doesn't protect the screen?? Off course there is a transparant shield of some kind to prevent scratching!
I'm sorry, but I'm with PDAir on this one...
I am a very active member of several communities dedicated to mobile devices and will also let them know they should use caution when purchasing such items from PDair because of this issue.
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Thats uncalled for and frankly a bit lame
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Just checked the site. It states:
Thin, Lightweight and strong.
With transparent plastic protection.
Removable 360 degrees belt clip included.
Anodized aircraft-grade aluminum prevents from scratches.
Neoprene inner lining for extra protection and shock absorber.
Easy access to all buttons and features.
High tensil strength aluminum.
Cutouts give easy access to all handheld features.
Easy to install.
funk1980 said:
Thats uncalled for and frankly a bit lame
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Wow isnt that a tad harsh for my desire to come here and protect you against something I feel is a bit less descriptive than it should be? Is this forum not for a community of folks to watch each others backsides and share useful information for the betterment of our wallets and devices? I was nice to them in my initial email and praised my proir purchases for them to turn around and disgard my concerns with a "lesson" on how to use the case I obviously know how to use now that I have it lol. The better response would have at least been to admit the fact the description could have been better. Shoot I even told them I didnt want a refund so I wasnt in it for the money either.
funk1980 said:
Thats uncalled for and frankly a bit lame
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Just checked the site. It states:
Thin, Lightweight and strong.
With transparent plastic protection.
Removable 360 degrees belt clip included.
Anodized aircraft-grade aluminum prevents from scratches.
Neoprene inner lining for extra protection and shock absorber.
Easy access to all buttons and features.
High tensil strength aluminum.
Cutouts give easy access to all handheld features.
Easy to install.
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lol and I quote
Thin, Lightweight and strong.
With transparent plastic protection.
Removable 360 degrees belt clip included.
Anodized aircraft-grade aluminum prevents from scratches.
Neoprene inner lining for extra protection and shock absorber.
Easy access to all buttons and features.
High tensil strength aluminum.
Cutouts give easy access to all handheld features.
Easy to install.
please tell me how that is lame and better yet, not false advertising!!! (see bold items) "ALL" is a very very strong word.
funk1980 said:
Dude! What good is a protective casing that doesn't protect the screen?? Off course there is a transparant shield of some kind to prevent scratching!
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Do you have a screen protector? If not i suppose I understand how you dont understand that the touch screen is functional with it on. please define what a screen protector is to you.... isnt it a transparant piece of plastic (which is all they describe this as)?? if you put a screen protector on the screen what happens?? You can still use the touch screen. How in the world would you know that you cant use the touch screen on this?
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they got pics from it and you can see you need to open it.
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Just because they show you that the case opens is a ridiculous argument (no offense intended)
All cases open do they not? If they didnt how would you get the device in Im sorry but you need to be far more careful with your words when selling items like this. Perhaps you guys were not confused at all by the false advertising but I was. Does that make you smarter than me?? Perhaps Does it make their product description accurate?? Absolutely not. Would my argument hold up in a court of law, youbetcha thanks for listening
just look better next time? lol
i dont know dude but i saw it the first time, look at the lighting on the case, you see a screen.
dedafmonteur said:
just look better next time? lol
i dont know dude but i saw it the first time, look at the lighting on the case, you see a screen.
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no i agree, i totally get your point... I am just not as analytical as you guys are (the root word being anal hehe JK). But there are others like me in the world that just dont see things the same so as a business or supplier you should always assure your clients are clear. Hey I totaly accept I may be moronic (and my wife would agree) but part of me believes im not the only moron in the world lmao.
Thanks Mallman for letting me know. I am looking for a case, and at least I will avoid this item.
Sorry to know that your case is collecting dust in your drawer
Too late for you now, but PDair do have a video up on youtube showing the case in use and open.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hONCwfTJDVg
I'm cynical of most every product ( comes with old age ;p) and tend to look 'everywhere' for as much information before purchasing.
sydneysider said:
Too late for you now, but PDair do have a video up on youtube showing the case in use and open.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hONCwfTJDVg
I'm cynical of most every product ( comes with old age ;p) and tend to look 'everywhere' for as much information before purchasing.
