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A friend of mine has a wifi enabled samsung phone with T-Mobile so when he goes to jobs or his house where he doesn't have any T-Mobile range he can enable the wifi and once connected all calls in or out are handled by VoIP and the mobile service is disabled. This way his same T-Mobile Number is used. Is there a way I can setup my phone to work this same way? I am moving to a farm out in the country where there is no cell coverage so I want to setup my phone to go wifi around the farm.
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mr.ellsworth
The response to this question is overwhelming.
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The response to this question is overwhelming.
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That is T-Mobile's UMA.
http://www.umatechnology.org/overview/
mr.ellsworth said:
A friend of mine has a wifi enabled samsung phone with T-Mobile so when he goes to jobs or his house where he doesn't have any T-Mobile range he can enable the wifi and once connected all calls in or out are handled by VoIP and the mobile service is disabled. This way his same T-Mobile Number is used. Is there a way I can setup my phone to work this same way? I am moving to a farm out in the country where there is no cell coverage so I want to setup my phone to go wifi around the farm.
Thanks,
mr.ellsworth
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i havent tried lately, but the last i heard, VoIP on the titan only worked via speakerphone.
dcd1182 said:
i havent tried lately, but the last i heard, VoIP on the titan only worked via speakerphone.
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Yeah, I felt semi-idiotic while holding a phone backwords to my head while I was overseas, but it got the job done..
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Yeah, I felt semi-idiotic while holding a phone backwords to my head while I was overseas, but it got the job done..
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haha!
were you using MS VoIP with Schap's setupvoip.cab or did you install skype or something?
when using VoIP program on the titan, can you use the headset or a bluetooth head set?
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haha!
were you using MS VoIP with Schap's setupvoip.cab or did you install skype or something?
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I was using Skype lowcpu cab.. they could hear me clear as day, but I ended up with a choppy reception of them.
One more weird thing was I couldn't get GPS to lock while I was over there.. It'd pull up the sats, but I'd never get a triangulation.
when using VoIP program on the titan, can you use the headset or a bluetooth head set? sorry i leave to japan this weekend and i am curious to know if anyone has had a good experience with this.
thanks
Although this is Not mogul specific it is a similar thing that you plug into your router and use your internet connection to create a viop cell based mini cell tower works with all sprint cdma phones. So if you will have broadband out @ your farm you can get this. As long as you are in range of your airave box you will not get charged usage minutes, however you are not allowed to use data off of the airave just voice i don't know if that means you won't get text messages or not as it does not say in the brochure or video, it just states that you cant download or use the web on your phone when in airave range. The service can be added to any sprint phone for $15 a month and you get unlimited min while talking off of the airave signal. Any sprint phone can use it up 2 3 phones @ a time but if you don't have the airave on your plan you will get charged cell min based on your plan. If you have a windows mobile phone with wireless the data part of this should not be an issue as we can browse the web off of our wifi on the mogul.
check the site out if you have sprint its similar to T-Mobiles approach but this service will work with any sprint cdma phone as it basically is a mini cell tower that uses your internet to connect to the sprint network to make calls over your cdma bands. T-Mobiles service requires a phone that is compatible.
http://www.sprintenterprise.com/airave/
After reading up on some of the FAQ's I noticed you can use data as normal but it is charged according to your plan and is offered @ the same performance level of current sprint internet no mention of EVDO speeds
Can I use all my normal phone functions like voicemail and text messaging with AIRAVE?
Yes. All the voice functions you enjoy with your Sprint CDMA handset can be used while you are within the AIRAVE coverage area. And while data applications are accessible, they are provided at the same performance level as is currently available through Sprint Vision. In addition, data usage is not part of the unlimited plan.
What is the range of the Sprint AIRAVE?
The coverage radius is up to 5,000 square feet.
Does a wireless call I make within AIRAVE coverage continue once I leave the coverage area?
Yes. Calls originating inside the AIRAVE coverage area transfer to the Sprint Nationwide Network once you leave the AIRAVE coverage area.
Note: you will be billed at your regular wireless plan rate for the portion of the call that has been transferred to the Sprint Nationwide Network.
Does a wireless call that starts outside of my home transfer to the Sprint AIRAVE coverage area when I arrive home?
