So mi9/9se/9t got some nice mods for screen overclocking, anyone done anything similar for mi8?
Also would like to know, if it possible.
There was an option on some old extreme kernel, but if it possible to implement to a Newark revolution or another?
Because there are always an option of save screen overlock, like on a PC or laptop.
i am too would like to know if it possible.
but i think mi8 max can reach 70hz.
On the Extreme Kernel 75hz is too much laggy.
Yes some people tried it and if I remember correctly they used the existing mod and it worked temporarily until it damaged their phones.
Search, and you will find the threads where people were trying to fix their phone afterwards.
Just sell your phone and buy one with that capability, I would bet that it's not worth the extra cost.
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and the question is: why would you?
The War Profiteer said:
and the question is: why would you?
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why not?
MehmetNY said:
why not?
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Best answer ever. Let's go overclock our displays for no reason y'all.
84Mhz = 84000000hz
The War Profiteer said:
Best answer ever. Let's go overclock our displays for no reason y'all.
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Thanks for making me spit out my drink laughing. The Y'all at the end added to the hilarity! ?
The simple answer - because everything on phone would be much smother, without any drawbacks (only small with battery consumption, but very, very small). There should be safe overclock for every display - yeah, 84Hz is toooo high, but 70 should be just fine for screen.
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Thanks for making me spit out my drink laughing. The Y'all at the end added to the hilarity!
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Dude, why don't we overclock the display?
Why not ask for more when we have this opportunity?
i think 70hz is possible. If there was an application(or tool) to set it up, I'd have already tried it.
MehmetNY said:
Dude, why don't we overclock the display?
Why not ask for more when we have this opportunity?
i think 70hz is possible. If there was an application(or tool) to set it up, I'd have already tried it.
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Because it will damage your GPU.
But go ahead and do what you want, the warning is for the people wanting to do things safely.
I would advise that you search XDA and find the many people with many different types of phones who damaged their phones using GPU overclock mods not designed for their device.
Overclocking the display makes as much sense as removing the thermal config files to get a higher AnTuTu score. Does it work? Yes, until Black screen.
Again, do what you want :
a overclock file for the display is already available that will install on the Mi8. Go find it and enjoy it for maybe a few days until your display stops working and the only solution is replacing the motherboard.
Enjoy :good:
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MehmetNY said:
Dude, why don't we overclock the display?
Why not ask for more when we have this opportunity?
i think 70hz is possible. If there was an application(or tool) to set it up, I'd have already tried it.
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Addition to the previous post, 10 fps will do no favors to your experience. And if it was safe, xiaomi would deliver the device with this modification. Who would limit a feature while they can advertise it and sell more? You have a decent flagship device from last year and it's still very powerful against tree he majority of the devices in the market. If it was possible, I'm sure this brand would do it.
It's unsafe and many people are saying that it actually makes the device lagging, instead of the expected "smoother" experience. 60 fps is enough, and more than this is just fantasy and it'll make you no better than you currently are in any online games. If you want proof, go to the extreme kernel thread and you'll see many people are suffering this laggy ui issue.
tsongming said:
Because it will damage your GPU.
But go ahead and do what you want, the warning is for the people wanting to do things safely.
I would advise that you search XDA and find the many people with many different types of phones who damaged their phones using GPU overclock mods not designed for their device.
Overclocking the display makes as much sense as removing the thermal config files to get a higher AnTuTu score. Does it work? Yes, until Black screen.
Again, do what you want :
a overclock file for the display is already available that will install on the Mi8. Go find it and enjoy it for maybe a few days until your display stops working and the only solution is replacing the motherboard.
Enjoy :good:
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"Because it will damage your GPU. " made me burst out laughing lmao,since when overclocking the display has anything to do with the gpu lol wtf
Some guys were referring about kernel, but new devices are using patched dtbo.
Guess this is the correct way.
hon2838 said:
"Because it will damage your GPU. " made me burst out laughing lmao,since when overclocking the display has anything to do with the gpu lol wtf
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And your IQ is just laughable, and your lifespan is very questionable.
Firstly you need to understand what gpu does.
