Frustrated with the 168 update - Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion

Can someone explain to me the logic behind Huawei's decision to skip over the 161 update for many markets, and only giving us the 168 update that brings nothing but the June security patch?
We were promised that camera tweaks are on the way, and I was desperate for this update as I find this camera, and as great as it is, to be inconsistent in terms of colors and exposure. But after weeks of waiting, we got an update that delivers no tweaks and improvements to the cameras or the performance and UI of the phone.
I'm starting to get sick of Huawei's decision to spoil some markets with their software, like China for example, and screwing the majority of the world with their slow, and in this case, meaningless updates. The OnePlus 7 Pro, Note 10, or the next Pixel 4 are looking like a great option if Huawei keeps on going with such pace in regards to updates.

OnePlus 7 Pro camera is ****

salemsayed said:
OnePlus 7 Pro camera is ****
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Not with it's latest update. And even without the update, you can easily install a Gcam port that gives you pretty close pictures to those you get from the Pixel.
Anyways, I'm not saying I'm ditching my P30 Pro in the coming few days, but Huawei's update policy is slowly pushing me out of their door.

Maher.k22 said:
Can someone explain to me the logic behind Huawei's decision to skip over the 161 update for many markets, and only giving us the 168 update that brings nothing but the June security patch?
We were promised that camera tweaks are on the way, and I was desperate for this update as I find this camera, and as great as it is, to be inconsistent in terms of colors and exposure. But after weeks of waiting, we got an update that delivers no tweaks and improvements to the cameras or the performance and UI of the phone.
I'm starting to get sick of Huawei's decision to spoil some markets with their software, like China for example, and screwing the majority of the world with their slow, and in this case, meaningless updates. The OnePlus 7 Pro, Note 10, or the next Pixel 4 are looking like a great option if Huawei keeps on going with such pace in regards to updates.
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I got version 168 yesterday; yes no camera improvement was mentioned in the change log, but I noticed the difference in terms of quality especially in 5x-10x zoom. I like the color now compare in the previous version. Maybe they skipped 161 due to over exposure of highlights (like sky) when you took a photo

IamNumber25 said:
I got version 168 yesterday; yes no camera improvement was mentioned in the change log, but I noticed the difference in terms of quality especially in 5x-10x zoom. I like the color now compare in the previous version. Maybe they skipped 161 due to over exposure of highlights (like sky) when you took a photo
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Can you check the version in the camera app?
I'm asking because the 168 doesn't bring any improvements to the images processing, it's only a security patch update.

IamNumber25 said:
I got version 168 yesterday; yes no camera improvement was mentioned in the change log, but I noticed the difference in terms of quality especially in 5x-10x zoom. I like the color now compare in the previous version. Maybe they skipped 161 due to over exposure of highlights (like sky) when you took a photo
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It's the same camera, same selfie video bug even

Maher.k22 said:
Can you check the version in the camera app?
I'm asking because the 168 doesn't bring any improvements to the images processing, it's only a security patch update.
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Same version but I can say there's really a difference in quality especially in zoom

IamNumber25 said:
Same version but I can say there's really a difference in quality especially in zoom
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Again, that's impossible, as the 168 update is only a security patch update. It's size is 124mb for a reason, it didn't even bring performance improvements.
Anyways, you can go to settings/software update/current version, and you can see that it's only for updating the security patch.

Maher.k22 said:
Again, that's impossible, as the 168 update is only a security patch update. It's size is 124mb for a reason, it didn't even bring performance improvements.
Anyways, you can go to settings/software update/current version, and you can see that it's only for updating the security patch.
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It doesn't mean that when it's security patch is listed, it doesn't have camera improvement.
I've observed how huawei works their OTA, they don't usually list all fixes in the changelog even in my P10 at Mate 10 pro before because I monitor changes in firmware finder app before the actual release
Camera app is less 60Mb only and it only need few tweaks to improve.
130Mb is big enough for many minor tweaks

IamNumber25 said:
It doesn't mean that when it's security patch is listed, it doesn't have camera improvement.
I've observed how huawei works their OTA, they don't usually list all fixes in the changelog even in my P10 at Mate 10 pro before because I monitor changes in firmware finder app before the actual release
Camera app is less 60Mb only and it only need few tweaks to improve.
130Mb is big enough for many minor tweaks
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Bro, why are you debating something that you can easily find on XDA and Huawei forums? Huawei themselves, said that the reason why many markets didn't get the 161 that is focused on bringing camera improvements, is because it has compatibility issues with phones released outside of China and the few markets that will receive it. The 168 update is only, and again, only been pushed to bring the latest security patch.
You can even sideload the latest version of the camera app, but you will see zero improvements in image processing, as the improvements were only pushed in the 161 and 162 updates.

