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Turn on everything( GPS, 4G radio and such) download a new rom and play music through the speaker
I'm hoping to overheat the phone enough to evaporate all the water haha
Well I'll see how it goes and ill report back soon
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Stick a cut off qtip in the headphone jack (so rice doesn't get jammed in there) and throw it in a plastic sandwich bag filled up with rice, will work much better. Heat + water + electronic will just fog up the screen. Leave it in a bag of rice for a few days, battery out.
Seriously. I had water dripping from my MP3 player, and it's been working for a good year after that, because of rice.
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Stick a cut off qtip in the headphone jack (so rice doesn't get jammed in there) and throw it in a plastic sandwich bag filled up with rice, will work much better. Heat + water + electronic will just fog up the screen. Leave it in a bag of rice for a few days, battery out.
Seriously. I had water dripping from my MP3 player, and it's been working for a good year after that, because of rice.
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That^
It worked for my key fob that got lost in the snow for 3 months.
BlaydeX15 said:
Stick a cut off qtip in the headphone jack (so rice doesn't get jammed in there) and throw it in a plastic sandwich bag filled up with rice, will work much better. Heat + water + electronic will just fog up the screen. Leave it in a bag of rice for a few days, battery out.
Seriously. I had water dripping from my MP3 player, and it's been working for a good year after that, because of rice.
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I've done that before but it wasn't exciting haha I thought I'd try this for some laughs but its actually working my cameras lenses that were foggy and aren't now and I keep catching some moisture in the housing
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Ahhhhhhh! No no no!
Take the battery out quick quick quick! If you have water damage the first thing you do is remove power to the device! Water isn't what damages an electronic device. In fact water itself in its purest form H2O isn't even an electrical conductor. Water conducts electricity when something is dissolved in it and the ions dissociate, allowing charge to be carried through the water. Therefore if there is a salt, or something, or in this case dust, it will be able to conduct electricity, which if two points of contact in the device are shorted it can be powerful enough to destroy it.
The rice thing can sometimes work, but if the device had a lot of water get inside it there will be water in all the nook and crannies, even inside the processor. If the physical damage is already done to one or many pieces of the electronics there may not be any fixing it.
However, there is always a possibility that the ionized water is shorting circuits and hasn't damaged anything yet. If the device is to the point where it will no longer turn on, or screen appears dead you have nothing to lose in trying to fix it. I have saved several devices in the scenario I just mentioned using a mild solvent. You need to find a tear down guide to disassemble it. When you have it taken apart you can soak each individual part in isopropyl alcohol. You need to use the purest isopropyl alcohol you can find, ideally 100% isopropyl alcohol so it doesn't contain ANY water. However if you can't find a place to get that quickly, locally, for low cost use 91% isopropyl alcohol from Walmart or any drug store. I have used that concentration to successfully cure two devices that wouldn't turn on after water damage.
Put the alcohol in a large enough container that the parts fit in, and completely submerge the parts, may even need to include the battery in the solution. Leave it there about ten minutes, occasionally swirling to get the alcohol deep inside everything, processor, etc. Then remove it from the alcohol and let it AIR dry. To be ultra safe let it air dry for twenty four hours. You can then reassemble the device and test.
Alcohol is very volatile in air, so it evaporates very quickly (specially if that air is heated). Water and alcohol are miscible, so it will remove the water from inside every part. Good luck!
Just take your phone back to sprint and get another....Im going to assume you have insurance. Why take a chance that the phone could sustain some long term damage? Get a shiny brand new one and call it a day..
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Just take your phone back to sprint and get another....Im going to assume you have insurance. Why take a chance that the phone could sustain some long term damage? Get a shiny brand new one and call it a day..
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I would agree with that but he/she might not have $100 to drop around for a new insurance replacement phone. I have heard though of some repair centers replacing water damaged phones with a sprint ordered replacement as long as the phone works.
Sad Panda is 100% correct on the alcohol, so follow his directions! Alcohol has a high affinity for water and acts as a drying agent, drawing the water out of every corner and crevice.
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Sad Panda is 100% correct on the alcohol, so follow his directions! Alcohol has a high affinity for water and acts as a drying agent, drawing the water out of every corner and crevice.
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The only sensible thing to do would be to do what sad panda posted. What you're doing is just retarded.