Higher refresh rate for display = higher refresh rate for gpu, which means your GPU will need to use more battery, and run faster to keep up with. This will also heat your GPU excessively which will damage it.
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And your IQ is just laughable, and your lifespan is very questionable.
Firstly you need to understand what gpu does.
Higher refresh rate for display = higher refresh rate for gpu, which means your GPU will need to use more battery, and run faster to keep up with. This will also heat your GPU excessively which will damage it.
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This is completely wrong. 60hz screen will send a command to your GPU to produce 60 frames per second. Phones are vertical synced. It will not damage the GPU at all.
For reference Razer Phone 2 does 120hz and it has the same snapdragon 845 which has the same GPU
hkbazzi said:
This is completely wrong. 60hz screen will send a command to your GPU to produce 60 frames per second. Phones are vertical synced. It will not damage the GPU at all.
For reference Razer Phone 2 does 120hz and it has the same snapdragon 845 which has the same GPU
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It has a cooling system called "vapor cooling". You can buy a Razer Phone 2 instead, then.
You are claiming that I am wrong by repeating me in different words, very clever.
The War Profiteer said:
It has a cooling system called "vapor cooling". You can buy a Razer Phone 2 instead, then.
You are claiming that I am wrong by repeating me in different words, very clever.
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The cooling system is when the GPU is being demanded heavy resources which is GAMING and only GAMING!
Displaying normal apps (reddit whatsapp instagram email) and the home screen will not stress the GPU it can display over 300 fps and it won't need any cooling as it will not run hot.
I have the razer phone 2, if what you are saying is true my phone will be a constant hot potato since 120hz will always stress the GPU.
The Mi8's screen is designed to handle 60hz safely. The GPU can blow the display and it will keep running normally.
Please do not spread wrong information, I am not repeating you at all, what I am saying is completely contradictory to what you are saying.
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And your IQ is just laughable, and your lifespan is very questionable.
Firstly you need to understand what gpu does.
Higher refresh rate for display = higher refresh rate for gpu, which means your GPU will need to use more battery, and run faster to keep up with. This will also heat your GPU excessively which will damage it.
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When you laugh at people's iq and lifespan,it means there are no point of having any argument with you
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Sorry for my broken english,
OK,now I am facing a huge problem..I can't run any game on my x10,
When i run a game, at start it will run normally, after loading or few seconds then it will crash and causing a boot..i tested on every game eg gameloft,fruit ninja,angry bird except sudoku(maybe it didnt give the gpu too much stress),before it boot the notification light will become purple in colour .. I m on wb tw rom v4.04 custom and doom's kernel v04a and oc to 1267mhz ..I think my gpu is spoilt because I used to reinstall the rom and wipe everythingbut no use..
Anyone can help me and I will very appreciate ..thx
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Sorry for my broken english,
OK,now I am facing a huge problem..I can't run any game on my x10,
When i run a game, at start it will run normally, after loading or few seconds then it will crash and causing a boot..i tested on every game eg gameloft,fruit ninja,angry bird except sudoku(maybe it didnt give the gpu too much stress),before it boot the notification light will become purple in colour .. I m on wb tw rom v4.04 custom and doom's kernel v04a and oc to 1267mhz ..I think my gpu is spoilt because I used to reinstall the rom and wipe everythingbut no use..
Anyone can help me and I will very appreciate ..thx
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You might want to start there...
It is not adviced to overclock for prolonged period of time.
Set the max frequency back to 998 and see what happens.
My_Immortal said:
You might want to start there...
It is not adviced to overclock for prolonged period of time.
Set the max frequency back to 998 and see what happens.
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Ok, but before I used to oc to 1227 for a long period but nth happen
iVolcaNoz said:
Ok, but before I used to oc to 1227 for a long period but nth happen
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That's why they say "don't use for long" and not, for example, "don't use for 3 days"!
There will be a point when your chipset will no longer be able to handle it,
and that point is unique to every phone/user, so better lower or eliminate the overclock altogether.
Dun clock to max,just a slight clock would be good like 10360,or just set to normal clock first
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That's why they say "don't use for long" and not, for example, "don't use for 3 days"!
