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Yesterday i bought a HTC Hero (my first one). When i turned it on and toke a good look at the starting screen (the one that says Hero, and HTC), i found a white pixel, probably dead or something. I went back to the store to get a new phone. This was not a problem at all and i got a new Hero. Now again, when i turned on the phone and toke a good look at the black screen, i also found 2 pixels with a other wierd problem:
The pixels also turned out white when i looked at them in a specifica angle. Just to be clear, i am watching on a black screen (starting screen). If you look at the screen and not in a specific angle i cant spot the pixels directly, but when i tilt over the phone slightly they show up and are 2 little white dots.
After i found out i downloaded the Detect Dead Pixel app. This app can create a black screen, the same screen as the home screen. When i use this app to spot the pixels again they are way less visible than on the home screen... I can spot 1 of them a little bit if i look at the screen in a certain angle and i can see a little dot, but i cant see them that good as on the home screen. They are not visible on other colors, only black.
I really dont know what to do with the phone now ... does anyone know what this is? im a bit concerned. Thanks!
After a bit more research on my phone i firugred that the dots really arent that visible. Maybe its just dust under the screen? When i put on a black screen using some kind of Android app i can not spot them. If the pixel is lazy or dead it should be clearly visible on a black screen right? for the lazy one then.
Anyway, i spotted a other problem on a black screen:
A brighter spot on the top part of the screen (like someone is pressing on it a little bit). Is this a problem ? im deciding if i should return the phone again..
Well its entirely upto you mate - i dont know what contract you've taken out but you may have that phone for 2 years. If your not entirely happy with it i'd take it back while you still can.
Issues with the screens rarely correct themselves.
My first Hero had around 10 dead pixels and i got it replaced as i wasn't happy with it. I now have one with a perfect screen and i'm really happy with it!
Well i just returned to the store and got another phone. This is the 3th one, and it still has problems, even more then the previous ones ....
On the boot screen there are about 10 very very tiny white wierd points visible ... im getting a bit frustrated here. What is this with all the screen problems ? :S
looks like they got a bad batch in your shop... have you considered powering up the phone while you are still in the store? might save you same time and way...
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looks like they got a bad batch in your shop... have you considered powering up the phone while you are still in the store? might save you same time and way...
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I have done that, but as i said, its only really visible in a dark room with screen brightness on 100%. I have checked the phone in the store and it just wasnt visible. When i checked the screen in a complete dark room i spotted the little things again. Looks more like dust to me =\
If your brightness is 100% you should see that one single pixel immediately.
Try making an image in paint (480*320) with a black background and a single white pixel. Open that image on your phone. The dead/lazy pixel should be just as bright as the one you drew.
Also the brighter spot is normal. It's called "backlight bleeding". Every lcd screen has this 'problem'.
They are not clearly visible, i think they are smaller then pixels, but they are countable on the bootup screen. When i tilt the screen them seem to change color (might just be dust). Green etc. I dont know what to think of it, come on. A wrong batch shouldn't be the problem if its dust, then its just a assamblation error. But 3 in a row?
I'm getting a bit pissed
It's dust or a fingerprint blocking a very small subpixel. Can't you just wipe it off? But I suspect very tiny scratches.
idk whether this is possible, but it might be dead subpixels. that would explain why they are smaller than a full pixel...
Does anyone know if that is possible? it sounds like a good explaination. Dead sub pixels could be the problem. They are smaller then pixels, but beg enough to be counted (i can count over 13). Little white dots on a 100% brightness black screen.
It must be dust, its a common question among hero owners. Most of the time the things they see is dust. It would be crazy if all new hero's have up to 10 or 13 dead pixels.
Ok well, here's what happened next:
I returned my phone again, god my cash back, bought a new one at a other store, SAME problem. Swapped it for a new one again, same problem!
Got my money back and i completely changed my mind of buying a Hero.
It is not dust. Its a perfect white dot, and definately some kind of pixel issue.
To bad..
Are you sure you're not being pixel-paranoid?
