Dear XDA Moderators, Developers and Members...
I'm a Le Max 2 user for 3 years. I've ordered phone from Aliexpress:
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At the begin of the second year, my phone's motherboard has been short circuit by a water damage. This short circuit caused batter draining. So it drains anytime even the phone is completely off. I had to use the phone with this issue for 2 years. I couldn't buy a new motherboard because dollar rate is high on Turkey and I couldn't afford it.
Now I want to apology from every moderators, developers and members that I disturb by asking battery life on each topic and being too aggressive sometimes. I know I was about to get banned from the forum because of those behaviors. But I want you to know that I wasn't trolling, spamming or kidding. I was asking battery life because it was more important for me than any user who use a normal phone. But I promise that I'm never gonna ask it again no matter how would it be important for me. I apology again to become too much aggressive sometimes but if you'd have to live with a broken phone, I'm sure it'd make you aggressive too sometimes.
I'm still using this phone and I have to use it for a while because of the dollar rate in Turkey. I have a small request for you. If you have a le max 2 that you don't use, it'd be greatly helpful to send me its motherboard for a proper price.
Best regards and apologies. Dear XDA family, believe me or not, I love you all
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Thank you for cleaning. I'm hoping a civilized discussion here
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Heyyo N-Gage4ever, Oh I see, no worries bud I can understand the frustration with a device acting up.
I dunno how comfortable you feel with it, but you could open up your device and then use cotton swabs and isopropyl 99% and try to clean the liquid residue.
Resealing your x2 afterwards would require some new double sided adhesive tape like this one I used on my x2.
https://www.amazon.ca/MMOBIEL-Adhesive-Tablets-Digitizer-Display/dp/B00PVWMTA6
The most important part about opening up an x2 is to heat the device enough to open up the screen without damaging it. It should be hot enough that you can't hold the device for long so I'd recommend using thin gloves with rubber grip and two suction cups.
If you're not comfortable doing this? You could try asking a smart device repair shop... Alebit, their repair estimate might be high and you might be better off saving the money instead for something like an external battery you can just carry with you.
Good luck!
PS, LineageOS 16.0 does have a QuickCharge toggle thanks to lucchetto :good:
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Heyyo N-Gage4ever, Oh I see, no worries bud I can understand the frustration with a device acting up.
I dunno how comfortable you feel with it, but you could open up your device and then use cotton swabs and isopropyl 99% and try to clean the liquid residue.
Resealing your x2 afterwards would require some new double sided adhesive tape like this one I used on my x2.
https://www.amazon.ca/MMOBIEL-Adhesive-Tablets-Digitizer-Display/dp/B00PVWMTA6
The most important part about opening up an x2 is to heat the device enough to open up the screen without damaging it. It should be hot enough that you can't hold the device for long so I'd recommend using thin gloves with rubber grip and two suction cups.
If you're not comfortable doing this? You could try asking a smart device repair shop... Alebit, their repair estimate might be high and you might be better off saving the money instead for something like an external battery you can just carry with you.
Good luck!
PS, LineageOS 16.0 does have a QuickCharge toggle thanks to lucchetto :good:
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Dear Mard,
Thank you so much for your respond. On 3rd April, I gave my phone a device repair shop. They opened up my device and after a few days they said me that there is a short circuit on motherboard that drains my battery. And they also said they need another motherboard to fix the issue.
Can you please look at this article? https://www.ubreakifix.com/blog/all-about-iphonecell-phone-water-damage It explains my issue perfectly. Especially this passage:
Let’s look at some of the other consequences of a short circuit. Like we showed above, if the drop of water stays on the circuit for too long, the battery will drain and eventually die all together. Don’t believe me? Try connecting the positive and negative terminals of a battery together. The battery will begin to get hot as it quickly discharges and eventually reaches a state where it cannot recharge. This is a very common issue in water damaged phones and if left unchecked, the lithium ion battery found in the device can be irreversibly damaged. Other parts that commonly short out are charge ports, flex cables and mechanical buttons.
PS. Thank you for the info and all your works. The developer setting thing was a joke you know..
Oh hmm, ok yeah if there is damage to the circuit? Unfortunately, it does sound like the motherboard itself would need to be replaced... is there any offers online such as eBay where people are selling their x2's for spare parts only? That could be something to check into.
Otherwise? There is a lot of pretty darn good Xiaomi devices for good budgets that might work for you. I'd recommend of course checking their 3G and LTE frequency bands to ensure they're compatible to your carrier before buying them... otherwise? The LeEco Le 2 isn't as powerful as our Le Max 2, but they can be found for pretty cheap these days and also have good custom ROM support.
As for the setting for QC? It has been requested quite a bit tbh and luckily lucchetto revamped x2's devicesettings to include a QuickCharge toggle and his implementation didn't even require modifying our selinux policies which was nice too, so it was an easy include for LineageOS 16.0. He is the maintainer for RevengeOS and his trees are currently LineageOS based which is why his commit was super easy to bring to LineageOS 16.0.
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Oh hmm, ok yeah if there is damage to the circuit? Unfortunately, it does sound like the motherboard itself would need to be replaced... is there any offers online such as eBay where people are selling their x2's for spare parts only? That could be something to check into.
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Yes. I checked lots of site including of Ebay but only Aliexpress in that I could find motherboard. And the price is too high there. Then I thought it'd be a nice idea to share my situation on XDA. Because there are plenty of X2 users here and I'm sure some of them don't use their phone anymore.... Because our phone is old now.
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Otherwise? There is a lot of pretty darn good Xiaomi devices for good budgets that might work for you. I'd recommend of course checking their 3G and LTE frequency bands to ensure they're compatible to your carrier before buying them... otherwise? The LeEco Le 2 isn't as powerful as our Le Max 2, but they can be found for pretty cheap these days and also have good custom ROM support..
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Well we are in a financial crisis as country and our local currency became valueless to much against dollar and euro. So there isn't a cheap device for us. But LG V30's price seems proper. I'm planning to buy it in the future. But I have to move on with my current phone for now
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As for the setting for QC? It has been requested quite a bit tbh and luckily lucchetto revamped x2's devicesettings to include a QuickCharge toggle and his implementation didn't even require modifying our selinux policies which was nice too, so it was an easy include for LineageOS 16.0. He is the maintainer for RevengeOS and his trees are currently LineageOS based which is why his commit was super easy to bring to LineageOS 16.0.
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Yeah this is a great news then! Thank you again and thanks @Lucchetto00
Dude, hello, I feel very sympathetic about your problem, now I have a super music as max2 and pro3, he is working very well now, if you need, you can contact me, thank you This is my gmail mailbox :[email protected]
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The price of the motherboard in China is very user-friendly, because after LeTV is gone, many people are willing to take out their equipment, and this is a better device ：五指交叉：
520GOOgle said:
Dude, hello, I feel very sympathetic about your problem, now I have a super music as max2 and pro3, he is working very well now, if you need, you can contact me, thank you This is my gmail mailbox :[email protected]
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The price of the motherboard in China is very user-friendly, because after LeTV is gone, many people are willing to take out their equipment, and this is a better device ：五指交叉：
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Hello. Thank you. I couldn't look at here for a while. Please check your inbox.
The prices on Aliexpress is too much for me because of the dollar rate in Turkey. We have financial issues nowadays and our inflation is high. So I need a better price to buy a motherboard.
Have a nice day!
N-Gage4ever said:
Hello. Thank you. I couldn't look at here for a while. Please check your inbox.
The prices on Aliexpress is too much for me because of the dollar rate in Turkey. We have financial issues nowadays and our inflation is high. So I need a better price to buy a motherboard.
Have a nice day!
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Hey Buddy. Dunno Worry. My support is with you.
Apologies if anybody said any bad thing to you on TG or here.
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-Rohit from India
rohit3192 said:
Hey Buddy. Dunno Worry. My support is with you.