There will be a point when your chipset will no longer be able to handle it,
and that point is unique to every phone/user, so better lower or eliminate the overclock altogether.
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Fruit ninja works..that means I can only oc when it is needed example gaming and need to back to 998 or below after done?
iVolcaNoz said:
Fruit ninja works..that means I can only oc when it is needed example gaming and need to back to 998 or below after done?
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If I were you, I wouldn't overclock at all, because reboots are an indication
that your chipset cannot tolerate higher frequencies and chipset death
can have you run to a service center for a new motherboard...
These older chipsets can't overclock like newer ones either, the tolerances are a lot lower.
You're going to fry your chip dude!
I wouldn't recommend going over 1167 personally...
Even that not for more than a short period.. Unless you don't mind risking your phone dying.
SE phones tend to run hot anyway, you are really straining it for sure.
My_Immortal said:
If I were you, I wouldn't overclock at all, because reboots are an indication
that your chipset cannot tolerate higher frequencies and chipset death
can have you run to a service center for a new motherboard...
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Ok..I will follow ur advice and thx u r really immortal xD
scoobysnacks said:
These older chipsets can't overclock like newer ones either, the tolerances are a lot lower.
You're going to fry your chip dude!
I wouldn't recommend going over 1167 personally...
Even that not for more than a short period.. Unless you don't mind risking your phone dying.
SE phones tend to run hot anyway, you are really straining it for sure.
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I m shocked when I heard tat..I dun have tat kind of knowledge .and thx for telling me those thing and I will take your advice ..thx
let me know cause i have the same prob after update
Does your phone reboot also when using the Camera continously?? mine does
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Does your phone reboot also when using the Camera continously?? mine does
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Are you setting the focus to infinity?
The cam seems to be having problems with this
scoobysnacks said:
These older chipsets can't overclock like newer ones either, the tolerances are a lot lower.
You're going to fry your chip dude!
I wouldn't recommend going over 1167 personally...
Even that not for more than a short period.. Unless you don't mind risking your phone dying.
SE phones tend to run hot anyway, you are really straining it for sure.
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Does X10i have a temp sensor in SoC ? I thought only sensor was in Battery! So it's not SoC thats getting hot (sure, that one also...) it's the Battery. Maybe SE choose the cheaper option, which get's hotter.
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Does X10i have a temp sensor in SoC ? I thought only sensor was in Battery! So it's not SoC thats getting hot (sure, that one also...) it's the Battery. Maybe SE choose the cheaper option, which get's hotter.
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I have a battery temperature widget on my homescreens
(from Minimalistic Text app)
and sometimes I notice temperatures as high as 45 Celcius,
but then again, this time of year the weather is at 35-40 Celcius in my country.
The highest I've seen is 54 while I was charging, connected to 3G and
having a half-hour phone call.
Battery does get hot easily, but I am not sure what's the deal with
the motherboard because I haven't had any random reboots for the past few months.
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Does X10i have a temp sensor in SoC ? I thought only sensor was in Battery! So it's not SoC thats getting hot (sure, that one also...) it's the Battery. Maybe SE choose the cheaper option, which get's hotter.
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It isn't only the battery hence the burning smell if you remove the battery and smell that area, and all the motherboard problems...
The phone itself runs pretty hot, much hotter than any other I've owned.
These settings have been tested by me all night and all day checking the timesnin each clock state and if it failed it would be a simple fix . This is as stable as can be lowering your temps and increasing batterylife!! No more screen dimming. I stopped the undervolting process at 1728mhz because at 2265mhz regardless the phone would overheat
So here are the specs below
300mhz----750mv
422mhz----750mv
652mhz----750mv
729mhz----750mv these are as low as I could go
883mhz----760mv
960mhz----770mv
1036mhz---780mv
1190mhz---790mv
1267mhz---800mv
1497mhz---810mv
1574mhz---820mv
1728mhz---830mv
These settings are to be inputted directly into setcpu via voltage table proven to work
These settings are also tested daily and improved where flawwed
I figured i would post this since there isnt a single post with manual voltage specs
Good info thanks!