When reading all of this it sounds mostly like small dust particles under the screen. And looking at the number of phones you have tried, chances are you also got one with a real dead pixel (hot pixel, always on).
But I also think you are obsessed about it. My phone also have one dust thingy somewhere which I found just like you did (pixel tester, black screen). Smaller than pixel and less bright though.
I never notice the thing under normal use, unless I really go searching for it with a black background.
So you might make it bigger than it really is and miss out on a really nice phone.
Then again, we all have our own quality standards and its good yours is a high one!
I have had a tiny dead pizel since I bought my phone. Only really see it on the bootscreen.
I was always more bother by the light you can see coming from under the keys at the bottom and near where the lcd meets the keys.
I also have 3 dead pixels but they aren't that irritating.
I also discovered them when booting up the phone, but for me, they are sea blue (all three)
Maybe it is 2nd hand stuff HTC uses on their phones?
i have about 7 or 8 dead pixels too. it doesn't bother me too much anymore... only notice it in a completly dark room on the boot up screen... probably a common problem with the lcd screen the hero uses
All Hero's have this, or will have it inevitably:
The screen does not connect fully; there is a rubber-border between the glass and the metal frame surrounding the screen.
Look from the right angle, and you can see that there is a small 1/10th mm opening. Dust will come through here, and it will get on the screen.
HTC will wipe it off free of charge of course.
It is NOT a dead pixel; these can be seen from any angle, although the color changes a little but because of the viewing angle.
Call HTC and say you have dust under your screen, they will fix it for you, free of charge.
My wife broke her screen on Friday and we went to a local shop to get the screen fixed yesterday.
This morning she mentioned that she thought the color on the new screen was different. She also pointed out that the buttons at the bottom didn't light up the same.
They practically don't light up at all.
The screen seems a bit dimmer as well. Not as bright and clear.
Is there any way that I can find out what kind of screen they put in her phone short of threatening to bulldoze the shop unless they put the right screen in?
I'm more than capable of dissasembling the phone without killing it and now wish I had but wifey wanted a working phone *today*
Can anyone help out? Are there any part numbers I can use to see what she's got now?
can you take a picture of the phone from upwards, and from sideways (to see if the screen is thicker than it should be)
sounds like it's a regular LCD screen
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can you take a picture of the phone from upwards, and from sideways (to see if the screen is thicker than it should be)
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not without taking it apart first
You can tell if its LCD by how deep the blacks are.
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michaelh99 said:
My wife broke her screen on Friday and we went to a local shop to get the screen fixed yesterday.
This morning she mentioned that she thought the color on the new screen was different. She also pointed out that the buttons at the bottom didn't light up the same.
They practically don't light up at all.
The screen seems a bit dimmer as well. Not as bright and clear.
Is there any way that I can find out what kind of screen they put in her phone short of threatening to bulldoze the shop unless they put the right screen in?
I'm more than capable of dissasembling the phone without killing it and now wish I had but wifey wanted a working phone *today*
Can anyone help out? Are there any part numbers I can use to see what she's got now?
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definitely got shafted. you got an LCD screen. i'm pretty sure the local shop orders their parts from eBay or some chinese supplier. those screens are usually LCD even tho some may claim its amoled. the only way to get a genuine Super AMOLED screen is to contact samsung to replace it. i remember reading somewhere than samsung is not distributing their Super AMOLED screens to 3rd parties
michaelh99 said:
My wife broke her screen on Friday and we went to a local shop to get the screen fixed yesterday.
This morning she mentioned that she thought the color on the new screen was different. She also pointed out that the buttons at the bottom didn't light up the same.
They practically don't light up at all.
The screen seems a bit dimmer as well. Not as bright and clear.
Is there any way that I can find out what kind of screen they put in her phone short of threatening to bulldoze the shop unless they put the right screen in?
I'm more than capable of dissasembling the phone without killing it and now wish I had but wifey wanted a working phone *today*
Can anyone help out? Are there any part numbers I can use to see what she's got now?