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Bro, why are you debating something that you can easily find on XDA and Huawei forums? Huawei themselves, said that the reason why many markets didn't get the 161 that is focused on bringing camera improvements, is because it has compatibility issues with phones released outside of China and the few markets that will receive it. The 168 update is only, and again, only been pushed to bring the latest security patch.
You can even sideload the latest version of the camera app, but you will see zero improvements in image processing, as the improvements were only pushed in the 161 and 162 updates.
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LOL. I'm not debating, I'm telling you what I've observed because I used the camera a lot, more than you use it. I'm a photographer and I can see the difference from the previous version. Go out and test it.

IamNumber25 said:
LOL. I'm not debating, I'm telling you what I've observed because I used the camera a lot, more than you use it. I'm a photographer and I can see the difference from the previous version. Go out and test it.
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I hate to be that guy, but here is your comment on this subject under another post, admitting that this update is just about bringing the June security patch, and that's it.
And you're a photographer, not a prophet. You can be wrong about tbings.
I tested the camera before and after.
Huawei released the full changelog about this update.
Huawei themselves explained why not all markets are getting the update that improves the image processing on this phone.
The web is full of forums discussing this, and you're the 1st person to claim that a 124mb has made the camera on his phone take better pictures.
I respect that you're a photographer, but that doesn't mean your words can't be flase. All the above points prove that this updats has nothing to do with image processing.

Maher.k22 said:
Can someone explain to me the logic behind Huawei's decision to skip over the 161 update for many markets, and only giving us the 168 update that brings nothing but the June security patch?
We were promised that camera tweaks are on the way, and I was desperate for this update as I find this camera, and as great as it is, to be inconsistent in terms of colors and exposure. But after weeks of waiting, we got an update that delivers no tweaks and improvements to the cameras or the performance and UI of the phone.
I'm starting to get sick of Huawei's decision to spoil some markets with their software, like China for example, and screwing the majority of the world with their slow, and in this case, meaningless updates. The OnePlus 7 Pro, Note 10, or the next Pixel 4 are looking like a great option if Huawei keeps on going with such pace in regards to updates.
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I'm quite annoyed too, I was expecting the upgrade with the 161 camera improvements, but directly to the 168, there is no way to manually install the 161?

I'm on the .161 if I update to the latest fw I'll lost the camera improvements?

One thing you can do is download full firmware 168 and see if the new camera update exist in the firmware.
Got the update today without the improvement, will do later today a full firmware flash via erecovery to check if the new camera is included.

Just to end this discussion...
I'm on fw .161 and my camera fw is 9.1.3.309
My friend is on fw .168 and his camera fw is 9.1.0.306

Hybrid Soldier said:
I'm on the .161 if I update to the latest fw I'll lost the camera improvements?
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No don't worry, you won't, lucky you :/
Hopefully we'll get this camera update and won't be left out.

Maher.k22 said:
No don't worry, you won't, lucky you :/
Hopefully we'll get this camera update and won't be left out.
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We only have to pray and wait hahaha

Isnt the camera just an app? there's no way for someone with .309 to pull it from the phone and post it?

eng3 said:
Isnt the camera just an app? there's no way for someone with .309 to pull it from the phone and post it?
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You can, matter of fact, I installed the 309 version, and nothing has changed. The improvements in image processing are brought through the software update, not the camera app itself.

