Over charging - Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers

Hi..
I'm charging my phone over night, so it will usually over charge after 100%.
does this affect the battery life? https://forum-lw-1.xda-cdn.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

Its not possible to overcharge battery, it will stop charging at 100%.

k3lcior said:
Its not possible to overcharge battery, it will stop charging at 100%.
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I knew.. (no charging over 100%)
what I'm asking about if I leave it charging after reaching 100% for more 3-4 hours. Does this affect battery on the long run??

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[Q] Battery discharging.

Hi,
My battery seems to discharge while charging. It will never reach full charged(100%). When it hit 94% or so, it will start to discharge. Both charging thru USB or wall plug give the same result. Anyone encounter such problem and found a solution? Please share with me.
If i remember correctly the battery should charge to 100% then discharge itself to 90% then recharge so you don't overload it
Maybe it was discharging to 94% when you saw it
erilis said:
If i remember correctly the battery should charge to 100% then discharge itself to 90% then recharge so you don't overload it
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+1. It's normal.
erilis said:
If i remember correctly the battery should charge to 100% then discharge itself to 90% then recharge so you don't overload it
Maybe it was discharging to 94% when you saw it
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Nope, that is definitely not the case. It was charging right infront of me, it never reach 96% let alone 100%.
The strange thing is that sometime it does charge to 100% and the green LED went off. This occurrence is like once in every 10 charges or so.
I had the same problem, I returnedit to my carrier and they gave meanother one. This one doesn't have that problem but mine has WiFi and Bluetooth issues now. I suggest you talk to your carrier
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charge led not blinking when done

Hi,
Got my 101 yesterday and i charged it directly on the power adapter.
I charged it like 17hours but no blinking led?
It all runs well and i think it is charged enough, anybody got the same issue?
Greets
My 70 will only blink if it is turned on while charging, otherwise it won't.
What do you mean, while it is charging or when it is done charging and turned on?
If i charge the 70 when it is turned off, it imediately turns itself on and stays on. When it has fully chrarged the led will flash. However if i put it on charge and it turns itself on, if i then turn it off and leave it charging the led never flashes when it is charged.
Modern Li-Ion battery charge regimes are complex. They will charge until full then turn off until the charge falls below a certain level, then start charging again. So if you happen to look at your device at they wrong time it might not show fully charged because it is part way through the wait cycle. This is done to prolong battery life - it stops the battery from being cooked. You can bump charge a li-on battery to get more juice it it, but that shortens battery life considerably.
Also, it is possible that your battery meter need calibrating. Every 30 days or so let your device run right down before re-charging - this should re-calibrate the meter.
Thanks
I did discover that he only blink when turned on, just what you guys telling here.
Thanks for the reactions
bufflehead said:
Modern Li-Ion battery charge regimes are complex. They will charge until full then turn off until the charge falls below a certain level, then start charging again. So if you happen to look at your device at they wrong time it might not show fully charged because it is part way through the wait cycle. This is done to prolong battery life - it stops the battery from being cooked. You can bump charge a li-on battery to get more juice it it, but that shortens battery life considerably.
Also, it is possible that your battery meter need calibrating. Every 30 days or so let your device run right down before re-charging - this should re-calibrate the meter.
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Whats bump charge?
wimmetje said:
Hi,
It all runs well and i think it is charged enough, anybody got the same issue?
Greets
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Somewhat same issue, battery charge light NEVER blinked, had Archos 32 for 2 weeks on 2.0.71. The charge would never reach 100%, it would stay at 99% for hours, all day, just could not find that 100% mark and switch to status "charged". When I would wait at 99% for an hour or more, when unplugged, the meter would say 100% immediately after disconnecting it. Maybe it was cycling or doing something battery related, but I doubt it in light of upgrading to fw 2.1.2 and now it charges to 100% without an issue and the power led blinks. Looks like they fixed that bug, or at least it is fixed for me now.
Does anyone have trouble with the Archos 70 not charging at all? This has happened a few times now, I've put it on charge overnight and when I check in the morning the battery is at no charge.

Q. Leaving the charger plugged in all the time?

I usually let my fascinate plugged in whenever I'm in my house. I keep my laptop battery away from being overcharged, but should I be aware of overcharging my phone too?
I know it discharges when it reaches a full charge, but it's still charging since it does receive current right? I don't want to shorten the battery capacity due to overcharging..
minho422 said:
I usually let my fascinate plugged in whenever I'm in my house. I keep my laptop battery away from being overcharged, but should I be aware of overcharging my phone too?
I know it discharges when it reaches a full charge, but it's still charging since it does receive current right? I don't want to shorten the battery capacity due to overcharging..
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Your battery will stop accepting the charge when it reaches 100%, then trickle drain down to about 95%, then accept charge until back at 100%, then trickle down again and continue this cycle until you unplug. Everything I read about the Li ion batteries said even though there is this function built into the battery to prevent overcharging, you should not leave the phone on a charger for an extended period of time once it has been charged fully.
on the other hand... how long does it take to significantly shorten your battery life doing that?
http://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-EB575152YZ-BATTERY-FASCINATE-i500/dp/B0045Z8QGQ/ref=sr_1_18?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1304285057&sr=1-18
$15 for a new OEM battery? If it gives you peace of mind, I'd just charge it whenever it's convenient.