Apologies if anybody said any bad thing to you on TG or here.
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Thank you Rohit! And I know the guy on your profile pic. He is famous Turkish singer who name is Barış Manço. I'm glad you like him! ?
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Hi everyone. George Hotz is currently being sued by Sony for cracking the PS3, he has opened a blog asking for help and support from people to help him in the dispute with Sony, here is his blog: http://geohotgotsued.blogspot.com/ and site http://geohot.com/
Now he announced live on tv and all over the media that he will be the first person to crack the SE Xperia Play when it comes out, now the idea is to start this bounty thread and help GeoHot with his dispute in return of help with cracking the bootloader in our x10's. I beleive that all Xperia devices are locked the same way and thus cracking the x10 will also help GeoHot cracking the Play in the future. But we need to approach George in the appropriate manner and ask for help that is why i am starting this thread. This will help us also for all next models like the Arc, Play, Pro, Neo etc. So lets gather some donations and then approach George asking for help.
So please all people that are willing to donate just post the amount in red so it can be easily seen to better update the total amount.
I will donate $20 CDN
Total:
there is already a bootloader cracking bounty thread.. why not just tally that up yourself instead of starting a new thread and expecting everyone to post again...
Im sorry if i have offended you..your post sounds rude. I know there is a bounty thread and that is old maybe half the people are not here anymore, also i did not start the thread and i cannot edit it, this is to help Geohot and him to help us. Like i said we need a solid basis and support, i cant just show him the old thread where it mentions nothing about him and expect him to help. If the OP of the thread wants to do that ok i have no problem with that.
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there is already a bootloader cracking bounty thread.. why not just tally that up yourself instead of starting a new thread and expecting everyone to post again...
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This is Different, learn to read ffs!
I'm not rich at the moment but $30USD I can support with.
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I'll take on the couting up amounts..
USD AMOUNT
70$
GBP AMOUNT (based on start of week x-rate - indicative only)
£32.15
EUR AMOUNT (based on start of week x-rate - indicative only)
51.47EUR
I'll donate a percentage of the final total, come the end of February.
I'll get in contact with GEOHOT via the methods I have at the moment, will let you know what he says he usually gets back to me quite quick.
I fail to see how this is any different?
A) This thread doesn't belong in Android Development.
B) This isn't any different than the other thread. Both threads are asking for money to give to someone to crack the bootloader. If Geohot wants to crack the X10 and if ever does, then I'm sure the money in the other thread would go to him.
C) The other thread is *only* 2 weeks old
D) This may all be a bit of 'negotiating' by Geohot. ie. Throw out the ridiculous lawsuit and I'll agree not to crack your SE bootloader. If not, I'll continue.
E) I don't think anyone is being rude but it's really a PITA (not the delicious kind) to come in the Development forum and see donation threads repeated ad naseum. He was simply stating facts.
Have anyone of you wrote him?
Sure it would be great if he want to helps us, but i don't think so
But you can ask him, for sure i will provide the informations that i have about our phones and i think the others won't make secrets too.
Regards
Bin4ry
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But you can ask him, for sure i will provide the informations that i have about our phones and i think the others won't make secrets too.
Regards
Bin4ry
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Bin4ry you have an awesome attitude... there are some really negative people on this board, but you're helpful and friendly. Just want to say you're appreciated on here. Cheers dude.
Bin4ry said:
Have anyone of you wrote him?
Sure it would be great if he want to helps us, but i don't think so
But you can ask him, for sure i will provide the informations that i have about our phones and i think the others won't make secrets too.
Regards
Bin4ry
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Hi Bin4ry this is why I started this thread to have some basis when we contact him and to show him that this is for him and that people are willing to support him in return of help with the bootloader cracking. Thank you for your help as the other person said you are really appreciated here and we could be where were at if it wasn't for you and the other devs.
People please stop complaining about the thread. If mods feel this should be moved or closed they can do so. I just believe we can make something out of this. So please if you want to help just post the amount or how you plan to help. Anyone that doesn't agree with the thread please don't post and start arguments., after all this is for all of us.
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Why don't you contact him first get a figure or an agreement go help then get donations. At the minute it could all be a waste of time. Contact him first see what he says
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excellent initiative
very good initiative here, hopefully our 'bounty' can cover some of the legal costs and help out a good Samaritan like ge0hot. Power to the people!
Great News!!! I've got a response!!!
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wtf are people talking about!
Geohot is just a glorified hacker who's a media whore. He didnt crack the ps3, Fail0verflow did and they didnt release the private keys, geohot did, all he did was make piracy an option for ps3 owners and cause honest consumers grief or at least he will do. Also he is just in it to get publicity as he thinks that some big company will hire him. Any good company will see through his stupidity. Sorry i just really dont like Geohot... I think the SG playstation podcast explains it pretty well.
I doubt he'll do it, when he tried to hack the ps3 before he failed and when others analysed his work it seemed like a very stupid way to do it.
He hasnt had that much experiance with android/mobile devices like j and z and all the other brilliant devs around here. He's not as great as you might think, he's just an average hacker with a big ego and a lot of publicity.
chiefy009 said:
Why don't you contact him first get a figure or an agreement go help then get donations. At the minute it could all be a waste of time. Contact him first see what he says
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Like I said I think we need basis (something we can show) to contact him and ask for help thus the thread... to show effort. Anyway since he already responded we can maybe offer to help pay for his x10 you guys decide.
To the person above.. he might be a lot of things but he did hack the iPhone and I think he is a good hacker despite ego media etc.. we need help with the bootloader and we got nothing to loose. So don't start arguments this is pointless like I said... if you don't like the idea don't post.
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To the person above.. he might be a lot of things but he did hack the iPhone and I think he is a good hacker despite ego media etc.. we need help with the bootloader and we got nothing to loose. So don't start arguments this is pointless like I said... if you don't like the idea don't post.
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i suppose, its just i dont trust him. I have a feeling he'll take all the credit when theres a 65+ page thread documenting various devs attempts at hacking the bootloader. Also i just feel like people praise him a bit too much so it annoys me.
I'll give him the sorta benifit of the doubt and hope that he actually does make some more progress with hacking the bootloader.
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Like I said I think we need basis (something we can show) to contact him and ask for help thus the thread... to show effort. Anyway since he already responded we can maybe offer to help pay for his x10 you guys decide.
To the person above.. he might be a lot of things but he did hack the iPhone and I think he is a good hacker despite ego media etc.. we need help with the bootloader and we got nothing to loose. So don't start arguments this is pointless like I said... if you don't like the idea don't post.
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Don't you think that he has enough money from donations he already received.
arj154 said:
i suppose, its just i dont trust him. I have a feeling he'll take all the credit when theres a 65+ page thread documenting various devs attempts at hacking the bootloader. Also i just feel like people praise him a bit too much so it annoys me.
I'll give him the sorta benifit of the doubt and hope that he actually does make some more progress with hacking the bootloader.
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I think the same way but still there is a big chance also to your previous post as far as I know ios and android are both Linux based but I also don't think bootloadr has anything to do with OS.
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Don't you think that he has enough money from donations he already received.
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This is what I am talking about... he might be a millionaire or have tons of donations it doesn't matter.. what matters is our effort and what we have to offer and show that we are a strong community that needs help.
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Lol.. i was banned from the SE forums.
For pointing out that the new range of phones don't meet standards.
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Remember the ad for the Touchpad? The one that uses "Works like nothing else" ?
As I'm sure you've probably already heard, Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:26 PM, Apple sent out an email ad that directly uses Hp's classic ad slogan.
What kind of marketing strategy is this supposed to be?
HP Using the Slogan
http://www.hp.com/united-states/webos/us/en/tablet/touchpad.html
Apple Using the Same Slogan
http://images.apple.com/dm/us/11/4831/i/ttl.gif
Apple tends to steal things straight like this all the time, one of many reasons I hate the company. Remember what Jobs said: Good artists copy, great artists steal.
