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So I tried one of the tricks floating around to sort of calibrate the batter. I charged to 100% like any normal charge, then in Tenfar's I wiped the battery stats. Then, as a guide said, I have let my battery completely die. However, I plugged my phone into my WALL charger, and it immediately started booting but it booted into Tenfar's..... I thought that was weird, but then I clicked on reboot system to have it boot normally, and it just died again partway through. I turned it on again after unplugging and replugging, but it booted into Tenfar's again. Then I left it there for a sec to see if it could gather some charge while in that screen, but it just died again. I don't know why it's not working...?
Ohhh crap. You've done it now. You have to sbf flash, but honestly I don't know if you have enough charge for that.. what you did is disable the feature to charge without fully booting up, and your phone automatically goes into recovery which doesn't actually charge the phone.
I believe your best bet is to buy a new battery, or go into AT&T and use one of their batterys... switch to charge mode in tenfars recovery app, switch back to your dead battery, let it charge. Then your good. make sure your Atrix NEVER dies while in recovery mode (set from the cwm app.)
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Well, while in the CWM recovery, I clicked reboot again, but this time I quickly pulled the charger out and then plugged it back in, and it worked. It must have started taking the charge again because it finished booting up and now my phone is working well and is charged again! Crisis averted.
But really...why did tenfar's even open up right when I plugged my phone in? I hadn't been using it recently or anything..
Draining the battery down to zero does not need to be done on lithium batteries. That is a trick for NiCad batteries to keep them from building a memory.
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Beard, tenfars cwm is hacked so that it works on the Atrix. The way it works is replacing that charging thing with the recovery.
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jbrussee said:
Beard, tenfars cwm is hacked so that it works on the Atrix. The way it works is replacing that charging thing with the recovery.
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What do you mean? What "charging thing"?
Also, Sifon, so basically the threads that gave methods of battery calibration that involved draining to zero were lying to me? those dastards! Thanks for the tip though, I'll be sure to never EVER EVER EVER do that again lol.
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What do you mean? What "charging thing"?
Also, Sifon, so basically the threads that gave methods of battery calibration that involved draining to zero were lying to me? those dastards! Thanks for the tip though, I'll be sure to never EVER EVER EVER do that again lol.
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Internet sarcasm doesn't work . But seriously, these Lithium Batteries physically do not gain anything from being fully discharged. Keyword physically
Battery Calibration
Sorry to hear you had a scare... right now the cwm situation is a bit sketchy but booting to recovery is a must. Now I'm not gonna start a whole "liion batteries don't need depletion because they have no memory yada yada" convo but the the results don't lie and let me explain why.
From what I've learned from my xda lurking, there is an amount of battery that is reserved so that it isn't completely dead. Now with all our meddling and rebooting this can get out of sync thus reporting wrong battery stats. The only time it has to learn new battery stats is when it has been forced manually ( calibration app found in the nexus forums) or when android reports that it thinks the battery is dead. So instead of 5% being 5% its more like 5% is 20% so from what I've observed and tested is that when bad battery drain is attributed to this you will experience 100% drain to 60% very rapidly and then it slows down. When bad battery drain is attributed to a rogue app it drains rapidly regardless of the amount of charge and doesn't really slow down at all.
Just so were on the same page I agree that the actual battery is fine ( no liion battery memory ) its android that gets a lil screwey. So in theory this doesn't make sense... I know.. but the results speak for themselves.. 4 hours up and 94% left... facebook twitter and gmail all synced once an hour. Before I would have been at 80% and then it would slow down. I hope someone can benefit from this
Alright, thanks for the replies guys. And yeah I agree, at this point CWM is a must...just a little weird that it would come on when my phone boots after dying. Oh well. And Sifon haha sorry, I was kind of afraid that post would come off the wrong way haha but really, I was actually accepting what you were saying lol.
