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Hi guys,
Just upgraded to the G6 from the OnePlus One. I have the H870DS. It's pretty good, I'm enjoying the phone. The camera is pretty great and it's pretty smooth altho I really did feel the difference from custom ROMs with the One to the skin of LG on the first day but now I'm pretty used to it. There are definitely some things I miss like being able to jump into the battery usage quickly from the notification bar, etc etc.
Anyway, my only real issue is with image retention. I noticed it on the very first day. You can only see it against certain dark colors tho but not against black thankfully. It's not permanent image retention, it goes away if you don't use your screen for a while. It tends to retain images that have been on the screen for a while (Especially with Always On Display) but it doesn't retain them for too long and goes away after a while.
It's a minor annoyance and it doesn't get in the way of usability. It's not glaring or anything just annoying when you can see ghosted images sometimes like when you pull down the status bar (the dark tint + my plain wallpaper makes it show easy). Just wanted to know if you guys are getting this too and if you guys have any solutions or remedies for this.
I did not get this on my G6 but was prepared for this issue since it has been a massive issue with earlier LG phones such as the V10. The problem is that it usually gets much worse over time and my V10 had developed permanent image retention that came after minutes of use after resting over the night. So it was pretty much permanent you could say.
One thing could stop it from happening totally though. Installing the app I will link below, set the filter to the darkest one and opacity to just 3% which is enough. Was not a perfect solution but the only solution.
I really hoped this would not be an issue with the G6 too. LG are basically the only manufacturer with this problem. It's much much worse than on Amoled even.
If you can I would exchange your unit. Mine did not have this at all. If yours has it out-of-box it's troublesome.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.ne.hardyinfinity.bluelightfilter.free
dannejanne said:
I did not get this on my G6 but was prepared for this issue since it has been a massive issue with earlier LG phones such as the V10. The problem is that it usually gets much worse over time and my V10 had developed permanent image retention that came after minutes of use after resting over the night. So it was pretty much permanent you could say.
One thing could stop it from happening totally though. Installing the app I will link below, set the filter to the darkest one and opacity to just 3% which is enough. Was not a perfect solution but the only solution.
I really hoped this would not be an issue with the G6 too. LG are basically the only manufacturer with this problem. It's much much worse than on Amoled even.
If you can I would exchange your unit. Mine did not have this at all. If yours has it out-of-box it's troublesome.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.ne.hardyinfinity.bluelightfilter.free
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I actually got mine 2nd hand from a guy and didn't notice until after using it for a day and by then it was too late. The guy said he never had any issues and thinks I'm scamming him so yeah I'm stuck with this phone now. So I guess I should try to get rid of this as soon as I can before it gets worse?
I also read some comments saying it might be about heat? Like the heat from using it is what causes the image retention and since I live in the Philippines, my average phone temp is a lot higher than some of you guys' temps I'm guessing so if it really is related to temperature than I feel like that's probably why it so easily happens with mine.
I'll try out your app and see if it helps!
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.ne.hardyinfinity.bluelightfilter.free
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Just to clarify, what did the app do for you exactly? Did it prevent the screen from creating retained images or does it just hide them so you don't see them but they're still technically there?
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Just to clarify, what did the app do for you exactly? Did it prevent the screen from creating retained images or does it just hide them so you don't see them but they're still technically there?
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Prevents the screen from creating them.
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I can't guarantee though that it also works on the G6. But it did in fact work on the V10.
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Prevents the screen from creating them.
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I can't guarantee though that it also works on the G6. But it did in fact work on the V10.
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Blue filter app is a well known solution for this problem in every LCD device, another solution would be change the display colors with root (worked on my G5).
Anyway there is no need for a Blue filter app as the G6 as it included in settings "comfort view"
Killua96 said:
Blue filter app is a well known solution for this problem in every LCD device, another solution would be change the display colors with root (worked on my G5).
Anyway there is no need for a Blue filter app as the G6 as it included in settings "comfort view"
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Yeah but it will make the screen more yellow which the OP probably don't want. This just darkens the screen by a very small bit it's barly noticeable at 3% opacity and will not change the screen colors as the filter is black/grey. Seems to be enough to prevent the scren from displaying #FFFFFF.
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Yeah but it will make the screen more yellow which the OP probably don't want. This just darkens the screen by a very small bit it's barly noticeable at 3% opacity and will not change the screen colors as the filter is black/grey. Seems to be enough to prevent the scren from displaying #FFFFFF.