HP won't be needing it anymore
I showed my apple fanboy friend the said evidence and all he said was "Apple probably did it first."
*facepalm*
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I showed my apple fanboy friend the said evidence and all he said was "Apple probably did it first."
*facepalm*
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This is exactly what happens with the fruity loyalists or should I say iDiots!
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This is exactly what happens with the fruity loyalists or should I say iDiots!
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Yep, they also think Apple invented the mouse first and the GUI "windowed" OS
ah but there is a subtle distinction, HP's is WORK and Apple is everything. Probably enough of a difference to get by a court.
Well, I guess if that's how you dig up dirt on the competition, then I'm all for it...
Apple actually says that their ipad2 does things. Hp is just saying that you will be surprised how buggy and slow their OS is after buying their tablet for 80% off retail. Basically HP was being sarcastic. Lose sound on your previously 500 dollar tablet on a daily basis and have to resort to command lines or restarting to get it back??? "Works like nothing else".
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Apple actually says that their ipad2 does things. Hp is just saying that you will be surprised how buggy and slow their OS is after buying their tablet for 80% off retail. Basically HP was being sarcastic. Lose sound on your previously 500 dollar tablet on a daily basis and have to resort to command lines or restarting to get it back??? "Works like nothing else".
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That apple product better do "things" when it costs at least 400 dollars
Also there's a patch in preware to restart the audio (pulse audio) with a press of a button. I guess you didn't take the advice of someone else to install preware when you were complaining about the lack of a video player that works?
I mean really, I am not sure the touchpad is for you. Perhaps you should sell it to someone who wants to develop for it at the price you paid for it? Not trying to be mean, but it really doesn't seem like you have tried doing much of anything other than complain. There's solutions out there, they just require you to root and install the community stuff, but this is xda after all and people should be used to doing those things.
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That apple product better do "things" when it costs at least 400 dollars
Also there's a patch in preware to restart the audio (pulse audio) with a press of a button. I guess you didn't take the advice of someone else to install preware when you were complaining about the lack of a video player that works?
I mean really, I am not sure the touchpad is for you. Perhaps you should sell it to someone who wants to develop for it at the price you paid for it? Not trying to be mean, but it really doesn't seem like you have tried doing much of anything other than complain. There's solutions out there, they just require you to root and install the community stuff, but this is xda after all and people should be used to doing those things.
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Ahhh, but in America, you are now taught (and shown) that you are entitled to have everything handed to you without actually working for it.
Successful entrepreneurs and businesses are punished with bigger taxes and people who can't cut the mustard have it spread for them by our liberal government.
Welfare mothers with 15 children drive Escalades around here.
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That apple product better do "things" when it costs at least 400 dollars
Also there's a patch in preware to restart the audio (pulse audio) with a press of a button. I guess you didn't take the advice of someone else to install preware when you were complaining about the lack of a video player that works?
I mean really, I am not sure the touchpad is for you. Perhaps you should sell it to someone who wants to develop for it at the price you paid for it? Not trying to be mean, but it really doesn't seem like you have tried doing much of anything other than complain. There's solutions out there, they just require you to root and install the community stuff, but this is xda after all and people should be used to doing those things.
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First, when HP made this ad the Touchpad was the same price as the iPad . . . I have preware, installed the first day I had the Touchpad, first thing I did with it after initial setup. I have done all due diligence to get this thing functional, and its not. The patch you speak of is not a fix. Its not a solution. Its exactly what you call it, a patch, over a gaping wound in the OS. Having to tap an icon to have it run the simple command line "stop pulseaudio && start pulseaudio" is not a fix. Its a ridiculous workaround that should never have had to exist in the first place. One thing I have found though is that users of WebOS are some of the largest apologists for GAPING bugs I have ever met, especially over on precentral. Reminds me of Windows Mobile days. Here is evidence that I knew about this patch before your kind of snotty reply: http://forums.precentral.net/3164593-post194.html
Don't worry, the Touchpad IS for me. WebOS is what's not for me. It stinks in its current form, which is sad because of how much potential it has.
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Ahhh, but in America, you are now taught (and shown) that you are entitled to have everything handed to you without actually working for it.
Successful entrepreneurs and businesses are punished with bigger taxes and people who can't cut the mustard have it spread for them by our liberal government.
Welfare mothers with 15 children drive Escalades around here.
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What are you even talking about? Tell me how to stop WebOS from losing sound, not how to restart it which I already knew using the Xterm method and which I already read about the patch over on precentral earlier today. Tell me how to get a semi functional browser which isn't ridiculously slow on WebOS. Not asking for anything to be handed to me. I am not the normal complainer who can't do 5 minutes of research. I have spent hours since I got this thing trying to fix bugs until I gave up and chose to wait for Android to be ported.
Also, in case anyone was wondering, my initial comment in this thread was a JOKE, which both of you took seriously. Remember what a joke is?
Such anger over an OS, lol. Linux always has bugs, it's just the nature of linux, even android has them
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Such anger over an OS, lol. Linux always has bugs, it's just the nature of linux, even android has them
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Not mad at the OS at all. Annoyed perhaps. Also annoyed at your response to what was a joke, which made several false assumptions.
I understand bugs completely. I don't understand how HP thought this thing was ready for primetime or how it was worth iPad prices in its current form.
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Not mad at the OS at all. Annoyed perhaps. Also annoyed at your response to what was a joke, which made several false assumptions.
I understand bugs completely. I don't understand how HP thought this thing was ready for primetime or how it was worth iPad prices in its current form.
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I suggest making it more obvious you're joking next time, lol. This is the internet after all.
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Yep, they also think Apple invented the mouse first and the GUI "windowed" OS
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They assume that everything was invented first by Apple. I told my friend about the new iOS notifications system on iOS 5 and how they, pretty much, stole it from android and his response was: "yea but look at how many things android has stolen." Talk about ignorance.
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Ahhh, but in America, you are now taught (and shown) that you are entitled to have everything handed to you without actually working for it.
Successful entrepreneurs and businesses are punished with bigger taxes and people who can't cut the mustard have it spread for them by our liberal government.
Welfare mothers with 15 children drive Escalades around here.
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That makes no sense as a rebuttle
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That makes no sense as a rebuttle
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It was a rather big stretch to tie in one's political viewpoint and observations with a posting on Apple stealing, lol.
You know, I kind of figured that it was an inside thing. Maybe HP and Apple are the same people?
Maybe it was- maybe it was all a test. I mean, why else would Apple do something like that. And it's gotten very little coverage mind you.
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You know, I kind of figured that it was an inside thing. Maybe HP and Apple are the same people?
Maybe it was- maybe it was all a test. I mean, why else would Apple do something like that. And it's gotten very little coverage mind you.
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vast tech conspiracy
Let's roll the clocks back a year.
In 2011, a collaboration was formed to develop a kernel for the sgs2 in the interest of improving battery life and performance, in addition to new features and tricks. Thus, from the combined efforts of netarchy and Ninpo(Hacre), Ninphetamine was born. After we took a step back, we saw that the features introduced in Ninphetamine (such as voltage control, gpu clock control, etc) went on to be adapted to other kernels, and even evolved to become more feature-rich as developers began to expand on the original designs. It is pretty safe to say that Ninphetamine was well received, and left its mark.
Now fast forward to today. Samsung has seen fit to release a new flagship, the sgs3, with its beast of a quad core Exynos chip.
In the interests of improving battery life and performance on the sgs3, Ninpo and I have decided to pool our collective minds on a kernel, through which we aim to improve the sgs3 experience for everyone... and raise an army of rabid naked bunnies with which to take over the world.
Ninphetamin3 has arrived.
