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I'm Galaxy Nexus owner. I have T-mobile and it works with HSPA+ without any problem. It is really fast.
In a blog I read that International version of SGSIII doesn't not support T-Mobile HSPA+ & 3G.
I wanted to be sure before ordering the phone.
Do you have any information about this?
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http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...-start-but-you-should-probably-wait-22229303/
So, the trade-off for early access to the much-anticipated phone is less functionality. The international model’s 3G HSPA+ should have no problems with the AT&T network – though won’t step up to LTE – but won’t work on T-Mobile USA’s 3G as it lacks support for the 1700 band.
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Are you sure that's what you read?
Another way of reading it, is that T-mobile doesn't support the 1700 band, required for LTE. But what do I know? I only know that the modem firmware certainly supports the 1700 band, but whether or not this is implemented in hardware is a different story, but it would have been stupid not to have done it. The only way to tell, is if someone can start posting some internal pictures of the PCB so we can see what radio chip sets are used within.
You will not get HSPA or even 3G speeds with the International S3 on T-Mobile. HSPA is T-Mo's 3G network and it requires 1700/2100 band, which the S3 does not have.
At best, you will get 2G (or EDGE) speeds, and those are not very fast at all. Streaming anything would be pretty painful.
Plexicle said:
You will not get HSPA or even 3G speeds with the International S3 on T-Mobile. HSPA is T-Mo's 3G network and it requires 1700/2100 band, which the S3 does not have.
At best, you will get 2G (or EDGE) speeds, and those are not very fast at all. Streaming anything would be pretty painful.
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HSPA doesn't require 1700/2100 in all cases, but it does in T-Mobile's.
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HSPA doesn't require 1700/2100 in all cases, but it does in T-Mobile's.
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Yep, that's what I said. Specifically, it's the 1700 (download) band that TMo's HSPA network is using that the S3's radio doesn't have.
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Yep, that's what I said. Specifically, it's the 1700 (download) band that TMo's HSPA network is using that the S3's radio doesn't have.
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Some people just don't understand that though..
sigh.
...and how about AT&T?
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Yep, that's what I said. Specifically, it's the 1700 (download) band that TMo's HSPA network is using that the S3's radio doesn't have.
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Got the message...
However, what about AT&T? Will I get 3G (HSPA+) on their network? As you probably know, there are SIM cards for both T-Mo and AT&T available to work with the international version of the S3.
What band does AT&T use for 3G/HSPA+ , and can the unlocked S3 use it?
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Got the message...
However, what about AT&T? Will I get 3G (HSPA+) on their network? As you probably know, there are SIM cards for both T-Mo and AT&T available to work with the international version of the S3.
What band does AT&T use for 3G/HSPA+ , and can the unlocked S3 use it?
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Yes, it will work fine. ATT HSPA+ is using 850/1900 and is completely compatible. You will get HSPA+ speeds with the Int. S3.
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Yes, it will work fine. ATT HSPA+ is using 850/1900 and is completely compatible. You will get HSPA+ speeds with the Int. S3.
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Awesome... Thanks, Plexicle!
Thanks for information guys. I was willing to buy and S3 but it looks like I won't.
I still have an amazing phone(GNEX). Go with it
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You will not get HSPA or even 3G speeds with the International S3 on T-Mobile. HSPA is T-Mo's 3G network and it requires 1700/2100 band, which the S3 does not have.
At best, you will get 2G (or EDGE) speeds, and those are not very fast at all. Streaming anything would be pretty painful.
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joshnichols189 said:
HSPA doesn't require 1700/2100 in all cases, but it does in T-Mobile's.
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androidarmin said:
Awesome... Thanks, Plexicle!
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SNaReX said:
I'm Galaxy Nexus owner. I have T-mobile and it works with HSPA+ without any problem. It is really fast.
In a blog I read that International version of SGSIII doesn't not support T-Mobile HSPA+ & 3G.
I wanted to be sure before ordering the phone.
Do you have any information about this?
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http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...-start-but-you-should-probably-wait-22229303/
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Galaxy Nexus is penta-band (it supports a bunch, including 1700), and hopefully the next nexii will be as well.
To check for compatibility in future, you just need to compare the phone's frequencies with those listed for the provider (can probably find them on wikipedia even). In this particular case, you'll have to wait for the t-mobile s3 if you want hspa+.
It is worth pointing out (and I'm surprised that no one has done so yet) that T-Mobile USA is working to have hspa+ working with the 1900 band by the fourth quarter. So if the international S3 doesn't initially get hspa+ on tmo, it will by the end of the year, possibly even by the end of summer.