Anyway, back on topic, since I've done all that my phone is now at 77% and it's been on for about 24 hours (maybe less, it seems the count got a little off for some reason). Does that sound pretty good? Wasn't overly using, but also wasn't NOT using it either. I tend to leave Wifi/data, etc. off when I'm not going to be using it for a while.
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Alright, thanks for the replies guys. And yeah I agree, at this point CWM is a must...just a little weird that it would come on when my phone boots after dying. Oh well. And Sifon haha sorry, I was kind of afraid that post would come off the wrong way haha but really, I was actually accepting what you were saying lol.
Anyway, back on topic, since I've done all that my phone is now at 77% and it's been on for about 24 hours (maybe less, it seems the count got a little off for some reason). Does that sound pretty good? Wasn't overly using, but also wasn't NOT using it either. I tend to leave Wifi/data, etc. off when I'm not going to be using it for a while.
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Well I am sorry too, because I did not realize how Android handled the battery. Since Android can incorrectly detect the battery level, these methods should work on the OS side.
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Alright, thanks for the replies guys. And yeah I agree, at this point CWM is a must...just a little weird that it would come on when my phone boots after dying. Oh well. And Sifon haha sorry, I was kind of afraid that post would come off the wrong way haha but really, I was actually accepting what you were saying lol.
Anyway, back on topic, since I've done all that my phone is now at 77% and it's been on for about 24 hours (maybe less, it seems the count got a little off for some reason). Does that sound pretty good? Wasn't overly using, but also wasn't NOT using it either. I tend to leave Wifi/data, etc. off when I'm not going to be using it for a while.
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Well I am sorry too, because I did not realize how Android handled the battery. Since Android can incorrectly detect the battery level, these methods should work on the OS side.
BTW, your battery life is kicking mines ass right now
Okay, my battery seems even more screwed up now. It dropped 10% in like an hour after I left my apartment this morning, and I barely used it, Wifi/data weren't on...The real kicker is I just got back to my apartment and noticed it dropped another 10% during a timespan that I literally didn't even look at my phone once, over like another hour or so...wtf?
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Okay, my battery seems even more screwed up now. It dropped 10% in like an hour after I left my apartment this morning, and I barely used it, Wifi/data weren't on...The real kicker is I just got back to my apartment and noticed it dropped another 10% during a timespan that I literally didn't even look at my phone once, over like another hour or so...wtf?
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You may just have a faulty battery. Id call Moto, or go to a ATT store and see if you can get a replacement.
Before you get a new battery I'd like to try something. Drain it down nice and good (say 3% - 5%) then plug into your wall, enter cwm and hit charge mode. This should charge your phone when it is off. Unless you need an alarm
If after that it still gives you grief, then its time to call moto.
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First let me apologize in advance because I'm sure I'm not posting this properly.....but..............
My son mailed his htc hd2 to me and it just arrived in the mail. I opened it, turned it on and it all looked great except it said "no sim card". I turned it back off and inserted the sim card, and pressed the power button.................NOTHING......
What have I done wrong?
Please help me!
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First let me apologize in advance because I'm sure I'm not posting this properly.....but..............
My son mailed his htc hd2 to me and it just arrived in the mail. I opened it, turned it on and it all looked great except it said "no sim card". I turned it back off and inserted the sim card, and pressed the power button.................NOTHING......
What have I done wrong?
Please help me!
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Hey there,
I have my Vibrant for a good year now since it came out pretty much. Last week it just stopped charging out the blue. The battery is completely empty and shows a thermometer with a warning sign and stops charging seconds after its plugged in. So I assumed it might be a battery malfunction and I got my spare battery in as soon as I came home and tried charging - same problem. I think it is highly unlikely that both batteries fail at the same time. Therefore, I assume there is something wrong with the temp sensor in the phone. I saw a few people have a similar problem with the epic 4G, but the discussion got really side tracked by other issues. My phone is rooted, but I was running stock froyo, so that shouldn't be the problem or should it?