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Current features/differences from stock
Updated to Samsung Update4 (LG8 sources)
Overclocking up to 1800mhz
CPU Voltage Control Interface
GPU Voltage and Speed Control Interface
Tweaked Deadline Scheduler by default
Compiler optimizations aimed at improving performance/battery (OMG RICE!)
Removal of Debug overhead for performance/battery improvement
Triangle Away compatible
Various other tweaks and alterations too numerous to waste text posting, see the github commits if you really want the gritty details
Source code:
All source code for the kernel can be found at the Ninphetamin3 Github repo, located at
https://github.com/Ninpo/ninphetamine3
In August 2011 a crack development unit left the SGS2 kernel scene, with patches they didn't commit. This duo promptly escaped from the harrassment of noobs to the outside where the sun shines. Today, their work still wanted by XDA and users of Samsung phones they return to the SGS3's good fortune. We came and found a problem...
Well several, actually. Samsung as usual, as is their wont, released a phone of epic proportions (seriously, this screen is huge guys), with typically beastly hardware inside and have yet again half assed the software side of things. Well...let's be fair, they quarter assed it this time as the ROM is at least pretty good. The kernel however...we know how this story ends right?
Wrong. We know how it begins. Samsung bash away at the Linux kernel like a fat kid on a brick who's been told there's chocolate inside, with all the finesse of an epileptic quadraplegic on the dance floor and release it as "good enough". In their defence, looking at the HTC One X, "good enough" is an overstatement, they'd have to actually forget to include a kernel for the great unibody failure of Taiwan to get a look in. That said, there has been unsurprisingly lots and lots of room for improvement, so...
...we're baaaaaaaack!
In a world plagued with terrible sequels the Ninphetamine team returns as a beacon, a rose among thorns, this time to the SGS3 with Ninphetamin3, a feature rich, fast and expectedly awesome kernel for the awesome piece of hardware that is the Samsung Galaxy S III and if nothing else we can at least show that the SGS3 is more than a fancy software upgrade over the SGS2 in an oversized package and that it does, in fact, contain some pretty fast and well performing hardware. The wait has been much shorter than it was for the SGS2 but here we are with the keys Samsung didn't want you to have until umpteen updates down the road to show you what your device can really do.
netarchy has already gone over the specifics and I know probably no-one is actually reading this post as they search frantically for the download links after getting about four words into the first post. However, I am going to include anyway that people had better read every single word in every single post up to and including the post containing download links because...
POST FIVE makes a return. Oh yes, the hall of shame, the collection of idiots, the grouping of morons, the box of ineptitude is back and I promise you right now will be every bit as brutal as the original if not more so. If you sit there reading this post and find yourself mouthing each word in silence as you read then please, leave this thread, it is not for you. You will end up in Post Five where you get a throroughly embarrassing yet deserved telling off from myself, you will want to cry to moderators however your cries shall fall upon the deafest of ears. This is not a thread for the stupid or the moronic, it is not a thread for the flash junkies who have to have "L" and "R" drawn on the bottom of their shoes to avoid confusion. If you don't know why you're flashing this kernel, other than of course the fact it's been put together by the best development team since Gates said to Allen "Hey...I have an idea...", then may I suggest you go and bother Gokhanmoral, he's far more pleasant than I.
For the developers, moderators and people who remember what Android 1.5 looked like (I'll give you a moment to finish vomiting) that remain, please proceed to the next post and I hope you enjoy using Ninphetamin3 and the subsequent updates as much as we enjoyed putting it together.
It is of course only natural to have people to thank with projects like this, even when you're as awesome as we are so without further ado...
I would like to personally thank netarchy for agreeing to come back on board with a new Ninphetamine project. He is, as he as always been since I've known him, my perfect foil, hence without whom Ninphetamin3 would not exist in the excellent shape that it is in. Thank you netarchy, it is an honour and a privelege to work with you again.
We would both like to thank:
Everyone who used Ninphetamine and managed to flash software to their SGS2 without having an aneurism, your enthusiasm is a big reason for why we're back here, doing it all again.
Gokhanmoral. This guy is a relentless soldier and full credit to him for picking up where Ninphetamine left off, improving and refining what we started and even laying foundations for us to return with some of his early work because yeah, we're good, but we're also lazy.
AndreiLux. Thanks to him for some of the fixes to the source he already had in place and thanks to him for putting the effort into pulling fixes and patches in from elsewhere so that I could lazily cherry pick them from his git hub.
Chainfire for making it so I could easily root my phone the day I got it.
Lenny, Fysi, HCDRJacob and jerdog, for flashing and testing our various alpha builds and being my guinea pigs.
The XDA admin team and mod staff for the latitude wider than Susan Boyle's expansive arse when it comes to my posting.
Last but not least, Samsung, for giving us a reason to come back.
Happy flashing folks but remember, Post Five awaits its first victim...
FAQ:
Q: Is the kernel compatible with AOSP/CM9?
A: A test build has now been published which is intended to be fully compatible with AOSP. So far, it has only been tested using the CM9 ROM.
Q: My camera preview is all messed up!
A: If you're using LFB based ROM or newer, you need version 1.2.x of the kernel.
Q: OMG I'm not stable when I overclock to X
A: Your phone likely cannot handle the overclock. Get over it, and use a lower clock speed.
Q: How to I adjust the voltages for the cpu?
A: You can either use SetCPU's voltage interface, or you can do it manually through the UV_mV_table interface (if you don't understand how to manually adjust the table, just use SetCPU).
Q: What are the voltage limits?
A: The ceiling is 1500mV, the floor is 600mV.
Q: How do I overclock the cpu?
A: Use a tool such as SetCPU to handle clock adjustments.
Q: Why is Deadline the only available I/O scheduler?
A: After extensive testing, we've come to the conclusion that Deadline represents the best balance between performance and overall user experience. If you think otherwise you are officially incorrect until we determine otherwise, and shall be subjected to regular beatings by our army of rabid naked bunnies... and/or a place in "Post 5."
Q: Do the exfat modules get loaded?
A: Yes.
Q: How do I use the init.d script support?
A: Busybox needs to be installed into /system/xbin and your scripts go into /system/etc/init.d/
Q: Help, SetCPU wants to set my voltage to over 9000!
A: SetCPU has millivolts hard coded as a unit of measurement. The numbers reported are actually in nanovolts. Use usual millivolt settings (900 for 900mV, 1200 for 1200mV etc) and the clock interface will automatically convert.
Q: How do I use the GPU control interface?
A: Currently you change the values by echoing new values into a specific device file. If you echo 6 values, this will modify the clock up/down thresholds, if you echo 4 values, this will change the GPU speed at each step. For example:
Code:
echo "160 266 350 440" > /sys/class/misc/gpu_clock_control/gpu_control
will restore default clocks.
Code:
cat /sys/class/misc/gpu_clock_control/gpu_control
cat /sys/class/misc/gpu_voltage_control/gpu_control
To see the current values for each setting.
Changelog
Code:
Revision 1.2.2:
- Updated to Samsung Update 4
- Freezes and Wifi dropout issues should be resolved on LG8 roms
Revision 1.2.1:
- Camera fix for LFB Roms
Revision 1.2.0:
- Updated to Samsung Update3 (LFB sources)
- Version bump to reflect base update
- Camera fix declared stable
Revision 1.1.1-AOSP:
-Implemented support for AOSP using commits from the CyanogenMod I9300 kernel.
Revision 1.1.0:
- A configuration option that was designed to keep more memory free
resulted in a huge degradation in performance over time. It has
reverted, and the minion responsible now resides at the bottom
of Crystal Lake.
- GPU Voltage and clock control added.
- The CPU should no longer lock at 1200mhz during GPU load
- No bunnies were harmed during the making of this build.
Revision 1.0.2:
- exfat modules not only load, but actually work!