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After watching that video, not only do I agree with mallman on the fact that people shouldn't have to zoom and analyze product pictures to decipher the real meaning behind the written product description, but the case is also of a really idiotic design.
They've got neat little holes cut out for the softkeys and the screen, and you can change the volume and pull out the stylus with the case closed, but (as far as I can see from the video) you can't use the stylus for anything without opening the case, nor can you actually PRESS the hardware keys from the hole in the bottom. Why not just cover them up, when the case is closed? I understand the hole for the screen, I can think of many situations where I only want to quickly see what's happening on the screen (although I'd apparently have to open the case then, too, to press the power key to turn the screen on again), but I can't think of a situation where I'd need to check up on the icons on the softkeys, seeing as for the whole time I've used the Blackstone, they have never ever changed.
I was actually considering ordering this case before I stumbled upon this thread, so thank you mallman and sydneysider, you guys just saved me $28.
Yes thank you. I too have seen this and assumed you could tap the screen through the cover, as you do a stick on screen cover.
in the spirit of fairness i must share PDair's following response to me. Keep in mind all I wanted is some sort of acknowledgment from them. they are back in my good graces
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Hi,
We will refund if you do not satisfy with our products. Refund (USD 28.00) will be provided within 7 working days upon receipt of returned goods. Please return the Metal Case and the Key Ring mark with return number #81724 to the following address :
Wong F. P.
Shop 73, G/F., Flat B,
Wealthy Garden,
Tsuen Wah Street,
Tsuen Wan, N.T.
Hong Kong
If you have any enquiries, please forward your email to [email protected]
Yours truly,
PDair Workshop
mallman said:
Wow isnt that a tad harsh for my desire to come here and protect you against something I feel is a bit less descriptive than it should be? Is this forum not for a community of folks to watch each others backsides and share useful information for the betterment of our wallets and devices? I was nice to them in my initial email and praised my proir purchases for them to turn around and disgard my concerns with a "lesson" on how to use the case I obviously know how to use now that I have it lol. The better response would have at least been to admit the fact the description could have been better. Shoot I even told them I didnt want a refund so I wasnt in it for the money either.
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Oh no you got me all wrong, I applaud you sharing your experiences in this case. It atleast gives people the notion to double check products and discriptions at internetshops. Just the part in your communicatoin to PDAir where you insinuate to be some influential forums guru. That won't get you anywhere and struck me as lame. I apologize if I offended you with my opninion.
Can I ask why you didn't just remove the plastic?
sydneysider said:
Too late for you now, but PDair do have a video up on youtube showing the case in use and open.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hONCwfTJDVg
I'm cynical of most every product ( comes with old age ;p) and tend to look 'everywhere' for as much information before purchasing.
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What for a purpuse has the cutout for the stylus if you can not use it when the case is closed ... just to get the stylus out before you open it ?
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Hey mallman, thnx for the warnin'. I am lookin' at that case, since my phones are in for a rough time, and was wondering whatcha think about the quality of the beltclip and if that plastic screen could be punched out fairly easy.
Other: since the thing is about to spend a bit of time on my belt, I can't help, but wonder about the closing mechanism, that is keeping the lid closed. Looks pretty flimsy - not well protected from accidental openings.
Also, does it have any effect on the radio/phone/GPS reception-functions
Thanx!
leenk said:
Other: since the thing is about to spend a bit of time on my belt, I can't help, but wonder about the closing mechanism, that is keeping the lid closed. Looks pretty flimsy - not well protected from accidental openings.
Thanx!
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I was thinking exactly the same, I can see that closing clip catching on something and either;
accidently being opened
ripping the lid off, or
ripping the phone off my trousers and falling on ground.
I have been looking for an alternative.
The ArmorCase by Boxwave also has a similar 'hard' protection over the screen.
http://www.boxwave.com/products/armorcase/armor-case-htc-touch-hd_3387.htm
I can see the advantage of having the hard protection, however I think the disadvantages outweigh the advantages.
leenk said:
the thing is about to spend a bit of time on my belt!