I just wanna know if anybody had the same problems and if there is a quick solution, I google and forum searched a while but as soon as you throw in the term battery it gets spammed with battery life discussions.I just checked my files I have on the phone, apparently I have the premium insurance - does that mean I just can go to the next Tmo store and get a replacement? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Phill
Well for your problem, i suggest you try a different rom and see if the problem persists... maybe its a bug
And as for insurance, you mail the phone in and pay a deductible, which should be like 135$ or so. They send you a refurb.. or if you say it wus lost, you dont have to mail in phone
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thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to reflash without a battery?
I don't see it as a bad thing. If your phone gets too hot and keeps charging that's going to burn something inside. When my phone won't charge I know I have let it down. So it can cool down. But to fix your problem reboot the phone. You can keep charging it after it boots up
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thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to reflash without a battery?
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As long as your phone can run successfully for a couple minutes, i dont see why not
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Mine did something similar. I picked it up after putting it on the charger. It was hot and would not come on. I unplugged it and let it cool off for a while and it cleared up.
I got that message once...
Vibrant was in a car dock, with power.
It was *HOT* out and sun was hitting the back of the unit. (A/C on of course)
Google Navigation was running (display brightness max)
Google Listen was running
Bluetooth was passing music to a speakerphone
When I run the phone with that setup, the charger can't even keep up with the phone power needs. The battery level slowly drops. No question the phone is working hard.
This was a true heat issue... I removed the charger and turned off the display to let it cool off a bit. (I was almost home).
So the question again, is your phone hot or is it a false reading?
Robert
Hey,
I am sorry I didn't clarify the actual battery temp. It is normal - so its neither in the sun or in a too cold spot when I try charging it. The phone probably runs for one for a few seconds before turning off so there is no chance of the battery stats wipe. I think I will try to find an external charger and try to charge the batteries this way to have enough juice for flashing a new rom. Thanks for all the replies!
Does it charge the battery with the phone off? If not, I don't think a new ROM will help.
Hey there! Wondering if you got around to solving this. I've got a Vibrant doing the same exact thing. Battery being cool it sais that is overheating. Did changing the ROM solved it or not?
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Hey there! Wondering if you got around to solving this. I've got a Vibrant doing the same exact thing. Battery being cool it sais that is overheating. Did changing the ROM solved it or not?
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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but a resolution never seemed to be made here. Has anybody found a fix to this?
As of yesterday, my wife is having the same issue with my old Vibrant phone which she now uses. It's flashed with Bionix V 1.3.1 and Tigerblood overclock to 1.2ghz. This could be the issue, the Tiger Blood overclock, but I'm not sure. I'm out of the country for three weeks and currently she's left with a dud of a phone that keeps giving her the temperature warning in the triangle when plugged in while the phone is powered off followed by it stop charging. When she turns it on, she gets to the SD card check and then the phone completely freezes. Once in a while it's able to stay on for a minute or so before freezing, but more often than not the phone does not fully turn on and just goes frozen after a few seconds, sometimes at the Tigerblood logon screen before making it to the desktop. Me being 4000 miles away doesn't make it easier to help her but I've recommended she leave the phone unplugged, battery out for the night to see what happens. I also told her to take off her silicon case thinking maybe that has something to do with the overheating. Well after 7 hours of her letting it sit to cool off like that, with the case off, she plugged it back in and is having the same issues as yesterday. Absolutely no progress made. One of her colleagues said she should try leaving the phone in rice confused:) so she's giving that a go and another guy in a phone shop who she went to for advice after work said that the motherboard might need replacing. I'm convinced all it needs is to have the Tigerblood removed or reflash a rom onto it but there's really no knowing unless I have it in my hand.
Is there any quick fix to this problem without having to do all that? Surely there must be a way to charge the phone without it heating up and freezing up. She's tried plugging it into different rooms, on her laptop, etc, none seem to get rid of the temperature problem. I've had the phone since August 2010 and never had any issues with it. I also never once saw that temperature error message so was taken aback when she showed me it over skype. I just upgraded to the S3 and gave her the phone 2 weeks ago, but surely it shouldn't just die out just like that? Thought the Vibrants were made tougher than that?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance
Its most probably a kernel issue or a bug in the rom; so the only way to find out is to flash another kernel/rom..