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So it's just #FFFFFF that gets retained? Other colors like slightly different shades of white do not?
Related question: In your experience, does LG Warranty cover this issue say 5, 6, 7 or even 11 months after purchase? And what do they do? Do they replace the screen? Or is this not covered?
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Related question: In your experience, does LG Warranty cover this issue say 5, 6, 7 or even 11 months after purchase? And what do they do? Do they replace the screen? Or is this not covered?
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They cover the issue only if it's really bad (personal experience with G5) until 12 months, after is the seller that have to give you warranty services if you are in Europe
Wait. I didn't think image retention was even a thing on LCDs. I thought that was strictly an AMOLED issue. Is this specific to LG phones?
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Wait. I didn't think image retention was even a thing on LCDs. I thought that was strictly an AMOLED issue. Is this specific to LG phones?
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Imagre retention happens on LCDs, Burn-In on OLED displays, these are two differents things, the first one is due to a bad assembly (like happened to G5) and/or a bad display color managment, it's fixable by editing colors or using a blue light filter, and anyway it will always disappear if the display stays off for some minute (it depends on how bad the retention is), the second one is specific of ALL OLED displays, this means that it could happen on every device with an oled display and a static image on it, also this is permanent.
Lg G6 Image Retention
Does the lg g6 have really bad image retention after 2 to one year of use or it a problem for the past lg phones
JSantos17 said:
Does the lg g6 have really bad image retention after 2 to one year of use or it a problem for the past lg phones
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LG G6 isn't even one year old yet.
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Does the lg g6 have really bad image retention after 2 to one year of use or it a problem for the past lg phones
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I have it since april, it's bad only if you use an app with static images for hours (for me it was fate go and telegram), but it's visible only with grey background at 80% brightness and disappears in some hours.
Really, coming from a G5, I can say that the problem here is far from being a real problem.
My device has some pretty bad image retention near the nav bar where the keyboard would be after having owned it for ~5 months. Theres an off-center patch of the screen that is brighter than the rest.
It's been floating around for a bit. Compared to the note 8 it looks absolutely horrible. Really bad. Was thinking about getting this phone till I saw this!!
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/lg-v30-hands-on-lgs-oled-displays-still-have-quality-issues/
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It's been floating around for a bit. Compared to the note 8 it looks absolutely horrible. Really bad. Was thinking about getting this phone till I saw this!!
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/lg-v30-hands-on-lgs-oled-displays-still-have-quality-issues/
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Hopefully just pre-production issues.
LG actually makes the best OLED panels for TVs that even Sony uses for their TVs. So, there's no reason there should be any quality issues, except LG Display is a "separate" company from the LG company that makes cell phones. However, Google gave them almost $1 billion to get another line up and running to help out with the 2017 Pixel XL. Google used Samsung displays last year, but will be using LG displays this year and LG will be making the 2017 Pixel XL. So, if you are worried, wait a few months until the Pixels especially are in production before buying an LG V30. Because Google will make them straighten out any problems.
FYI, in the reader comments, someone mentioned another reviewer PRAISED the LG V30 display as being excellent. So, the Ars Technica guy may have just gotten a lemon or again, just pre-production issues.
It's one pre production unit. Can't really pass judgement on this yet.
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It's one pre production unit. Can't really pass judgement on this yet.
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Correct, a sample of one. I don't stare at black screens so uneven lighting doesn't bother me in actual use. Most people have praised the screen. So, as long as it looks good when it actually displaying images, I will be happy.
I know other don't feel the same.
It's disturbing.
There are at least two reviews that note banding and screen uniformity issues. There will be more. This issue is cause by the P-OLED manufacturing process LG employs. Screen colors are vibrant and gorgeous ... that is, until you start reducing the LED color input (or dimming the screen). Then the problems start showing up. Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
Side by side comparison to a Note 8 has proven this issue given that the V30 has a higher pixel density.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt the production units will be any different.
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It's disturbing.
There are at least two reviews that note banding and screen uniformity issues. There will be more. This issue is cause by the P-OLED manufacturing process LG employs. Screen colors are vibrant and gorgeous ... that is, until you start reducing the LED color input (or dimming the screen). Then the problems start showing up. Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
Side by side comparison to a Note 8 has proven this issue given that the V30 has a higher pixel density.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt the production units will be any different.
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No,it's not disturbing. Most reviewers say it's fantastic. You will find a couple of reviewers will always give critical reviews no matter what.
