Hi!
Background:
I'm an esport producer and after some nightmare productions I'm really excited about the rog phone as it seams to be the only phone that have the features needed to make it into a good esports phone (e.g. Having 8-10 players competing in from of an audience), mainly: Hdmi output, ethernet capabilities and usb-c ports on the side..
Problem: After first successfully testing out Hdmi + ethernet connection I wanted to try if I could use the fan accessory and still be able to get the Hdmi signal from it.. When I connected the fan it told me to update the fan firmware so I did, but after that I'm not able to get Hdmi signal either with or without the fan accessory.. For instance, when I plug in my portable asus laptop monitor (power and signal from usb-c) the monitor starts to boot up and then dies.. Then tries again and dies and so on.. On my Samsung s8 it works fine.. So I'm guessing the firmware limits the power that the phone can output on the usb-c port.
Question, has anyone else experienced this issue? Is there a way to uninstall the fan firmware update (that obviously did not only affect the fan but the phone as well). The Hdmi adapter I used was something very similar to the professional dock but is actually an usb-c dock ment for laptops..
Tl:dr; hdmi doesn't work after "fan firmware update", plez halp.
Best regards
Ludvig Fjell
Qruxel E-sports Studio
Just a small update,
I was able to get it to work if I disconnect the power cable from the USB-C dongle and then connect it again.. and sometimes it also requires me to disconnect the HDMI + reconnecting that as well.. so I'm not sure if this actually was due to the fan firmware or just a result of a... weird bug(?) when it comes to the OTG features of the phone.. because connecting the dongle with both HDMI + power already plugged in does not work.
Anyway, just wanted you guys to know that it does work, just need to randomly connect/disconnect cables from the dongle first =)
Best regards,
Which USB-C to HDMI adapter were you using? I am looking for one that works with this device, aside from the fairly costly pro dock.
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I've tried the several listed proper sequences, I've tried USB debugging on and off, and I've tried rebooting my phone repeated times. I have the Menotek adapter others on here have said they've had luck with... but no matter what I do, neither the phone, nor the several TVs I've tried it with have recognized each other. I feel like there must be some setting or program I'm missing. Please help.
I get sound, no video
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My phone is the att stock version. I have the menotenk with rcp and it works every time I use it on a HDTV but if i use it on a dvi device I have to use headphones or any audio cable in the headphone port or at least use a bluetooth audio other wise I get video that plays about a frame every 3 seconds and no audio. If I am not watching a video it will work fine... but that don't seem to be your problem.
Debugging should be off. This is my procedure:
*Make sure you hdmi cable is already connected to the tv. For things like RCP most tv will only work on hdmi port 1, so just to be sure use port 1 on your tv and make dobule sure you are using the right cable for the port.
* Restart your phone, do not load any app that does not load automaticaly.
Make sure tv is on and set for whichever hdmi port that you intend to use.
Hook hdmi cable to your adapter.
Connect your charger to the adapter. (Most tv's will have some sort of reaction to this. My small tv goes from no signal to no video when I do this, my 52" goes from a blue screen saying no signal to a black screen, this might not happen on every tv but if it does in your then you can guess that connection is good.)
Connect the adapter to your phone. (When this happens you should see the charging icon in your phone, also, you will see a message that says something like "hdmi connected", I can't remeber off my head)
In a few seconds you should see your tv flicker and they you should see video and have audio.
Before I got this menotek I bought another brand and it was touch and go with that one, I had to try the above procedure a couple of times and sometimes it would work, most times it would not....
If you are stock and it don't work I will have to say that you have a defective unit.
Sounds like a hassle to me.
I'm on stock firmware using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter. I simply pull the HDMI out of my PS3, and plug it in to the MHL adapter. Then I plug in the power supply. Then I plug the MHL adapter in my phone. Works flawlessly every time...tested on multiple video apps and games.
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Sounds like a hassle to me.
I'm on stock firmware using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter. I simply pull the HDMI out of my PS3, and plug it in to the MHL adapter. Then I plug in the power supply. Then I plug the MHL adapter in my phone. Works flawlessly every time...tested on multiple video apps and games.