[Q] Quick Question About Battery Calibration

Hey everyone,
I'm using the "Battery Calibration" app to calibrate my GS2 battery, and I have already charged it to 100% and wiped the "batterystats.bin" file, and completely discharged it.
Now I have a question about charging it back to 100% - I'm going to be charging it while the phone is turned off, so how long should I leave it on charge before I can be absolutely sure it's at 100%? Some posts suggest 24 hours, while others say overnight or even 8 hours or so is completely fine and enough for the battery to become fully charged. Also, I don't need to "bump charge" to properly calibrate it, correct? I just let it charge to 100% now, and then I can use it as normal, right?
Thanks in advance for your help!
8hours ish should take you upto 100%
And after its upto 100% its fine to use it as normal.
amandureja said:
I just let it charge to 100% now, and then I can use it as normal, right?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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...yep...when you see on the display (by clicking home button) the battery icon showing inside 100% then you can unplug your phone and use it normally...battery have a limit of charge just to avoid corruption so when they are at 100% they automatically stop to receive more charge...that's why I think is useful to leave the phone in charge more than he need.
veyka said:
8hours ish should take you upto 100%
And after its upto 100% its fine to use it as normal.
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...sorry I haven't seen you already answer
Thanks for the responses guys!
Now, it has been about 3 hours since I put my phone for charging, turned off, at a completely discharged 0% battery (I even tried download mode before I put it for charging, to make sure it was completely discharged), and now the charge meter is showing 100%...
I'm pretty sure that 3 hours is a VERY short time to charge to 100%... I haven't taken it off the charger yet, so would you recommend waiting a few more hours (maybe 5 more hours?), or is it fine to just take it off the charger right now?
I'm worried a bit now, because 3 hours seems an extremely short amount of time to charge a battery that is 'supposed' to run for 18+ hours...
Well, I just read that 3 hours is about normal, so thank you for your help!
amandureja said:
Well, I just read that 3 hours is about normal, so thank you for your help!
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...you are welcome bro
Firstly, there isn't such a thing as battery calibration with Lithium batteries. Since there is NO MEMORY EFFECT.
Lithium batteries are not Lead Acid batteries, it does not need 8hr to 16hr trickle charge.
Charging is controlled by BMS, there is no such thing as Charging past 100%. So when it is considered 100% by the BMS (Voltage), the BMS will stop charging it.
Lithium batteries gets damaged when there is less than 10% charge, so emptying it to 0% is not a good idea. You cannot really extend Lithium batteries lifespan since it only has a 2+1/2 yr lifespan, 2000 to 5000 deep charge cycles and around 2,000,000 micro charge cycles. It is better to charge anytime you want, as long as it does not go below 10% (Most electronic equipments will state 0% at that time).
Deep Charge Cycle, when close to 0% (10% charge left in battery) you can charge 2000 times back to 100% (depending on quality of battery)
Micro Charge Cycle, when roughly above 40%, you can charge 2,000,000 times back to 100%.
Soooo..... would you like to limit battery charging cycles to 2000 or prefer that you can charge it 2,000,000 times?

[Q] Overnight Charging

Is there anyway of stopping the screen lighting up when the battery is fully charged - It's a pain the ass while charging over night, all the room lights up.
And No I don't think turning the phone over is a solution.
Ta
why do u charge it overnight? It just needs to be charged for 2-3 hours only. Charging overnight will have negative effect on the battery.
theonlyanil said:
why do u charge it overnight? It just needs to be charged for 2-3 hours only. Charging overnight will have negative effect on the battery.
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Why will it have a negative effect?
theonlyanil said:
why do u charge it overnight? It just needs to be charged for 2-3 hours only. Charging overnight will have negative effect on the battery.
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Why?
I've been charging various devices overnight for as long as I care to remember and never had a problem. Modern chargers drop to a "trickle" charge when the device has reached capacity and so just maintain the full charge.
Thomasba said:
Why?
I've been charging various devices overnight for as long as I care to remember and never had a problem. Modern chargers drop to a "trickle" charge when the device has reached capacity and so just maintain the full charge.
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That's what I thought
Anyhow back to my question.....Anyone know a solution?
Place your phone face down
theonlyanil said:
why do u charge it overnight? It just needs to be charged for 2-3 hours only. Charging overnight will have negative effect on the battery.
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Thomasba said:
Why?
I've been charging various devices overnight for as long as I care to remember and never had a problem. Modern chargers drop to a "trickle" charge when the device has reached capacity and so just maintain the full charge.
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You are both right, however it can have a detrimental effect on the battery over a long period of time. Lithium-ion batteries don't really like to be fully charged, and when they are packing high voltages for long periods of time this can have a damaging effect on them. This is why "bump" charging can damage your battery if you do it often. It is actually much healthier to charge the battery on the go instead of one big overnight charge. Knowing this.... I still charge it overnight, because I simply don't care.
MadBob said:
Place your phone face down
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Maybe if I sleep face down too.
Did you read my first post, guess not
@home said:
Is there anyway of stopping the screen lighting up when the battery is fully charged - It's a pain the ass while charging over night, all the room lights up.
And No I don't think turning the phone over is a solution.
Ta
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Setting - LED indicator - Uncheck..Charging
DrewVL said:
Setting - LED indicator - Uncheck..Charging
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Does that stop the screen lighting up?
Your phone should turn off the screen after 10 seconds when you get fully charged message.

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