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android 6 update

hey there,
I was just wondering if *anyone* has revieved the android 6 update for his Z5 compact.
As far as I see, according to the usual tech websites, it should be available by now but I'm still getting no update prompt.
cheers
brokaaa
No
Only the Z3 and the Z3C have Android 6 beta (Marshmallow Concept) at the moment.
Sony is taking lot of time to release 6.0. I hope they:
- improve the camera firmware for the Z5 camera
- fix auto brightness bug with the colors (already announced)
- implement fingerprint sensor using standard Android APIs and not custom Sony stuff.
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thesebastian said:
No
Only the Z3 and the Z3C have Android 6 beta (Marshmallow Concept) at the moment.
Sony is taking lot of time to release 6.0. I hope they:
- improve the camera firmware for the Z5 camera
- fix auto brightness bug with the colors (already announced)
- implement fingerprint sensor using standard Android APIs and not custom Sony stuff.
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To the things you mentioned above, they got many bugs to fix across the board. Let alone the kernel contains many bugs.
Plus, the kernel's CPU power management changed if they updated the kernel to a newer CAF branch (which i suppose they did),
and it takes time for them to refactor hotplug etc.. to the updated scheduler (very likely there will be more than 1 A57 online in 6.0+)
and correctly setup stuff.
It's better they take their time and release a relativly stable firmware >>upgrade, and not a rushed firmware which ends up being worse than Lollipop.
I agree with you Tommy but I think they should have developed a Concept for the Z5 too.
The Z5 Lollipop firmware have some terrible bugs like the auto brightness bug. That should have been fixed a few months ago.
I honestly think that without a proper concept firmware we are going to have a buggy 6.X just like the current 5.1.1
I appreciate all the other info you mentioned from CAF by the way.
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ok, we'll wait then I guess
Not yet.
Time is not a matter. I hope they release a great working update next time
Xperiablog reported that it seems the Marshmallow update for the Z4 Tablet is being delayed, so I find it quite likely that the one for the Z5 phones is delayed as well. I would be surprised if it arrives before the middle of February.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/01/1...allow-update-been-delayed-telstra-says-it-is/
brokaaa said:
hey there,
I was just wondering if *anyone* has revieved the android 6 update for his Z5 compact.
As far as I see, according to the usual tech websites, it should be available by now but I'm still getting no update prompt.
cheers
brokaaa
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http://www.justaboutphones.com/sony-xperia-z5-z5-compact-z5-premium-z3-marshmallow-6-0-update/
Unconfirmed news said Z5 line 6.0 ready now and preparing to roll OTA. I think after Z3/Z3 concept ended, we will get the 6.0 at the end of this month or early next month. Hope this is true.
TheEndHK said:
http://www.justaboutphones.com/sony-xperia-z5-z5-compact-z5-premium-z3-marshmallow-6-0-update/
Unconfirmed news said Z5 line 6.0 ready now and preparing to roll OTA. I think after Z3/Z3 concept ended, we will get the 6.0 at the end of this month or early next month. Hope this is true.
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Ready Marshmallow for Turchey... hope get OTA soon for others countries
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What does it mean Turchey? Which country is it?
adamslast said:
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What does it mean Turchey? Which country is it?
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Turkey
adamslast said:
@maverik99vc
What does it mean Turchey? Which country is it?
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http://www.unlockpwd.com/turkey-begins-the-release-of-android-xperia-marshmallow-z5/
I think he refer to this news. "Good news coming from Turkey, namely the Facebook profile of the company. It appears to have begun the roll out of Android 6.0 Marshmallow to the range Z5 . At the moment there seems to be a bit ‘of traffic on servers but the OTA was sent and is therefore only a matter of hours or at most a few days."
Unfortunately, we can't confirm whether or not it is true or fake. It's very unlikely Turchey will get it first. Turchey is the country who used F-16 to shoot down Russia SU-25 last year.
I am from Turkey and unfortunately there is no any OTA MM update yet.
It was March last year when the z3c got the lollipop update. I'll say same for z5 line and MM. Sony is officially terrible with updates.
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...I hope they:
- improve the camera firmware for the Z5 camera
- fix auto brightness bug with the colors (already announced)
- implement fingerprint sensor using standard Android APIs and not custom Sony stuff.
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You hit the nail on the head. The existing camera firmware and the poor fingerprint sensor recognition are my two major disappointments with my Z5C. Will be great if they can fix them.
Notchr302 said:
It was March last year when the z3c got the lollipop update. I'll say same for z5 line and MM. Sony is officially terrible with updates.
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When the Z3/Z3c Marshmallow beta concept going to end, we'll know 6.0 is real coming. The same as Galaxy S6.
It has been forever that sony updates are really late. Ive actually given up on waiting. It will come when it comes
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baste07 said:
It has been forever that sony updates are really late. Ive actually given up on waiting. It will come when it comes
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Same here HAHAHAHAH thats the best thing to do
We've also waited for LLP and after months of struggle, Sony released it full of bugs... so they are not really taking the time to release a bug free software....they are just taking the time ^_^. Hope i'm wrong with this one.
fratzika said:
We've also waited for LLP and after months of struggle, Sony released it full of bugs... so they are not really taking the time to release a bug free software....they are just taking the time ^_^. Hope i'm wrong with this one.
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Well...they only did a Concept for the Z3. So I'm expecting a buggy Z5 Marshmallow firmware and a more polished Z3 firm....
I hope I'm wrong.
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Huawei Mate 10 Pro Face Unlock