(The culprit responsible has been reduced to a pile of ash)
- Undervolting floor lowered from 850mV to 600mV
- run-parts support added to init.rc for ROMs that allow use of /system/etc/init.d
Revision 1.0.1:
- The beast responsible for exfat modules not loading has been beaten
senseless with assorted blunt objects.
Revision 1.0.0:
- Initial release
- Overclocking to 1800mhz is possible, while possibly not stable on all phones.
Overclock at your own risk.
- Deadline tweaked and set as default I/O scheduler.
- Module exception to allow loading exfat modules
- SHA1 algorithm improvements
- CRC32 algorithm improvements
- CPU Voltage control interface implemented
- Debug overhead removed from config and assorted places in source code
Downloads
"Testing"
Ninphetamin3 1.2.2 (For LG8 and Newer ICS Roms)
Ninphetamin3-AOSP-test-1.1.1 (CWM flash) - Testing AOSP only build.
"Stable"
(LFB Roms)
Ninphetamin3 1.2.1 - Camera Fix for LFB Roms
Ninphetamin3 1.2.0
Ninphetamin3-cwm-1.2.0 CWM package
Flash with Odin or Heimdall unless marked as CWM flashable
Moron Purgatory
It was ugly. It was bloody. However, it was completely necessary. The original Post Five soon became a necessity not only as a pressure valve for me but as a beacon of comfort for the many MANY developers on XDA that are plagued by you the user. Not all of you are bad, however much like anything in life there are those examples of people that the laws of Darwin should have claimed long ago and I'm here as his sweeper.
Bottom line, if you're a grade A idiot, moron and/or buffoon that manages to make a post so spectacularly stupid or one that exhibits a clear lack of reading any of these first five posts then you will appear here and it will not be pretty. You'll likely cry, perhaps even soil yourselves and no-one will care.
Despite this warning, this post will no doubt soon be filled with shining examples of justification for euthanasia so be prepared for some serious
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Warm_ice said:
Still waiting for CM/AOSP/AOKP support. Wish it come soon.
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Well la de da, Warm_ice is STILL waiting less than twenty four hours after the thread was created guys, looks like we'd better wrap this one up, remove the links and close the thread because we didn't come up with the goods for Warm_ice on HIS schedule! Here's a hint champ, I don't care that you're still waiting and neither does anyone else. In fact I'm going to ask moderators for your IP address so that when we do release an AOSP/CM compatible version I can prevent you from downloading it. Why? Because I can and you're obviously the type of ungrateful impatient cretin that must be an absolute JOY to be around at birthdays and Christmas. "Wow thanks for all these free presents and all this effort mum and dad but I'M STILL WAITING FOR MY NEW CAR GOD YOU ARE SUCH FAILURES AS PARENTS!". At least now we know who paid for your shiny new SGS3 eh? Kindly retreat back to your basement hovel and flash someone else's kernel and go bother them, congratulations less than 100 posts in and not only did you make Post Five I'm actually annoyed at how boring your overinflated sense of entitled stupidity is.
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Is setcpu ok to use for over clocking? Some kernal devs don't recommend it for they're kernals, wanna check if it's ok for this one. Thanks.
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This post gave me a headache. I almost skipped over it, then I noticed that you claim to be from Britain, so you're either an illiterate moron or seriously lazy. Given that you completely missed netarchy's advocacy of using SetCPU I'm going to assume both, since the fact you're obviously an illiterate moron isn't up for debate. Why are you typing "kernal" when this thread is riddled with examples of the correct spelling? "Some kernal devs don't recommend it for they're kernals", what? KernEl developers are not kernEls, how could they be? What are you basing this outrageous claim on? Did you mean "their" instead? Would you mind taking off the boxing gloves next time you decide to post, read the damn thread and put more effort in than a first year primary school student please, it's embarrassing and offensive. Like your posts.
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@ Hacre
Just want to say my piece and I shall be gone.
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Ah the classic "before I've finished my last word I'll be gone off this soapbox faster than I fail to satisfy a woman" tactic.
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I do not condone some of the posts in other development threads that were way too off-topic
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That's nice, however what you do or do not condone is as important to the world as what colour dump I took this morning in precise HTML values.
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, and I do understand your perspective in keeping this thread clean from all the banal talks, etc, but nevertheless one should bear in mind of the 2 points:
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You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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I am sure you have done a lot in the xda community, but I cannot help to feel that your attitude resembles your country during the colonial days.
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Thanks for the compliment, Great Britain was awesome back then.
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There were a few posts that was purposely created just for the sake of some humour, and I know those posts were from some distinguished developers, like yourself. Perhaps you guys have gone a long way back. However, when someone posts some other banal talks, they were immediately taken to post 5. For those who doesn't know, they will think that you are practicing elitism and double standards. One set of rules for people you know and respect, and another set for people you did not give a hoot.
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When someone posts what is obviously a joke dumb question it can either be taken for what it is and promptly ignored or removed by moderators. I'm not going to respond to every "hurr this kernal not work on my HTC" post that's just trying to get themselves into Post Five and yes, it happens, a lot. It's not "One set of rules for people I know", it's one set of rules for the incredibly stupid and those rules haven't changed since the last thread.
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Sure, you can say that you don't give a damn what others think about you, but hey remember it is a reflection of your well-being. I do hope that you do not do this to feed your own ego.
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Here you go again. It's highly amusing that you're sitting on a high horse preaching at me, but you'd have a lot more weight behind your post if you stopped trying to sound clever and misusing words/sayings. There is nothing about this thread that is any kind of reflection of my well being. Both my physical and mental health are fine and if the internet thought that either of those were not, well, I care less about that than I would if I heard the news that your hands had fallen off and could never post again.
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The other thing I find it offending in post 5 is the type of insults you have put there. While it is still your prerogative to put what is written there, do bear in mind that you never should have brought the poster's family members in the picture. What wrong have they done to deserve this? You can insult the poster's intelligence, or rather the lack of it, you can insult their laziness for not reading and searching, but never never bring those insults into the family.
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Again your completely misinformed view is here to haunt you. I've insulted no-one's family in Post Five or any other post in this thread. If you properly understood what you were being morally outraged by, you'd understand that. I will point out however, that you don't actually care about the rights and wrongs of this thread because if you did, you'd have hit the Report Post button and moved on. Instead what you are is a member of the morality brigade and like me with stupid people, you salivate with delight at the thought of giving someone a good stern talking to when they offend your moral compass. The difference? I'm good at it.
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@ those who thanked Hacre in post 5
I know you guys had a good laugh when seeing those comments in post 5, but thanking Hacre for those laughter at the expense of the poster's noobness, means that you are condoning those insults, and in turn, made Hacre justified his insults. Do have some consideration and humility.
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Right, can you sod off with trying to sound clever and instead coming across as a complete moron? Humility has nothing whatsoever to do with people finding something funny or not. Abstaining from clicking the Thanks button doesn't suddenly make someone humble. No-one needs to justify my ridicule of the ineptly stupid for me and I justify it by the fact that they deserve it. There's no excuse for dumb unless you're genuinely mentally ill so if you provide me with your Downs Certificate I'll gladly apologise to you.
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@ those who posts nonsensical comments
This is a development thread, not a helpdesk! Neither is it a wishlist! Just report the issues and bugs and attach your logcat so that it helps the developer quickly resolve the issue and improve their next builds. If you just post for the sake of quick fix, then this is definitely not the right place for you. Neither do you have the right phone.
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There's quite an irony here, in the fact that the main difference between your post and other nonsensical posts is they're a lot quicker to read and deal with. You've managed to type a wall of text while saying nothing of use nor consequence.
g00ndu said:
Everyone here, please spare a thought for others. All that is needed is a little consideration for others. It will go a long way in making xda a better place for everyone.