You got it!!
Have any voltages setting for OC?
Are these settings good for gaming?
As posted these voltages are strictly for batterylife however does just fine on gaming. I will work on oc voltages once the cpu limiter is removed from any kernel unfortunate it would be pointless to overclock this handset
Why can't I adjust voltage settings on a stock kernel? I don't get an option to do it in the fauxclock app...
zachdees said:
As posted these voltages are strictly for batterylife however does just fine on gaming. I will work on oc voltages once the cpu limiter is removed from any kernel unfortunate it would be pointless to overclock this handset
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you do know we already have 2 over clocked kernels for tw. so its not exactly pointless.
These settings are for people who want batterylife and to enjoy theyre phone without the screen dimming on them from the cpu overheating on them.. i dont see a point in overclocking the phone. Maybe some quadrants and horrible batterylife
There are some that want the most battery in a device. Others want the most performance. I and others are in the 2nd category. I personally have a zerolemon so battery life is a last priority for me seeing that underclocking this handset is pointless to me. But to each their own. I do aprreciate you taking the time to find out these voltages but to some OC is just as addictive as flashing roms themselves lol!
Thats fine you can enjoy your screen dimming 2.7ghz while i have the zero lemon and underclocked at 1728mhz and undervolted lasting 6 or more days and still screaming fast. Sure there isnt a point to it huh
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Thats fine you can enjoy your screen dimming 2.7ghz while i have the zero lemon and underclocked at 1728mhz and undervolted lasting 6 or more days and still screaming fast. Sure there isnt a point to it huh
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Thanks a lot for this
MY NOTE 3 BETTA THAN YOURZ
does any one have the stock kernal voltage to maybe compare
i tried these settings
set up fine
300mhz----750mv
422mhz----750mv
652mhz----750mv
729mhz----750mv
883mhz----760mv
960mhz----770mv
having issues on this half
1036mhz---780mv had to set to 800 because it kept freezing blacking out
1190mhz---790mv 820
1267mhz---800mv 850
1497mhz---810mv 885
1574mhz---820mv 900
1728mhz---830mv 915
Stock Kernel Nope.
This WILL not work on a stock TW kernel as SETCPU or Voltage control do not have the ability. The only way to change voltages (unlike the title claims) is to flash a NON stock kernel first.
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does any one have the stock kernal voltage to maybe compare
i tried these settings
set up fine
300mhz----750mv
422mhz----750mv
652mhz----750mv
729mhz----750mv
883mhz----760mv
960mhz----770mv
having issues on this half
1036mhz---780mv had to set to 800 because it kept freezing blacking out
1190mhz---790mv 820
1267mhz---800mv 850
1497mhz---810mv 885
1574mhz---820mv 900
1728mhz---830mv 915
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This is due to variation in chips, when the processors are manufactured they are tested, separated by performance, and priced accordingly (this is called 'product binning'). Those of you using OP's settings with no issues have similar or better processors, and likely could undervolt further.
bob23bk said:
This is due to variation in chips, when the processors are manufactured they are tested, separated by performance, and priced accordingly (this is called 'product binning'). Those of you using OP's settings with no issues have similar or better processors, and likely could undervolt further.
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yes true and i understand
my only reason for saying that is he has a note 2 in his signature plus we have a 2.3ghz processor soo y would it overheat?
plus our cores are handled bit different because we have a snapdragon and well the note 2 has a exynos processor :fingers-crossed:
Tha_Dynasty2049 said:
yes true and i understand
my only reason for saying that is he has a note 2 in his signature
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I have no idea lol, did not see this (using xda app)
Tha_Dynasty2049 said:
plus we have a 2.3ghz processor soo y would it overheat?
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The clock speed, voltage, and heat are all directly connected; changing any value will affect at least one of the others.
Tha_Dynasty2049 said:
plus our cores are handled bit different because we have a snapdragon and well the note 2 has a exynos processor :fingers-crossed:
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These theories are equally applicable to all processor types. The issue with these one-size-fits-all settings is we are using cpu's from multiple different bins, thus they can tolerate different voltages/clock speeds. It's also worth mentioning that 2 cpu's from the same bin will tolerate different settings (as they came from different wafers) and that even 2 cpu's from the same wafer will likely tolerate different settings (depending on it's location within the wafer).
