Hi all.
Has anyone faced the following problem with unoriginal charger:
I've bought BlitzWolf® BW-S10 30W PowerDelivery 3.0/ QC 3.0 charger.
It works just fine with my Sony XZ and Huawei Nova.
But when I connect Tab S3 - charging never starts.
In order to persuade the tablet to charge by BW-S10 I have to:
- connect any other charger to the tablet for 1 sec;
- and then connect the BW-S10.
In this case Tab S3 recognizes the BW-S10 and Quick Charge starts (according to the message in notification panel).
How can I fix this issue or at least find out the problem that prevents Tab S3 from starting the charging?
Cable is: ZMi AL301 Type-C - Type-C.
Tablet charges perfectly via original charger.
Thx.
There can be a few reasons that the charger cannot reliably start charging. First, it can be a buggy firmware on the tablet (check for the update, that might fix it). Second, there is a conflict between the charger and a tablet chipset (no fix to that). Third, there are multiple USB-C PD specs differently implemented over the USB-C devices manufacturers. (no fix to that). Based on the charger spec and Samsung's charging specs, I think that the tablet fails on the power negotiations, and that's why you have to plug original charger to "reset" and then you can use BlitzWolf charger that "herein" the previous power requirements.
Palima said:
there is a conflict between the charger and a tablet chipset
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I guess there can also be a conflict between charger and cable.
I'll order the BlitzWolf's USB 3.1 recommended cable an write if it helps.
As for firmware, Samsung promises to update Tab S3 to Android 9.0.
That can fix the issue as well.
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I've got around 4 different micro-USB AC Adapters that I have lying around. One is the OEM Lenovo, One is OEM Samsung (i777 charger + Samsung Micro-USB cable), one is a multi-USB port AC adapter with a micro-usb cable, and the last is an iPad 2 wall charger with a micro-USB cable.
ALL of the chargers except the OEM Lenovo ones don't charge my tablet. When It's plugged in, for a couple of seconds it says Charging (AC), and then it just switches to discharging. I've tried all the aforementioned chargers and cables in different combinations, and the ONLY ones to work correctly is the Lenovo combo.
Is there a specific reason to this? Also tried all 4 cables connected to my PC.. They all don't charge efficiently at all.
look at the Voltage and Amperage of the adapter !
Lenovo use 2A if I remember well, the other use only 1A
quyTam is correct... most USB chargers are between 500mA and 850mA. The dual battery design of the tablets requires a min of 2A to charge correctly. This is why most computer USB ports will not charge the device.
However... the changer isn't the only thing restricting the power. The cable you are using can also effect power. Not all cables are created equal.
I stopped by Staples just after getting my tablet and picked up a 4 port 2.1A USB wall charger. It will charge my phone, Bluetooth, and tablet. There are also really nice 2A "extra battery" devices out there that allow you to a charged battery with you that will power and recharge your device.
I also recommend the dock for the tablet... it has a 65w power supply and charges the tablet in a 1/3 the time then the usb chargers.
where to get a charger
i tried 2Amp chargers....didn't help/
my brother says:
"the pins are slightly different/off/longer/shorter/what DID lenovo do here?"
as a safety i bought:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/?_kw=886605022780&_clu=2&_fcid=100&_fvi=1&_localstpos=&_stpos=&gbr=1
just in case...
it costs an arm and a leg for a microUSB charger, but not charging the device for a couple of days would cost me more :S
just another things that makes the TPT slightly less then perfect
o,O
Charger
I use a Dell Axim x51 charger and an LG cable from an old phone. Seems to work very well and eBay prices for the charger are less than $4.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8523-rev...arger/page__st__40__gopid__448194#entry448194
In my experience a 1A charger will also work. Nothing less than 1A will do anything.
I keep my Lenovo charger in my home office and use a 1A phone charger next to my bed for overnight charging.
I too have a 4 port mains to USB charger: 2A but I thought it was distributed to the 4 ports. If all were being used then each port would only be .5A.
Will have to try it out. If it works it would lighten the travel load of chargers.