Calls made outside the AIRAVE coverage area are not transferred to the AIRAVE device even though you may be within the coverage area. If you wish to take advantage of the unlimited calling feature of AIRAVE, you must end the call that was placed outside of the coverage area and initiate a new call on the AIRAVE device.
Can I restrict who has access to my Sprint AIRAVE?
Yes, you can limit who has access to your AIRAVE device by creating a list of approved Sprint phone numbers (up to 50 phone numbers). You can create your list by calling Customer Care at (888) 211-4727.
Can other Sprint customers use my Sprint AIRAVE?
All Sprint customers with a Sprint CDMA handset can use the AIRAVE device. However, the customer must have the unlimited calling plan on their account in order to take advantage of the unlimited calling plan.
some of the more important questions that the FAQ answers
Thanks, I will check into this.
I installed Skype from the website, but I get no sound when a call connects. Can anyone help? Also where did you get the Skype lowcpu cab?
Skype Low CPU cab.. it's the only one I've got to work decently with the Titan.
http://rapidshare.com/files/122979389/Low_CPU_2.0.0.51.zip.html
Sorry about the rapidshare. I tried to upload it here and it kept failing.
Thanks I got it to work. Appreciate your help.
mr.ellsworth said:
A friend of mine has a wifi enabled samsung phone with T-Mobile so when he goes to jobs or his house where he doesn't have any T-Mobile range he can enable the wifi and once connected all calls in or out are handled by VoIP and the mobile service is disabled. This way his same T-Mobile Number is used. Is there a way I can setup my phone to work this same way? I am moving to a farm out in the country where there is no cell coverage so I want to setup my phone to go wifi around the farm.
Thanks,
mr.ellsworth
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interesting question, and i would like to mention that what you want is basically, all the same cell phone shebang, but over WiFi, am i correct?
If this is so, id probably imagine its a Carrier given feature. I would like to divulge on this more, as i would love this as well.
Yes, its a carrier-specific feature. T-mobile basically has a VOIP service back end into their system as well as the GSM front end.
That way, your phone can switch between using GSM towers or the internet, and either way reach T-mobile.
Since Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, etc... do NOT have such a back end in place, you can't call with your normal phone line over IP.
what you CAN do, however, is set up an additional line with some voip carrier such as broadvoice, freedigits, vonage, skype, etc... and then run that second line from your handset over IP.
I used to do this in my office where I had no cell reception- I'd have my calls forwarded to a freedigits line, which has free incoming calls over IP. The caller would be transfered to my other number without knowing. The problem is, if I called them back, it would be from some number that they wouldn't recognize as my own.
I wrote about it over a year ago here:
http://mobile-enthusiast.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-never-miss-call-with-your.html
dcd1182 said:
VoIP on the titan only worked via speakerphone.
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Yes. that's true....
michaelm91 said:
when using VoIP program on the titan, can you use the headset or a bluetooth head set?
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Yes, you can...
jerason said:
Skype Low CPU cab.. it's the only one I've got to work decently with the Titan.
http://rapidshare.com/files/1229793...doesn't work.
Am I missing a step somewhere?
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When I installed this cab on Sprint Mogul DCD 3.2.5 3.42.50 radio, I couldn't get the program to load up. I would press the Skype program icon and see the rainbow spinner telling me the phone is thinking, then nothing. Even after multiple reinstalls and soft resets, it still doesn't work.
Am I missing a step somewhere?
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No. I had this working somewhere around dcd 3.2.1, but since I upgraded to 3.2.2 and now 3.2.5 it isn't working anymore. It worked well with older dcd versions though, but don't quote me on the 3.2.1. It might have been before that but I'm pretty sure it was 3.2.1 if you really want to give it a shot. I would soft reset after Skype install before launching it.
I was doing some reading on another website and came across this article
http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/01/at-so-sell-them-already/
what it basically says is that AT&T will be making a move to Data only service because they have seen a decrease in cellular service (Voice and TXT) if this happens do you think that other carriers will fallow? could this be why LTE is so important?
What do you think??
I could see this happening. The next step from LTE is VoLTE (voice over LTE) which could easily be data only
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I think this will become a trend at some point in the future. However, until you get good Internet speeds no matter where you are, voice and SMS will remain popular and carriers will try to keep their earnings as high as possible (by selling products that offer the highest profits). That of course includes voice and SMS services. But once that hurdle is taken, we will likely see data only plans and all carriers will offer them.