Hello guys, i read this article before. i applied this my ex phone (oneplus 3t) and it was successfull.
But I can't set a Trusted Face in Smart Lock at mate 10 pro.
How can i do that?
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/get-oneplus-5ts-face-unlock-any-phone-0181291/
(Get the OnePlus 5T's Face Unlock on Any Phone)
I don't think you can. Huawei have removed it from Smart Lock.
Since Honor V10 has the face unlock (in future rom), maybe can port the app to Mate 10 series.
But in my view face unlock might be unnecessary in the sense that you have to raise the phone anyway for face unlock and whereby fingerprint is faster as you don't have to align phone to your face. However face unlock will help when phone is docked during driving. And this leads me to guess that one could have their phone on a stand up dock on the work desk as well and use face unlock without needing to lift the phone.
why removed? all of android phones use it.
we are using android 8 but we can use a very important option...
Some news has come about with the Honor View 10. It now has Face Unlock which is very nice as it starts checking the face as soon as you take the phone off a table so the power button doesn't even need to be pressed.
Also the Mate 10 lite is supposedly getting Face unlock according to some leaks.
Hopefully this means that the face unlock feature will also make its way to the flagship phone... Mate 10 and Mate 10 pro.
I would almost bet money that the Mate 10 (Pro) doesn't get Face Unlock. Huawei is notoriously bad and just simply random with updates that add features to current phones if they don't mention these features during the introduction of the phones.
I don't really care about face unlock to be honest. It just bothers me that I spent 600+ on a flagship phone and it doesn't get the newest features while cheaper phones get them simply because they are newer. I've had a lot of Huawei / Honors phones over the last few years and while it is forgivable for medium range phones, it is simply unexpectable for flagship phones that cost as much as Samsungs, HTCs etc.
All of these companies provide consistent improvements in their software (see for example the S8 with the advanced "always-on" display - meanwhile I am almost sure that we will never get an improved software update for the "always-on" display). Even the cheaper OnePlus improve their software regularly (see the OnePlus 5T with multiple updates for their camera and updates for the Face Unlock).
The Mate 9 had almost no updates that improved anything, let alone Google security updates. I am willing to give Huawei one last chance, but they better improve their update policy a lot this time around (meaning Google security updates, Android updates as well as improving features such as face unlock, better "always-on" display etc.). Yes, the hardware is excellent on this phone - but it is simply not enough in this day and age when even companies like "OnePlus" provide better and more comprehensive update policies for less money.
I hope time will prove me wrong and we will get good updates as well as "face unlock", but so far I really doubt it.
Stop to buy these phones then..
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I would almost bet money that the Mate 10 (Pro) doesn't get Face Unlock. Huawei is notoriously bad and just simply random with updates that add features to current phones if they don't mention these features during the introduction of the phones.
I don't really care about face unlock to be honest. It just bothers me that I spent 600+ on a flagship phone and it doesn't get the newest features while cheaper phones get them simply because they are newer. I've had a lot of Huawei / Honors phones over the last few years and while it is forgivable for medium range phones, it is simply unexpectable for flagship phones that cost as much as Samsungs, HTCs etc.
All of these companies provide consistent improvements in their software (see for example the S8 with the advanced "always-on" display - meanwhile I am almost sure that we will never get an improved software update for the "always-on" display). Even the cheaper OnePlus improve their software regularly (see the OnePlus 5T with multiple updates for their camera and updates for the Face Unlock).
The Mate 9 had almost no updates that improved anything, let alone Google security updates. I am willing to give Huawei one last chance, but they better improve their update policy a lot this time around (meaning Google security updates, Android updates as well as improving features such as face unlock, better "always-on" display etc.). Yes, the hardware is excellent on this phone - but it is simply not enough in this day and age when even companies like "OnePlus" provide better and more comprehensive update policies for less money.
I hope time will prove me wrong and we will get good updates as well as "face unlock", but so far I really doubt it.
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Agree. My first Huawei, already considering to replace w/ Note 8 or Oneplus 5.
sonydesouza said:
Stop to buy these phones then..
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Thanks. Never ever heard that comment before as a response to constructive criticism on xda
Hope we have the same future like honor v 10
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Thanks. Never ever heard that comment before as a response to constructive criticism on xda
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Do you really think your post is constructive? Don't think so anyway
Huawei Pakistan confirmed that the Mate 10 lite will get it.
It would be nice but I rather see Huawei keeping the promise of monthly security updates and I wanna see some polishing of the Mate 10 software.
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Play store erorr 404
Hi all! I have a Huawei 10 mate pro .Then suddenly i cant download app from Play Store anymore . It show error code 404 everytime i try to download app. I tried to reset full wipe my phone. Reinstall rom, update rom.... but same problem happens. It ran smooth before. I cant understand what the hex is happening. I tried everyway, but that stupid error keep showing. I try to reinstall Somebody out there please :crying:
Sa ni said:
Hi all! I have a Huawei 10 mate pro .Then suddenly i cant download app from Play Store anymore . It show error code 404 everytime i try to download app. I tried to reset full wipe my phone. Reinstall rom, update rom.... but same problem happens. It ran smooth before. I cant understand what the hex is happening. I tried everyway, but that stupid error keep showing. I try to reinstall Somebody out there please :crying:
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Are you from China ?