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/artic...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
This switch in display tech, along with further refinement of the already slim bezels of the G6, makes the V30’s screen hands down the best LG smartphone screen ever. All colours look lush and gorgeous, especially the blacks and red, and the display and glass back both curve towards the metal frame for that symmetrical “glass sandwich” look that Samsung pioneered.
The V30 ticks just about every smartphone box, including a whole bunch that most people never asked for. It has a large, gorgeous OLED display with slim bezels, cameras that excel in low light situations and the newest mobile processor. It is IP68 water-resistant, comes with hi-fi audio capabilities and can be charged wirelessly.
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http://www.t3.com/reviews/lg-v30-review
Okay, the next thing you'll notice is that brilliant 6-inch screen. LG has switched to using OLED panels, and the result is fantastic
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It's not even 50/50. I can find you 10 positive reviews for every negative one.
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Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
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Yes, my light bulbs tend to turn dark when I turn them off.
These reviewers are using pre-production models, so actual retail won't be any worse and will probably be better. And even with that caveat, it's about 10/1 rave reviews.
Ok...Find me a pre-review that compares the V30's screen quality directly to another phone's screen quality. You'll find a lot of Note 8 and G6 reviews reference the V30's change to OLED but no direct OLED quality comparison.
Secondly, have you owned any P-OLED screen phones before? I have. Still have em. Their screens get better with each iteration but that banding (and graininess) is still there. OG G Flex - saturated screen bad, grainy 720p. G Flex 2 - Crispy saturated OLED colors noticeable banding, less grain on 1080p. V30 looks great brightness all the way up but....it's 1440p right?
I know the hope is real, but this is a hardware issue. Much harder to figure out than a camera software fix.
Think about this: When the V10 and V20 pre-review units went out, LG never revised their hardware - only the software was updated.
....Like I said I hope I'm wrong.
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Ok...Find me a pre-review that compares the V30's screen quality directly to another phone's screen quality. You'll find a lot of Note 8 and G6 reviews reference the V30's change to OLED but no direct OLED quality comparison.
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I found plenty comparing LG to Samsung OLED quality. Here's three below.
Then "worst" review is first... The only quibble mentioned on the first review (in one pre production unit) was "low light" issues, not banding nor uniformity. And the first reviewer even mentions LG"s crappy P-OLED efforts years ago and says that's not evident on this LG V30. He praises the current phone display as does the 2nd reviewer and third -- and ALL compare to Samsung's OLEDs, like the S7, S8, S8+.
1) LG V30 initial review: The no-BS flagship
I'm happy to report that the company has made a huge amount of progress over the past two years, to the point where V30's screen is almost as good as Samsung's SuperAMOLED. That sounds like faint praise, but I'm actually more than satisfied with what LG has brought to the table here. It's not Galaxy S8 good, but it's surprisingly close, and that's an achievement in itself.
Samsung is still the king of smartphone displays, there's no doubt about that. But LG's latest screen, at Quad HD+ resolution, looks fantastic and punchy, and unlike some of those older P-OLED panels, is clear enough to use outdoors in bright daylight.
If anything, this display's major weakness is in low light. It has an unfortunate tendency to crush shadow details at lower brightness levels, to the point where dark areas become illegible — and that's not great if you're watching Netflix by candlelight, or trying to judge exposure in a low-light photo. This is a disappointing holdover from older OLED efforts, and it's easily fixed in software by simply raising the floor for brightness, but that's not exactly ideal.
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The display, despite some low-light issues, is a step beyond any previous LG phone in terms of quality and daylight legibility. The size is near perfect for me, providing an expansive display in a more ergonomic handset than Samsung can currently offer.
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The V30's going to have its work cut out going up against the Note 8s and Pixels and iPhones of the world when it launches. But for the moment, it's easily among the best Android phones I've used, and has every chance of being a sleeper hit for late 2017.
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2) LG's Upcoming V30 May Be Its Best Smartphone Yet
“Is that the new Samsung phone?” I’ve been asked that several times the past few weeks, as I’ve been testing out LG’s upcoming V30 smartphone. And I get it, as the phone is thin, black-fronted, sleek, large, and has rounded edges with a big screen that covers a massive area. No doubt that at quick glance, the resemblance to what I've seen of the Samsung Galaxy Note8 in photos is close.