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In my experience, a clip that has some sort of hook' end, like this
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has less chance of accidently coming off your belt/trousers than a 'smooth' one like this
I was going to purchase one of their cases but then I saw one come up for sale second hand never used on another forum i frequent as the guy changed his mind about it.
Awesome I thought and bought it. 3 days later it turns up and I see it has a screen in there, I was completely surprised by this as I wasn't aware of it when I bought it and I like you thought there was a cutout not a hard screen there. Contacted the seller and it turns out that was the reason he was selling it, he didn't expect the screen either.
So you're not the only one, I really do think it's an idiotic design, especially having the hinge on the right hand side, with the majority of the worlds population being right handed it would make much more sense to have the hinge on the other side, I'll admit I do have big hands but I can't use the phone in the case even when it's open properly, I have to take it completely out of the case.
I'm confident it would offer good protection which is why I bought it after dropping and having a less than 2 month old touch pro smash on me, but I can't live with the awkwardness of the design so the case lives in the bottom of my drawer.
One thing I suggest you try is just pop the screen out which is what I did within 2 minutes of getting mine, makes the case a lot more practical !
Be warned though without the thickness of the screen in there the phone is free to move back and forth a few mm inside the case unless maybe you put something behind it?
Happy user of the PDair metal case. Protects my HD perfect. I like the "plastic screen protector". That and the allu material was one of the reasons that i bought the case. I dont have the problem of a "moving" HD in the case. There was a topic over the allu case so...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469598
leenk said:
Hey mallman, thnx for the warnin'. I am lookin' at that case, since my phones are in for a rough time, and was wondering whatcha think about the quality of the beltclip and if that plastic screen could be punched out fairly easy.
Other: since the thing is about to spend a bit of time on my belt, I can't help, but wonder about the closing mechanism, that is keeping the lid closed. Looks pretty flimsy - not well protected from accidental openings.
Also, does it have any effect on the radio/phone/GPS reception-functions
Thanx!
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actually i believe you could toss your phone off a building with the aluminum case. If you are not worried about usability then this is the case for you. Screen is very sturdy as is the rest of the case and it is well padded as well. I say go for it if what you are seeing is ultimate protection. It actually closes pretty tightly and wont accidentally open. Also, your phone is very snug in there so it isnt going to move around either.
the belt clip... well its just a belt clip lol. nothing special there at all. Holds pretty tight though
I read on another forum that someone applies rainx on the screen to eliminate finger prints and feels much more smooth when it toughs.
This's what he says: "thought i would post this in case it helps anybody - the smudges on the screen were driving me crazy i put rainx on the screen just now and it works great no fingerprints when you touch the screen and it also feels much more smooth"
I haven't tried it yet but I was wondering that since the rainx has an antifreeze compound, whether if it's safe to use it on the gorilla glass for the long run?
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According to their manufacture website, the key ingredient in the rainx windshield washer is Methanol or simply alcohol.
Read manufacture website here: http://www.recochem.com/files/downloads/RecoDIYWindshieldEN.pdf
Read wiki on the methanol here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanol
So it seems ok to use it on the gorilla glass if it helps to reduce the fingerprints. By the way, I apply it on my tf and it helps a lot.
I use it and have done for a while. It's fine.
wow we learn something new everyday sounds good thanks for the info it was driving me crazy as well it catches fingerprints more than the ipad but this works great.
Clever idea, I like it! Will have to give it a try myself, thanks for sharing
Hmmm interesting, never thought about doing that
gonna give this a shot tomorrow
rilot said:
I use it and have done for a while. It's fine.
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Which version --- there appears to be several.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
hehe, what do you guys do with your TFs? i use a dry microfiber cloth and it's clean. or if the fingerprints are a bit stubborn, wet microfiber cloth.
I don't need a signature.
This has been posted here before. It works well on the TF and any pad with glass screen, You should not use it on non glass screens. Rain-x and a micro cloth will do wonders.
Tried it tonight. Worked very well. Using it on my evo and tf101
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Good idea but i'm wondering if the rainx would cause any damage to the screen or even harm our body/fingers since we would be touching on the screen often, which means we're touching on the rainx chemical itself
where did you see that it had an anti freeze compound in it? I haven't seen that any where
1 squirt of windex on a paper towel works great for me.