Pixel 3's camera UI rolling out to Pixel 2 series

Hi guys.
I've just received the latest camera update which includes the new camera UI on my Pixel 2 XL. Not sure if this has officially rolled out yet, but I've taken a few screenshots to show you how it looks, features and version number, in case you're interested.
I can't confirm if the OG Pixels are receiving it yet, though my best guess would be that it does. Keep in mind it might be a phased roll-out, so it may take a few days, weeks until the update will appear for you.
UPDATE: Users on Reddit confirmed that OG Pixels are also receiving the update.
Camera version: 6.1.013.216795316
Device: Pixel 2 XL (Unlocked, UK)
Android: Android 9.0, 5th October Security
Screenshots: https://photos.app.goo.gl/vZxYPFTUeA9U8Xva6
APK for those interested: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ipyxRd1VqT5-s0cSls3tYwCZuiVPaNoA
APKMirror: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-6-1-013-216795316-release/google-camera-6-1-013-216795316-android-apk-download/
Just checked for an update and got it too.
yes just received the update... portrait mode working fine now
Horoscope said:
yes just received the update... portrait mode working fine now
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Have you spoofed your build.prop?
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Have you spoofed your build.prop?
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nope I have not and I am unrooted, below is the apk link
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-6-1-013-216795316-android-apk-download/
Interesting Night Site isn't included. But I like the new layout. Thanks for sharing.
Nice to see already... Better interface.
Which variant is recommended for the 2XL? Nodpi or 400 - 480?
Hi there - did you do anything special to get the apk ? And how does this differ from the leaked app a week or so ago :? Might it be the same?
Just got the update.
Thought we were getting some new features. Specifically night shot
Only differences I see are the new UI and the option to save RAW
same hire on pixel 2, unlocked UK version
I tried APK Mirror No DPI version and then the google play store update. Both have no night sight available. Then I tried the one signed by cstark27 but still no luck. Not sure how other people get night sight mode to work on Pixel 2 XL.
Loving the new camera features and the new UI. Pretty cool.
I think it was an article on Android Authority or somewhere I read, but while we are getting the new camera updates, we will not be receiving the new camera features (night shot, TopShot etc) on OG Pixels or the 2 series... Hopefully this is wrong, but seeing as how they want folks to upgrade to the 3's it does make sense. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.
EDIT: forgive my ignorance, was misinformed I think. My apologies. Not my intention to spread misinformation.