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I used to be a cellphone technician for a short time and I can tell you that we fixed screens on a lot of touch screen phones... but all the parts are dirt cheap chinese knockoffs!!! There is NO local shop that uses original OEM parts!!! unless u send it back to tmobile or etc!
to answer short and accurate u didnt get the same screen ur vibrant came with!
^$%#
Now I really feel like a total idiot
For those of you who've replaced your screens either DIY or via LG warranty replacement...please post how your screen quality and viewing angles compare to the original LCD.
I'll start...
1. On my Current G2, I had a perfect screen. Perfect viewing angles and excellent image quality with no defects
2. Ebay Replacement screen #1 had dead pixels and Mira lines.
3. Ebay replacement screen # 2 had horrible color. Almost black and white
4. Amazon replacement screen has great color & image quality but lesser degree of viewing angles.
It's hard to explain but easy to compare to other G2s and phones when you compare side by side.
After all these screen swaps in the last couple months I've decided to keep this screen and use the phone as is.
How does your replacement screen compare to the original one?
I got LG performed a "total refurbished" when I dropped and shattered my screen.
It came back and looked like new, no difference to the original.
After a shattered screen i got it replaced.two months waoting time.now have jdi panel but brightness is very low and have lots of screen bleed around the edges.the repairman did not do a good job but the panel itself is of lower quality.color and contrast ok but luminosity is about 70%of the original...not happy but no money for yet another panel...
Conclusion:dont drop the phone...
After having touch screen issues on my phone (no-touch zone, ghost touches), I bought a replacement screen for my D800 off eBay.
Got it replaced and so far, the quality (colours, brightness, touch accuracy) is very good. I'd say the screen is slightly more yellow than my original screen but it's by no means an issue.
The screen I got for my "new" Z3, is full of problems. It has press marks(areas on the screen which appear brighter/whiter) and the screen "flickers" on high brightness. My friend can't see it well, but I can very clearly see the screen going bright->dark->bright->dark slightly and very quickly.
Dropped mine and got it replaced at a cheap place in Bangkok.
Colours are the same, viewing angles are not as good, but
those doesn't matter to me.
Been 2 months dropped phone again, screen shattert again...
Biggest supprise: Touch is still working perfectly! Seems like the cheap replacement screen doesn't have the NoGap technology like the original ones haha. Seems like win win to me!
laboratik said:
After a shattered screen i got it replaced.two months waoting time.now have jdi panel but brightness is very low and have lots of screen bleed around the edges.the repairman did not do a good job but the panel itself is of lower quality.color and contrast ok but luminosity is about 70%of the original...not happy but no money for yet another panel...
Conclusion:dont drop the phone...
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Thanks for the responses guys and sorry to hear about your screens.
Made a new poll. Please participate.
I'm trying to make a case that there are different versions of LCD panels made by different manufacturers.
They don't advertise which is which but we're starting to notice now that we're having out screens replaced.
I replaced my LG D800 screen with one from Amazon and the colors are slightly darker but other than that no big deal. I didn't do a good job with the replacement so there is definite light bleed on the edges and after four months of using it im getting ghost touches if I press on the lower portion of the screen. Don't think it's quite worth the $80 replacement to try again and get it right, just something I'll deal with until a new phone comes out and I can get it replaced all together.
Similar experience to laboratik except the repair was done at LG so the workmanship is good. But it is jdi panel and darker than the original.
Thank you guys for the responses. This thread should be helpful to others in our same situation.
The sad fact is that the market is flooded with aftermarket screens made by who knows.
Just compared my screen with the S6 Edge and have to say I'm very impressed with the image and color on this replacement screen however that's where the buck stops.
The reduced viewing angles are tolerable at best. I'd hate to remove this replacement screen send it back all over again...roll, dice pray I get a perfect match but unless I'm removing it from a G2 myself I'm starting to believe it's not likely it'll happen.
Check out this review on Amazon re: the screen I have.
This guy nails my current situation
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/..._dp_cr?cursor=3&qid=1428191059&sort=rd&sr=8-1
tiguy99 said:
For those of you who've replaced your screens either DIY or via LG warranty replacement...please post how your screen quality and viewing angles compare to the original LCD.