I agree. I've been doing this for years on laptops. It also works well off you spill coke or tea on it. It also helps to brush off the components with a toothbrush while soaking them in alcohol.
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Bag of rice will work 99.9% of the time. Depends on how much water it got will depend on how long u need to leave it in there. If it still turns on overnight should work. Take battery off and seal it up.
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Hate to say it but it actually worked... No fog on the lenses, no foggy screen, capacitive buttons all work and respond, speakers sound just like they did before, I know it might just be dumb luck but it worked out and there's no visible signs of condensation I'm the phone so I'm a happy camper
I've done all the alcohol disassembling before but I only had a T6 instead of a T5 torx and I'm a broke college student so I didn't have rice so I tried my way and it worked! so continue with the bashing if you will
(Btw I have TEP but trying something new felt like a better thing to do than waste $100 on a 1.5 hboot replacement)
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I'm a broke college student so I didn't have rice so I tried my way and it worked!
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Dude, a bag of rice is like four dollars.
But your idea is possibly the worst thing you could do for a phone. ONLY reason it worked is because evidently the water didn't seep in enough to cause enough damage.
Running power through a wet phone is the easiest way to kill it. Don't count on it working again for you in the future, you're lucky as hell.
Wow! So happy for you that it worked, don't try it again though! Even for a broke college student a liter of alcohol is two bucks. There are lots of nice guys on here. Even I would have sent you my torx drivers for free to help you out!
Glad everything is a ok! Good job! Phew!
This is hilarious.
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If you have nothing to lose put the phone in bleach. it will bleach the water strip thing back white and leave the red lines. Let it dry then take it to sprint.
but only use this as a last resort. lol
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If you have nothing to lose put the phone in bleach. it will bleach the water strip thing back white and leave the red lines. Let it dry then take it to sprint.
but only use this as a last resort. lol
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To my knowledge this won't get the sticker back to white and still maintain the original red lines. Those stickers work just like litmus paper works, they react over the neutral range of the pH scale. Bleach should react with the red chromophores but I just don't see how it will turn from solid red to anything but solid white, or worse a solid pink.
Have you personally tried that? Also bleach is chlorine + water + uhhh, hypochlorite at equilibrium. Since that is the case, the dissociation of ions have the same property as water and salt, or water and dust as I described before, so as long as one understood you are making the water damage worse, you could do that....your electronic device would likely burn up when electricity was applied again.
Just throw it in the microwave. I'd set the microwave to "defrost" though, just to play it safe.
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Just throw it in the microwave. I'd set the microwave to "defrost" though, just to play it safe.
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Well i recieved my z2 yesterday and immediately and possibly stupidly wanted to test the waterproof aspect of it, i dunked it in a bowl of cold water for no more than 30 seconds however i more have moisture in my camera lens. I've let it try and dry out even left it in rice all last night with the flaps open and the moisture is still there, thing is the flaps were sealed properly so i have no idea why this has happened. Just hoping i haven't knacked the phone on the first day if having it, any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
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Well i recieved my z2 yesterday and immediately and possibly stupidly wanted to test the waterproof aspect of it, i dunked it in a bowl of cold water for no more than 30 seconds however i more have moisture in my camera lens. I've let it try and dry out even left it in rice all last night with the flaps open and the moisture is still there, thing is the flaps were sealed properly so i have no idea why this has happened. Just hoping i haven't knacked the phone on the first day if having it, any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
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Exactly same thing happened to me, except my phone is now dead too. Going back to the vendor with it today. Hopefully they'll be cool about it, but I'm expecting an argument although this should be covered by DOA rules in the first seven days.
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Exactly same thing happened to me, except my phone is now dead too. Going back to the vendor with it today. Hopefully they'll be cool about it, but I'm expecting an argument although this should be covered by DOA rules in the first seven days.
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Im tempted to take mine to a shop and see what they say good i love the phone but atm the camera is no use :/ should they take it back?
chucklz_smiley said:
Im tempted to take mine to a shop and see what they say good i love the phone but atm the camera is no use :/ should they take it back?
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Bought mine from a local online vendor that also has brick-and-mortar shops and wanted to check their info online first. They say water exposure voids the warranty of all their products, but refer to the manufacturer's warranty info. But I have no such info in my box, but instructions say that if water is found inside the casing it voids the warranty. Therein lies the rub - if your waterproofing doesn't work, you're gonna get water inside the thing.