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I think this will become a trend at some point in the future. However, until you get good Internet speeds no matter where you are, voice and SMS will remain popular and carriers will try to keep their earnings as high as possible (by selling products that offer the highest profits). That of course includes voice and SMS services. But once that hurdle is taken, we will likely see data only plans and all carriers will offer them.
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This is why I think LTE is so important to them..you know?
LTE is a gimmick. Voice calls are possible over H+ too and messages use even less data. LTE is built to allow faster surfing/downloading and will make data intensive services like video calling more accessible to the general public.
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I was doing some reading on another website and came across this article
http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/01/at-so-sell-them-already/
what it basically says is that AT&T will be making a move to Data only service because they have seen a decrease in cellular service (Voice and TXT) if this happens do you think that other carriers will fallow? could this be why LTE is so important?
What do you think??
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And so it begins. Please read...http://pocketnow.com/2012/07/18/att...lans-for-households-full-of-smartphone-users/
This direction is neither new nor surprising for the telecom business.
In fact here the national postal service and telecom provider (one company) is massively investing in fibre-to-the-home (full coverage by 2015 expected) since that's the only way they see out of dwindling amounts of phone calls and postal services.
Attempts of the carriers to sell premium features on internet-based contents (such as the 3G multicasting for portable TV, MMS, ...) all failed because users didn't want to pay the overprized features when it's possible to get it for a split-prize through other means.
Hi friends Flyer users,
i am planing to go on Hollidays to Florida - Miami and ofc taking mine Flyer with me lol.
Question is will GPS work (i live in Europe)? I seen some diferent files to be flashed depending on where u live for GPS lock. Cant find the post atm thow.
Also for posible recomendation - any good pre paid sim cards (dont need data plan just talks for me and mine wife so we can easy talk to each other when we are there)
Many thx!
Maybe try the app faster fix. With regards to sim I cant help I am in New York.
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jprednik said:
Question is will GPS work (i live in Europe)? I seen some diferent files to be flashed depending on where u live for GPS lock. Cant find the post atm thow.
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GPS files just allow for faster initial lock. It should work fine without. It might take a minute or 2 to get an initial lock once you first get here (not unusual when you make a big locational change while the GPS is off).
Keep in mind that GPS only supplies latitude, longitude and (approximate) elevation data. Maps, directions, etc. come from a mapping or navigation software (but people sometimes use the term "GPS" interchangeably with map/navigation software, which is confusing). For instance, with Google Maps you will either need to cache the map sections you will be using, or need to have an active data connection to stream the map data. Of course, if you have purchased 3rd party navigation software where the maps are stored on the SD card, then that is not an issue.
Have never used a pre-paid SIM in the states. So my experience is limited to my knowledge of the post-paid accounts (contract) in the US. AT&T and T-Mobile are the major GSM carriers in the US, with a variety of smaller "regional" carriers that typically just purchase bandwidth from AT&T or T-Mobile. I believe AT&T blocks the use tablets as voice call devices (on the cell network, internet call solutions such as Skype work fine), so T-Mobile (or a regional carrier that uses T-Mob's network) may be your best bet. I think T-Mobile supports voice on tablets, but I'm not sure of that.
Of course, your tablet will need to be SIM-unlocked.
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Hi friends Flyer users,
i am planing to go on Hollidays to Florida - Miami and ofc taking mine Flyer with me lol.
Question is will GPS work (i live in Europe)? I seen some diferent files to be flashed depending on where u live for GPS lock. Cant find the post atm thow.
Also for posible recomendation - any good pre paid sim cards (dont need data plan just talks for me and mine wife so we can easy talk to each other when we are there)
Many thx!
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Hi jprednik,
What you're going to want to do is modify your GPS.conf (this can be done with a market app). This file essentially tells the device what GPS maps server to use for faster locks. There are several servers for north america. I would download an app that allows you to switch those servers, or if you're brave enough (it's really not difficult, it's a text file) you can edit the server list yourself. You may want to verify that there are no GPS configuration settings in your build.prop too. You can pull the GPS server settings straight from the US Galaxy nexus system dumps if you want. That will give you the proper address google uses for GPS servers. Hope you enjoy Florida, from a Virginian.
