support for quick charge 4.0 or 4+? - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

Guys MR Jai Mani in one of his tweets told that Poco fone supports Qualcomm quick charge 4.0.
But did say that the diffrence between 3.0 and 4.0 aren't that noticeable.
First of all wonderful to hear that it's supported.
But
1. Does anyone really know how fast does qc 4.0 work.
2. Why is this device not listed under QC 4.0 supported devices in the Qualcomm website. And any method to check if our device is supported?
Guys if anybody has any experience with qc 4.0 or may know of a way to watch a qc4.0 charging speed test, kindly provide the info.

afaik the main difference between them is more safer to charge at higher amps
https://zendure.com/blogs/reviews/whats-the-difference-between-qualcomn-quick-charge-3-0-and-4-0

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Guys MR Jai Mani in one of his tweets told that Poco fone supports Qualcomm quick charge 4.0.
But did say that the diffrence between 3.0 and 4.0 aren't that noticeable.
First of all wonderful to hear that it's supported.
But
1. Does anyone really know how fast does qc 4.0 work.
2. Why is this device not listed under QC 4.0 supported devices in the Qualcomm website. And any method to check if our device is supported?
Guys if anybody has any experience with qc 4.0 or may know of a way to watch a qc4.0 charging speed test, kindly provide the info.
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According to the manufacturer, the F1 only supports quick charge 3.0
https://www.mi.com/in/poco-f1/

denyo81 said:
According to the manufacturer, the F1 only supports quick charge 3.0
https://www.mi.com/in/poco-f1/
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Check twitter for Poco India or the posters they've been putting in the last two days, it says they support qc 4.0 and as an additional info they say Poco F1 is certified splash.

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Guys MR Jai Mani in one of his tweets told that Poco fone supports Qualcomm quick charge 4.0.
But did say that the diffrence between 3.0 and 4.0 aren't that noticeable.
First of all wonderful to hear that it's supported.
But
1. Does anyone really know how fast does qc 4.0 work.
2. Why is this device not listed under QC 4.0 supported devices in the Qualcomm website. And any method to check if our device is supported?
Guys if anybody has any experience with qc 4.0 or may know of a way to watch a qc4.0 charging speed test, kindly provide the info.
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There are no QC4.0 chargers available in the market. So for now we just settle with qc3

rahulkamma14 said:
There are no QC4.0 chargers available in the market. So for now we just settle with qc3
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I was shopping for a QC 4 charger and found this - it seems (correct me if I'm wrong) there is minimal difference between the standards.
Don't suppose anyone can recommend a decent cheap compatible fast charger for the pocophone - I guess that would be qc3. I'm terrible for losing chargers and cables so I like to have a few spares.
Are all qc3 chargers and usb-c cables created equal, or is it like microusb, where I've had some that charge well, others that barely trickle?
Any suggestions?

Does anyone know whether the global version also supports QC4+?

Does europe version have QC 4.0+ and splash resistance?

AFAIK, the F1 supports qc4 (not 4+, though the standards are minimally different) and though it has no splash proof certification, it can handle a bit of rain and even (it's claimed) a dunk (though it has lots of moisture sensors inside, so don't tempt fate)

thesoupthief said:
AFAIK, the F1 supports qc4 (not 4+, though the standards are minimally different) and though it has no splash proof certification, it can handle a bit of rain and even (it's claimed) a dunk (though it has lots of moisture sensors inside, so don't tempt fate)
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It seems pocophone f1 supports quick charge 4.0 and 4 plus as from the qualcomm device list

The qualcomm device list lists "Xiaomi Poco F1" but not "Xiaomi Pocophone F1".
Is it possible that only the Indian version supports it but not Global?

karpacha said:
The qualcomm device list lists "Xiaomi Poco F1" but not "Xiaomi Pocophone F1".
Is it possible that only the Indian version supports it but not Global?
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I don't think so. It doesnt make pratical sense.

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Redmi 3 Pro with Qualcomm Quickcharge 2.0?