Anyway, waiting to hear back from Sony. Another potential issue I have is that under my Imei info on their support site my warranty went out in July 2013 - before the phone was even made or launched. Hoping Sony will be reasonable with this. I decided not to involve the vendor, but I might have to try.
"cold water" - Explains it all.
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"cold water" - Explains it all.
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How does that explain anything?????? would it be better in boiling water???? If you can find me something from sony that says the waterproofing only works in water within a certain temparature range, then i will accept that cold water explains it all....... as it is the temp of the water explains sod all!!!!!!
On a lighter note, im kinda glad my mates been away all week so haven't been able to dunk it in his fishtank....... not sure that i want to now lol
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How does that explain anything?????? would it be better in boiling water???? If you can find me something from sony that says the waterproofing only works in water within a certain temparature range, then i will accept that cold water explains it all....... as it is the temp of the water explains sod all!!!!!!
On a lighter note, im kinda glad my mates been away all week so haven't been able to dunk it in his fishtank....... not sure that i want to now lol
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporation
Tested under Fresh water :
http://www.static.xperiablog.net/wp...hy_waterproof_a_smartphone_printres-01-01.jpg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporation
Tested under Fresh water :
http://www.static.xperiablog.net/wp...hy_waterproof_a_smartphone_printres-01-01.jpg
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What are you on about???
Water can be fresh and cold.
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What are you on about???
Water can be fresh and cold.
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1st, evaporation can cause cold/hot water to enter through the glass, as we know it forms droplets on the glass.
Well, explain that to Sony not me.
I think some Rice, or placing it in a warm area should fix it.
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1st, evaporation can cause cold/hot water to enter through the glass, as we know it forms droplets on the glass.
Well, explain that to Sony not me.
I think some Rice, or placing it in a warm area should fix it.
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You're not making much sense I'm afraid.
KyleSforza said:
1st, evaporation can cause cold/hot water to enter through the glass, as we know it forms droplets on the glass.
Well, explain that to Sony not me.
I think some Rice, or placing it in a warm area should fix it.
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Ehm I'm not a good at science, but when you get water outside of your glass of cold water is because of the moist in the air is cooled down from gas to liquid form.
Sorry for bad explaining, I am not good with the english terminology.
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Ehm I'm not a good at science, but when you get water outside of your glass of cold water is because of the moist in the air is cooled down from gas to liquid form.
Sorry for bad explaining, I am not good with the english terminology.
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You are correct. Water droplets formed outside of a chilled glass is caused by condensation which is when gas is changed to liquid. Condensation formed on lens is usually caused by a drastic change in temperature long enough to cause condensation.
On topic, when dealing with camera lens for DSLRs, you want to allow your gear to adjust to the temperature when going from a really cold environment to a warm environment or vice versa. One way I know if allowing your gear to adjust is to place them in pouches or bags and bring it into the other environment to let it adjust then take them out.
In this case, the phone going from a warm environment (the room) to a cold environment (the water) may have caused condensation to build up. I've gotten condensation build up before in my old iphone 3gs. I THINK I got rid of it by using a blow dryer to blow on the lens and I just let the phone sit for awhile. Eventually the condensation went away.
I filmed the water test of my phone - when it failed miserably with bubbles rushing out of the bottom of the screen as water rushed in - after some hassles with Sony's repair request system, I finally got the local Sony reps to call the repair shop and send a shipping label. Sent in the phone with a note referring to the video and had a replacement phone before the end of the week. At the end of the day, I'm very pleased with Sony's handling of the matter.
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I filmed the water test of my phone - when it failed miserably with bubbles rushing out of the bottom of the screen as water rushed in - after some hassles with Sony's repair request system, I finally got the local Sony reps to call the repair shop and send a shipping label. Sent in the phone with a note referring to the video and had a replacement phone before the end of the week. At the end of the day, I'm very pleased with Sony's handling of the matter.
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Update to my case, unfortunately the replacement unit suddenly has moisture in the lens after a visit to the pool. This track record is getting me down now. Two phones rated at IP58 and both get water on the inside.
My friend just returned from a vacation to Greece where he took his Z1. He wanted to shoot videos in the pool at the hotel. This is the result:
Unfortunately he got moisture inside the camera and flash.