I'll start...
1. On my Current G2, I had a perfect screen. Perfect viewing angles and excellent image quality with no defects
2. Ebay Replacement screen #1 had dead pixels and Mira lines.
3. Ebay replacement screen # 2 had horrible color. Almost black and white
4. Amazon replacement screen has great color & image quality but lesser degree of viewing angles.
It's hard to explain but easy to compare to other G2s and phones when you compare side by side.
After all these screen swaps in the last couple months I've decided to keep this screen and use the phone as is.
How does your replacement screen compare to the original one?
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I got a few of them from eBay, I can link you the buyer if you want, I've sold them and they are close to OEM, they only have one MAJOR flaw, they are thicker. While you'd think this wouldn't be an issue, they are thick enough to not be able to slip into most cases, so it's annoying.
http://www.ebay.com/usr/wholesaleblimited?_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2754
That's the ebay seller I use for replacement parts.
So far the screens have been OEM quality( G2, GPro, AHD) I've bought a few from there, and they all have great quality, except for the thickness, they all seem to be thicker, this is probably due to it not being real gorilla glass, and just a knock off lol.
it looks like my replacement screen for LG service center has slightly lower sunlight legibility than original,
I dont know which panel is this, but brightness is reduced
sameerm02 said:
it looks like my replacement screen for LG service center has slightly lower sunlight legibility than original,
I dont know which panel is this, but brightness is reduced
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After removing the Amazon screen and reinstalling the original one, I notice the Amazon one has slightly higher ppi/contrast with a smoother looking picture....WTH
Now if I can have that with the original screen's viewing angles I'd be golden....
Oh well....time to pack it back and return it back...will report back shortly
sjk971005 said:
After having touch screen issues on my phone (no-touch zone, ghost touches), I bought a replacement screen for my D800 off eBay.
Got it replaced and so far, the quality (colours, brightness, touch accuracy) is very good. I'd say the screen is slightly more yellow than my original screen but it's by no means an issue.
The screen I got for my "new" Z3, is full of problems. It has press marks(areas on the screen which appear brighter/whiter) and the screen "flickers" on high brightness. My friend can't see it well, but I can very clearly see the screen going bright->dark->bright->dark slightly and very quickly.
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strange, that happens to me also, totally stock phone, no replacements at all
sent from the grey stuff inside my skull
Silentwidow said:
I got a few of them from eBay, I can link you the buyer if you want, I've sold them and they are close to OEM, they only have one MAJOR flaw, they are thicker. While you'd think this wouldn't be an issue, they are thick enough to not be able to slip into most cases, so it's annoying.
That's the ebay seller I use for replacement parts.
So far the screens have been OEM quality( G2, GPro, AHD) I've bought a few from there, and they all have great quality, except for the thickness, they all seem to be thicker, this is probably due to it not being real gorilla glass, and just a knock off lol.
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I bougth several screens from that seller... but with frame... i have not noticed about the "thicker".
But, is not just knock off, my screens has knock on... I think you have to run the "update touch menu" in service menu...
Hye guys. Im sorry if im in the wrong thread. Right now im in need for lg g2 d802 lcd full assembly replacement but im in tight budget right now. I can afford max for 60 bucks. ( im still depressed about losing my job though lol ) I've found several replacement at ebay from China that is under my budget but im in doubt if it is quality enough to be acceptable to be use in this great phone? I've heard about "crazy touch" issue too so im afraid if im not lucky enough to get one of those. Anyone here have experienced with these full lcd assembly from ebay? I would like to know if all those claim are true or not.
Anyway this is one im talking about - http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/301568732266?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
kopter36 said:
Hye guys. Im sorry if im in the wrong thread. Right now im in need for lg g2 d802 lcd full assembly replacement but im in tight budget right now. I can afford max for 60 bucks. ( im still depressed about losing my job though lol ) I've found several replacement at ebay from China that is under my budget but im in doubt if it is quality enough to be acceptable to be use in this great phone? I've heard about "crazy touch" issue too so im afraid if im not lucky enough to get one of those. Anyone here have experienced with these full lcd assembly from ebay? I would like to know if all those claim are true or not.