Hey... Got my Redmi 3 Pro last week, this is a fantastic device!
I read a lot about it before I bought it but there is one question left: does it support Qualcomms Quickcharge 2.0?
Read about it in another forum, they couldn't give an answer. Also there is a list made by Qualcomm about the devices that support Quickcharge, there are some Xiaomi devices but no Redmi.
Is there anyone out there who can say yes or no?
Thanks
masterchief_2001 said:
Hey... Got my Redmi 3 Pro last week, this is a fantastic device!
I read a lot about it before I bought it but there is one question left: does it support Qualcomms Quickcharge 2.0?
Read about it in another forum, they couldn't give an answer. Also there is a list made by Qualcomm about the devices that support Quickcharge, there are some Xiaomi devices but no Redmi.
Is there anyone out there who can say yes or no?
Thanks
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YES
Thank you... And how much faster is it? Can you tell me your charging time?
masterchief_2001 said:
Hey... Got my Redmi 3 Pro last week, this is a fantastic device!
I read a lot about it before I bought it but there is one question left: does it support Qualcomms Quickcharge 2.0?
Read about it in another forum, they couldn't give an answer. Also there is a list made by Qualcomm about the devices that support Quickcharge, there are some Xiaomi devices but no Redmi.
Is there anyone out there who can say yes or no?
Thanks
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No.
So, yes and no like always.
Well, as far as I know, the thing is like that: the soc (snap 616) does support Qualcomm QuickCharge, but the device itself doesn't, because it isn't just about having a specific processor.. It requires also a certain level of quality in all the other components (and Redmi3, being a low end device, doesn't have it)
Redmi 3 only supports the "standard" 2A quick charge.. I have never tried checking the actual charging time.. I believe it is around 2,30 to 3 hours
Sent from my Redmi 3 using Tapatalk
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So, yes and no like always.
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What do you want? OF course it does not support! Just read about that phone before asking this question .... Do you really think it would have never been written? @volpe96 gave you a answer.
volpe96 said:
Well, as far as I know, the thing is like that: the soc (snap 616) does support Qualcomm QuickCharge, but the device itself doesn't, because it isn't just about having a specific processor.. It requires also a certain level of quality in all the other components (and Redmi3, being a low end device, doesn't have it)
Redmi 3 only supports the "standard" 2A quick charge.. I have never tried checking the actual charging time.. I believe it is around 2,30 to 3 hours
Sent from my Redmi 3 using Tapatalk
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Thanks... The phones price tag is low end, the specs are midrange. When you look what devices Qualcomm Quickcharge 2.0 support, then the Redmi 3 Pro could also support it https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
Even the bigger brother the Redmi Note 3 supports it.
@MTK6589 If you don't want to answer then let it be. I'm no noob who buys a phone, crashes it and asks in different threads how to repair it. I read a lot about the Redmi 3 Pro, but that is the only thing that wasn't clear. You're very unfriendly in my opinion, don't know why!
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Thanks... The phones price tag is low end, the specs are midrange. When you look what devices Qualcomm Quickcharge 2.0 support, then the Redmi 3 Pro could also support it https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
Even the bigger brother the Redmi Note 3 supports it.
@MTK6589 If you don't want to answer then let it be. I'm no noob who buys a phone, crashes it and asks in different threads how to repair it. I read a lot about the Redmi 3 Pro, but that is the only thing that wasn't clear. You're very unfriendly in my opinion, don't know why!
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I know the specs are midrange.. But the quality of the materials (probably) is not.. And i am talking about the USB connector, the battery, inner filaments, and so on.. Not every piece of metal is capable of tolerating a big current through it without being damaged
Sent from my Redmi 3 using Tapatalk
Could it upgrade to MiUi 9.0?

QC 2.0 or even 3.0 charging for Redmi Note 4X?