Android Q

What a deception... I was hoping Samsung to be more faster on update.
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/07/no-android-q-beta-samsung-galaxy-phones-not-yet
Samsung and updates not a good match my friend...if u get a samsung for updates..thats no good.
I got my samsung for the hardware and how beautifull it is. Also with one ui the phone is very snappy as it is. No need for updates as of now
seriously?
I hope no betas are released until Samsung's official one :laugh:
get a pixel!!
Q is no big deal anyway. There isn't a whole lot going on with it other than Google will be able to release security updates via Play Store with their new Project Mainline. It will also give the Pixel kids something to run around and squeal about because we know how they get all puffed up when they can say they got it first. ?
Atleast it's coming this dec.
Tel864 said:
Q is no big deal anyway. There isn't a whole lot going on with it other than Google will be able to release security updates via Play Store with their new Project Mainline. It will also give the Pixel kids something to run around and squeal about because we know how they get all puffed up when they can say they got it first. ?
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Yeah, it's true that Android Q hasn't a lot of new stuff.
No need of it now.
But, there's many manufacturers who participate to the beta. I don't understand why a big player like Samsung isn't on the list.
I wish they will participate soon.
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Fredzvw said:
Yeah, it's true that Android Q hasn't a lot of new stuff.
No need of it now.
But, there's many manufacturers who participate to the beta. I don't understand why a big player like Samsung isn't on the list.
I wish they will participate soon.
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I've been through 2 betas with Samsung and before that I was in 3 or 4 with Motorola. To be honest, Samsung doesn't have a clue on how to run a beta program. When we reported problems in the Samsung Members app, the best we got if anything at all was to submit a report through the app to the developers. As far as I know no one got feedback other than we're looking into it. Everything I reported with the S9 carried over to the Pie final. Motorola had a dedicated forum with moderators that actually passed feedback back and forth. I even spoke with a software engineer two times.
Beta with Samsung is sort of here it is, hope it works. :laugh:
well,i was hoping samsung can update a new full screen gesture like android Q , MIUI 10 , oneplus 6's or maybe just build-in one hand operation in next firmware. and faster fingerprint scanning,it really sucks when you try so hard and it just not unlock the phone
Tel864 said:
Q is no big deal anyway. There isn't a whole lot going on with it other than Google will be able to release security updates via Play Store with their new Project Mainline. It will also give the Pixel kids something to run around and squeal about because we know how they get all puffed up when they can say they got it first. [emoji57]
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Not sure I agree here. I'm running it on my Pixel 3 xl and it has many noteworthy features. There is live caption which let's you get real-time transcriptions of what is being said on any video, in any app, across the entire OS. There are systemwide UI changes like dark mode and improved gestural navigation and the back button; over 40 updates to the way security, permissions and privacy agreements are handled. Also, there are improvements to Android's security which will make them come faster thought the Playstore (Project Mainline), better parental controls, new Notification Assistant that will help you reply to incoming chats and other minor stuff. In my opinion, it is by no means a small upgrade, specially when you consider it is still in Beta 3 and will probably add even more features. So far, it runs smooth as butter for me and had great battery life.
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If it follows historically anything like previous generations of Samsung phones it should arrive to the S10 family sometime next year in February or March... Just in time for Google's Android R first preview release.
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Fredzvw said:
What a deception... I was hoping Samsung to be more faster on update.
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/07/no-android-q-beta-samsung-galaxy-phones-not-yet
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Why? Samsung have no commitment to release a beta firmware to users. People today are too impatient, you need to learn to wait for these things.
Charos87 said:
Why? Samsung have no commitment to release a beta firmware to users. People today are too impatient, you need to learn to wait for these things.
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? I'm buying a new high branded product to have one of the best smartphone. I'm here because I want to share my experience and to find informations from others.
What I see is that almost others brands are offering beta firmware to users and faster updates than Samsung. Why do we have to accept this?
I owned some Samsung devices in the past. Finally change my P20 Pro to try S10. But Samsung was not faster than before on updates, maybe slower.
My girlfriend know nothing about cellphone and don't care about updates. But, if you're here man and you don't care about new characteristics, what are you doing here?
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Fredzvw said:
? I'm buying a new high branded product to have one of the best smartphone. I'm here because I want to share my experience and to find informations from others.
What I see is that almost others brands are offering beta firmware to users and faster updates than Samsung. Why do we have to accept this?
I owned some Samsung devices in the past. Finally change my P20 Pro to try S10. But Samsung was not faster than before on updates, maybe slower.
My girlfriend know nothing about cellphone and don't care about updates. But, if you're here man and you don't care about new characteristics, what are you doing here?
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You accept it because that's pretty much the way Samsung has always been and not anyone here is going to change that. When someone buys a Samsung phone, they need to accept that as a condition. I would bet money that the majority of users worldwide care less about updates as long as their phone works reliably.
Fredzvw said:
? I'm buying a new high branded product to have one of the best smartphone. I'm here because I want to share my experience and to find informations from others.
What I see is that almost others brands are offering beta firmware to users and faster updates than Samsung. Why do we have to accept this?
I owned some Samsung devices in the past. Finally change my P20 Pro to try S10. But Samsung was not faster than before on updates, maybe slower.
My girlfriend know nothing about cellphone and don't care about updates. But, if you're here man and you don't care about new characteristics, what are you doing here?
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Other brands may very well offer beta firmware and if what you want is for firmware to come out quickly then I suggest next time you get one of those devices but what I said was be patient, it will eventually come out. You shouldn't be here just to whine about updates not coming out, I've been on XDA for nearly ten years now and it annoys me when people complain about the speed of updates. You should want a complete update without bugs and that takes time, making a post about it won't speed up the release and just clutters up the feed.
Samsung if you see has alot of devices to take care of. They release security patches on monthly bases to phone ranging from 100-max$ they have. Also the one ui which is very heavy skin needs to be fully usable and bug less in new android q. I myself have tried betas and didn't find anything usefull expect bragging in front my friends. Apps run same or maybe 1-2% faster in Q.
With Android betas you can download a new CPU & more RAM to your device so this is why it's so important to get it quickly from the manufacturer.
Intratech said:
With Android betas you can download a new CPU & more RAM to your device so this is why it's so important to get it quickly from the manufacturer.
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This made me chuckle [emoji1787]
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anyone wanting firmware first solution is easy buy a Google pixel
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Ahh the age old xda mass-debate about beta firmware.
Get yer popcorn sweet-cheekses, its gonna be a great
All this mass-debating :laugh:
In all seriousness tho Samsung won't be physically be able to release firmware as quick as Google due to the extra software overlay. Its that simple lol
Samsung has NEVER been known for releasing software early so I'm not sure why anyone would whine about slow updates.
Is look Android 10 UI 2.0 beta is coming soon ?
https://www.sammobile.com/news/which-galaxy-phones-will-get-an-android-10-beta-program/