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So would you not posting. Unless you can provide your official Internet Morality Police identification you're still just waffling about nothing at this point. I'm sorry that your life is so devoid of meaning that a complete stranger on the internet ridiculing the stupidity of some other strangers on the internet compelled you to make a post proving that you're one of the stupid strangers on the internet. I mean looking at your post history, the last thing you did of any remote consequence was winzip up a ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S and the only thing less relevant than that device today is you. The rest of your post history is a veritable who's who of the uninteresting and dumb. I actually predicted that would be the case when eyeing up your post to thank ratio, almost THREE THOUSAND POSTS in four years, my god man, that's more white noise than an old detuned television.
g00ndu said:
Peace and good day!
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Oh
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P/S: I do not own a GSIII.
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This just proves the point I made earlier. At least I am genuine in my intentions when it comes to a: contributing to this community and b: swatting morons, I don't hide any of it behind anything. You on the other hand had no business being anywhere near this thread or this forum, leading to the conclusion that you're just trolling for perceived wrongs to put right.
If you want a wrong to put right, you can put a massive tick in your win column by never posting again, ever, you small minded, illiterate, self-important wishy washy excuse for a human being. Now kindly ride off to another forum upon your mighty steed and find someone else to white knight for.
avocco said:
[Talking about undervolting]It may well be stupid to you but it does give a good guideline on how far we can push our devices. Considering your kernel does indeed support UV its only natural for anyone to discuss this.
Easy with the language, some may take offence
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I couldn't give an aerial fornication who finds what offensive.
Person A's UV findings give a good guideline on how far PERSON A can push their device. It doesn't give you, me, Person B or anyone guideline at all. One person can drop 100mV and be stable, others can't drop a drop below what they're running at without major issues. It is an utterly pointless discussion for an utterly pointless thread participated in by utterly pointless people like yourself. The fact you think it's a guideline at all demonstrates you shouldn't be flashing stuff to your phone, let alone playing with voltages.
Oh I also think you'll find it is I, the co-owner of this thread, that gets to determine what is and isn't on topic. Development and kernel feedback is "on-topic". Pointless discussion about who can reach what voltage on their individual phone is as useful to this thread as you lot comparing weight and colour of your morning ****e and whether it floated or not. So kindly shove it up your arse and get out.
Ohhh boy ladies and gentlefolk, we got us a doozy...
compo_ab said:
Ok let me clear a few things up. I apologize for calling this kernel crap, that was uncalled for, childish and very ungrateful.
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Smartest thing you've ever said on this forum bud.
compo_ab said:
I am sorry for that, you guys obviously bust your asses doing this stuff and it seems like Im the only one that did not like it.
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When you get to a point where you realise you're a minority, here's a hint: you should stop f**king talking.
compo_ab said:
Let me point out that I do not know much about this stuff, I mean I know enough to be here, but not much beyond.
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Yeah you demonstrated this admirably with your first post. You don't have to keep reaffirming the fact that you're a simpleton.
compo_ab said:
I was not really speaking about post 5 to be honest, yes it is offensive but I can understand your frustration when people say dumb things. I was talking more about the grandiose introduction your British friend wrote. I see people like that every day. Typically they have advanced stages of Schizophrenia and their delusions of grandeur are somewhat justified (I am a psychiatrist).
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OK. I'm going to give you this one chance to cut the bull**** because this isn't even remotely close to even psychiatry 101. You're not a psychiatrist. You've misspelled schizophrenia at least once while replying to me, one would expect a psychiatrist to do better than that. Not only that an actual professional would insist upon more exposure than some posts of text on the internet, because text on the internet is largely diagnostically useless. You know why? I could be anyone talking about anything and any amount of it could be utterly made up. You cannot diagnose a mental illness over the internet based upon some text at least not without a pattern to contrast against. You do not have this so you're either a f**king idiot psych student who after five minutes of breast feeding from a psych teacher you think you know the planet, or you're really a bat**** insane psych student for whom five minutes diagnosing a Twilight loving vampire embracing fat female means you know how to spot a shut in. The very fact that you're so bad at this yet decide to come and lecture ME is utterly offensive, not to me because you made it so trivial to dismiss you, but to the people who like to read good entries to post 5 and are yet let down by the fact some gutter trash like you saw fit to **** his opinion on my thread and my posts and therefore left himself open to ridicule. One can only hope your self esteem can handle this because your sadness ridden posts suggest you cannot. It truly would be a loss to...someone...no one on XDA of course, if you decided to kill yourself.
(Please do).
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This is just a guy with a severe God complex who mummy and daddy spoiled a little much. If you look back into their past you'll see they use nicknames like omnipotent and so on. Anyway it is still none of my business and I do apologize for being rude. Thanks for the work on behalf of the noob community.
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Time for some truth, since you're apparently an expert.
My father wasn't around much and my mother left before I even had any kind of cognitive skills or for a simpler explanation, was gone before I knew what it was like to be two years old. So not only was I not spoiled, I was arguably neglected. My past nicknames are, from 1994: Bundy (because of Al Bundy, my name is Alex), Bunders, Jubei, Ninpo and Hacre. Nothing in there is remotely related to omnipotence of having any kind of God complex at all. I've backed my rebuttal up with some real, personal, get to know me, balls to the wall honesty...are you as brave? Please tell us what drives you to pretend to be a psychiatrist on the internet when you can't even diagnose someone who pretends to have a God complex for the sake of entertaining his followers, but really, honestly, doesn't give a solitary f**k. Answers on a postcard please, you utter, utter moron.
Didn't expect some f**king honesty in my response did you? Diagnose that you armchair psych piece of flotsam.
Already bookmarked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27623029&postcount=5
Ok download link is up, I'm too lazy and too full of beer to make a CWM flashable zip so unless someone else does and offers it as a sacrifice to the altar of Gods netarchy and Ninpo to earn a place in my thanks section, it'll likely be done tomorrow.
Enjoy folks, try and break her.
Hacre said:
Ok download link is up, I'm too lazy and too full of beer to make a CWM flashable zip so unless someone else does and offers it as a sacrifice to the altar of Gods netarchy and Ninpo to earn a place in my thanks section, it'll likely be done tomorrow.
Enjoy folks, try and break her.
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Already subscribed and added this awesome kernel to my REF http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
Unfortunately i run out of thanks today but i promise i'll do it tomorrow
hai will this work on galaxy note???
TheDeadCPU said:
hai will this work on galaxy note???
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Lmao wtf?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
TheDeadCPU said:
hai will this work on galaxy note???
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Dude dont you will brick your phone.
daraj said:
Dude dont you will brick your phone.
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Nah he's just trolling Tdc probably wants to be first person to ask a moronic question...
TheDeadCPU said:
hai will this work on galaxy note???
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Go away Mr. Løkås
Flashed it through mobile odin,overclocked to 1800 using setcpu,on stock rom,scored 6600 on quadrant,phone rebooted twice while peforming antutu.
Thanks.
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rock2702 said:
Flashed it through mobile odin,overclocked to 1800 using setcpu,on stock rom,scored 6600 on quadrant,phone rebooted twice while peforming antutu.
Thanks.
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Great story.
Kernel mustard! *boom*
Bit random but any chance the kernel gurus can make this work with the wretched Sky Go (which refuses to work with most non-stock kernels)?
dave_uk said:
Kernel mustard! *boom*
Bit random but any chance the kernel gurus can make this work with the wretched Sky Go (which refuses to work with most non-stock kernels)?
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Have you tried it?
Hacre said:
Have you tried it?
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Yup. Sticks on loading without getting anywhere although could just be me because Voodoo OTA's behaving oddly.
Should it work?
Can someone plz tell me how to flash kernel? Thxxx!
AndreiLux said:
Can someone plz tell me how to flash kernel? Thxxx!
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With Odin ( .tar in pda ) or Mobile Odin ( .tar in kernel )
Lol didn't check the name
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Can be verified if zerohedge . com article "The NSA Has Inserted Its Code Into Android OS, Or Three Quarters Of All Smartphones" is right and what can be done?