And because I regularly use a two-year-old Samsung phone, I’ve noticed that the similarities extend beyond sheer looks. For instance, the V30 has a vibrant screen. It’s the best one I’ve seen on an LG phone yet. Colors are intense while blacks are pitch dark. Photos truly pop -- something that I find beautiful in all of the latest Samsung models but lacking in recent LG phones. In this case, LG attributes that radiance to “QHD+ resolution” plus a 6-inch OLED display. Apparently, self-lighting pixels help generate infinite contrast. Sparing you the tech jargon, it’s just a terrific display that can be adjusted to be very bright -- although it doesn’t quite max out as bright as the display on my Samsung.
This makes looking at photos and videos a pleasure.
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3) LG V30 hands-on: Believe the hype
LG is back in the game
LG has talked a lot about the improvement in image quality as it switches from LCD to OLED in the V30. For me, the six-inch, Quad HD+ display (2880 x 1440) is one of the handset’s best elements. The colors look bright and vivid, almost popping off the screen – watching HDR YouTube content on it is breathtaking.
I’ve found the contrast between black and white makes reading text so good that I’m now using the V30 instead of my iPad Air 2 to peruse web articles. The phone's screen trounces my Galaxy S7 Edge, and while I only compared the two briefly, I also preferred it to the S8+.
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And after using it for about a week, I still got that “wow” feeling every time the gorgeous display came to life.
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So, there's three specific comparisons to Samsung, talking specifically about the display and how GREAT it is. You want more, I'll give them to you.
Now two more facts...
1) Google PIXEL XL2 will have the same LG OLED display as found in the LG V30.
2) LG Display’s OLEDs Coming on Premium Phone from Huawei, OPPO, Vivo and Xiaomi
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/09/...coming-premium-phone-huawei-oppo-vivo-xiaomi/
Well, production unit issues are backing up my previous statements.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...screen-exhibiting-color-imbalance-issues.html
"According to a recent report from South Korea, LG customers who have had the opportunity to purchase the LG V30 after its September 21 debut in the country have started raising complaints in regards to the quality of the display. Apparently, the issue lies in the P-OLED panel’s inability to distribute colors and brightness evenly across the entire surface, resulting in an undesirable effect similar to the so-called “light bleeding” usually exhibited by backlit LCD panels."
Things to Keep In Mind:
1. The screen is still beautiful and vivid despite this issue
2. LG is aware, and price will come in lower (will continue to go down slightly as all units will have this issue)
3. Screen will not take away all the features packed into the phone
4. Consumers will have to decide between light uniformity issues vs. the better battery life and weight advantages the P-OLED screen brings.
The Simple said:
Well, production unit issues are backing up my previous statements.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...screen-exhibiting-color-imbalance-issues.html
"According to a recent report from South Korea, LG customers who have had the opportunity to purchase the LG V30 after its September 21 debut in the country have started raising complaints in regards to the quality of the display. Apparently, the issue lies in the P-OLED panel’s inability to distribute colors and brightness evenly across the entire surface, resulting in an undesirable effect similar to the so-called “light bleeding” usually exhibited by backlit LCD panels."
Things to Keep In Mind:
1. The screen is still beautiful and vivid despite this issue
2. LG is aware, and price will come in lower (will continue to go down slightly as all units will have this issue)
3. Screen will not take away all the features packed into the phone
4. Consumers will have to decide between light uniformity issues vs. the better battery life and weight advantages the P-OLED screen brings.
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I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Google is also using LG OLED for the Pixel 2 XL, so they're satisfied with the quality.
As are all the reviewers I quoted, directly comparing to Samsung AMOLED.
ChazzMatt said:
I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Google is also using LG OLED for the Pixel 2 XL, so they're satisfied with the quality.
As are all the reviewers I quoted, directly comparing to Samsung AMOLED.
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You make a good point here. If Google is using lg's P-OLED panels. Then they seem to be good enough. I'm taking all this news with a grain of salt. I'll wait till the V30 actually launches in the US and US reviewers start reviewing production models.
Funny thing is that reputable tech reviewers like MKBHD, Pocket now, Mr. Mobile, etc have had nothing but praise and thye all had pre production models. I usually don't trust all these others tech sites as they are biased most of the time or too critical/take it out of proportion.
We'll see how the pixel is received and I can tell you that most of these site won't says anything about the pixel's display.
Just because Google is using them, doesn't make them great. The Nexus 6 had horrible screens.