Oh and as for prepaid...I think, don't quote me on this, you'll have good luck with StraightTalk wireless. They use AT&T bands, the largest GSM network in the US. Hope this helps!
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Oh and as for prepaid...I think, don't quote me on this, you'll have good luck with StraightTalk wireless. They use AT&T bands, the largest GSM network in the US. Hope this helps!
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As far as I know, AT&T does not allow voice calls on tablets. You might be able to get it to work by modifying build.prop or some other mod. But out of the box, I don't think it will.
Straight Talk gives you the option of picking either the AT&T SIM or a T-Mobile SIM. So Straight Talk may still be a good option. Lots of folks here seem to like the service, with reasonable prices, and widely available at Walmart stores (which are quite common in many places in the US).
Thx for the info.
To sum it up: if i leave mine flyer as it is, ill be able to get GPS lock in States. I ofc have igo app and maps instaled for states. It will onlly take a bit longer to aquire the satelites. I can modify Flyer in order to get faster lock.
Secondly; there are pre paid sim card posibilities (i got some info there r non).
Thats great news, tyvm.
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To sum it up: if i leave mine flyer as it is, ill be able to get GPS lock in States. I ofc have igo app and maps instaled for states. It will onlly take a bit longer to aquire the satelites. I can modify Flyer in order to get faster lock.
Secondly; there are pre paid sim card posibilities (i got some info there r non).
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I'd say that's a pretty good summary. I've taken my Flyer and also my HTC phone (One X) to various locations in Europe and Middle East, and never had any issue with GPS getting a lock, and never flashed any extra files.
Initial GPS lock may take a couple minutes when you first arrive in the US, as I mentioned. Its just the GPS system having trouble resolving what part of the world you are in, if it has changed drastically while the GPS is off. Ensure you have a clear view of a majority of the sky, and just let the GPS do its thing for a few minutes, and you should be fine. Then every time you use the GPS after that, the lock should happen much faster (10-20 sec). Being connected to a WiFi network may also help get that initial lock much faster (not sure if igo can read you location from WiFi networks, but Google Maps will).
Prepaid SIMs are certainly available. But just not as convenient or widespread as other parts of the world. And may also be a bit more expensive than you are used to. Its just the way the telcom industry works in the US. I've been to lots of places in Europe and Asia, where you can just walk up to a telcom vendor in the airport once you arrive. Its not like that in the US. You will have to go to a T-Mobile, or similar cell phone retail location. Or go to a Walmart store, and go to the cell phone department and ask about Straight Talk. Either way is pretty common, just not as widespread as getting a prepaid SIM in some other parts of the world.
Also keep in mind that 2 of the major cell carriers in the US (Sprint and Verizon, as well as a number of smaller "regional" carrier) don't even operate on GSM (they use CDMA), so cell phone stores (and networks) will be useless to you.
jprednik said:
Thx for the info.
To sum it up: if i leave mine flyer as it is, ill be able to get GPS lock in States. I ofc have igo app and maps instaled for states. It will onlly take a bit longer to aquire the satelites. I can modify Flyer in order to get faster lock.
Secondly; there are pre paid sim card posibilities (i got some info there r non).
Thats great news, tyvm.
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T-Mobile doesn't care what device you're using on a pre-paid SIM. You'll even get HSPA speeds depending on the coverage. I have a 3g Flyer on a T-Mobile prepaid SIM and I've not run into anything I cant do that works properly on a regular SIM-based phone. I'm running LeeDroid GB ROM, by the by.
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T-Mobile doesn't care what device you're using on a pre-paid SIM. You'll even get HSPA speeds depending on the coverage. I have a 3g Flyer on a T-Mobile prepaid SIM and I've not run into anything I cant do that works properly on a regular SIM-based phone.
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Good info. One thing to note, however: HSPA speeds will only be obtained if the device is compatible with the AWS 3G band; or on the 1900 Mhz band in select markets (since those are the bands that the T-Mobile HSPA network functions on). Otherwise, the OP will only have EDGE speed. But it sounds like he just wants to use it for GSM voice calls, anyway.
Many thx to all. Yes realy voice calls will be priority i am sure ill be able to find some opened wifis in Miami for conection to the data world. And yea gps comes in hqndy when u try to find things.
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My better half caught me looking at the Xperia z ultra. She surprised me with a c6833 model. It should be here the end of the week.