In other news, I've found THIS extremely useful thread that explains how to go about revealing your bin # (Thanks @toastido for noting that KitKat changed location to /sys/devices/system/soc/soc0/soc_pvs :highfive. The thread also has multiple users end settings and benchmark results.
Last but not least, to finally answer your original question: I found in that thread that your original settings will vary depending on your bin # (There are no universal stock settings) but perhaps you can find someone who posted their original settings from the same bin that you have. Hope it helps, cheers :good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Das_lYSODo
This is how Oneplus X performs on low-light conditions, is this software related?
Update: It seems to be hardware related, Oneplus X uses the AA version of the SD 801 which is the weakest version with a GPU performance that loses to phones 2-3 years old. I don't know if this is related to the camera but I already feel cheated as this CPU was marketed as "very similar" to the OPO, this explains why it stays miles away from the OPO and is beaten by phones like the Xiaomi mi 4 which is in the same prince range.
Bummer. I shoot useful video like that all the time.
CafeKampuchia said:
Bummer. I shoot useful video like that all the time.
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It's not only in low-light conditions, people complain that the phone has major lags when it's correcting the light mid-video on bright days.
rylark said:
It's not only in low-light conditions, people complain that the phone has major lags when it's correcting the light mid-video on bright days.
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I'm waiting to see what the professional reviews say before drawing conclusions. Even so, I still won't care because I normally don't use my phone to record meaningful HD video.
Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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Oneplus X uses the AA version of the SD 801 which is the weakest version with a GPU performance that loses to phones 2-3 years old.
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Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
Znamir81 said:
Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
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I second this.
Znamir81 said:
Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
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I second this.
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3rd!
People that blame the CPU for the current performance state of this device clearly don't know very much.
With the kernel blu_spark r25 I have way better performances on Fallout Shelter than with the stock kernel!
Petronius42 said:
With the kernel blu_spark r25 I have way better performances on Fallout Shelter than with the stock kernel!
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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I rooted my device without unlocking bootloader.
I than tampered a little bit with the cpu and got way better performance in games as well
I considered flashing that kernel, too, but didn't want the hassle of resetting my device for it (unlocking bootloader). I'll do that when more custom roms are available.
CPU GOVENOR: ONDEMAND
I/O Scheduler: Scheduler: cfq & Read-ahead: 2048kb
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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you wont get ota if you mess with system partition = rooting
but it doesnt matter if you unlock -> backup boot -> flash blu_spark
and if ota is available you restore boot and flash ota
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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True, but by the time they fix with OTA we will probably have several custom ROMs.
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True, but by the time they fix with OTA we will probably have several custom ROMs.
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Hopefully the OTA will come next week.
Prykie1995 said:
Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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PRO just defines that its a SD801 and not SD800
since they both are MSM8974
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PRO just defines that its a SD801 and not SD800
since they both are MSM8974
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Not really sure. In all the charts I've seen online the "AA" model of the 801 has a 450mhz gpu. I've benched the X and it has the 578mhz and a clear PROAA designation. Did some tests with gaming too. Even running riptide gp2 with all the graphics settings on off/minimum, it stutters. That just shouldn't happen on ANY 800 series. Just hoping people don't underestimate what this phone "should" be capable of
Prykie1995 said:
Not really sure. In all the charts I've seen online the "AA" model of the 801 has a 450mhz gpu. I've benched the X and it has the 578mhz and a clear PROAA designation. Did some tests with gaming too. Even running riptide gp2 with all the graphics settings on off/minimum, it stutters. That just shouldn't happen on ANY 800 series. Just hoping people don't underestimate what this phone "should" be capable of
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just because it displays the frequency doesnt mean the gpu will ever reach it
indeed the soc should have a better performance. i still guess its really bad software and they will fix it in future ota
ckret said:
just because it displays the frequency doesnt mean the gpu will ever reach it
indeed the soc should have a better performance. i still guess its really bad software and they will fix it in future ota
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I this iteration of the 801 has the talent to be an absolute beast. Just need to have decent firmware to run it.