Actually, the screen on the Nexus 6 was the main appeal. It was gorgeous at the time and it might still be my daily driver if it only had SD.
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Just because Google is using them, doesn't make them great. The Nexus 6 had horrible screens.
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No, not really. The screen on Nexus 6 is beautiful. I have a Nexus 6. It is a tab but warm compared to other screens bit it doesn't take away from the experience at all.
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No, not really. The screen on Nexus 6 is beautiful. I have a Nexus 6. It is a tab but warm compared to other screens bit it doesn't take away from the experience at all.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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I know there are threads about screen issues. I'm saying that I never had these issues. And I know atleast 10 others that don't have the issue. My dad, some devs and couple friends.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but let me tell you a story. I work professionally in broadcast TV, on the technical side. I know about video, and now specifically about HD video. My experience includes not only content creation but QC at the highest levels for global #1 brand.
We have the BEST equipment, the best video displays -- so I know what's good and what's crap. I watch HD video for a living you might say. Back in early 2008, I personally bought my first HD TV, a 60" Sony Bravia 1080p. It was FANTASTIC. In the years since, I've replaced it with another 60" TV, but this story is about that Sony. I did my research, and I bought that TV because it was the best TV for the money at the time. (I couldn't afford Panasonic plasma back then.)
In a forum much like this one, there were a few OCD people who found issues with that specific model Sony Bravia 1080p TVs. Light leakage, banding, blah, blah, blah. One guy took back his TV THREE TIMES to get replacements. Yet, that year, THAT TV model won Best HD TV of the Year award. I kept my TV for 6 years, finally replacing it in 2014 when the technology got so much better. There was NOTHING wrong with that TV.
So, where's the disconnect? I think some people look for flaws that aren't there and find them. Looking through the threads, these same people seem to take back ALL their TVs. I don't know why, and I don't want to disparage them. Maybe it made them feel superior to see flaws that weren't there.
But remember, I know more about video displays than they do, and how good HD video should look (FROM THE SOURCE!). Seeing that TV in my living room looking at the exact same video I had seen at the source back at work, I knew what looked "good" and what didn't. That TV looked fantastic. So, I think there were other issues going on than the actual TV. (Yes, you have to set up all HD TVs -- tweak the settings. You can't just use them out of the box, or you often have cartoonish skin tones. But these people also claimed extensive knowledge in how to set up a TV, so it wasn't that.)
Yes, there will be lemons in a production run of a million units, but those occasional lemons don't tarnish the whole model. That guy that took three back, I'm very skeptical he got three bad TVs in a row and I got the only "perfect" one. You know?
It's my profession, so video is very important to me. But right now, I have to say I take professional reviewers word over "reports" from South Korea. And if Google and many others are using LG OLED displays, and Google is using it for their XL flagship this year, they must have great quality.
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I know there are threads about screen issues. I'm saying that I never had these issues. And I know atleast 10 others that don't have the issue. My dad, some devs and couple friends.
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See above. That's not to say there may not be early production issues, but U.S. units will be shipped later so it should be all straightened out. I'm just VERY skeptical of when a few people find "problems" like this. Then when you look at their history, they are the only ones who seem to be plagued with these problems over and over.
You got me all wrong. You can do whatever profession or job you want, doesn't make you an expert because you work with certain equipment. Car salesman work with cars all day long, doesn't make them experts on engines.
I know what I look for because I know what I pay for, I know my first s8+ had red tint on the top right side of the screen. This one don't, I've looked and looked on this one, can't find it. You can't find something that isn't there. But if something's there and you look for it, you'll find it.
Either or, to each their own.
I was watching some movies last night and I noticed that the blacks would sometimes get way too black making stuff almost impossible to see. The grey areas seemed kinda pixelated and it looked odd and didn't seem right. Ill try to post pics later. I was watching in 0% brightness and turning up the brightness helped a little bit.
I looked it up and found Digital trends stated the very same thing in their review although it seemed only one of their devices had this. So I'm wondering if it's just a defect with my device possibly. Other than that my V30 has been absolutely amazing, I'm loving it.
Anyone else noticing this on their V30?
Here's the Digital Trends article:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cell-phone-reviews/lg-v30-review/
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I was watching some movies last night and I noticed that the blacks would sometimes get way too black making stuff almost impossible to see. The grey areas seemed kinda pixelated and it looked odd and didn't seem right. Ill try to post pics later. I was watching in 0% brightness and turning up the brightness helped a little bit.