Anyway this is one im talking about - http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/301568732266?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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That one almost certainly looks like it will be a low quality replacement you will be unhappy with.
My personal opinion, if you want a full frame screen replacement....at least get one with the LG logo.
Saw one on ebay for 59.00 last night. The seller claimed to test them before they ship.
Http://www.ebay.com/itm/181670823997?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Not sure which model you have but make sure you confirm with the seller before you bid
i have ordered my replacement screen with frame from etradesupply.com should be reaching me in 5 days time.. Will report back. Got it for $60.
tiguy99 said:
That one almost certainly looks like it will be a low quality replacement you will be unhappy with.
My personal opinion, if you want a full frame screen replacement....at least get one with the LG logo.
Saw one on ebay for 59.00 last night. The seller claimed to test them before they ship.
Http://www.ebay.com/itm/181670823997?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Not sure which model you have but make sure you confirm with the seller before you bid
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That one looks legit to me but i need to ask the seller first. Its going to be so many question from me. Lol.
Btw my phone model is D802.
somberi said:
i have ordered my replacement screen with frame from etradesupply.com should be reaching me in 5 days time.. Will report back. Got it for $60.
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Once you got it could you reviewed it here? I might order from etradesupply .com too.
kopter36 said:
That one looks legit to me but i need to ask the seller first. Its going to be so many question from me. Lol.
Btw my phone model is D802.
Once you got it could you reviewed it here? I might order from etradesupply .com too.
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My shipment status says expected delivery Wed, Apr 15. Hope there are no more delays. Will keep the thread posted on how the screen performs.
Hi there.
My cousin dropped his phone and completely shattered the front glass. Phone still worked fine though. Went shopping for a replacement LCD+Touch glass part and finally found a shop which charged him about 60 bucks (this included service).
The display is not terrible, but it's definitely a no-brand spare, it's darker, has a blue-ish tint to it and on top of that, it seems to run on a lower resolution. It works fine for looking at memes on social media and stuff, but text and icons look jagged. The system effectively believes it's running untouched at 1080x1920 (checked via "wm size"), but the display itself is pushing less pixels than that.
He can live with that, though, so here comes my question point for discussion: Is there any practical way to measure the actual, physical resolution of this display?
I just thought it would be nice for Android to render everything at this display's native resolution. Jagged edges wont be gone, but I'm pretty sure using appropiate graphics assets and proper density is better than whatever downscaling is happening here.
Regards.
Get a magnifying glass and count the number of physical pixels.
All jokes aside, if you're rooted you can first try figure out what panel you have with "dmesg | grep panel" in terminal.
Other than that you should go back to the store your cousin got the screen repaired and demand an explanation from them and a refund.
Attached is the output I get on my own Z2 which has a OEM display. I didn't need root for this hehe. Lets see what it looks like on his phone next time I meet with him.
I really think requesting a refund is out of the question, it's been a few weeks since the repair took place and service technicians are a PITA to deal with 'round here.
Anyhow, what I'm worried about the most is software updates on the repaired Z2. Chinese knock-off parts are known to stop working or straight out break when treated with non-factory default firmware. It's sitting on 5.1 as we speak.
Update: The replacement display works after an upgrade to M build .291, the phone is now rooted and equiped with TWRP. I'll try to run
Code:
wm size 540x960
and
Code:
wm density 240
on it and see what happens. It could very well be a half-resolution panel, or a FWVGA one, we'll see.
UPDATE #2: The display looks worse after the fact. There's no saving it haha.
you buy a stock dislay from Sony or others?
Are they jagged or actually interlacing? I got a replacement that looked jagged but then I noticed they were actually interlacing which kind of looks like every other pixel is tearing slightly.
That gave it a jagged look. So it may be the right resolution, but just a faulty LCD. I was sent a new screen on request (ebay).