Fortunately he was able to blow warm air inside with a hair dryer and get rid of the moisture.
Unfortunately his screen started to malfunction 2 days later (he doesn't know if it's related to moisture or not)
Fortunately he still has warranty
Unfortunately the warranty is not with Sony but with a mobile carrier
raducanmihai said:
My friend just returned from a vacation to Greece where he took his Z1. He wanted to shoot videos in the pool at the hotel. This is the result:
Unfortunately he got moisture inside the camera and flash.
Fortunately he was able to blow warm air inside with a hair dryer and get rid of the moisture.
Unfortunately his screen started to malfunction 2 days later (he doesn't know if it's related to moisture or not)
Fortunately he still has warranty
Unfortunately the warranty is not with Sony but with a mobile carrier
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don't use hair dryer or what ever , it will burn out circuit. Switch off the device and take a little tupperware play dry rice ( uncook in it ) , open up your flaps ( remove memory card/ sim ) and dig a hold in the rice then play the device in then cover rice over it then cover it and place it in some dry warm place for 24 - 48 hours it should go away try it and let me now this happens for my z1 and idid this
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don't use hair dryer or what ever , it will burn out circuit. Switch off the device and take a little tupperware play dry rice ( uncook in it ) , open up your flaps ( remove memory card/ sim ) and dig a hold in the rice then play the device in then cover rice over it then cover it and place it in some dry warm place for 24 - 48 hours it should go away try it and let me now this happens for my z1 and idid this
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Agree with this method of getting rid of moisture in the camera. Only problem is that a phone that is supposed to be IP58 shouldn't get water in it so you have to dry it out every time it gets wet. I'm going to try and return my phone again and get another replacement.
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Agree with this method of getting rid of moisture in the camera. Only problem is that a phone that is supposed to be IP58 shouldn't get water in it so you have to dry it out every time it gets wet. I'm going to try and return my phone again and get another replacement.
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of course my friend this is defective device and do keep pictures of the defects as a proof and return it
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don't use hair dryer or what ever , it will burn out circuit. Switch off the device and take a little tupperware play dry rice ( uncook in it ) , open up your flaps ( remove memory card/ sim ) and dig a hold in the rice then play the device in then cover rice over it then cover it and place it in some dry warm place for 24 - 48 hours it should go away try it and let me now this happens for my z1 and idid this
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As I said, it's my friend's phone (Z1), not mine. I have a Z2. He took it to warranty and he didn't mention anything about moisture in the camera or hair dryer.
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of course my friend this is defective device and do keep pictures of the defects as a proof and return it
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I agree with your assessment as the device being defective. I know that the hatches were closed and that coupled with the IP58 leads to the conclusion that it's defective if water got in some how. But here's the rub - although the onus should be on the vendor to bear the burden of proof, manufacturers of these devices have covered their backsides by not adjusting their warranty terms to allow coverage of water damage even though they market the devices as waterproof and water resistant. How can they do that? Well they design in an "out" for themselves by putting hatches on the things. Suddenly, they shift the burden of proof to us consumers.
My first device sucked in water like a sponge. Proving this on film was an easy match as you could see bubbles pouring out of it as water poured in.
My second device showed no problems in the same test over about 5 mins in a pitcher of water. Then after a day at the waterpark, the lens fogged over. I dried it our in rice and redid the water pitcher test - nothing. I even left it in the water for a good 15 hours and it kept working and showed no fog on the lens. Then, hours later as I began using it again and a temperature differential arose between the air in the phone and the temp outside, it fogged over, proving that a drop or two of water got in some how.
So now I'm in a bind. The phone keeps working through all the tests I put it through and water invasion is so slight that it only shows up in use after taking it out of water and comes and goes. Still, as soon as I take it to the pool or lake, I won't be able to rely on the camera working right. Catch-22.
Hi, yesterday night I used my phone underwater to test it out. Both my flaps were sealed and nothing else on the phone was wrong. After I removed the phone from water the speakers were a bit dull and the headphone jack wasn't working. I thought it just needed to dry so I went to bed.
This morning both the speakers and the headphone jack work fine, but when I went to take a picture, I realised it was very foggy. I tuned it around to check and there is a circle of condensation under the glass covering the camera. What do I do? Does that mean wate has gotten in? And will this condensation disappear or not?