I looked it up and found Digital trends stated the very same thing in their review although it seemed only one of their devices had this. So I'm wondering if it's just a defect with my device possibly. Other than that my V30 has been absolutely amazing, I'm loving it.
Anyone else noticing this on their V30?
Here's the Digital Trends article:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cell-phone-reviews/lg-v30-review/
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Watch it. There's a few threads around here about this. A bridge dweller will reply to this staying that it's pretty much caused by the way you use your phone.
There's defects with these on some of the screens that people are encountering. Do you have any pics?
I'm thinking about picking one of these up. So am I to understand that it would look poor quality to watch a movie with the brightness set at 0%?
Geez louise ! You can't go by that !
Have you ripped the movie ? Is it Blu-Ray rip ? Constant or variable bitrate ? High Resolution ? Framerate ? 1080P 720i ? Is it on low class sd card ? Are you using standard stock player that has no codecs installed ? See there is million other things that can be wrong . Not your phone ! There is amateurs out there who rip movies and they don't know what they are doing and then you blame your new phone . Naaaah . Your phone is ok .
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I'm thinking about picking one of these up. So am I to understand that it would look poor quality to watch a movie with the brightness set at 0%?
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Sounds like the OLED display uniformity defect people have been experiencing. Some users notice it below 30%, others not until much lower brightness. Doesn't seem to affect all phones but it does affect a fair number of them. Not sure why the person above is acting as if this isn't a known problem.
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Watch it. There's a few threads around here about this. A bridge dweller will reply to this staying that it's pretty much caused by the way you use your phone.
There's defects with these on some of the screens that people are encountering. Do you have any pics?
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Here are some pictures. They aren't very good. I'll try to take better ones later
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Sounds like the OLED display uniformity defect people have been experiencing. Some users notice it below 30%, others not until much lower brightness. Doesn't seem to affect all phones but it does affect a fair number of them. Not sure why the person above is acting as if this isn't a known problem.
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Because there's a handful of them here that seem to pull whatever out of the sky to defend lg or something.
budalica said:
Geez louise ! You can't go by that !
Have you ripped the movie ? Is it Blu-Ray rip ? Constant or variable bitrate ? High Resolution ? Framerate ? 1080P 720i ? Is it on low class sd card ? Are you using standard stock player that has no codecs installed ? See there is million other things that can be wrong . Not your phone ! There is amateurs out there who rip movies and they don't know what they are doing and then you blame your new phone . Naaaah . Your phone is ok .
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I have to agree, I was streaming recorded TV from my DVR, it isn't the best quality, it had the greatest amount of artifacts and problems I described. On higher quality video is was definitely less noticeable. Neflix HDR is doing something too, the blacks kinda turn orange. There are a lot of factors i need to take a look at.
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Because there's a handful of them here that seem to pull whatever out of the sky to defend lg or something.
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Agreed. I mean, my V30 is arriving at UPS today and I'm excited, but I've been burned by LG on my last two phones so I will send it back immediately if I notice any issues and will be buying from Samsung with their $300 trade in deal. I can't deal with more LG defects and having them replaced multiple times haha I'm just done with exchanges of defective phones.
I understand you, I had my G2 replaced twice, my V10 3 times for boot loop and screen ghosting.
I had Mate 20 Pro with LG display and got it exchanged due to display issues (greenish in total darkness, low brightness). Now I got with BOE display, but I found out one issue that I had on LG screen too. Check the video that I recorded back on LG display. Exact same issue is on new phone with BOE display. To explain:
watching YouTube video in full screen and after a minute or two I exit the full screen and want to check notifications. When I slide down notification bar, the white part of YouTube with description of video is part black, part white.
Same goes if I play for example fortnite. Loading screen show like it is burned. I have new device for less then week.
Any idea, is this display again or something else? No, it's not normal for OLED displays, at least not by my experience in all years with OLED displays..
https://youtu.be/7cqlff7Zm-U
Same issue on the darktheme only visible in youtube though.
On new phone I'm using white/light theme, not dark anymore and issue is still here.
Also visable by me at only youtube app.
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Same only in YouTube and when I click back and watch another video in small size the burn is not there, is it a software thing?
This is what I would like to know too. I don't see that problems on Samsung and Oneplus 6 (both amoled). This could be either software or displays are really faulty.