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It is worth pointing out (and I'm surprised that no one has done so yet) that T-Mobile USA is working to have hspa+ working with the 1900 band by the fourth quarter. So if the international S3 doesn't initially get hspa+ on tmo, it will by the end of the year, possibly even by the end of summer.
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I know they are doing this, but I doubt it will be done anytime soon especially since they want LTE out next year. So far this has only happened in small sections of Colorado and California. I hope they will finish soon but it just doesn't seem likely.
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joshnichols189 said:
I know they are doing this, but I doubt it will be done anytime soon especially since they want LTE out next year. So far this has only happened in small sections of Colorado and California. I hope they will finish soon but it just doesn't seem likely.
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Agreed, you shouldn't make phone decisions on the basis of something that might happen eventually; who knows when they'll even get to your geographical location.
The baseband chip set is the same in Galaxy Nexus and i9300, so I see no other reason for not providing T-mobile compatibility apart from either not having had time to build the baseband firmware to conform to T-mobile networks or simply that T-mobile is doing something "wrong"! (Yeah, they tend to complicate things by reinventing the wheel, and Samsung are probably getting tired of having to provide them with separate models and modifications all the damn time, just because of it.)
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I know they are doing this, but I doubt it will be done anytime soon especially since they want LTE out next year. So far this has only happened in small sections of Colorado and California. I hope they will finish soon but it just doesn't seem likely.
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You're wrong.the reason they're doing this is because of Lte. They want to use the 1700 band for lte and the 1900 for hspa since they don't have many people using the 1900 bands for gsm. So it'll happen really soon.
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mike2518 said:
You're wrong.the reason they're doing this is because of Lte. They want to use the 1700 band for lte and the 1900 for hspa since they don't have many people using the 1900 bands for gsm. So it'll happen really soon.
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I guess that depends on your definition of "really soon," but last I heard, TMo wasn't beginning the LTE transition until "early 2013".
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I guess that depends on your definition of "really soon," but last I heard, TMo wasn't beginning the LTE transition until "early 2013".
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But first they need to clear out the hspa 1700 spectrum for lte, and that's planned for later this year.
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But first they need to clear out the hspa 1700 spectrum for lte, and that's planned for later this year.
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Clearing out 1700 for LTE doesn't mean 1900 will be refarmed at the same time. They have been "refarming" for quite a while and still only have small areas to show for it.
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The baseband chip set is the same in Galaxy Nexus and i9300, so I see no other reason for not providing T-mobile compatibility apart from either not having had time to build the baseband firmware to conform to T-mobile networks or simply that T-mobile is doing something "wrong"! (Yeah, they tend to complicate things by reinventing the wheel, and Samsung are probably getting tired of having to provide them with separate models and modifications all the damn time, just because of it.)
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It has nothing to do with T-Mobile. If pentaband phones can exist it isn't that big of a deal to include the band. It is a European phone and they don't use the 1700mhz/2100mhz combo band that T-Mobile uses.
T-Mobile also isn't the only carrier in North America to do this, so it's not like they're the only one.
galaxy s3 has HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 , no 1700. so it doesn't work with t-mobile 3g right now.
without 4G, this is a very important feature for me and I can't seem to find the answer. Thanks!
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without 4G, this is a very important feature for me and I can't seem to find the answer. Thanks!
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Are you asking if you can use 3G for web while you are on a phone call?? No. Not with Sprint or Verizon.
The only 3G networks that are able to do both are AT&T and T-Mobile.
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www.androidpolice.com/2012/05/24/sp...supports-simultaneous-voice-and-data-over-3g/
is this article misleading? I don't have any of the phones listed so I would love for someone to chime in.
apparently verizon's HTC Rezound can do it, so can the Sprint LG Viper..
edit: confirmed on the 4g lte: www.pocketables.com/2012/05/yes-sim...-and-3g-data-works-on-the-htc-evo-4g-lte.html but still unsure about the s3
You can. I have the GS3 and it was a nice find to be able to do that
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Gio2178 said:
You can. I have the GS3 and it was a nice find to be able to do that
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You can on 4G. Not on 3G - which was what the OP wanted to know.
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No1ustad said:
without 4G, this is a very important feature for me and I can't seem to find the answer. Thanks!
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Actually, you CAN on 3g. I have no problem being in the car on the phone, and loading up facebook.... The EVO 4G LTE was the first to support SVDO, and the SGIII also supports this feature...very handy indeed!
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Actually, you CAN on 3g. I have no problem being in the car on the phone, and loading up facebook.... The EVO 4G LTE was the first to support SVDO, and the SGIII also supports this feature...very handy indeed!