Sorry I can not post the link as I am a new user.
Geronimo1966 said:
Can be verified of zerohedge . com article "The NSA Has Inserted Its Code Into Android OS, Or Three Quarters Of All Smartphones" is right and what can be done?
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Don't be a terrorist?
Berties123 said:
Don't be a terrorist?
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Sorry I do not like big brother is watching me. So any information how to tackle is more then welcome.
It's open source so some millions of developers could have a look...
dancress said:
It's open source so some millions of developers could have a look...
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Yes but rather thin... as when used a customized ROM how to verify the NSA code is deleted?
I would also love some more information on this. I'd like to believe that cyanogen and other roms built from source have excluded it.
So... does anyone knows about this? What code is it exactly? Did any developer had a look at it ? Or we are supposed to be afraid or uncle sam?
Jeff Zemlin, the executive director of the Linux Foundation, says the NSA didn’t add any obvious means of eavesdropping. “This code was peer-reviewed by a lot of people,” he says.
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Bloomberg News
To the best of my knowledge, the code is actually security enhancements. As much as they love compromising our privacy, it's not in the government's interest to have the phones of businessmen, politicians, etc compromised by a third party. They might even be helping the average Joe for once.
They did the same thing with linux, and no one found any nefarious code there.
I believe the government also uses some open-source tools for its server needs (Prism must need some advanced software ), so it makes sense they contribute back.
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Don't be a terrorist?
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Geronimo1966 said:
Sorry I do not like big brother is watching me. So any information how to tackle is more then welcome.
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Yep you should be scared they may know you poop with on your phone.
Why should you care if your not a terrorist. And your talking about tackling the nsa are you one? If not stfu nobody cares.
MidnightDevil said:
So... does anyone knows about this? What code is it exactly? Did any developer had a look at it ? Or we are supposed to be afraid or uncle sam?
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Yep be scared of America there bad go to another country and be forced to be a suicide bomber.
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bbrad said:
Yep you should be scared they may know you poop with on your phone.
Why should you care if your not a terrorist. And your talking about tackling the nsa are you one? If not stfu nobody cares.
Yep be scared of America there bad go to another country and be forced to be a suicide bomber.
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Honestly, the fact that you don't care doesn't mean anyone else doesn't.
Maybe you should look upon the dictionary and look for "privacy". Meanwhile, while you're at it, study some english. Might do you some good.
MidnightDevil said:
Honestly, the fact that you don't care doesn't mean anyone else doesn't.
Maybe you should look upon the dictionary and look for "privacy". Meanwhile, while you're at it, study some english. Might do you some good.
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Privacy is locking the bathroom door.
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Source ?
Whats the source of this information ?
Whose privacy is enhanced - ours or theirs?
Embluss said:
To the best of my knowledge, the code is actually security enhancements. As much as they love compromising our privacy, it's not in the government's interest to have the phones of businessmen, politicians, etc compromised by a third party. They might even be helping the average Joe for once.
They did the same thing with linux, and no one found any nefarious code there.
I believe the government also uses some open-source tools for its server needs (Prism must need some advanced software ), so it makes sense they contribute back.
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Whose privacy is enhanced - ours or theirs? Although the NSA might be interested in protecting US citizens from being spied upon by other intelligence service they want total access to anyones data for themselves, irrespective of whether they are businessmen, lawyers, politicians, civil right activist, hackers or terrorist. Everyone. Saying that there is nothing to worry about if one is not a terrorist is PROPAGANDA.
Who believes that the security services are only interested in terrorists might well be short sighted.
I am surprised that this issue has not generated more interest. Perhaps the majority of Android programmers and users do not care much about being under mass surveilance. BTW, there is no privacy in the bathroom if you've got your smartphone with you.
guptashubham123 said:
Whats the source of this information ?
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See:
pcfascist said:
Bloomberg News
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SELinux
The enhancements they're referring to are the SELinux extensions for Android.
The article is obviously a bit paranoid about what the NSA is adding to Android (who wouldn't be, #amirite) but the SELinux extensions are a framework that adds needed access controls, etc to the mainline security model for linux and by extension: Android.
If you don't like it, you can switch to BBOs or WindowsPhone or iOS...I'm sure those are much safer.
Although I'm disgusted by the disclosures in re the NSA and the direction this country has taken, I'm happy to see the SELinux extensions working their way into Android, I want my device to be as safe as possible.
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The enhancements they're referring to are the SELinux extensions for Android.
The article is obviously a bit paranoid about what the NSA is adding to Android (who wouldn't be, #amirite) but the SELinux extensions are a framework that adds needed access controls, etc to the mainline security model for linux and by extension: Android.
If you don't like it, you can switch to BBOs or WindowsPhone or iOS...I'm sure those are much safer.
Although I'm disgusted by the disclosures in re the NSA and the direction this country has taken, I'm happy to see the SELinux extensions working their way into Android, I want my device to be as safe as possible.
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I'm not paranoid I could care less if they spy on me lol. So could the rest of family if you don't have nothing to hide not worth worrying about. Not saying your a bomber LOL or you shouldn't be worried just saying I'm not.
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bbrad said:
Privacy is locking the bathroom door.
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As long as you leave you phone outside the bathroom (or - better - remove its battery)... :cyclops:
But seriously:
All this shouldn't have ever become legal!
The law desperately needs to be changed if it allows interception of private communication on such a large scale. Not only this violates the Fourth Amendment... confidentiality of private communication was always a good indicator of a lawful state and freedom of its people. And one of the major factors of the so called "checks and balances" system. Depriving people of their right to communicate confidentially effectively removes their control powers because they cannot organise freely, without being supervised.
This creates a long term foundation for tyranny...
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As long as you leave you phone outside the bathroom (or - better - remove its battery)... :cyclops:
But seriously:
All this shouldn't have ever become legal!
The law desperately needs to be changed if it allows interception of private communication on such a large scale. Not only this violates the Fourth Amendment... confidentiality of private communication was always a good indicator of a lawful state and freedom of its people. And one of the major factors of the so called "checks and balances" system. Depriving people of their right to communicate confidentially effectively removes their control powers because they cannot organise freely, without being supervised.
This creates a long term foundation for tyranny...
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Indeed!
Freedom is already threatened, if people cannot trust that they can communicate freely in privacy. When Big Data meets Big Brother it's freedom's biggest nightmare as our civil liberties are at risk. The NSA mass surveillance already becomes normalized by them sharing (selected) information with FBI, CIA, military, foreign intelligence services and governments. It's reach is way beyond tracking terrorists. I hope there will be ways to stop Western democracies from turning into police states.
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I'm not paranoid I could care less if they spy on me lol. So could the rest of family if you don't have nothing to hide not worth worrying about. Not saying your a bomber LOL or you shouldn't be worried just saying I'm not.
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This is the most asinine reasoning I've ever heard, and it seems to be repeated on a daily basis by people who feel like they're somehow exempt from suspicion.
You DO realize that once you come up on the radar of law enforcement that you're automatically assumed to be guilty? This stockpile of information will then become a treasure trove of valuable data on every minor infraction you've ever committed whether intentionally or not. Given that the legal code is full of over 10,000 distinct crimes, it's quite likely that you're guilty of something. You might also consider that the law changes over time and that laws might be enacted which you will retroactively be found guilty of.
TL;DR All the moral high ground in the world won't help you if the government decides to prosecute you. They can afford to stay in court forever; you can't.
EFF Tips for talking to the police
Is this a clone of the Omate?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wear...MA-3G-Bluetooth-MTK6572-3-0Mp/1815740935.html
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Probably yeah...I won't be surprised if it's 99% TS...
Who cares for backers when you can take the money from 3rd party seller and no one can't do anything about it...
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Omate doesn't make these devices. Pretty much anybody with enough money can buy these from Umeox/Mediatek in bulk and brand them as their own.