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1 squirt of windex on a paper towel works great for me.
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I don't mean to ruffle any feathers here but the OP was talking about prevention and cutting down on the fingerprints, not cleaning them off.
Sometimes when I read forums on the net I get the distinct impression that some people just need to show off. Again no offense meant but the OP clearly meant prevention and not just wiping off fingerprints.
Not adding to the discussion about an idea is called trolling.
Thanks for the tip OP, going to try it tomorrow.
gormly said:
I don't mean to ruffle any feathers here but the OP was talking about prevention and cutting down on the fingerprints, not cleaning them off.
Sometimes when I read forums on the net I get the distinct impression that some people just need to show off. Again no offense meant but the OP clearly meant prevention and not just wiping off fingerprints.
Not adding to the discussion about an idea is called trolling.
Thanks for the tip OP, going to try it tomorrow.
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Give it a shot. Buy it at walmart or something similar tho, autozone upcharges rainx by about 3 bucks. I know, i bought mine there. LoL.
How often do you guys reapply the rain-x? just curious to see how long it lasts on there while being touched every day.
I posted this in another thread talking about the rain-x.
When I read things like this, the first thing that comes to my mind is always - "if this works so well, why would it not come like this" - because there has to be a reason. Pre-coating the glass in this way would not cost hardly anything, so there must be a reason that gorilla does not do it.
- Is there maybe some long-term reaction that happens over an extended period that could damage the screen?
- Does it cause halos in sunlight?
- Like others mentioned - is this compound safe to have on your fingers all the time, and perhaps get on your food? People aren't usually touching the outside of their car windshield all the time.
Anyway those are a few things i would think about. All in all, I'd be careful.
Read the ingredients on the bottle then decide. You should not be soaking the screen in Rain-x. two drops spread around will be sufficient. DON'T put on non-glass screens.
brunes said:
I posted this in another thread talking about the rain-x.
When I read things like this, the first thing that comes to my mind is always - "if this works so well, why would it not come like this" - because there has to be a reason. Pre-coating the glass in this way would not cost hardly anything, so there must be a reason that gorilla does not do it.
- Is there maybe some long-term reaction that happens over an extended period that could damage the screen?
- Does it cause halos in sunlight?
- Like others mentioned - is this compound safe to have on your fingers all the time, and perhaps get on your food? People aren't usually touching the outside of their car windshield all the time.
Anyway those are a few things i would think about. All in all, I'd be careful.
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I'm pretty sure apple precoats their iphones with something (not rainx). Also, you say it would cost next to nothing, but i bet buying thousands of gallons of something that isnt really needed would be a bit costly.
Rumbleweed said:
Read the ingredients on the bottle then decide. You should not be soaking the screen in Rain-x. two drops spread around will be sufficient. DON'T put on non-glass screens.
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According to their manufacture website, the key ingredient in the rainx windshield washer is Methanol or simply alcohol.
Read manufacture website here: http://www.recochem.com/files/downloads/RecoDIYWindshieldEN.pdf
Read wiki on the methanol here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanol
So it seems ok to use it on the gorilla glass if it helps.
A few people at reddit are reporting that the glass visor on the back of the 6P (on the camera hump) has spontaneously shattered on their phones. The phone was sitting on a table, not being used, and the glass suddenly just cracked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
This recalls the days when people reported similar experiences with the glass back on the Nexus 4. Some at the time speculated it had to do with heat differentials that the glass back of the Nexus 4 could not handle.
In the case of the 6P, some people in the thread say that the glass visor on the back of the phone directly abuts the surrounding metal, without the sort of plastic buffer ring that usually separates screens from a metal chassis. This means there is no protection for the glass visor from sheer forces (against the edge of the glass, rather than the face of the glass). Apparently Gorilla Glass is designed to take direct impact to the surface of the glass, at the cost of being less resistant to sheer forces. Others in the reddit thread also suggest that the metal body expanding at a different rate, due to temperature differentials, could produce the necessary sheer force to shatter the glass visor.