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This information is from Android Central's Review of the Sprint Version of the Galaxy SIII:
Burning question: Does the SGSIII have a SVDO radio like the EVO 4G LTE does... meaning, can it do simultaneous voice and data over 3G like the HTC EVO 4G LTE and the LG Viper can?
Submitted by kindaskimpy on June 20, 2012 - 00:26.
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Yes, it does. And it's just as slow.
Submitted by Phil Nickinson on June 20, 2012 - 00:43.
Link to the article can be found here:
http://m.androidcentral.com/sprint-galaxy-s-iii-review
Just in case folks think I just "made it up" lmao....
Riggy
EVDO 3G can do this under certain circumstances. The Verizon HTC phones that can do this use eHRPD as well for 3G so you can be on one and use the other to talk and surf.
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Hello Im from Argentine.
I want to buy this phone, but what I read does not support 4G Argentine (Band 4 or 28)
need to have the band 4 (1700/2100)
thanks for the support
I read somewhere there are 3 versions and one of them supports band 4.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig..._6&btsid=d7bfdf1b-2978-4ad7-a543-7b49bce90205
I ordered mine from here a few days ago and seller says it supports band 4.
Worst case there is a guide on xda to unlock all bands.
Apparently it does. Great news.
http://en.miui.com/thread-234625-1-1.html
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Apparently it does. Great news.
http://en.miui.com/thread-234625-1-1.html
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so, only changing from the APN settings, will work the band 4 ?
excuse my ignorance
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so, only changing from the APN settings, will work the band 4 ?
excuse my ignorance
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Apparently so for T-Mobile USA. Of course it should be set to 4G preferred also. I haven't tried it but click the link and try it yourself. I guess you need the 4G APN settings for your carrier of course.
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Apparently so for T-Mobile USA. Of course it should be set to 4G preferred also. I haven't tried it but click the link and try it yourself. I guess you need the 4G APN settings for your carrier of course.
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any idea on how to do the same for at&t? i know the snapdragon supports lte but maybe the firmware doesn't?
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any idea on how to do the same for at&t? i know the snapdragon supports lte but maybe the firmware doesn't?
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I can only suggest you click on the link and sign up with your questions. I'm on T-Mobile so it's good news for me................. If it's true.
i want to buy a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 in the us will it work with straight talk with a AT&T sim will i get lte
Vernw4 said:
i want to buy a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 in the us will it work with straight talk with a AT&T sim will i get lte
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@Eduardo379 ^^^
It won't be a good idea. Coz US LTE bands are different than what are used in india. And this phone is specifically for indian LTE bands.
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I'm using a Redmi Note 4X/global in the US on T-Mobile and get LTE just fine.
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Ulver said:
I'm using a Redmi Note 4X/global in the US on T-Mobile and get LTE just fine.
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could you give me a link to the note 4x global i wanna make sure i get the right one
gearbest store describe bands/versions, Global version is one of the most bands featured phones I know
Don't get the Chinese version. I got one and I cannot have LTE on T-Mobile
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could you give me a link to the note 4x global i wanna make sure i get the right one
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There is no 4X global. it might work for Verizon or sprint but those carriers will not let you use it. It will not work on t-mobile. Not sure about AT&T. Get the Global Version of the Redmi Note 4.
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Im on Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Global Version in USA. Only thing i havent got to work is VOLTE. Im on T-mobile. Anyone else on t-mobile got VOLTE working? Actually Im on Metro PCS
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There is no 4X global. it might work for Verizon or sprint but those carriers will not let you use it. It will not work on t-mobile. Not sure about AT&T. Get the Global Version of the Redmi Note 4.
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Im on Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Global Version in USA. Only thing i havent got to work is VOLTE. Im on T-mobile. Anyone else on t-mobile got VOLTE working? Actually Im on Metro PCS
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i ended up getting one and its working
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There is no 4X global. it might work for Verizon or sprint but those carriers will not let you use it. It will not work on t-mobile. Not sure about AT&T. Get the Global Version of the Redmi Note 4.
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Im on Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Global Version in USA. Only thing i havent got to work is VOLTE. Im on T-mobile. Anyone else on t-mobile got VOLTE working? Actually Im on Metro PCS
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I never got volte to work on T-Mobile.
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I know it won't be officially released in the US but will the be a version that supports TMo USA LTE bands like 71?
Edit. Ok so it looks like it will be released by T-Mobile in the US so no longer a problem
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...laren-is-its-second-5g-phone-coming-soon/?amp
T-Mobile is getting the 7t
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T-Mobile is getting the 7t
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But the US is not getting the 7T Pro. Looked at the OnePlus site and 71 isn't listed BUT it could just need enabled, I'll wait and see.