Apparently the Oxygen kernel code is so messy.
Comments on MSM8974ProAA gaming performance
Prykie1995 said:
Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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I far as i know the MSM8974PROAA has indeed the high GPU freq. (578 MHz) but compared to AB and AC variants it has much lower ISP freq. and RAM Memory Interface freq. I've an OPX E1003 with Antutu 5.7 3D score of ~11000, whereas the Galaxy S5 scores ~13500, so 22 percent better in gaming according to Antutu. The total antutu score is sligtly lower than of the Galaxy S5, but it seems largely to have to do with 3D performance.
But I noticed using a Usage Monitor app that Asphalt 8 really doesn't push this phone to the max (CPU and GPU wise) ánd has a low framerate (might be app specific issue). With the same Usage Monitor I found out Antutu 5.7 3D pushes the GPU freq. to the max (578 MHz) but still scores significantly below Galaxy S5. Gaming NFS Most Wanted is okey, but GTA San Andreas has lower framerates than expected. I didn't expect the differences between 2 SnapDragon 801 variants to be this big!
Hy guys.
My girfriend bought a beautiful S9 plus and she loves it. It is a great piece of hardware, from design to speed and camera. Just amazing.
Of course i had to test a few things myself (still a rooted note 3 owner). I tried my old "Nemesis", Retroarch, with a couple of games (3rd gen Cave shmups) that put to shame every smartphone Cpu sp far.
The games finally ran full speed, except for moments where a ton of stuff happends on screen and the framerate and audio start going a bit crazy. What is strange though, is the fact that the Cpu never goes beyond 1.7 ghz, never once, which is the little cores max frequency. I'd expect it to reach 2.7 which is the max for the big powerfull ones, to further smoothen the performance.
Is there something i'm missing here? There is no power saving activated and the game center(?forgot the actual.name) settings are set to performance (though from what i understand it only affects display, not Cpu).
...help?
RaduNastase said:
Hy guys.
My girfriend bought a beautiful S9 plus and she loves it. It is a great piece of hardware, from design to speed and camera. Just amazing.
Of course i had to test a few things myself (still a rooted note 3 owner). I tried my old "Nemesis", Retroarch, with a couple of games (3rd gen Cave shmups) that put to shame every smartphone Cpu sp far.
The games finally ran full speed, except for moments where a ton of stuff happends on screen and the framerate and audio start going a bit crazy. What is strange though, is the fact that the Cpu never goes beyond 1.7 ghz, never once, which is the little cores max frequency. I'd expect it to reach 2.7 which is the max for the big powerfull ones, to further smoothen the performance.
Is there something i'm missing here? There is no power saving activated and the game center(?forgot the actual.name) settings are set to performance (though from what i understand it only affects display, not Cpu).
...help?
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I haven't gone beyond 1.7ghz since my last reset, I did when I first got the phone but my assumption is that s new kernel was installed that changed the way the CPU ramped up (Exynos btw) to counter the battery life claims. In all honesty from my limited knowledge it's probably the GPU that limits the frame rate but that's only a guess as 8 cores @ 1.7ghz is plenty of processing power.
mtm1401 said:
. In all honesty from my limited knowledge it's probably the GPU that limits the frame rate but that's only a guess as 8 cores @ 1.7ghz is plenty of processing power.
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The S9+ is not rooted, so it's on stock kernel.
Also, the emulator (mame) is designed to only use Cpu for 2d games, with Gpu used at minimum.
1.7 is far from enough, especially when it can go up to 2.7 to improve the otherwise non-optimal performance of the games. I'm very curious what's the issue here...
RaduNastase said:
The S9+ is not rooted, so it's on stock kernel.
Also, the emulator (mame) is designed to only use Cpu for 2d games, with Gpu used at minimum.
1.7 is far from enough, especially when it can go up to 2.7 to improve the otherwise non-optimal performance of the games. I'm very curious what's the issue here...