August firmwave update 55.0.A.6.16

talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-1/55-0-A-6-16/td-p/1385000
There are user reported in Sony official forum that they received new firmwave update 55.0.A.6.16, anyone receive the update? Any improvement and changes in changelog?
No changelog as Sony tends to not release changelog. One thing for sure is that it contains the August security update. So far, it's released only in RU and UA (J9110) and EE UK (J8110).
Hoping for a lot of improvements, especially that they bumped the version number from 0.A.2 to 0.A.6.
Prepare to be disappointed... again
I received the August update for J9110. The file size was about 100MB, so it's just a security update.
el_sur said:
I received the August update for J9110. The file size was about 100MB, so it's just a security update.
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I am so disappointed in software treatment of Xperia 1.
So far no pics in 21:9 no matter mid rangers like X10 has it... No 4k 60 fps recording. No pics quality improvement, no bug fixes for 4k video stabilization... No night mode or improvement to overblown light sources.
Not only camera. No fixes to nothing, just a poor copy paste of Google's security patch...
Hence no changelog (in fact there is no any other change).
I think this may be my last Xperia device after so many years being loyal to this brand...
decomposed said:
I am so disappointed in software treatment of Xperia 1.
So far no pics in 21:9 no matter mid rangers like X10 has it... No 4k 60 fps recording. No pics quality improvement, no bug fixes for 4k video stabilization... No night mode or improvement to overblown light sources.
Not only camera. No fixes to nothing, just a poor copy paste of Google's security patch...
Hence no changelog (in fact there is no any other change).
I think this may be my last Xperia device after so many years being loyal to this brand...
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Phones only been out a couple months, give it time
Only change I noticed is the time it takes the camera to process a picture, 2 sec now.
snake218 said:
Only change I noticed is the time it takes the camera to process a picture, 2 sec now.
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That is from firmware 55.0.A.2.314.
tomo100brt said:
That is from firmware 55.0.A.2.314.
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Was 4 seconds on that firmware
snake218 said:
Was 4 seconds on that firmware
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Not for me. Mybe it is faster now but it was already fast after 55.0.A.2.314 firmware. About 2 second.
Form xperia china team(Google Translate)
·Screen touch experience enhancement
·960fps super slow motion video focus performance improvement
·Photo zoom out lose frame problem improvement
· Solved the problem that the recognition rate is reduced when the finger is put on the fingerprint recognition module for a long time.
·Improved the performance of fingerprint recognition sensor after fingerprint recognition test

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