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Hassle? How so? Sounds like the same thing I do.... I'm trying to help the op, telling him how to connect it probably will not do, If he is reading the instruction on the adapter he is alreading doing that same process, I'm trying to give him a better picture than the instructions on the adapter documentation.
Hey there, i have tried gathering information about this subject and it seems all threads always lead to this announcement:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
Short: Samsung have changed to an 11 Pin-out to enable USB OTG and MHL Hdmi out at the same time. I purchased an original HDTV Adapter (EPL-3FHUBEGSTD) which as far as i can reliably count indeed has about 11 connectors inside the USB connector that goes into the phone.
Now, i can get HDMI out just fine, but ONLY when i also connect the MHL adapter to a power source (a PC USB Port will do fine), however i have also read, that the phone is able to power the MHL adapter itself but obviously would not be charged then (no surprises there). This does not work however.
Further, connecting a USB OTG cable to the micro usb port on the MHL adapter does nothing. No notification and no devices connecting. No power either, since the LED on my USB Hub does not light up as it should. Connecting any devices to the hub does nothing to change that situation. If i leave out the MHL adapter and connect the USB OTG cable directly to the phone, everything works perfectly. I have tried this with 2 different OTG cables so they are not the problem.
This is an original genuine HDTV Adapter for our phones, which according to that post should be working fine with USB OTG.
AFAIK, this topic --does-- come up more frequently now as i can find a few more discussions about it, albeit none really helpful:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-of-11-pin-mhl-connector-in-samsung-galaxy-s3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743128
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803079
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link#11-pin_MHL-USB_Connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811435
That wiki entry is the most interesting link as it definitely states that using MHL and USB OTG simultaneously is possible and is also the reason why the 5 pin layout was changed to an 11 Pin layout.
Looking forward to reading your replies!
the ability to use MHL and OTG simultaneously would give the S3 so much more purpose. It is powerful enough to replace a desktop computer used only for light stuff like browsing and watching videos, and even simple gaming. If samsung made a dock like the one for the motorola atrix I'm convinced they will broaden their target group. The atrix got everything right with this but is inferior hardware wise. I love the idea of a one device for everything concept. Unfortunately it doesn't rhyme very well with the growth society.
Love the MHL and the OTG is even better only after I got the correct cables as the cables changed on S3 to the S2 version, unlimited space for watching films on my phone is now awesome and even better connecting it to to the TV just need a good dock,
is there perhaps any expert advise on this? According to multiple sources it should work but really doesnt. Did i buy the wrong mhl adapter?
I think they will only both work together when being used with an MHL enabled tv. That way the power comes from the tv and the usb on the adapter can be used for the usb-otg cable.
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But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
Thanks
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But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
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I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
mertzi said:
I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
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It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
joysleep said:
It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
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Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
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Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
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I have recently received an MHL connector (5 pin type) and the samsung 11 to 5 pin adapter for it. I can confirm that if I plug my OTG cable into it, and then into my powered USB hub, I can get the MHL to work just fine, both video and audio. The OTG cable powers it just fine, but does NOT allow me to use other devices attached to the USB hub.
I am still researching. I suspect you need to bring all 11 pins off the phone with a splitter of some sort, or possibly wire data lines through the MHL. Probably not with the 5 pin MHL connector and 11 to 5 pin adapter, but with the full 11 pin MHL adapter. I am not up to that level of hardware hacking. I suspect whoever does it first can sell a BUNCH of them!
Oh, and I have a Moto Lapdock for my Raspberry Pi, and would love to hook my S3 to it too!
Scott
Just got it, but would like to watch movies on my TV. I have chromecast but i wanted a wired solution to eliminate any lag.
I know the phone has MHL 3.0, but I have a 5 year old Samsung non-smart TV.
which MHL cables can I use? My only requirement is that the MHL adapter should NOT need power. Basically looking for something like the iPhone HDMI/Lighting adapter, or the Samsung MHL 2.0 cables that didn't require power.
Thanks in advance.
Something like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-MHL-H...e=UTF8&qid=1445628106&sr=8-1&keywords=MHL+3.0
"Additional USB Micro-B female for charging & power"
In my experience, MHL requires power, I don't think the phone pumps out enough to power the HDMI without it. That might not be conceptually correct, but every lead I've ever tried will only work with power connected anyway.