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Hi, yesterday night I used my phone underwater to test it out. Both my flaps were sealed and nothing else on the phone was wrong. After I removed the phone from water the speakers were a bit dull and the headphone jack wasn't working. I thought it just needed to dry so I went to bed.
This morning both the speakers and the headphone jack work fine, but when I went to take a picture, I realised it was very foggy. I tuned it around to check and there is a circle of condensation under the glass covering the camera. What do I do? Does that mean wate has gotten in? And will this condensation disappear or not?
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This sounds like a device fault
The Z2 is ip68 Certified (68= resistance against submersion blah total water resistance 1.5M for 1.5Hrs)
If you still have a warenty, have your device replaced. It seems water may have leaked in elsewhere.
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This sounds like a device fault
The Z2 is ip68 Certified (68= resistance against submersion blah total water resistance 1.5M for 1.5Hrs)
If you still have a warenty, have your device replaced. It seems water may have leaked in elsewhere.
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Water damage isn't covered under warranty, might be an insurance jobby.
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Water damage isn't covered under warranty, might be an insurance jobby.
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Well then, silly warranty for a waterproof phone
Then again I'm not surprised $800 for the damnable thing
Try getting a replacement
The problem with water damage and warranty is that there is no way to prove that you didn't leave the flaps open.
When the phone cools down, the camera clears up. But when it gets used for a few minutes, the cloudiness comes back. I'm within my 14 day replacement policy for O2, so I'm going to try and get a replacement.
Well physically I would say the internal stuff heats up and the glas of the camera is staying colder so the water condensates there.
I would try to return it.
Try heating up the camera (4K) with all flaps open. This should allow any moisture to get out.
1.Try to go to Sony service center for help. If they refuse to free repair or replace, then you can try to dry it by yourself.
2.You can try to put it into rice. The rice can dry your phone if there is slight water in it.
But it hard to know how much water remain.
3.Do not use your phone before you dry the phone. If the water had leaked into inner and you forced to run the phone, the motherboard will be damaged.
4. Teardown of your phone is the best way to dry the phone and save the motherboard if the water had leaked into inner.
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1.Try to go to Sony service center for help. If they refuse to free repair or replace, then you can try to dry it by yourself.
2.You can try to put it into rice. The rice can dry your phone if there is slight water in it.
But it hard to know how much water remain.
3.Do not use your phone before you dry the phone. If the water had leaked into inner and you forced to run the phone, the motherboard will be damaged.
4. Teardown of your phone is the best way to dry the phone and save the motherboard if the water had leaked into inner.
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in regards to number 2 and 4...
2) this is a complete waste of time, unless your phone is dissassembled, rice is obviously very absorbent, but it needs to come into contact with something to absorb,
4) I would normally reccomend this, but as its manufactured as waterproof, if you open it up obviously the (very vague) warranty is lost, on top of that no matter how well you put it back together, you wont know if its still water resistant or not....... well not until its too late anyway
How waterproof is this phone? Can I take it to the pool without worry? What about the beach?
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How waterproof is this phone? Can I take it to the pool without worry? What about the beach?
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It's IP58 so let's examine that rating real quick. The 5 is the rating for the dust and the 8 is the rating for water. Dust rating goes up to 6 and water goes up to 8 (technically 9k but let's not go there). With a rating of 5, this phone is DUST PROOF. According to the ingress rating's description "Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact (dust proof)" So that means that dust entering is not entirely prevented but dust will NOT affect the operation of the phone.
The 8 rating for water means that the phone is water resistant beyond 1m or as specified by the manufacturer. According to the ingress rating, "The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. It can also mean that water can enter, but only in non-harmful ways." That means that the phone can be submerged beyond 1m and still be operational. Water may still be able to enter but only in non-harmful amounts. So Sony suggested that it can be submerged for up to 1.5m and up to 30 minutes at a time.
Summary: It's pretty damn waterproof, just follow the suggestion of no more than 1.5m and no longer than 30 minutes at a time. Also, some users are reporting condensation behind the camera lens so keep in mind the temperature of the environment, the phone, and the water. All in all, it's best if you don't go swimming with the phone and think of the waterproofing as a sort of safe-guard in case the unexpected happen.
EDIT: Also, avoid salt water since you mentioned the beach. Salt water is a BIG NO-NO!