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Yea mine is stock as well - my observation was that in the first month or so I had hit 2.7 a fair amount, but haven't in the last 2 months once so assuming they modified the stock kernel
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Yea mine is stock as well - my observation was that in the first month or so I had hit 2.7 a fair amount, but haven't in the last 2 months once so assuming they modified the stock kernel
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Oh, now i understand. Well, it's very strange and frankly, a bit alarming. Could anyone else with up to date stock software share some numbers as well?
Same.
Same here on G965FXXU2BRG6.
Edit: It seems that CPU Spy doesn't work correctly on the S9. When using CPU-Z and running Geekbench 4, I can clearly see CPUs 4-7 running at 2704 MHz at times.
That's interesting. So my next test will have to involve Cpu-z as a monitoring tool. Thanks for the replies guys.
We need a cristal clear answer on this.
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Yea mine is stock as well - my observation was that in the first month or so I had hit 2.7 a fair amount, but haven't in the last 2 months once so assuming they modified the stock kernel
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Ran Antutu on S9+ Snapdragon last night, it's being throttled down to a max. of 1.77MHz and no more even during antutu's 15 minutes Stress Test. It would score much higher if it was allowed to.
...an error, please remove.
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Ran Antutu on S9+ Snapdragon last night, it's being throttled down to a max. of 1.77MHz and no more even during antutu's 15 minutes Stress Test. It would score much higher if it was allowed to.
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God damn it. Haven't got the time to do further testing myself yet, but by the looks of it 1.7 seems to be the max. and not 2.7.
Any rooted phones owners care to share some numbers? Can you lock it to 2.7 like it should?
Are we talking Exynos or Snapdragon here? That'd be a good piece of info while sharing the stats!
Personally i'm talking about exynos, but apparently snapdragon behaves the same.
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Ran Antutu on S9+ Snapdragon last night, it's being throttled down to a max. of 1.77MHz and no more even during antutu's 15 minutes Stress Test. It would score much higher if it was allowed to.
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Post#9 was about Snapdragon
Has anyone tried hitting the "Performance mode" toggle in the drop down menu? Stupid question, but easily overlooked.
IrishRegent said:
Has anyone tried hitting the "Performance mode" toggle in the drop down menu? Stupid question, but easily overlooked.
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Yes, i tried all settings including performance mode. It only affects brightness and screen resolution. The Cpu speed is still limited to a 1.7 max.
RaduNastase said:
Yes, i tried all settings including performance mode. It only affects brightness and screen resolution. The Cpu speed is still limited to a 1.7 max.
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bummer.
RaduNastase said:
Yes, i tried all settings including performance mode. It only affects brightness and screen resolution. The Cpu speed is still limited to a 1.7 max.
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I did the same, then I tried in WQHD+ resolution hoping that it may create more demand from CPU/GPU and no, same 1.7. What is the best way to make a complaint about it to Samsung? We bought an 8 cylinder Maserati and after the honeymoon they remotely disabled two because the engine might blow?
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I did the same, then I tried in WQHD+ resolution hoping that it may create more demand from CPU/GPU and no, same 1.7. What is the best way to make a complaint about it to Samsung? We bought an 8 cylinder Maserati and after the honeymoon they remotely disabled two because the engine might blow?
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Probably the official forums.
It would be great if a rooted user with a Cpu oriented kernel (overclocking, voltage, governor manipulation) would show us that those big cores can, at least when rooted, be used at full potential.
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Probably the official forums.
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Thanks, am gonna register there, see what they have to say about it. That and my other question I'd have: why I received my 'new' S9+ with IMEI SV 07? And when I did IMEI lookup on line, found out that the phone was registered for warranty one month before I ordered it. My email to Customer Service was returned with "Samsung sells only brand new phones". Didn't know that there is no replacement policy at Samsung, you can only return it for refund, it's not a good option for me, because I took that 'bundle deal' and I don't owe the Chromebook anymore, they would subtract some$ from it. Well, according to Samsung, the warranty on my phone runs until October '19, we'll see.
i only root unistall not usefull apps and i install the xtreme kernel for Pocophone
I love my phone after see your antutu result
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i only root unistall not usefull apps and i install the xtreme kernel for Pocophone
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If those devices use overclocked kernel, you can't even guess what will be their benchmark scores. So, let's not compare our device with the might of Mate 20 Pro or Rog Phone. They are way more powerful and advanced.