Anyone here experiencing problems with the glass visor shattering?
cb474 said:
A few people at reddit are reporting that the glass visor on the back of the 6P (on the camera hump) has spontaneously shattered on their phones. The phone was sitting on a table, not being used, and the glass suddenly just cracked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
This recalls the days when people reported similar experiences with the glass back on the Nexus 4. Some at the time speculated it had to do with heat differentials that the glass back of the Nexus 4 could not handle.
In the case of the 6P, some people in the thread say that the glass visor on the back of the phone directly abuts the surrounding metal, without the sort of plastic buffer ring that usually separates screens from a metal chassis. This means there is no protection for the glass visor from sheer forces (against the edge of the glass, rather than the face of the glass). Apparently Gorilla Glass is designed to take direct impact to the surface of the glass, at the cost of being less resistant to sheer forces. Others in the reddit thread also suggest that the metal body expanding at a different rate, due to temperature differentials, could produce the necessary sheer force to shatter the glass visor.
Anyone here experiencing problems with the glass visor shattering?
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Been posted already.
No issues here yet, also my Nexus 4 is still going strong without a case and no shattering either.
italia0101 said:
Been posted already.
No issues here yet, also my Nexus 4 is still going strong without a case and no shattering either.
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Oh, thanks, sorry to repost. I looked and couldn't find a thread. It will be interesting to see if this turns out to just be a few unlucky people or a more widespread issue.
[Edit: Since no one seems to be able to find the other thread or it may actually have been about something else--people dropping or bending their phones--I'm going to assume that this is in fact the only thread currently on the topic of the glass visor spontaneously cracking on it's own when the phone is not being touched or handled by the user at all.]
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Been posted already.
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Where is the original thread link? So we all discuss it there.
i say its a user error. I.E dropped, intentionally, or accidentally
enough with these posts gosh!! phone is rock solid!
Sounds like the kiddos in the other thread bending their phones being careless... just more people being careless. I have abused mine to an extent, wasn't able to bend any edges and certainly haven't broken the glass. I even dropped it hardwood already, no damage.
designgears said:
Sounds like the kiddos in the other thread bending their phones being careless... just more people being careless. I have abused mine to an extent, wasn't able to bend any edges and certainly haven't broken the glass. I even dropped it hardwood already, no damage.
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This is definitely not what happened with the people in the reddit thread. Their phones were sitting on a table, not being handled at all, and they suddenly heard cracking sounds and the glass cracked on its own. So some sort of flaw in the glass or stress from the metal body on the glass (or both) caused the cracking.
From the OP of the reddit thread (and a couple others there report similar experiences):
https://imgur.com/u2ILh24
Well that was a surprise. For me, and the cat. It was sat on a table next to me when I heard the glass snap, leaving a little snowfall of shavings on the table under it. It's now continuing to crack away to itself.
See: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
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Anyone here at XDA experience this?
cb474 said:
This is definitely not what happened with the people in the reddit thread. Their phones were sitting on a table, not being handled at all, and they suddenly heard cracking sounds and the glass cracked on its own. So some sort of flaw in the glass or stress from the metal body on the glass (or both) caused the cracking.
From the OP of the reddit thread (and a couple others there report similar experiences):
Anyone here at XDA experience this?
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Sounds like people just want to make up BS just because they weren't careful with their phone
While I am an honest person, if I weren't and managed to break the glass on my phone, I might be inclined to claim spontaneous breakage to get it warrantied. Take this crap with a grain of salt. There are a lot of folks that would do and say just about anything to avoid forking out the cash to replace their phone themselves when they busted it.
ga9213 said:
While I am an honest person, if I weren't and managed to break the glass on my phone, I might be inclined to claim spontaneous breakage to get it warrantied. Take this crap with a grain of salt. There are a lot of folks that would do and say just about anything to avoid forking out the cash to replace their phone themselves when they busted it.
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I could see this being the case. Drop straight onto the back considering visor is raised from rest of the device.
designgears said:
Sounds like the kiddos in the other thread bending their phones being careless... just more people being careless. I have abused mine to an extent, wasn't able to bend any edges and certainly haven't broken the glass. I even dropped it hardwood already, no damage.