There's a thread where someone dropped it in the themes and it was still working when he called it 3 hours later, I say that it is waterproof enough even in Salt water, I'd have no issue jumping in the sea with it in my pocket tbh, afaic Sony would be obliged to replace it if it broke in any form of water
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There's a thread where someone dropped it in the themes and it was still working when he called it 3 hours later, I say that it is waterproof enough even in Salt water, I'd have no issue jumping in the sea with it in my pocket tbh, afaic Sony would be obliged to replace it if it broke in any form of water
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Pretty sure Sony won't do anything for water damage? Or am I wrong here?
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Ive seen 2 hours in a bowl of water, around 50 mins in fresh running water
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Pretty sure Sony won't do anything for water damage? Or am I wrong here?
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It's advertised and sold as a waterproof device, how could they not replace it? I'd fight them all the way if they refused in all honesty as for it to suffer water damage (with the flaps closed of course) is a hardware failure afaic
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It's advertised and sold as a waterproof device, how could they not replace it? I'd fight them all the way if they refused in all honesty as for it to suffer water damage (with the flaps closed of course) is a hardware failure afaic
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Because it says so in the warranty manual that comes with the phone?
I'm confident that a court would say otherwise, it's certified as waterproof and it's one of its selling points . I've had things replaced plenty of times due to them not standing up to their own selling points
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I'm confident that a court would say otherwise, it's certified as waterproof and it's one of its selling points . I've had things replaced plenty of times due to them not standing up to their own selling points
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You'd need to prove them that your flaps weren't open and that you haven;t used the phone in water for too long. This might be hard to prove.
Would be just as hard for them also which is why as a consumer we would most likely win
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Would be just as hard for them also which is why as a consumer we would most likely win
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Depends on the court
Good luck in an Indian court. I'd rather buy a new phone
EDIT: It just occured to me that you might not necessarily be Indian so I'm sorry if this doesn't apply to you.
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I'm in the UK, our courts aren't as bad lol, most of the time anyway
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I'm confident that a court would say otherwise, it's certified as waterproof and it's one of its selling points . I've had things replaced plenty of times due to them not standing up to their own selling points
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Well, it's certified as waterproof in water conditions "specified by the manufacturer." The ingress rating and Sony's warning is everywhere. If your phone gets damaged because you went beyond 1.5m or you had it under water for over 30 minutes then Sony could easily win this case.
Like I said in my post, it's best if this waterproofing is kept as a safe-guard.
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Pretty sure Sony won't do anything for water damage? Or am I wrong here?
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Yeah the warranty is still void I believe if water damage is detected. There is very little the user could do to prove they followed the rules (such as leaving a flap open) and this gives Sony a lot of wiggle room to refuse to replace the device. That's why I haven't submerged mine yet, still too nervous.
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Under salt water
I tried mine in salt water around 45 minutes and no problem at all then i went to the sand, by curiosity i open up the flaps to see whether there is trace of water and it was dry. Then i close it down and took it again for a swim around 10 minutes but unfortunately when i tried to take a picture in the water the screen started to react weird ( dimming and on / off ) so then i move out of water and open up the flaps and i cried when i saw liltle particle of sand in the border of the flaps so i won't recommend opening it then go again in the water and the phone is damage now and sent it for another one ( had to add 100 $ )
Hope this help
Well I gave it a try and submerged my Z2 in some water in my sink. Made extra sure the flaps were all closed before. Works great after... No damage.
I filmed it for you all to see. Lol.
http://youtu.be/giztciRubqk
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I tested my phone thoroughly for two days or so when I reached the water test. Put it in a pitcher of water and it all went pear shaped. Bubbles poured out of the bottom edge of the screen and within minutes the phone was dead. First time around, I didn't film the test as I was counting on it passing (as my Z1 compact did). Dried it out in rice for a few days, still wouldn't start so I redid the test on film and proved that there was a verifiable leak in the frame. Sent it in to Sony's local repair shop requesting a vacuum test and with a link to the video and received a replacement unit in less than a week. Redid all my tests on the replacement, passed with flying colors. Just returned from a day at the water park with the kids and the phone is still going strong.
In terms of salt water, I've read the salt can collect in and around the frame and either cause corrosion or degrade the seals. Some have advised washing it in tap water after salt water exposure. Still, be aware that whereas you have some protection in the IP58 cert if you get water damage and can prove the flaps were closed and the water was not salt water, but if you use the phone beyond the rating (either deeper water, longer exposure or salt water), you can't claim that Sony said the phone should withstand that treatment.