Gottoon said:
quyTam is correct... most USB chargers are between 500mA and 850mA. The dual battery design of the tablets requires a min of 2A to charge correctly. This is why most computer USB ports will not charge the device.
However... the changer isn't the only thing restricting the power. The cable you are using can also effect power. Not all cables are created equal.
I stopped by Staples just after getting my tablet and picked up a 4 port 2.1A USB wall charger. It will charge my phone, Bluetooth, and tablet. There are also really nice 2A "extra battery" devices out there that allow you to a charged battery with you that will power and recharge your device.
I also recommend the dock for the tablet... it has a 65w power supply and charges the tablet in a 1/3 the time then the usb chargers.
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That's for sure. I thought the dock was a waste of money until I forked out on Amazon. Saves so much time it isn't funny....
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The tablet needs to see 5.3 V, when using >500mA.
Already thinner USB-Cables increase the voltage drop
so the thinkpad wont charge, even with the original charger.
It may have less to do with your charger than with the cables. I bought extra long (6 and 10 ft) USB cables for charging phone and my TPT. The 28AWG of any length won't charge the TPT. The 24AWG 6 ft and 10ft cable *will* on a 2A charger. I haven't tried other combinations. I believe it will charge on a 1A charger as well, but would likely require the larger 24AWG cable.
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Design Flaw in Thinkpad Tablet prevents Landscape Mode Charging for Developers
I actually sent my 1838-22U in for service, thinking that there was a hardware problem preventing charging while connected via USB. At first I had noticed that while connected directly to a PC via USB for development purposes (no docking station), the unit indicated that it was charging. However, it seemed to be discharging faster than it was charging and slowly worked its way down to unusable. Lenovo Tech Support indicated that they had heard of this happening, and that I should send it in to have its system board replaced. I sent it in only to find that all they had done was replace the battery and reload the firmware. I did notice, however, that when I connected the USB cable, it appeared to go into charging mode for a couple of seconds then switch into discharge mode. I asked Tech Support about this and they said they this was actually the way it should have been behaving all along, and that this was by design.
The User Manual (see attachment) states only that it might not charge, and that it will only discharge if the tablet "exceeds USB 2.0 power limits" (i.e. 500ma).
Well, the Thinkpad Tablet seems to be pretty good at doing that.
Here's where I present to the development community a conundrum. How can one develop in landscape mode while charging (even slowly)? In portrait mode, one can use the accessory docking station, which uses its own charger and charges through the proprietary connector next to the micro USB port, while separately allowing the USB to be used for data. In landscape mode, there is no such option. I will accept that the unit may draw too much current to charge well via a 500ma USB data connection, but then Lenovo should provide a optional charger that connects directly to the same proprietary connector used by the docking station. This is done elsewhere. For instance, Motorola realizes that the Xoom draws too much current to charge via a USB data connection, so they don't even bother with it - they provide a dedicated charger connection and charger.
==UPDATE== 25-May-2012
SOLUTION FOUND
The solution to using a data connection and charging the Thinkpad Tablet at the same time, without relying on the portrait-mode-only Dock Station, is to connect through a powered USB hub which supports the USB Battery Charging Specification (with a Charging Downstream Port). The specification provides at least 1.5A, which quite handily satisfies the Thinkpad. I found such a hub, the GWCTech HU2V40, on Amazon for $15.99.
If you get this model, note that only one of the 4 ports can be used for high-current charging. It includes a tiny "Smart Charger Adapter" but which appears to block the data connection (at least when when used with the Thinkpad). In other words, ignore the little black passthrough adapter included with it, and plug directly in as you normally would. The instructions don't explain the purpose of the passthrough adapter.
Hi everyone!
I just wanted to ask this: I just bought a 90W charger for my laptop. It is a "Targus Compact Charger for laptop and usb tablet"
It charges my laptop and also has that usb port which charges through a cable, compatible devices. Only that on that usb port, it says that it charges 2.1A, which is a lot. My phone charger does only 550mAh.
So the question, shouldn't I charge my phone through the adapter?
Thanks in advance!
I just got my Tab p7500 and i have a problem. When i connects it to the charger it gives me MTP mode and charges veeeeeeery slowly as if it's connected to a usb.