We are over-the-road truck drivers running the lower 48 states. Our phones are on Verizon. I do a lot of calling to book loads and Internet searches. I do some streaming of music and video.
Can I move my Verizon sim card to the new phone? I know I will not get LTE service from Verizon. What I can't find is the simplest questions . Will the phone even make calls, text or MMS? Can I get other Internet service that is non-LTE? Can I connect to my wife's hotspot to get LTE Internet? I may have to get a T-Mobile account, but if there are work arounds I would rather not.
I know around here these are basic questions but if you are going to learn to count to 10, you have to learn how to count to 3 first.
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My better half caught me looking at the Xperia z ultra. She surprised me with a c6833 model. It should be here the end of the week.
We are over-the-road truck drivers running the lower 48 states. Our phones are on Verizon. I do a lot of calling to book loads and Internet searches. I do some streaming of music and video.
Can I move my Verizon sim card to the new phone? I know I will not get LTE service from Verizon. What I can't find is the simplest questions . Will the phone even make calls, text or MMS? Can I get other Internet service that is non-LTE? Can I connect to my wife's hotspot to get LTE Internet? I may have to get a T-Mobile account, but if there are work arounds I would rather not.
I know around here these are basic questions but if you are going to learn to count to 10, you have to learn how to count to 3 first.
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Yes , u can get internet service with non-LTE. You will be gettin Wifi-Connection when you connect to Wife's Hotspot. Data Transfer would be faster cause as you said your Wife has LTE.
Truck505766 said:
My better half caught me looking at the Xperia z ultra. She surprised me with a c6833 model. It should be here the end of the week.
We are over-the-road truck drivers running the lower 48 states. Our phones are on Verizon. I do a lot of calling to book loads and Internet searches. I do some streaming of music and video.
Can I move my Verizon sim card to the new phone? I know I will not get LTE service from Verizon. What I can't find is the simplest questions . Will the phone even make calls, text or MMS? Can I get other Internet service that is non-LTE? Can I connect to my wife's hotspot to get LTE Internet? I may have to get a T-Mobile account, but if there are work arounds I would rather not.
I know around here these are basic questions but if you are going to learn to count to 10, you have to learn how to count to 3 first.
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C6833 - LTE for T-Mobile
C6806 - LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T
C6802 - 3G for all networks
So even thought you have the single band LTE device, you will still get 3G coverage and data/ downloads. You will also be able to connect to your wife's hotspot and get LTE that way. But wont be as fast as LTE through a provider as its piggybacking.
I would suggest getting a T-Mobile account. (if they have coverage for where you will be)
hamdogg said:
C6833 - LTE for T-Mobile
C6806 - LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T
C6802 - 3G for all networks
So even thought you have the single band LTE device, you will still get 3G coverage and data/ downloads. You will also be able to connect to your wife's hotspot and get LTE that way. But wont be as fast as LTE through a provider as its piggybacking.
I would suggest getting a T-Mobile account. (if they have coverage for where you will be)
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The problem with the "where you are" plan is we drive 1000+ miles per day. We have no idea where that would be. So as long as I can make the call part work and there is a work around for the interest, I'm happy. The super big screen when viewing load details will far out weigh some of the small draw backs like no LTE or having to connect to a hotspot. We drive for me hours in some states where we don't even have basic phone service.
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The problem with the "where you are" plan is we drive 1000+ miles per day. We have no idea where that would be. So as long as I can make the call part work and there is a work around for the interest, I'm happy. The super big screen when viewing load details will far out weigh some of the small draw backs like no LTE or having to connect to a hotspot. We drive for me hours in some states where we don't even have basic phone service.
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yeah I know what you mean. I travel a lot of part of my job, and often I have zero reception too. You'll be happy with your version of the Ultra. wifi hotspots will be the best choice and other than that 3G will suffice.. :good: or nothing...
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yeah I know what you mean. I travel a lot of part of my job, and often I have zero reception too. You'll be happy with your version of the Ultra. wifi hotspots will be the best choice and other than that 3G will suffice.. :good: or nothing...
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While I'm not a cheap SOB, okay I am, if it gets to bad I'll pay up for an account at T-Mobile, but why if I don't really have to?