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I fear that. The darn thing is so slippery. I ordered a intelliglass thing that I have on my N5 which works great and keeps the naked look. But I do moisturize my hands a lot these days.
bobby janow said:
I fear that. The darn thing is so slippery. I ordered a intelliglass thing that I have on my N5 which works great and keeps the naked look. But I do moisturize my hands a lot these days.
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Haha! I'll give you that one.
I think that Nexus community is these days worse than Samsung or iphone fanboys. Anything that is pointed out of the device that there is fault is always said "shut up I love my N<3xus" While this 6P is clearly having major design flaws.
And this comes from a guy who has pre-ordered this phone and can't wait to get my hands on it but I don't want to close my eyes of those stupid design flaws.
So far what is it 2 or 3 cases of back visor smashed ....how many phones sold?......user error
btort1 said:
Sounds like people just want to make up BS just because they weren't careful with their phone
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ga9213 said:
While I am an honest person, if I weren't and managed to break the glass on my phone, I might be inclined to claim spontaneous breakage to get it warrantied. Take this crap with a grain of salt. There are a lot of folks that would do and say just about anything to avoid forking out the cash to replace their phone themselves when they busted it.
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We've already been down this road with the Nexus 4. People can put their head in the sand and refuse to believe it, but it is possible for glass parts on phones to break on their own, either due to temperature differentials or flaws in the overall design of the phone body (that puts stress on glass parts in ways they were not designed to handle). If you actually bother to read through the reddit thread, you can see there are a number of people knowledgeable about materials science explaining how this can happen.
In any case, it would be a dumb way to make up a story to try to get the phone replaced under warranty, precisely because people are inclined not to believe these stories and because people lack the sophistication to understand how glass can break in this way.
So, I don't doubt this really happened. Again if you bother to read the reddit thread, you can see the people involved seem credible.
The real question is: Will this turn out to be a fluke with a couple phones or is this going to be a more widespread problem?
cb474 said:
We've already been down this road with the Nexus 4.
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I remember loads of cases of back glass broken.
I had N4 for a year and then my gf had it. She is not as careful as me. Phone been dropped few times and no problems.
So I really hope its not a problem in here
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CandyAndy said:
I think that Nexus community is these days worse than Samsung or iphone fanboys. Anything that is pointed out of the device that there is fault is always said "shut up I love my N<3xus" While this 6P is clearly having major design flaws.
And this comes from a guy who has pre-ordered this phone and can't wait to get my hands on it but I don't want to close my eyes of those stupid design flaws.
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3 or 4 glass issues over thousands of shipping
Yeah you are right... we should not act like fanboys,
it's clearly a design flaw spreading out all over the world !!
wazka2 said:
I remember loads of cases of back glass broken.
I had N4 for a year and then my gf had it. She is not as careful as me. Phone been dropped few times and no problems.
So I really hope its not a problem in here
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Yes, just as there were many broken glass backs on the iPhone 4 and looking around a little it seems to be a pretty common problem with the Galaxy S6 and Note5. I have no doubt there will be many broken glass visors on the Nexus 6P, from people droppping it. I have been pretty lucky, with my Nexus 4; dropped it a couple times over the years, even on concrete, and no broken glass back; although I never took the original plastic covering off the back in the hopes that would protect it some.
But, just to emphasize the point, since most people are totally missing the point, what is being discussed in this thread is a design flaw in which the visor shatters on its own, not due to users dropping the phone. This could be due to rapid temperature differentials or to flaws in the way the glass visor abuts the aluminum body and is put under sheer stresses, for which the glass was not designed.
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Matrix_19 said:
3 or 4 glass issues over thousands of shipping
Yeah you are right... we should not act like fanboys,
it's clearly a design flaw spreading out all over the world !!
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Not that many people have the phone yet. Many people may also not be posting about the issue online. So your "3 or 4" out of thousands are pretty much just made up numbers. Three or four have been reported. There could be more out there. And not that many people have the phone yet. Once the shipping numbers are more in the millions, then will see how common it is.