Either way you should get a replacement.
i got some low res display cheap from china. it was horrific resolution.. device also crashed ala bluescreen-of-death, especially when plying blossom blast or watching fb video. i ordered a display from eu on ebay, and now i'm happy again. and so is the device.
Same here and how to make things better
Flash kcal flashable mod and then use these settings R=255
Green=250 blue=245
Saturation =65
Value=135
Contrast =135
Ok turns out he broke the display again. This second replacement actually looks great, there's little difference when compared side-by-side with my Z2. Good thing he's no longer doomed to a bad display haha.
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Flash kcal flashable mod and then use these settings R=255
Green=250 blue=245
Saturation =65
Value=135
Contrast =135
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Not sure how this is supposed to help with resolution. Perhaps it would help with the blue tint, but the stock white balance does this as well.
Da Iceman said:
Are they jagged or actually interlacing? I got a replacement that looked jagged but then I noticed they were actually interlacing which kind of looks like every other pixel is tearing slightly.
That gave it a jagged look. So it may be the right resolution, but just a faulty LCD. I was sent a new screen on request (ebay).
Either way you should get a replacement.
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Now that you mention it, that could explain the scanlines effect when looked up close.
rbrandser said:
i got some low res display cheap from china. it was horrific resolution.. device also crashed ala bluescreen-of-death, especially when plying blossom blast or watching fb video. i ordered a display from eu on ebay, and now i'm happy again. and so is the device.
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Glad to know that. Who is this "eu"? Europe? Lol I'm out of touch here. Glad to know you got a fine display.
I REALLY hope to never ever need to go through display replacement lottery.
Compared to other devices, this Xperia is not hard to repair, and there are cheap spare parts, and quality parts available from a number of EUropean sellers.
Anyway, it's Friday, good to see this forum again, it's really a nice place.
Oh yeah, my daughter after terrorizing me for years finally made me buy her an iPhone, well... I'm waiting for replacement display nr5 for this 5s in a year now. Lol.
Pixelado said:
Hi there.
My cousin dropped his phone and completely shattered the front glass. Phone still worked fine though. Went shopping for a replacement LCD+Touch glass part and finally found a shop which charged him about 60 bucks (this included service).
The display is not terrible, but it's definitely a no-brand spare, it's darker, has a blue-ish tint to it and on top of that, it seems to run on a lower resolution. It works fine for looking at memes on social media and stuff, but text and icons look jagged. The system effectively believes it's running untouched at 1080x1920 (checked via "wm size"), but the display itself is pushing less pixels than that.
He can live with that, though, so here comes my question point for discussion: Is there any practical way to measure the actual, physical resolution of this display?
I just thought it would be nice for Android to render everything at this display's native resolution. Jagged edges wont be gone, but I'm pretty sure using appropiate graphics assets and proper density is better than whatever downscaling is happening here.
Regards.
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Can you send me a link for the original replacement display?
napyaninja said:
Can you send me a link for the original replacement display?
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Sorry, he bought his display from a brick and mortar store, I have no idea where they get their parts from
I have V10 and I HAVE to have matte anti glare screen on the phone . Outside visibility on sunny day is one big ZERO ! Especially when I am trying to take picture of something all I see in the screen is my stupid face . And you know how matte screen protector affects colors on the screen . IT RUINS IT !! It helps with visibility and fingerprints but in normal use screen looks dull .
Now to my Question . How is visibility on v30 outside on sunny day without shade in sight ? I know v30 has oled screen ( Like samsung I used to have ) but still . I am curios . Don't be shy . I need more than one opinion before I commit for upgrade .
Coming from a LG G5 and a prior Samsung Galaxy S5. The daylight visibility is quite good. I still wish it was brighter though. It would be cool if it was twice as bright. I thought the LG G5 visibility sucked. There was not a cloud in the sky this past Saturaday and I could actually read the screen in the sunlight compared to my LG G5. I don't know how it will handle the Florida or Southern California sun however. I bought the LG V30 due to the cheaper price, wide-angle camera, and a 2nd year manufacturer warranty. The 2nd year manufacturer warranty pushed me over the edge over the Note 8.