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"Additional USB Micro-B female for charging & power"
In my experience, MHL requires power, I don't think the phone pumps out enough to power the HDMI without it. That might not be conceptually correct, but every lead I've ever tried will only work with power connected anyway.
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MHL 3.0 do not require external power, the port is there for compatibility with MHL 2.0 & 1.0 phones or if you want to charge the phone while using the adaptor.
This adaptor works fine without external power on my Z5C
Somebody gave me this .
MHL Micro USB to HDMI HD TV Adapter Cable Samsung Galaxy S3 S4 S5 Note 2 Tab 3 (from ebay)
needless to say, it doesn't work with my Z5c, it even says so in the description. Is this because the cable is not MHL 3?
Samsung uses a different number of pins I think.
Also, doesn't the receiving device have to support MHL?
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MHL 3.0 do not require external power, the port is there for compatibility with MHL 2.0 & 1.0 phones or if you want to charge the phone while using the adaptor.
This adaptor works fine without external power on my Z5C
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Good to hear MHL 3.0 doesn't require external power but it might be the power output on Z5c usb port is higher. Are you sure it doesn't has any problem because when I'm reading the customer reviews I found that.
"I'm usually a fan of Lindy products and have bought a lot in the past, but this adapter has a critical flaw and I'm appalled that they have decided to sell it anyway. When connected to either my Xperia Z1 or Z5 it creates so much interference with the mobile network signal that it the signal completely cuts out. Meaning I can still share the screen, but not stream any content. A quick look on Google confirmed that the adapter is the cause, and cheap knock-off active MHL adapters often do this."
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Good to hear MHL 3.0 doesn't require external power but it might be the power output on Z5c usb port is higher. Are you sure it doesn't has any problem because when I'm reading the customer reviews I found that.
"I'm usually a fan of Lindy products and have bought a lot in the past, but this adapter has a critical flaw and I'm appalled that they have decided to sell it anyway. When connected to either my Xperia Z1 or Z5 it creates so much interference with the mobile network signal that it the signal completely cuts out. Meaning I can still share the screen, but not stream any content. A quick look on Google confirmed that the adapter is the cause, and cheap knock-off active MHL adapters often do this."
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I haven't used it that much yet, only to display content from the phone's SD card. I'll give it a test tonight, to see if there are any problems with network signal while using the adaptor.
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Good to hear MHL 3.0 doesn't require external power but it might be the power output on Z5c usb port is higher. Are you sure it doesn't has any problem because when I'm reading the customer reviews I found that.
"I'm usually a fan of Lindy products and have bought a lot in the past, but this adapter has a critical flaw and I'm appalled that they have decided to sell it anyway. When connected to either my Xperia Z1 or Z5 it creates so much interference with the mobile network signal that it the signal completely cuts out. Meaning I can still share the screen, but not stream any content. A quick look on Google confirmed that the adapter is the cause, and cheap knock-off active MHL adapters often do this."
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3G and WiFi works fine with Lindy MHL adaptor, just tested it
Can the USB otg and HDMI be used at the same time?
My situation now is that I have the Moga Pro Power that I picked up at the pawn shop for $40
Noticed that it has quite a bit of lag using the A-mode, and still a noticeable amount of lag in B-mode, approximately 100ms.
So I'm wondering if it's possible to connect a wired controller via USB otg, and if that might have less input lag.
I'm also curious if I can output to HDMI while connected to a wired USB controller.
If I could create like a docking station on my TV that turns my phone into a mean little media station/console, that would be completely badass.
I saw this adapter on Amazon and eBay, it connects to the phone's microusb on one end, and has ports for HDMI, SD, Micro-SD, USB, and a Micro-usb for powering the phone and any attached USB device at the same time. You can find it by searching "otg slimport" on Amazon or eBay.. Selling for under $13 on eBay. Unfortunately, the same product on Amazon has only a 2 star rating. Reviews saying the charging port isn't working as advertised, and HDMI connection is touchy, and certain TVs are incompatible. So it looks like a no-go. China will manufacture and sell just about any hodgepodge of wires and plastic they think consumers will buy, that doesn't mean it will work.