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Omate doesn't make these devices. Pretty much anybody with enough money can buy these from Umeox/Mediatek in bulk and brand them as their own.
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Will the omate, aw...etc custom rom work with the z8? I mean I could try but it would be a waste of 150 bucks.
Copycat
Lokifish Marz said:
Omate doesn't make these devices. Pretty much anybody with enough money can buy these from Umeox/Mediatek in bulk and brand them as their own.
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This is NOT a X201. This is a low end copycat by a "shanzai" bandit company.
@llepen
So this was the 1:1 copy you mentioned elsewhere? I didn't examine the images in detail so my mistake. Wonder who they are sourcing the PCBA's through.
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@llepen
So this was the 1:1 copy you mentioned elsewhere? I didn't examine the images in detail so my mistake. Wonder who they are sourcing the PCBA's through.
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yes 1:1 copycat of the 512MB+4GB not made by us (Umeox factory) but by a local PCB maker which has copied the circuitry (even the design flaws), it's common in China so we usually add one or two resistors that we actually do not connect to make them lose more time figuring out why we added them. That's the funny part, the problem with the firmware we provide, they can boot it on their units... real bandit work
smart! you should have added more incorrct resistors. To the point wher they burn whole device
MT6572 - Umeox x201??
Could you please clarify...
MT6572 is the chipset used in these units, right?
Umeox x201 is the firmware or stock ROM used on these units?
TrueSmart, Sim Valley AW-414/420, Vapirius AX-3, XTouch are variants of ...?
What other variants are out there?
Thank you.
x201 is the Umeox model number.
AW-414/TrueSmart prototype sample 512/4 2100
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which part you dont't understand?
1. that they have stolen the PCB design to make a perfect 1:1 copy of omate truesmart
2. or that the stolen design had two design flaws introduced specifically on purpose, to make this stealing useless?
your Z8 has faulty transistors in it. It won't work sometimes.
cosurgi said:
which part you dont't understand?
1. that they have stolen the PCB design to make a perfect 1:1 copy of omate truesmart
2. or that the stolen design had two design flaws introduced specifically on purpose, to make this stealing useless?
your Z8 has faulty transistors in it. It won't work sometimes.
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Well, the stolen design has the same spurious resistors on it the real x201s have, so unless the thieves have connected them up in a way that is different from how the x201s were wired, the result is the same.
In any case, don't buy a cheaper knock-off of an x201 device from these thieves. They are cheaper for a reason.
You will find you have the same problems with the firmware as us TrueSmart owners do, anyway. Buy a used TrueSmart off eBay and it will probably be cheaper anyway.
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Open and honest.
@ Lokifish Marz - Thanks for the answer
cosurgi said:
which part you dont't understand?
1. that they have stolen the PCB design to make a perfect 1:1 copy of omate truesmart
2. or that the stolen design had two design flaws introduced specifically on purpose, to make this stealing useless?
your Z8 has faulty transistors in it. It won't work sometimes.
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@ cosurgi - I asked what X201 meant and about the variants - you're so intoxicated with your ranting that you didn't read the questions. You should really vent your frustrations at the manufacturers of the Z8.
Most company's copy each other even Apple, Google. Your real issue is not the 'stealing', but rather that they copied something that you may be associated too, else you'd be complaining about a lot of company's even your own who I'm sure at some point have copied something.
If you have any measurable proofs that the Z8 is inferior to the x201, please enlighten us? I'm not saying that the Z8 is better nor that the Omate is better, because I don't have any evidence.
As user 'trent999' pointed out your claim that "your Z8 has faulty transistors in it. It won't work sometimes" is also untrue. If the Z8 manufacturers have acted illegally then you need to deal with them directly if there is a patent or any type of copyright on the x201?
XDA is based in openness without prejudice, anyone can one post any copied device or software as long as its legal to do so without having to feel any repercussions. You're feedback/reply is most welcome, but with a little professionalism please. :fingers-crossed:
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@ Lokifish Marz - Thanks for the answer
XDA is based in openness without prejudice, anyone can one post any copied device or software as long as its legal to do so without having to feel any repercussions. You're feedback/reply is most welcome, but with a little professionalism please. :fingers-crossed:
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I've been a member of the xda forums for a very long time, although I am not an active contributor as anyone can tell from my post count. While this post adds nothing to your original thread, I wanted to comment on how welcome your reply was. It's been a long time since I've seen a response to a rant so well written in both syntax and tone. For a moment I was transported to 2005 with an HTC Wizard in my pocket!
Thanks Again,
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please accept my apologies.
Also I'm sympathetic to omate, because creating the PCB design was expensive, and the thieves didn't need to pay that upfront cost.
Of course would be much better if it was open sourced (the PCB) but it is difficult to find experts willing to work for free IMHO.
Ideal if omate paid experts and immediately open sourced their PCB design, but IMHO that's a receipe for suicide, since other manufacturers didn't pay the experts so they can sell their units for lower price.
Well they do a better job of being honest about the specs, such as megapixels of the camera, not being waterproof, processor speed MHz, additional accessories, companion app still not working, Play store, etc, etc. And their shipment dates are probably also not half a year off. So I'm many ways this "fake" watch is actually more honest and real than the Omate version.
cosurgi said:
please accept my apologies.
Also I'm sympathetic to omate, because creating the PCB design was expensive, and the thieves didn't need to pay that upfront cost.
Of course would be much better if it was open sourced (the PCB) but it is difficult to find experts willing to work for free IMHO.
Ideal if omate paid experts and immediately open sourced their PCB design, but IMHO that's a receipe for suicide, since other manufacturers didn't pay the experts so they can sell their units for lower price.
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@cosurgi - No love lost here. - it is really really tough when ones hard work seems to be or goes unappreciated.
@pizzaman79 - it must be annoying waiting so long and its no compensation, but most large projects, ventures are delayed, due to the sheer complexity from planning to delivery to post support. I'm sure Laurent Le Pen is under a lot of pressure trying to deliver on time.
I take it you're still waiting for yours?
It is amazing how much technology they have packed into a little device. If the battery life was longer (and i know its difficult without changing the thickness) it would be a legend of a device - minus the delivery issues. :fingers-crossed:
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it must be annoying waiting so long and its no compensation, but most large projects, ventures are delayed, due to the sheer complexity from planning to delivery to post support. I'm sure Laurent Le Pen is under a lot of pressure trying to deliver on time.
I take it you're still waiting for yours?
It is amazing how much technology they have packed into a little device. If the battery life was longer (and i know its difficult without changing the thickness) it would be a legend of a device - minus the delivery issues. :fingers-crossed:
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I got mine a few days ago. I think it's an amazing piece of hardware. If only they would have been more honest in the pr. Now they had to announce disappointment after disappointment. It's quite a long list if you add it all up. And that's such a shame, because what happens at a psychological level is this:
People read about the TrueSmart on Kickstarter and get excited and become a backer. Then they get disappointing news ten times in a row. One happy feeling, followed by ten sad feelings. Until all the excitement is gone.
It would be better to start with lower expectations and maybe 25% less backers, and add positive news after positive news so people and the press get more and more excited in stead of less and less.
Tl;Dr the hardware is great, but will it be good enough to make up for the psychology of their pr?
"Shame shame I know your name"
So for new buyers the following issue still remain?
1. 1GB version runs 1Ghz instead of 1.3 Ghz
2. Not certified dust or waterproof.
3. Using the charging cradle doesn't allow pressing the buttons while charging, such as to snooze or disable an alarm.
4. Inserting a SD card voids the warranty for water resistance.
5. Have to apply the security patch.
Any others issues?
Would there be any benefit in buying the Z8 to compare? They only have the 512MB /4GB model. I reckon other than point 3 above it'll be very similar.
Between the EC309 & Omate + other x201 models which yields better battery life in real life use?
Is there an alternative to the Omate?