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But the US is not getting the 7T Pro. Looked at the OnePlus site and 71 isn't listed BUT it could just need to be enabled, I'll wait and see.
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Hi, I purchased a non carrier International Unlocked Oneplus 7T Pro HD1910 phone. Will it function as a T-Mobile phone by inserting SIM card as T-Mobile or do I have to flash any firmware to get the T-Mobile features I'm not talking about activation but features. Are the members of this thread using their phones in the US or just international? Thank you.
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Hi, I purchased a non carrier International Unlocked Oneplus 7T Pro HD1910 phone. Will it function as a T-Mobile phone by inserting SIM card as T-Mobile or do I have to flash any firmware to get the T-Mobile features I'm not talking about activation but features. Are the members of this thread using their phones in the US or just international? Thank you.
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Why would inserting a Sim card change the software/software? If you've bought it international, it comes with international firmware.
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Tmobile will get the 7tpro in December
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Going to check it out once T-Mobile usa get it... heard around Dec. 9th
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Hi, I purchased a non carrier International Unlocked Oneplus 7T Pro HD1910 phone. Will it function as a T-Mobile phone by inserting SIM card as T-Mobile or do I have to flash any firmware to get the T-Mobile features I'm not talking about activation but features. Are the members of this thread using their phones in the US or just international? Thank you.
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From what I've seen, and experienced on other phone, there is very good chance you will never get LTE speeds. Definitely not band 71.
I'm waiting for the T-Mobile version.
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From what I've seen, and experienced on other phone, there is very good chance you will never get LTE speeds. Definitely not band 71.
I'm waiting for the T-Mobile version.
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Wow that's going to suck I guess I'm going to have to return it. The phone's going to be delivered to me this Wednesday. So the bands are a hardware issue not software correct? I thought by buying an international version would be better for rooting. Oh well back it will go. Thanks for the info.
I have got LTE speeds and band 71 on previous Oneplus unlocked phones, so I dont know what the previous poster is talking about. My advice would be pop your sim in and see for yourself before you draw any conclusions.
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I have got LTE speeds and band 71 on previous Oneplus unlocked phones, so I dont know what the previous poster is talking about. My advice would be pop your sim in and see for yourself before you draw any conclusions.
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That gives me hope, but are your phones international unlocked? I would really want it to work. Guess we'll find out. Thank you.
So maybe that will be the difference since at the moment the pro 7t is only sold over seas. Idk. I'd still wait to test before jumping to conclusions about LTE connectivity and speed and such.
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I have got LTE speeds and band 71 on previous Oneplus unlocked phones, so I dont know what the previous poster is talking about. My advice would be pop your sim in and see for yourself before you draw any conclusions.
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International or US?
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International or US?
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Bought direct from Oneplus unlocked
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slapman said:
Hi, I purchased a non carrier International Unlocked Oneplus 7T Pro HD1910 phone. Will it function as a T-Mobile phone by inserting SIM card as T-Mobile or do I have to flash any firmware to get the T-Mobile features I'm not talking about activation but features. Are the members of this thread using their phones in the US or just international? Thank you.
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If you get a T-Mobile SIM card and have them activate it, either via phone or in-store, the phone should act as their's. My phone (HD1910) does.
There will be an exclusive T-Mobile "OnePlus 7T Pro 5G" released soon.
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If you get a T-Mobile SIM card and have them activate it, either via phone or in-store, the phone should act as their's. My phone (HD1910) does.
There will be an exclusive T-Mobile "OnePlus 7T Pro 5G" released soon.
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Hi, thanks when I received the phone I just inserted sim card from Samsung Note 8 into the phone and it worked. Didn't have to call to activate which was pretty easy. Thanks again for the info.
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If you get a T-Mobile SIM card and have them activate it, either via phone or in-store, the phone should act as their's. My phone (HD1910) does.
There will be an exclusive T-Mobile "OnePlus 7T Pro 5G" released soon.
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Hi, thanks when I received the phone I just inserted sim card from Samsung Note 8 into the phone and it worked. Didn't have to call to activate which was pretty easy. Thanks again for the info.
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I did the same when I originally bought a OnePlus 7 Pro -- I took the SIM out of my LG V10 to get it working. I was just covering the bases when I had T-Mobile send me a new SIM card after returning the OnePlus 7 Pro and before getting the OnePlus 7T Pro (keep in mind that SIM cards get updated/upgraded and I wanted the latest).
What kind of speed are you getting on Tmobile without band 71?