Anyone knows what is this problem ?
Are you using original charger or some compatible, f.e. from your mobile. The original gives higher output power.
Does it actually show the connected as MTP notification? If not, make sure the charger is plugged in with the black wall adapter that came with it, since that gives it the full (10W i think) of power. If you plug it into one of those generic usb bars(like the Belkin mini surge protector), you will get only the power output meant for mobile devices and will charge very slowly.
i have the same problem
It takes me approximately 4 hour from zero to 100% with the original charger...
i just recently had the same problem.
buying a new adapter solved the problem. it seems that samsung's chargers aren't that good of a quality. (my sgs2's is working, but the outer part of the cable started to split so i had to fix it with some shrink tube...)
Can anyone else tell me if they have any issues charging the sony xperia using an adapter other than the one supplied?
I have one that I use for everything, iphone, kindle, garmin watch, sansa mp3 player. Yet when I hook up the sony usb charger cable to it the battery light blinks and viewing in the battery section of settings shows it alternating between 'charging' and 'discharging' at the same frequency as the flashing light. This frequency is roughly 1 second. I managed to stabalise the charging on this OEM adapter once. It always charges perfectly on the supplied adapter.
Also I have a portable 5V charger that again I use for all my gadgets as listed above. They all work fine. Not the sony tablet. 'Charging is not supported with this accessory' I'm told this time.
This tablet is looking worse and worse to me. The fact that this tablet was supposed to be bog standard 5V and came with the usb setup (making it simple to use with my portable charger) was one of the major reasons I bought it. Yet I can only use the supplied adapter and am stuck to the A/C supply.
Anyone else seeing similar problems?
Problem? Sony tableyt s dont use the usb port for battery charging
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Hernan1978 said:
Problem? Sony tableyt s dont use the usb port for battery charging
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Anyone that owns the tablet will understand what I am saying. The charger cable comes in a 2 piece. A usb to proprietary connector lead and an A/C adapter. You connect the proprietary end of the cable to the tablet. You connect the full USB connector end of the the cable to the adapter. You plug the adapter into the mains and it charges your tablet.
What I am saying is that if I use an alternate A/C adapter (i.e. one that accepts a USB connection and is rated for 1.5 amps and 5V) it does not charge the tablet correctly. I can't see why this would be as these adapters are all supposed to be built to a standard. Sony has something different in theirs I think. I believe it is non-standard.
(There is no USB port on the tablet so clearly this is not what I meant!!)
3rd Party Charger
ice9111 said:
Anyone that owns the tablet will understand what I am saying. The charger cable comes in a 2 piece. A usb to proprietary connector lead and an A/C adapter. You connect the proprietary end of the cable to the tablet. You connect the full USB connector end of the the cable to the adapter. You plug the adapter into the mains and it charges your tablet.
What I am saying is that if I use an alternate A/C adapter (i.e. one that accepts a USB connection and is rated for 1.5 amps and 5V) it does not charge the tablet correctly. I can't see why this would be as these adapters are all supposed to be built to a standard. Sony has something different in theirs I think. I believe it is non-standard.
(There is no USB port on the tablet so clearly this is not what I meant!!)
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From what I understand we should be able to use a 3rd party charger if it can supply at least 1.5 amps of current at 5VDC. The only limitations that I have seen is some of the 3rd party iPad chargers (USB plugs) won't work with some android devices so the USB standard must not be as standard as one would tend to think. If your charger is blinking and intermittently charging there is a good chance that it can't sustain the current that the tablet is trying to draw.
I bought this hdmi cable from amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K61OB6C/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I hooked up the tab to the tv, cranked up netflix and nothing. I plugged in the power adapter and got a picture. So needs charger to plugged in to work. I wasn't real keen on the output, but was only testing for connectivity. Might come back and edit after I have chance to adjust settings.
Today, I plugged the cable into the second hdmi port on my tv and it does mirror the tab display. Good response time too.
The charger is necessary but it does not charge the Tab. Left it plugged in and battery was down to 38% before i noticed.
Maybe a hardware error? Because under features it's described that it will charge your device...
burningstep said:
Maybe a hardware error? Because under features it's described that it will charge your device...