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Quist said:
I tested my phone thoroughly for two days or so when I reached the water test. Put it in a pitcher of water and it all went pear shaped. Bubbles poured out of the bottom edge of the screen and within minutes the phone was dead. First time around, I didn't film the test as I was counting on it passing (as my Z1 compact did). Dried it out in rice for a few days, still wouldn't start so I redid the test on film and proved that there was a verifiable leak in the frame. Sent it in to Sony's local repair shop requesting a vacuum test and with a link to the video and received a replacement unit in less than a week. Redid all my tests on the replacement, passed with flying colors. Just returned from a day at the water park with the kids and the phone is still going strong.
In terms of salt water, I've read the salt can collect in and around the frame and either cause corrosion or degrade the seals. Some have advised washing it in tap water after salt water exposure. Still, be aware that whereas you have some protection in the IP58 cert if you get water damage and can prove the flaps were closed and the water was not salt water, but if you use the phone beyond the rating (either deeper water, longer exposure or salt water), you can't claim that Sony said the phone should withstand that treatment.
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Crap, spoke too soon. Only just realized that my camera lens has fogged over. Grrr. Guess I'll have to rerun the test. This time around though, the phone still works, but there's not much point in buying a "waterproof" phone that you plan on using as an underwater camera if you have to dry the thing out after every dip in the pool. Ridiculous. Been subjecting my Z1 Compact to the same treatment for months and have never had an issue, so there must be something about the Z2 that means that a number of these units aren't holding up to the IP58 certification.
Hopefully Sony will be as good with this unit as with the last. Otherwise I may have to wait and see what the S5 Active has to offer. Only thing with Samsung phones is the lack of a lanyard eyelet which is a must have in the pool.
Quist said:
I tested my phone thoroughly for two days or so when I reached the water test. Put it in a pitcher of water and it all went pear shaped. Bubbles poured out of the bottom edge of the screen and within minutes the phone was dead. First time around, I didn't film the test as I was counting on it passing (as my Z1 compact did). Dried it out in rice for a few days, still wouldn't start so I redid the test on film and proved that there was a verifiable leak in the frame. Sent it in to Sony's local repair shop requesting a vacuum test and with a link to the video and received a replacement unit in less than a week. Redid all my tests on the replacement, passed with flying colors. Just returned from a day at the water park with the kids and the phone is still going strong.
In terms of salt water, I've read the salt can collect in and around the frame and either cause corrosion or degrade the seals. Some have advised washing it in tap water after salt water exposure. Still, be aware that whereas you have some protection in the IP58 cert if you get water damage and can prove the flaps were closed and the water was not salt water, but if you use the phone beyond the rating (either deeper water, longer exposure or salt water), you can't claim that Sony said the phone should withstand that treatment.
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Crap, spoke too soon. Only just realized that my camera lens has fogged over. Grrr. Guess I'll have to rerun the test. This time around though, the phone still works, but there's not much point in buying a "waterproof" phone that you plan on using as an underwater camera if you have to dry the thing out after every dip in the pool. Ridiculous. Been subjecting my Z1 Compact to the same treatment for months and have never had an issue, so there must be something about the Z2 that means that a number of these units aren't holding up to the IP58 certification.
Hopefully Sony will be as good with this unit as with the last. Otherwise I may have to wait and see what the S5 Active has to offer. Only thing with Samsung phones is the lack of a lanyard eyelet which is a must have in the pool.
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Yeah put mine in the water today and noticed the camera got all foggy. Contacted Sony and they told me to contact my provider. I did that and they tell me to contact Sony. No help so far. Going to try and call again tomorrow. Not happy with the phone so far.
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Dragooon123 said:
How waterproof is this phone? Can I take it to the pool without worry? What about the beach?
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People constantly amaze me.
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On Tuesday, I partially immersed my Xperia Z2 in water and somehow water got in [I am positive the flaps were sealed tightly (As a matter of fact, I didn't even submerge that part.)] I immediately turned the phone off and shook some water out of it and placed it in the sun. A few hours later, I turned on the device to find water in the display. I again turned it off and placed it in a box of rice and silica gel.
So today is the second day after the disaster. The phone seems to be functioning properly and I GUESS some of the water dried out.