In any case, whatever happens, it does not mean that it is not a stupid design decision to use extra glass (a fragile material) where it is not necessary. Especially when so many other phones have already demonstrated why this is a bad idea. Even if the spontaneous shattering visor issue turns out to only affect very few people, the fact will remain the 6P is more vulnerable to damage when dropped than necessary. Since people carry their phones everywhere and constantly take them in and out of their pockets, it's a device that should be designed with durability in mind. You can't prevent every accident, but you can minimize the damage they cause.
I wish Google had learned their lesson from the Nexus 4. Sure, a small glass visor is better than an entirely glass back like on the Nexus 4. But it's still unnecessary. I'll bet Samsung will not put a glass back on the Galaxy S7 or Note6, realizing that it was a bad idea like everyone else who's tried it. This will leave only Google with the dubious distinction of repeating the glass on the back of the phone mistake twice. Not only can Google not learn from others mistakes, they can't even learn from their own.
Hello,
I want to open my Nexus 6P in the name of science
I´ve managed to open other devices before but this Nexus 6P somehow scares the living cr*p out of me when it comes to the visor glass :crying:
There is barely any gap between the glass and the Aluminum back and even a razor blade is barely thin enough to pass through.
I tried to heat the glass with a hairdryer and to carefully fit a razor blade between the glass and the case. I´m afraid that the thin razor blade cannot create a powerful lever and even if, this might cause the glass to burst.
Now I really wanted to open this device since I don´t care about the warranty anyway and use some nice 17W/mK thermal pads inside.
By any chance, did any of you already open this device before and is there a secret strategy maybe ?
Well even if the glass visor breaks... There is one available for cheap on eBay
The problem with the cheap glass is that a) I might have to wait for several weeks for it. If I only partially damage the glass while still maintaining the area for the camera, it would not be that bad. But what if the glass cracks this area too ? This is why I´d rather prefer to remove the visor glass in one single piece
Try: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+6P+Teardown/51660
I watched a strip down video of this phone a while back.....it did not look pretty. The glass visor on the back I believe was removed with a razor blade and if I remember correctly it did not crack. I would use a heat gun and heat the area to soften any glue before trying to pry it off.
In all honesty though, this device was not made to be stripped apart and put back together. I just don't see being able to strip the device and put it back together without leaving some sort of evidence that it had been taken apart lol.
This is the best teardown video I found. Using pieces of a soda can was a great idea and the phone looked intact around the glass and lower piece areas. Glass was in one piece as well. It's in my YT favourites in case I ever need it *knocks on wood*
PS: If you end up using this method (or any other), please let us know how it went.
Thanks for the great link, I will try again later I don't care about the warranty and I will continue to use a case anyway. It's just something some guys like to do. No risk, no fun. No brain, no pain Awesome idea with the selfmade lever out of a soda can
Seems like LG is the only company making phones that are easy to repair.
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Well, at least I had the heart to try it out I don´t have a heat gun and I guess it´s next to impossible to soften the glue without one. A regular hair dryer is too weak. I also tried to make some levers out of soda can parts but it´s useless if you cannot apply enough heat in order to soften the glue.
Maybe it´s possible if you wait for hours for the device to heat up with a hair dryer but you also damage the whole device because of the way you spread the heat.
I might try again later if I get a heat gun. This phone is really tough to open. Did anyone else already manage to open this device without some special equipment ?
@Gorgtech, I had to open my nexus 5 to replace the screen/digitizer. I purchased an $8.00 cell phone/small electronics toolkit from Walmart. It has magnetized screw drivers, plastic pry tools and a suction cup. I highly recommend it!
Thanks for the hint, I have some various tools which are OK for most repairs but only lack a heat gun. I´ve decided to get one in the end because it´s not as expensive as I thought before. However, I´m not sure if I´m still allowed to post reviews or guides on this site anymore so don´t expect too much input after
Erm, why wouldn't you be allowed?
All my reviews on this site have been closed because I mentioned the manufacturers and also posted Amazon Links. I got a Pm which warned me of creating any extra 'spammy' reviews. I'm a long term member here and I didn't intend to offend anyone. Nevertheless I'm not sure if I'm still allowed to post reviews or user guides here if I get something from any manufacturer for a honest and unbiased review.
I don't know what to say. I mean, the community needs users like you to survive and remain interesting. Oh well...