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Probably not a hardware error. I'm on my 3rd dongle that's supposed to charge your tablet while using connected devices. The latest is this one: http://www.amazon.com/E-More%C2%AE-Multi-functional-Connection-Reader-Samsung/dp/B00K80C9CE/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1403104007&sr=8-8&keywords=HDTV+HDMI+Adapter+Cable+USB+OTG+Card+Reader
Everything works except for charging the tablet. Have a red X on the charging symbol while the battery continues to drain. It does charge the tablet while it's off. I have a power hungry Tab Pro 12.2 that has trouble maintaining a charge while playing a couple games with the stock 2 amp charger. I'm beginning to think that none of the HDMI dongles out there are capable of delivering the current necessary to run the larger tablets.
Ah, I see. It's because not enough power through the micro usb. You need 2A but this adapter's only delivering 1A.
It seems, there a no adapters with 2A...
I have a ton of usb chargers gathered over the years. Largest i have is only 5.1 volts. Tab has a large output. Wonder if other devices could be damaged using it or is output regulated by draw of whatever it is attached to? At any rate, i don't think any of the dongles or otg cables have a power source other than what is supplied by the tabs adapter. So are you thinking it is an issue with the pin configuration on the adapter? It is a 11 pin connector. Sure wish there was 1 standard for everyone instead of everyone having their own.
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It's not limitated by the pins, there are just for more or less possibilities for an interchange (at least a salesman told me that). It's limited by the inside electronical components. Maybe anybody out there to explain it better or correct my words?
If I remember correctly (it's been a couple years since I tested it), my S3 required the Samsung charger + Samsung wire hooked up to the HDMI (I have the Samsung HDMI adapter) to charge the device while mirroring the screen. I tried it with a more powerful power adapter (2.1 amps vs Samsung 1.x amps) and generic wire but the phone would lose power over time. I could even charge the phone while mirroring if I used a generic Samsung wall charger and Samsung cord that was listed as 0.8 amps.
I bought the official Samsung one a few weeks ago and it is working fine, it also charges the device while using it but you have to connect a charger to the MHL-HDMI adapter.
Sadly I recently flashed CM11 on my TabPRO 10.1 and now the adapter doesn't work anymore. I get picture but no sound Was so happy about getting CM11 official on my device, but this feature is something I can't live without so I'm going to have to hop back to stockbased
HDMI doesn´t work
Hi guys! I´ve bought this one adapter dhgate.com/product/1-1-mhl-11-pin-micro-usb-to-hdmi-cable-hdtv/163941539 I know is not the original one but doesnt work!!!! I did all the steps but nothing. Any idea?? I have installed the original ROM on my galaxy tab t520. I need help!!! Thanks
Hey everyone, so just reading all the comments regarding the HDMI adapter not charging your tab while it is plugged in with the charger, I have also had issues with it and also with my Note2 and the Samsung Smart Dock I use with it. But I did however manage to find the solution to why it would not charge while on the HDMI dock that is connected to my T.V. It seams that if you plug either the Smart Dock or even the HDMI connectors to the HDMI cable first then plug in the charger it will show its charging but will eventually lose charge while outputting an HDMI output, instead, you need to first plug in the charger cable into your HDMI adapter, then plug it into your phone or tablet and finally plug in the HDMI cable into the adapter, I have found this to be the way to keep my phone and tablet charging while also having the HDMI output connected to my T.V..
Hope this helps .
Hi,
Ever since I upgraded my Sony Xperia Z2 from 4.4.3 to 4.4.4, I am unable to charge it with a portable USB power pack. It starts charging for 2 seconds and then stops, regardless if the screen is on, dimmed or locked.
Charging works fine via USB cable to laptop or using wall charger.
The portable power pack charges Samsung S5 fine without any issues. Only started since the firmware was upgraded.
USB Portable Power Pack:-
Capacity: 4800mah
Input: DC 5V 1A
Output: DC 5V 1A
Any ideas?
Slip_Stream said:
Hi,
Ever since I upgraded my Sony Xperia Z2 from 4.4.3 to 4.4.4, I am unable to charge it with a portable USB power pack. It starts charging for 2 seconds and then stops, regardless if the screen is on, dimmed or locked.