Thanks everyone. While I can find info down to the glue it's stuck together with I couldn't find the basics of can I call home on it. I'll bet I can find somewhere if ET can phone home with it.
hi community, i got my usa version of 1 iv and worked with mint-mobile (using t-mobile's network) to connect/activate. Calling/word text worked fine (image via text did not work), but no internet/data connection over 5g/LTE while browsing. Tech support could not get it working and escalated ... wondering if anyone would know how/what could be done. Thx!!
You must be missing the APN config on your device for TMobile. also, check if mobile data is enabled.
Here is T-Mobile info on how to setup Tmobile USA APN:
Tutorials | T-Mobile Support
Not related to the post (getting T-Mobile service) on any of the Asian firmwares at the moment.
I flashed the Euro, US firmwares and no signal at all. The radio power in hidden menu shows as off.
Does anyone know if crossflashing with this model also flashes the radio modem?
Seems to have worked naturally for Xperia 1 II and Xperia 1 III.
Not sure why this doesn't work now aside from intentionally restricting the phone to the intended region model.
Mine is XQ-CT72 global version on US T-Mobil.
I'm getting 800+, but US version should be better because of better band selection.
Mine goes that fast only certain places.
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hi community, i got my usa version of 1 iv and worked with mint-mobile (using t-mobile's network) to connect/activate. Calling/word text worked fine (image via text did not work), but no internet/data connection over 5g/LTE while browsing. Tech support could not get it working and escalated ... wondering if anyone would know how/what could be done. Thx!!
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I own the USA variant of the phone and I have absolutely no issues with 5G data nor wi-fi. The only issues I am experiencing is the fact that voice over Wi-Fi has not been provisioned. Coincidentally my phone also tells me within engineering mode that video over Wi-Fi is also not implemented. Sony wants to point the finger at T-Mobile and T-Mobile wants to point the finger at Sony.
Other than that I love this phone.
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You must be missing the APN config on your device for TMobile. also, check if mobile data is enabled.
Here is T-Mobile info on how to setup Tmobile USA APN:
Tutorials | T-Mobile Support
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I have the correct APN that you mentioned and still no luck for voice over Wi-Fi. I spent over half an hour with a T-Mobile troubleshooting technician and she was not able to remedy the scenario. They have created a trouble ticket and forwarded up the food chain. They claim you will take about 3 days for them to get back to me so cross your fingers (VoWifi).
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I have the correct APN that you mentioned and still no luck for voice over Wi-Fi. I spent over half an hour with a T-Mobile troubleshooting technician and she was not able to remedy the scenario. They have created a trouble ticket and forwarded up the food chain. They claim you will take about 3 days for them to get back to me so cross your fingers (VoWifi).
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Ah, that is a different question. that means you are able to get data and your problem is only with VoWiFi which is expected. your original post question was totally different.
Sony blocks TMO VoWiFi in their software by blocking the network code in their settings. You will never get VoWiFi with Sony and TMO together unless you root and hack your sony build settings to enable it.
Your next best option is to move to GoogleFi that uses TMO network and you will be able to get the full VoWiFi service there since it has different network code.
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Ah, that is a different question. that means you are able to get data and your problem is only with VoWiFi which is expected. your original post question was totally different.
Sony blocks TMO VoWiFi in their software by blocking the network code in their settings. You will never get VoWiFi with Sony and TMO together unless you root and hack your sony build settings to enable it.
Your next best option is to move to GoogleFi that uses TMO network and you will be able to get the full VoWiFi service there since it has different network code.
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Rats. I've been looking to upgrade from my Note 10+ on T-Mobile, and the Xperia 1 IV looked promising, but VoWiFi being nerfed is a non-starter for my needs. Curse the manufacturers for moving away from expandable storage!
T-Mobile basically did a bunch of farting around and could not provision Wi-Fi calling on my phone. I have confirmed from at least three people on XDA developers that the workaround is to jump on board with Google fi since they do support Wi-Fi calling provisioning.... Or somehow root your phone and find an engineering workaround.
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T-Mobile basically did a bunch of farting around and could not provision Wi-Fi calling on my phone. I have confirmed from at least three people on XDA developers that the workaround is to jump on board with Google fi since they do support Wi-Fi calling provisioning.... Or somehow root your phone and find an engineering workaround.
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It is Still a good attempt from TMO to try to help, It is really not TMO fault here as nothing they can do. Sony is at fault blocking TMO network code in their VoWiFi software.