P.s Vibrants are rock solid
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danny_extremex said:
Its most probably a kernel issue or a bug in the rom; so the only way to find out is to flash another kernel/rom..
P.s Vibrants are rock solid
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Will be looking into reflashing another kernel/rom when I get home in a few weeks time, but it must be noted that the phone has been showing no signs of life for the last few days now. After letting it sit out for 7 hours on the first night, battery out and everything, she went to plug it in the following morning and this time absolutely no notification came up. Not even a lighting up of the phone or anything. No signs of life at all. Every time she hit the power button nothing occurred. The phone still heats up and after a few minutes while plugged in and gets very hot to the touch again but no matter how many times she attempts to turn it on, nothing happens.. She's tried plugging it into her computer via usb, into electric sockets in other rooms, even in the bathroom in one of the 115 volt electric shaver outlets in the bathroom (we live in the UK currently), and none of these ideas worked. Still no signs of life. It has been this way for three days now and is frustrating as I can offer no advice to her to get the phone to turn on anymore.
What on earth can be the problem? Has this happened to anyone before? And is there a fix to this or can we consider the phone to be a paperweight at this point?
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Will be looking into reflashing another kernel/rom when I get home in a few weeks time, but it must be noted that the phone has been showing no signs of life for the last few days now. After letting it sit out for 7 hours on the first night, battery out and everything, she went to plug it in the following morning and this time absolutely no notification came up. Not even a lighting up of the phone or anything. No signs of life at all. Every time she hit the power button nothing occurred. The phone still heats up and after a few minutes while plugged in and gets very hot to the touch again but no matter how many times she attempts to turn it on, nothing happens.. She's tried plugging it into her computer via usb, into electric sockets in other rooms, even in the bathroom in one of the 115 volt electric shaver outlets in the bathroom (we live in the UK currently), and none of these ideas worked. Still no signs of life. It has been this way for three days now and is frustrating as I can offer no advice to her to get the phone to turn on anymore.
What on earth can be the problem? Has this happened to anyone before? And is there a fix to this or can we consider the phone to be a paperweight at this point?
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Some kernels require a certain amount of power to fully boot the phone up and will not charge until it has 5% battery or so. I personally think her battery may be unable to hold a charge or like I said before it doesn't have enough juice to boot the phone because of the kernel. There is a way to charge the battery with the phone off. You can use ANY kind of usb cord, I used an old printer usb cable when I had to do this. All you do is cut off the side that is not usb and strip the positive and negative wires(red and black), then place the stripped wires on the positive and negative connectors on the back of the phone and insert the battery (make sure it's a snug fit). Plug the usb end into your pc and charge the battery that way, DO NOT let charge for over 2 minutes at a time. Wait five minutes and do it again if you have to. If she gets it to boot up, I would definitely flash a new kernel first to see if thats how the problem originated.
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Ok first off im on a verizon galaxy with the S4, but the forums are being mismanaged atm so I thought you int'l guys could give me some insight :fingers-crossed:
Anyway, Had the phone for a couple weeks, noticed that sometimes (like my previous Droids) it would overheat here or there. I was playing a game for a good while, maybe almost an hour, phone was a bit warm, next thing I know screen goes black. No buttons will revive it AND it goes into some vibrate mode. The phone vibrates probably a good 5 times. Maybe this is a vibrate sequence telling me my phone just melted? lol..
Ive let it sit and cool, and still no go. Every time I hold the power button I just get one little vibrate from it. Ive tried letting it charge for a bit (no screen comes on telling me its charging). pulling the battery.
My only option is to go to verizon and get a new one I suppose.. Anyone heard of this happening or know what that vibrate sequence meant?