does the Redmi Note 4X (possibly with a custom ROM only?) support QC 2.0 or even 3.0 fast charging? The Snapdragon 625 "per se" does support QC 3.0 charging.
If not, does a QC 3.0 charger "hurt"/"damage" the RN4X?
Maybe if we have kernel source...
fx3000se said:
does the Redmi Note 4X (possibly with a custom ROM only?) support QC 2.0 or even 3.0 fast charging? The Snapdragon 625 "per se" does support QC 3.0 charging.
If not, does a QC 3.0 charger "hurt"/"damage" the RN4X?
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No, it won't hurt your phone. I use Anker charger which has QC 3.0 and everything works fine. It won't hurt you device because most of the chargers which supports QC, have many power outputs. For example, 5V/2A, 9/1.5A etc... In the case if your phone doesn't support QC, the charger will provide just 5V/2A, or as much Amps as the phone can take. Don't worry. When they made the chargers they made it universal and they thinked about that.
sebcio2804 said:
Maybe if we have kernel source...
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don't AospExtended and RR roms build upon the kernel sources?
fx3000se said:
don't AospExtended and RR roms build upon the kernel sources?
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FYI, those were Built with the pre-built kernel.
We need kernel sources from Xiaomi.
sachin n said:
We need kernel sources from Xiaomi.
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which we, I guess, won't be getting?
fx3000se said:
which we, I guess, won't be getting?
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We'll, as some rumors around, its pretty close to release of kernel sources for Mido.
sachin n said:
We'll, as some rumors around, its pretty close to release of kernel sources for Mido.
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It's just rumours though. Like when the guys in MIUI forum claim they got an email saying a release at end of last month
AutumQueen92 said:
It's just rumours though. Like when the guys in MIUI forum claim they got an email saying a release at end of last month
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Yep :/ let's see when we gonna get sources.

New QC provided by Mi in India

I want to know whether the new quick charge produced by Mi in India is compatabile for mido? It costs about ₹450
Adil22jaleel said:
I want to know whether the new quick charge produced by Mi in India is compatabile for mido? It costs about ₹450
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This phone does not support quick charge.
Adil22jaleel said:
I want to know whether the new quick charge produced by Mi in India is compatabile for mido? It costs about ₹450
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Unless and until you install a kernel with quick charge support, nope it's useless. And also even if u do, just rather don't get it, because the phones internals are not made to support it. :'(
MyNameIsRage said:
Unless and until you install a kernel with quick charge support, nope it's useless. And also even if u do, just rather don't get it, because the phones internals are not made to support it. :'(
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Kernel doesn't matter, Mido has hardware protection limiting charging current to 2A.
U can implement QuickCharge 4 kernel if you want, but it will still charge with 2A.

NFC??

Does the Poco F1 have NFC (at least in europe)??? I read somewhere that it doesnt have NFC, which would suck, since Google Pay just started here in Germany...
As far as we've seen specs, they all indicate it doesn't come with NFC, I guess it's a small trade they made for a cheaper phone (small for me since I don't use it)
No NFC. Read the reviews from Android Authority and GSMArena. The Verge also covered the phone.
I don't mind since there are no other SD845 phones under $399. They had to cut corners. NFC and IP cert are usually on the chopping block as far as features go...
No it does not have nfc
People in India don't need NFC. Because we barely use it. In the last five years I never used NFC. Maybe for Europe people their transport system has payments with NFC so they'll face an issue.
rahulkamma14 said:
People in India don't need NFC. Because we barely use it. In the last five years I never used NFC. Maybe for Europe people their transport system has payments with NFC so they'll face an issue.
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I never use NFC for payment. But using NFC for sending files (android beam) or transferring file from old phone to new one (if both support NFC) are pretty neat!
I am still confused. Many places say it doesn't have it but some websites (XDA included) state it does. Could someone verify?
Maybe its possible to Upgrade NFC with a NFC enabled Back Cover. WE need a tear down Video already!
The specs given initially on XDA included NFC. But it handy seems this was not correct - the post has been ammended to state "no NFC", consistent with other reports and hands-on videos I've seen.
I've never come across an external NFC device for any phone. Would be a handy device to have, though it would presumably occupy the usb-c, which in itself would be a PITA
Someone on another forum raised an interesting idea. There were the initial ideas that the F1 might have NFC. It was suggested that either the European version might have NFC or even that all versions might have NFC but that it might not be enabled in the Indian ROM.
To check this, if anyone has an F1, could they please install DevCheck from XDA or Play and just check on the hardware page to verify that NFC hardware is not present.
Thanks a million
thesoupthief said:
Someone on another forum raised an interesting idea. There were the initial ideas that the F1 might have NFC. It was suggested that either the European version might have NFC or even that all versions might have NFC but that it might not be enabled in the Indian ROM.
To check this, if anyone has an F1, could they please install DevCheck from XDA or Play and just check on the hardware page to verify that NFC hardware is not present.
Thanks a million
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Speaking of the European version, is that a thing yet? Is it possible to get my hands on that from anywhere?
Well bad news, devcheck shows no nfc hardware.
sanjay0501 said:
Well bad news, devcheck shows no nfc hardware.
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Hi Sanjay, that's the case on my Hong Kong / international version too - i think naff47 is asking about the European version (if that's different from the international one - highly doubtful I'd have thought). I read from someone in the Netherlands that it had launched there (it's available on import from China pretty much everywhere), but haven't seen this confirmed.
Time will tell
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Hi Sanjay, that's the case on my Hong Kong / international version too - i think naff47 is asking about the European version (if that's different from the international one - highly doubtful I'd have thought). I read from someone in the Netherlands that it had launched there (it's available on import from China pretty much everywhere), but haven't seen this confirmed.
Time will tell
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Hongkong probably will be made in China, whereas mine is made in India.
Not too sure if there is any other manufacturing facility for our phone
Plus I don't think NFC will add that much to the cost that they will put it in selectively.
The only way to use NFC with the F1 is by getting Samsung S3 Fronier smart watch. That will connect to the F1 and the watch has NFC. I tested it and it works great. You need to use Magisk hide if you're rooted,
There is no NFC built into the Poco.
Mike02z said:
The only way to use NFC with the F1 is by getting Samsung S3 Fronier smart watch. That will connect to the F1 and the watch has NFC. I tested it and it works great. You need to use Magisk hide if you're rooted,
There is no NFC built into the Poco.
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Great to hear you've found that setup works!
Just to check, have you managed to write to tags as well as read from them?
I won't be shelling out on a Samsung smart watch, but if that works, there's hope for other smart watches!
Mike02z said:
The only way to use NFC with the F1 is by getting Samsung S3 Fronier smart watch. That will connect to the F1 and the watch has NFC. I tested it and it works great. You need to use Magisk hide if you're rooted,
There is no NFC built into the Poco.
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In India an S3 frontier costs more than Poco F1
Exactly!! :laugh:
sanjay0501 said:
In India an S3 frontier costs more than Poco F1
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Who is gonna spend that much and that also in country like India.
but in India we use Mostly Paytm, PhonePe, BHIM UPI etc. apps which are UPI based apps so We don't need NFC must Have.
UPI is the standard way from Indian Government to Pay Digitally even with Low End Phones, and this phone is made accordingly!