This is a display issue, anand tech highlighted it in their review. I've already sent a phone back because if it. It differs in severity from device to device but I've had this on BOE and LG screens.
droidhd said:
I had Mate 20 Pro with LG display and got it exchanged due to display issues (greenish in total darkness, low brightness). Now I got with BOE display, but I found out one issue that I had on LG screen too. Check the video that I recorded back on LG display. Exact same issue is on new phone with BOE display. To explain:
watching YouTube video in full screen and after a minute or two I exit the full screen and want to check notifications. When I slide down notification bar, the white part of YouTube with description of video is part black, part white.
Same goes if I play for example fortnite. Loading screen show like it is burned. I have new device for less then week.
Any idea, is this display again or something else? No, it's not normal for OLED displays, at least not by my experience in all years with OLED displays..
https://youtu.be/7cqlff7Zm-U
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Image retention (which I don't have) is normal, is rare, but does happen on LG displays usually.
Screen burn in is NORMAL on amoled. Your years of experience are wrong. I see burn in on every single amoled display within days or weeks of use and over 2 years the burn is is quite pronounced whether you see it or not.
It's not burn in, it's a bug with the content adaptive brightness control (CABC) system they're using that persists even though the screen content has changed. It's a software problem not a hardware one.
Jonathan-H said:
Image retention (which I don't have) is normal, is rare, but does happen on LG displays usually.
Screen burn in is NORMAL on amoled. Your years of experience are wrong. I see burn in on every single amoled display within days or weeks of use and over 2 years the burn is is quite pronounced whether you see it or not.
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I do guess you read only what you want?
1. It is NOT on LG, it is BOE.
2. Phone is 1 week old and this is from day 1. And by your experience it is normal that screen is burned on first day?
jaju123 said:
It's not burn in, it's a bug with the content adaptive brightness control (CABC) system they're using that persists even though the screen content has changed. It's a software problem not a hardware one.
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If this is software bug, is there any solution for it?
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If this is software bug, is there any solution for it?
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They can fix it with a software update (I think).
It is mentioned further in this review of the mate 20 pro:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13503/the-mate-20-mate-20-pro-review/7
This came out today from total darkness. on every photo is written about camera settings. BOE display
http://imgur.com/a/1ZKMP3R
I have a BOE and don't have any of those issues, the only issues are with I am guessing a software graphic driver with the Google dark colour on Huawei video app and occasionally in the XDA app sometimes the colour isn't always the same shade it has gradients of lighter Shades. Although this doesn't happen in Google messaging or the Google phone and contact apps. It's strange that it only happens in the two apps.
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How do you tell which panel you have?
speedyjay said:
How do you tell which panel you have?
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Do you know if the issue has been resolved or if it is still present?
if latest post is on January I think it's resolved..
I used to have it on 9.0 emui. It is fixed on 9.1 emui
So i swapped my first device kinda wish i hadent as the screen was great.
New device has green tint anything below 10% (this i can just about live with as i just raise brightness). However i recently noticed in direct sunlight yesterday that i can barely see screen and it tints purple (yes i have adaptive brightness on)
Now something really strange in bright sunlight when a shadow casts across a white screen , the shadow against screen is green has anyone else noticed this ......?
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hard to capture properly as spare phone is an old iphone but the green shadow is from my hand which can be observed above , also notice how the white tints to purple.
tonnytech said:
So i swapped my first device kinda wish i hadent as the screen was great.
New device has green tint anything below 10% (this i can just about live with as i just raise brightness). However i recently noticed in direct sunlight yesterday that i can barely see screen and it tints purple (yes i have adaptive brightness on)
Now something really strange in bright sunlight when a shadow casts across a white screen , the shadow against screen is green has anyone else noticed this ......?
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hard to capture properly as spare phone is an old iphone but the green shadow is from my hand which can be observed above , also notice how the white tints to purple.
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Well the green tint below 10% i don't experience with my phone.
The other notion/complaint, is just natural properties of an OLED panel, all my previous phones had the purple in sunlight tint.
probably the brighter sunlight reflecting in one of the physical layers of the panel. Nothing you can get rid off unless you want LCD.
backfromhome said:
Well the green tint below 10% i don't experience with my phone.
The other notion/complaint, is just natural properties of an OLED panel, all my previous phones had the purple in sunlight tint.
probably the brighter sunlight reflecting in one of the physical layers of the panel. Nothing you can get rid off unless you want LCD.
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i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
tonnytech said:
i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
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Look, the picture you took in sunlight is normal behavior and physics.