Sony has decided to block this service from the second largest US carrier, wondering why Sony sales not picking up in the US
seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
kinggo2 said:
seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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Since WCDMA and GSM are sunset, if you want to call someone or receive calls with your phone, you need VoLTE or VoNR. TG and Whatsapp are not that popular in the US, and imagine someone wanting to use their phone as a phone....
well, I get that. We still have 3G and GSM. And every time I work on new rollout things are more and more complicated because of all generations are still in use. Connecting to a unknown wifi every time seems very not practical and if it is not opened public network (which again is not great) how does that work then? I get it if you are at home/family/friends but my question is more like, no cell signal, jut some random wifi. To me it looks more like a patch then an actual service/solution for the lack of cell signal. Or is that something that you really can rely on?
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seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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The issue is when I'm in my local public supermarket there is no T-Mobile coverage in the building. There is Wi-Fi and I do use Google meet and other apps over Wi-Fi but if someone calls my phone number my phone will not receive the call. That is the point.
Someone would have to actually know that I'm in a no coverage area and utilize one of those other apps to reach me. If not businesses, job offers, local businesses that don't know me personally, someone new that I've met etc etc would never get through to me and I would eventually receive some type of voicemail message indication. That is unacceptable when you have children and other family members and friends that need to get in contact with you immediately.
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but if someone calls my phone number my phone will not receive the call. That is the point.
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Exactly the point, your phone number is the primary way many reach you. if your phone does not have any 3G\4G\5G coverage, then WiFi might be your only other option that gives people the ability to call you directly with your phone.
OK, but who provides wifi? I get that is is just a voip, but you still need internet connection. So instead of cellular it uses wifi.
Here, in many big business buildings or malls we have indoor base stations, sometimes it is combo indoor and out door. Indoor usually is set up as MIMO so all of the providers share the same indoor infrastructure.
Also, many of public places have a wifi but since we are covered with cell signal, nobody really cares about it. Mostly because you can't just connect to it. you need a pass from your bus ticket or your bill in bars or are greeted with front page of the mall that wants you to register and so on. So using wifi here is PITA, that's why I wonder how all that works there and why is it such a big deal.
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OK, but who provides wifi? I get that is is just a voip, but you still need internet connection. So instead of cellular it uses wifi.
Here, in many big business buildings or malls we have indoor base stations, sometimes it is combo indoor and out door. Indoor usually is set up as MIMO so all of the providers share the same indoor infrastructure.
Also, many of public places have a wifi but since we are covered with cell signal, nobody really cares about it. Mostly because you can't just connect to it. you need a pass from your bus ticket or your bill in bars or are greeted with front page of the mall that wants you to register and so on. So using wifi here is PITA, that's why I wonder how all that works there and why is it such a big deal.
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There are many places that I have frequented where cellular data and cellular calling will not go through. In those places Wi-Fi is available. While you can use WhatsApp and other individual applications to make video calls and even voice calls you will not be able to receive native incoming calls when someone calls your regular phone number nor will you be able to use your native dialer to make a regular phone call if Wi-Fi calling is not provisioned on your phone. Unfortunately our phones do not get provisioned for T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling apparently due to some issue between the Sony and T-Mobile. So by switching to another carrier or mvno, Wi-Fi calling will be enabled reportedly.
UPDATE: Switched to Google Fi.... Problem solved. Wi-Fi calling now enabled.
That part I get, but still don't know which wifi do you use for that. For mobile network, there is a SIM that handles the connection between cells. Phones can't connect to any available wifi, right. So..... I get what it is, but as someone who works on cell towers installations and from perspective of wifi networks here and my knowledge I still don't get which wifi do you use in that case.
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That part I get, but still don't know which wifi do you use for that. For mobile network, there is a SIM that handles the connection between cells. Phones can't connect to any available wifi, right. So..... I get what it is, but as someone who works on cell towers installations and from perspective of wifi networks here and my knowledge I still don't get which wifi do you use in that case.
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It can work on any Wi-Fi network that has adequate bandwidth. I can go to my local Publix supermarket....no cellular signal in there: I turn my WiFi on, I can make/receive calls with the native phone dialer. No cellular tower needed.
Even tested this at home.... I turned Airplane mode on, then afterwards I ONLY turn wi-fi on.... Calls can be made/received.