Question Fast charging and camera

Hi guys and ladies
I have a question about fast charging Realme GT 5g (and all Realme, Oppo and OnePlus devices). Suport this phone another charging protocol like Qualcom Quick charge or Power delivery? I need second charger to my work, but I don't need full 65W. About 20W will be OK.
I decide between Realme GT and OP nord 2. Nord 2 have better camera, but have Mediatek, is camera in GT realy so bad? (My current device is Redmi note 5 pro)
Thanks for reply and sorry for my bad english
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Hi guys and ladies
I have a question about fast charging Realme GT 5g (and all Realme, Oppo and OnePlus devices). Suport this phone another charging protocol like Qualcom Quick charge or Power delivery? I need second charger to my work, but I don't need full 65W. About 20W will be OK.
I decide between Realme GT and OP nord 2. Nord 2 have better camera, but have Mediatek, is camera in GT realy so bad? (My current device is Redmi note 5 pro)
Thanks for reply and sorry for my bad english
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I like the camera on the GT 5G a lot. And the SD 888 is wicked fast. Fastest phone I have ever used.
FoneWatcher said:
I like the camera on the GT 5G a lot. And the SD 888 is wicked fast. Fastest phone I have ever used.
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I have same opinion from testing photos on web. And what about charging? I read somewhere PD should be work, but last 8years I have Xiaomi phones only, so I haven't exp with BBK.
Chriss46 said:
I have same opinion from testing photos on web. And what about charging? I read somewhere PD should be work, but last 8years I have Xiaomi phones only, so I haven't exp with BBK.
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I am coming from 8 years of Nexus/Pixel and my first BBK and it is very different experience. There are some things that I miss.
However, there are things the GT does that are extremely good (as well as having a budget price) and they are enough that I don't miss the Pixel experience.
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I am coming from 8 years of Nexus/Pixel and my first BBK and it is very different experience. There are some things that I miss.
However, there are things the GT does that are extremely good (as well as having a budget price) and they are enough that I don't miss the Pixel experience.
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I like GT explorer but unfortunatelly isn't in europe / czech. Maybe Neo 2 come to our republic for better Price. To christmas is long time

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