Charging works fine via USB cable to laptop or using wall charger.
The portable power pack charges Samsung S5 fine without any issues. Only started since the firmware was upgraded.
USB Portable Power Pack:-
Capacity: 4800mah
Input: DC 5V 1A
Output: DC 5V 1A
Any ideas?
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There was only 4.4.2 for Z2, not 4.4.3 but that's irrelevant.
Only thing you can try is to downgrade to 4.4.2 and try to charge again.
If that fails you will know it's portable charger to be blamed...
Try to connect it to PC and few other phones and check what's happening...
I mean, it's just a battery, if it's working on S5 it should work on any other device as well...
Quite strange problem...
I.m on 4.4.4, and my Xiaomi Mi 10400mAH PowerBank charged it fine
Slip_Stream said:
Hi,
Ever since I upgraded my Sony Xperia Z2 from 4.4.3 to 4.4.4, I am unable to charge it with a portable USB power pack. It starts charging for 2 seconds and then stops, regardless if the screen is on, dimmed or locked.
Charging works fine via USB cable to laptop or using wall charger.
The portable power pack charges Samsung S5 fine without any issues. Only started since the firmware was upgraded.
USB Portable Power Pack:-
Capacity: 4800mah
Input: DC 5V 1A
Output: DC 5V 1A
Any ideas?
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Try different cable. I had one cheap Chinese, it started to break off close to the USB plug. Phone said that it was charging, but it wasn't.
Ok. Seem to have gotten to the bottom of it.
Its not a connection issue as the USB cable fits tightly and firmly in the same way as the cable that came with the phone. IT does not move or wobble.
I think its behavioral.
Looks like when my battery is less then 30% and I try the cable that comes with the USB charger it starts and stops charging in 2 seconds.
But when I try the factory USB cable that came with my phone and a different thicker USB cable it charged fine.
But once it reached above 50% I could use the USB cable that came with the charger to charge it to full charge.
Its as if the phone requires a larger current draw when charging under 30% vs when the phone's battery is at +50% or over.
Is this possible?
I'm just guessing here.....
The thinner USB cable that came with the charger must have some current loss maybe due to the quality of the wiring.
Its Output is 5V 1A and my understanding that is the minimum amount of current required to perform a charge on this phone.
I'll keep testing it. Phone is currently at full charge. I'll let the battery get to under 10% (probably take 2-3 day) and then perform some scenario test and keep everyone updated. One thing I would like to test first is using the USB cable that came with the charger but using my laptop as the power source vs the portable charger when the phone is under 10%.
Thank you everyone for all your suggestions.
Will keep you all posted.
funky0308 said:
There was only 4.4.2 for Z2, not 4.4.3 but that's irrelevant.
Only thing you can try is to downgrade to 4.4.2 and try to charge again.
If that fails you will know it's portable charger to be blamed...
Try to connect it to PC and few other phones and check what's happening...
I mean, it's just a battery, if it's working on S5 it should work on any other device as well...
Quite strange problem...
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The Android update was install via the "Update Center" Sony App on the Z2 phone.
The phone model is D6503
Android Version : 4.4.4
Build number
23.0.1.A.0.167
Cheers.
Slip_Stream said:
The Android update was install via the "Update Center" Sony App on the Z2 phone.
The phone model is D6503
Android Version : 4.4.4
Build number
23.0.1.A.0.167
Cheers.
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This answer doesn't have anything with my post...
I just said, there's no 4.4.3 for Z2 (at least not official)
funky0308 said:
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This answer doesn't have anything with my post...
I just said, there's no 4.4.3 for Z2 (at least not official)
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The OP probably made a typo and meant to say 4.4.2 as the version prior to 4.4.4
JJD809 said:
The OP probably made a typo and meant to say 4.4.2 as the version prior to 4.4.4
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Most likely, yeah...
Sorry to all if I sounded rude - that wasn't my intention...
Portable Charger for Sony Xperia Z2
If your portable charger is not charging your Xperia Z2, then try another portable charger with inbuilt USB cords. This might help you!