We are already happy of what we have in this price range and who cares what the benchmark score is.
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If those devices use overclocked kernel, you can't even guess what will be their benchmark scores. So, let's not compare our device with the might of Mate 20 Pro or Rog Phone. They are way more powerful and advanced.
We are already happy of what we have in this price range and who cares what the benchmark score is.
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It will be approximately the same because there's a hard limit on what the sd845 is capable of. Both those phones have the same processor at the end of the day.
Lol idk what the point is benchmarking an unstable kernel on a phone.
likely with fsync off and zram off going to ruin your phone
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Lol idk what the point is benchmarking an unstable kernel on a phone.
likely with fsync off and zram off going to ruin your phone
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In the benchmark of the OP has fsync on and zram doesn't ruin your phone if you disable it, until I know.
Antutu means nothing.
Smoothness and stability is the deal.
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If those devices use overclocked kernel, you can't even guess what will be their benchmark scores. So, let's not compare our device with the might of Mate 20 Pro or Rog Phone. They are way more powerful and advanced.
We are already happy of what we have in this price range and who cares what the benchmark score is.
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Get your facts straight before posting misinformation on this forum: Rog phone is also using the same 845 soc but have a little bit better thermal cooling system. maybe it will perform 4-7% better than poco f1 in best case.
Soc 845 soc is still fastest soc availble on market currently and the poco has 1 included
What can You do with this Tutu score? Does it feeds You? Or it's enlarger for Your tiny ..... ?
Can't quite understand those human beings trying to achieve some virtual score - it is only one side of coin. More important is general every day usability. Don't You think so?
Already getting 300084 Antutu Score on Miui 10 8.12.27. No root, nothing custom. Everything stock.
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Get your facts straight before posting misinformation on this forum: Rog phone is also using the same 845 soc but have a little bit better thermal cooling system. maybe it will perform 4-7% better than poco f1 in best case.
Soc 845 soc is still fastest soc availble on market currently and the poco has 1 included
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Are you blind or what? The OP showing screenshot of Poco with Extreme kernel that has overclocked CPU of 3.2GHz compared to ROG phone that has 2.8GHz CPU without overclocking. That's what I said. If ROG phone also uses an overclocked CPU with 3.2GHz or something like that, it will destroy his overclocked Poco.
Is it really necessary to jump on commenting (rather indulging others into a fight) without even reading properly? And you are nobody to instruct me what I should do or what I shouldn't. If you have written your comment in a friendly manner, I would have taken it easy.
It would be interesting to see custom ROMs scores too
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... Extreme kernel that has overclocked CPU of 3.2GHz ...
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Where it is written that this kernel can and applies overclock to the sdm845 cpu capable of reaching that frequency?
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What can You do with this Tutu score? Does it feeds You? Or it's enlarger for Your tiny ..... ?
Can't quite understand those human beings trying to achieve some virtual score - it is only one side of coin. More important is general every day usability. Don't You think so?
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It is a psychological effect where it increases the intrinsic value of the item thereby creating greater product satisfaction.
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Are you blind or what? The OP showing screenshot of Poco with Extreme kernel that has overclocked CPU of 3.2GHz compared to ROG phone that has 2.8GHz CPU without overclocking. That's what I said. If ROG phone also uses an overclocked CPU with 3.2GHz or something like that, it will destroy his overclocked Poco.
Is it really necessary to jump on commenting (rather indulging others into a fight) without even reading properly? And you are nobody to instruct me what I should do or what I shouldn't. If you have written your comment in a friendly manner, I would have taken it easy.
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Hey, 3.2ghz overclock by extreme kernal show some proof not just talk please,be rational not emotional ???
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It is a psychological effect where it increases the intrinsic value of the item thereby creating greater product satisfaction.
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Well said bro... Maturity shines
I'm on aosp since early days, around 220k antutu, and still happy with the roms around xda than memeUI. Trust me, antutu is almost meaningless now.