SO this is what the display looks like as of now. (I attached an image)
Now, I don't know if this is just water (I believe that's what it is) or if the display is just damaged and I need to get it replaced?
I would really appreciate any kind of help
tendollarswag said:
On Tuesday, I partially immersed my Xperia Z2 in water and somehow water got in [I am positive the flaps were sealed tightly (As a matter of fact, I didn't even submerge that part.)] I immediately turned the phone off and shook some water out of it and placed it in the sun. A few hours later, I turned on the device to find water in the display. I again turned it off and placed it in a box of rice and silica gel.
So today is the second day after the disaster. The phone seems to be functioning properly and I GUESS some of the water dried out.
SO this is what the display looks like as of now. (I attached an image)
Now, I don't know if this is just water (I believe that's what it is) or if the display is just damaged and I need to get it replaced?
I would really appreciate any kind of help
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i have the same i take it to reparation, he do his best to get water out of panel but still there is some point shown in white color
generally its not disturb me :good:
jakobdz said:
i have the same i take it to reparation, he do his best to get water out of panel but still there is some point shown in white color
generally its not disturb me :good:
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Can you please attatch a picture (or maybe email it to me at [email protected]) just so I can see what the display looks like..
Did you like try to do anything on your own with the phone to dry the water out or something?
Also, how long was your phone wet before you took it to the technician?
-Thank you
tendollarswag said:
Can you please attatch a picture (or maybe email it to me at [email protected]) just so I can see what the display looks like..
Did you like try to do anything on your own with the phone to dry the water out or something?
Also, how long was your phone wet before you took it to the technician?
-Thank you
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look to pics and try to zoom theme to the area where i design circle.
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yes i let it one night in pocket of rice in the next day it take it to technician, about 4 hours he call me, he said that he do their best to get water out panel but still there this little white Bubbles, just appear in light colors
jakobdz said:
look to pics and try to zoom theme to the area where i design circle.
yes i let it one night in pocket of rice in the next day it take it to technician, about 4 hours he call me, he said that he do their best to get water out panel but still there this little white Bubbles, just appear in light colors
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Wow, that is such minor damage!
Thank you for sharing the pics
I thought the Z2 is water proof. Isn't it ?
kalda01 said:
I thought the Z2 is water proof. Isn't it ?
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Some Z2s have a slightly open area between their frame and the screen. It's a manufacturing defect.
Does this defect exist even in recently manufactured units? I mean once Sony became aware of the defect they didn't bother correcting the manufacturing flaw ?
Every-time I submerge my Z2 underwater.. more or less 10cm- 20cm there is some condensation buildup on the cameras and flash. All flaps are closed, is this normal??
Here's mine after some water splash, I didn't even submerge the phone.
I tried to make the water dissappear by playing some games so the device gets hot, then I put it on the magnetic charger and the next morning the water was gone.
Warranty should cover it but I just didn't want to be without the phone for 3 weeks
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kalda01 said:
Does this defect exist even in recently manufactured units? I mean once Sony became aware of the defect they didn't bother correcting the manufacturing flaw ?
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I'm not sure but I got mine a couple of days ago
slangza said:
Every-time I submerge my Z2 underwater.. more or less 10cm- 20cm there is some condensation buildup on the cameras and flash. All flaps are closed, is this normal??
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That's not a good sign, it means water got into the phone, I wouldn't submerge it ever again if I was you
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slangza said:
Every-time I submerge my Z2 underwater.. more or less 10cm- 20cm there is some condensation buildup on the cameras and flash. All flaps are closed, is this normal??
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Nope, that shouldn't happen to a water-proof phone at all.
Jiyeon90 said:
That's not a good sign, it means water got into the phone, I wouldn't submerge it ever again if I was you
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Pretty bad waterproofing then! I also have a bit of moisture on the screen.
Will be leaving the phone overnight in rice, hoping it helps!
Jiyeon90 said:
Here's mine after some water splash, I didn't even submerge the phone.
I tried to make the water dissappear by playing some games so the device gets hot, then I put it on the magnetic charger and the next morning the water was gone.
Warranty should cover it but I just didn't want to be without the phone for 3 weeks
Sent from my Xp;eria Z2
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Much easier way: place the phone in an air-tight container filled with rich (or even silica gel). Works like a charm!