The low light low brightness pictures are indeed not normal, indeed should be exchanged for another device!
tonnytech said:
i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
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also, on the first photo I can see black bar near punch hole
exactly the same as on mine.. will probably send it back
Just got new phone July batch , first impressions are a lot less green tint ..... thank god June panel was a joke July panel I think its still there just a lot less this time ... will see later this evening and post picture back.
black bar across top i can see but not to bothered about this in all honesty.
Colours have to admit whites are cleaner as a result but rest look to be calibrated identical to last panel.
I think my first panel dated May was the best colours just seemed to wow instantly , everyone who saw phone commented on display in a positive manner.
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Here, this is how mine looks like at min brightness: green tint and horizontal bar
Sending it back
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Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
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Might that be because your device is prior to May on build?
I think it’s pointless replacing now I’ve had three models and it seems inherent now from my own experiences.
Do you use dark mode?
Sorry for the questions just trying to get some feedback
I’m only speculating but my latest device also has it my only device which didn’t have it was built in May , I’m wondering if the early batches had good panels for reviews etc and they cheaped out after that to bring production costs down (speculation as I say) but seen this before with other companies.
One thing I’ve noticed on my latest device is it goes a lot brighter than my previous June model. I’m thinking if I want to keep this device, I’m going to have use light mode which is a shame, if we had root we could just black out all the grey parts like status bar notifications etc and mask issue.
tonnytech said:
Might that be because your device is prior to May on build?
I think it’s pointless replacing now I’ve had three models and it seems inherent now from my own experiences.
Do you use dark mode?
Sorry for the questions just trying to get some feedback
I’m only speculating but my latest device also has it my only device which didn’t have it was built in May , I’m wondering if the early batches had good panels for reviews etc and they cheaped out after that to bring production costs down (speculation as I say) but seen this before with other companies.
One thing I’ve noticed on my latest device is it goes a lot brighter than my previous June model. I’m thinking if I want to keep this device, I’m going to have use light mode which is a shame, if we had root we could just black out all the grey parts like status bar notifications etc and mask issue.
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not sure about your theory abt early batches; my device's QC date is April 22 and yet I have display issues
seems this type of issues are pretty common with this panel which is used by both Oppo and OnePlus
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
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tobias14 said:
not sure about your theory abt early batches; my device's QC date is April 22 and yet I have display issues
seems this type of issues are pretty common with this panel which is used by both Oppo and OnePlus
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well that shoots that theory down
I dont think there`s much point swapping its like looking for a unicorn either return and try a device without this samsung panel or find a way to live with it sadly :/
tonnytech said:
well that shoots that theory down
I dont think there`s much point swapping its like looking for a unicorn either return and try a device without this samsung panel or find a way to live with it sadly :/
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yep, seems so.. a lottery
the thing is that I can see this issue only at very low brightness, somewhere below ~15%
and in everyday use the display is perfect (I anyway always use light theme)
but then again it bothers me knowing it is there
on the fence now:
send the Oppo back (already have return label) and try luck again with OP8 Pro (order placed, should be dispatched tomorrow; I sent back my first OP 8 for a refund due to same display issues)
or just live with it, keep Oppo and cancel OP 8 order...
tobias14 said:
yep, seems so.. a lottery
the thing is that I can see this issue only at very low brightness, somewhere below ~15%
and in everyday use the display is perfect (I anyway always use light theme)
but then again it bothers me knowing it is there
on the fence now:
send the Oppo back (already have return label) and try luck again with OP8 Pro (order placed, should be dispatched tomorrow; I sent back my first OP 8 for a refund due to same display issues)
or just live with it, keep Oppo and cancel OP 8 order...
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Hold onto oppo await OnePlus if it's green then decide on which phone to keep or return both ... Less swaps
Good luck ?
How do you see your QC date?
belloni said:
How do you see your QC date?
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It is on the box
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tobias14 said:
It is on the box
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You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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tonnytech said:
You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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I cancelled OP8 order that day as I thought that I can live with Oppo's screen. But I can't, so I sent it back today.
Ordered OP8 pro again, it is arriving tomorrow. Will update once received, fingers crossed.
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tonnytech said:
You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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so, got my 2nd OP8 pro y'day and the black bar is there and green tint at low brightness as well. QC date is May 28th, the same was for my first OP8 pro
this is my 3rd device with same panel and same issues (2x OP8 pro, 1x Find X2 pro)