So now I'm wondering if this sort of function is even possible, and if so, is there a product available that can provide it, and if there is no product like that, can somebody please make it?
So I did a bit of research, and it seems there's definitely some technical limitations as far as charging the phone wile in "host" mode. This means that while connected to USB OTG, the circuitry that is normally used to charge the phone, is used to supply power to the attached USB devices. I found a site that has a modified kernel for the Nexus 7 that enables charging the phone while connected to devices via OTG. https://mehrvarz.github.io/usb-host-mode-power-management-nexus7/
Maybe this could be implemented in the V10
I bought the ADAM elements CASA H01 USB Type-C to HDMI Adapter Gold, I tried connecting HDMI to my S8, S8 says HDMI connected but the TV has no response. I am sure the TV works with HDMI as I tested my XBOX on it. Is there anyway to make it work? Or is my adapter broken?
you can try things like switching the tv off/on and the phone off/on whilst its connected. sometimes, not often, that will help
it sounds like hdmi handshake issues. basically a compatibility problem between the phone and the tv.
Thank you for the suggestion, I tried but still doesn't work. If it's a problem between the phone and tv, should I try the adapter on other tv?
I used Choetech USB C to HDMI 60HZ cable to my S8. Everything worked well. https://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Thunderbolt-Compatible-MacBook-ChromeBook/dp/B06XP9NV4G/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1495422430&sr=8-5&keywords=choetech+HDMI
I had some HDCP issues when I tried connecting my S8 to a capture device, but that was due to a poor quality cable.
Make sure your device can read the HDMI signal coming from the phone too. It appears to send 1080p or higher, so if your device only understands 720p (some smaller TVs are like this) it might not be able to see the signal from your phone.
I'm having same issue hubbies works mine won't same cord and tv???
Any idea what's going on I just factory reset my phone and still doesn't work
I just got an hdmi to USB c adapter today as well and I first connected it it did not recognize my phone either. The thing that seamed to do the trick was attaching the adapter to my phone first without the hdmi or power cord, then powercord then connecting the hdmi cord and all works well
still not repaired
4 repair invoices 3 months and still not repaired currently on hold with Samsung .... i'm not impressed as this feature was a huge decision for buying the S8+
i use baseus usb-c to hdmi cable - all work good (but no dex)
I have tried two different usb-c to HDMI cable adapters and can't get neither of them to work. Any ideas thanks
Broken and need help
I have a Ugreen Adapter for usb-c to HDMI cable, it worked very well
On several tvs, it WAS working here in Mexico on my ATVIO tv, then I did some phone cleanup and it STOPPED, is there a special application or setting that I've uninstalled????, I'm lost without YouTube on my tv LOL , cant find info anywhere and I swear I installed something on my phone to get it working like 7 months ago in Dallas LOL
biggest thing iv found with EVERY usb type C connectivity issue, POCKET LINT. its as simple as using a sewing needle or safety pin to CAREFULLY take the pocket lint out of the type C port on your device, there are 30 individual pins in there, and they ALL need to make a good connection to your adapter. brand does not matter, if it works with phone A phone B will figure it out (unless your phone simply doesnt support mhl adapters)
Same problem - Galaxy S8+ with Choetech USB-C to HDMI adapter. Worked a couple of months ago not working now. Wife's phone (exactly the same) work a with adapter and HDMI cable. Cleaned, powered on/off, reset phone, nothing works. So frustrating. Any ideas?
I was using my S8+ with my TV. After a couple updates ( prior to Pie) no longer worked. Please don't suggest turning things on / off or factory reset.... The cord is fine. My phone just now updated to Pie, I thought great, maybe it will work again..... nope... I've contacted Samsung, same BS runaround. Samsung - must be a compatibility issue, Me - it was working, Samsung - must be the cord, buy a new one, Me - already did, tried two different brands, Samsung - was one of them Samsung, Me - ......., Samsung - try factory reset, Me -....... by this time I know I'm screwed. There WAS something to do with an update. (And yes prior to the Pie update I did a factory re-set with no results). From the comments on this post appears no one has a solution....