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Ok first off im on a verizon galaxy with the S4, but the forums are being mismanaged atm so I thought you int'l guys could give me some insight :fingers-crossed:
Anyway, Had the phone for a couple weeks, noticed that sometimes (like my previous Droids) it would overheat here or there. I was playing a game for a good while, maybe almost an hour, phone was a bit warm, next thing I know screen goes black. No buttons will revive it AND it goes into some vibrate mode. The phone vibrates probably a good 5 times. Maybe this is a vibrate sequence telling me my phone just melted? lol..
Ive let it sit and cool, and still no go. Every time I hold the power button I just get one little vibrate from it. Ive tried letting it charge for a bit (no screen comes on telling me its charging). pulling the battery.
My only option is to go to verizon and get a new one I suppose.. Anyone heard of this happening or know what that vibrate sequence meant?
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See what happens if you pull the battery, wait for a few minutes. Reboot in recovery, wipe data/factory reset and cache and then reboot.
annddd.. Im a retard. lol. I was using my wireless headphone microusb charger which was well underrated, causing the phone to discharge as I used it -__-
And I guess the phone/battery didnt adjust to tell me it was discharging
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annddd.. Im a retard. lol. I was using my wireless headphone microusb charger which was well underrated, causing the phone to discharge as I used it -__-
And I guess the phone/battery didnt adjust to tell me it was discharging
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Hahaha, I've had that happen to me when charging on pc usb, was pretty surprised i could get it to discharge faster than my pc was pumping 475 into it.
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I think it means ur battery is dead. In this case even trying to charge the phone will not work because u still need a little powe in the battery to start the phone and kick-start the charging process. only option you have is to get another battery or use one of them external battery chargers and see.
I've never had it happen on the S3 but a couple of times on the S1.
If they've not changed that, then it's sufficient to just let the phone lie there for half an hour with the charger plugged in and it will become bootable.
No need to swap the battery
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I think it means ur battery is dead. In this case even trying to charge the phone will not work because u still need a little powe in the battery to start the phone and kick-start the charging process. only option you have is to get another battery or use one of them external battery chargers and see.
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In most cases the battery is not really dead, there are special chargers that have the ability to revive such batteries. I'm not too good with that stuff but somehow when the voltage drops too low the internal electronic in the battery which controls part of the charging process is somewhat shut down. These chargers I was talking about have the ability to power these internals back up and so get the usual battery charging process running again.
I'm not sure but for all I know this can save batteries but those batteries will most likely have reduced capacity.
Hope this helps!
For yours or anyones info: i have been using the s3 the last couple of days in 110 degrees ( Vegas area) for hours while navigating, charging and on full brightness, on the dashboard in the sun. No sweat from the phone
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If you can't found any error, Reset your phone. If not your hardware faulty,phone will ok
Has anyone ever ran the battery so low it wont even charge? my battery was dying on me so i plugged it in the charger at 5% life left. i forgot i had my settings at "never sleep while charging" so the screen was on the whole time. last i saw, it was at 1% and then it shut off. its been plugged in for about 20 minutes and i still cant power it on, it does nothing. funny thing is i can get it into DL mode but not recovery or anything. i put my wifes battery in and it powers up though. so what gives?
Have you tried your charger in your wife's phone to make sure that the charger hasn't stopped working?
However, I would imagine there is the chance that your battery is dead.
yea i just did that. turns out my phone's port is bad again! for the 4th time
It might be easier and cheaper to just get a second battery and an external charger if it keeps going out on you. They're fairly cheap on ebay.
A healthy battery should not allow you to get to the state it won't charge. Even if you run your phone down to 0%, it would just turn itself off and let you charge it. I think you battery is defective.
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It might be easier and cheaper to just get a second battery and an external charger if it keeps going out on you. They're fairly cheap on ebay.
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at this point it is true. but i just dont feel like walking with another battery. it is working for now, as i took it apart and stuck something behind the board by the port. it was very coroded at the connection and atleast 1 broken away. i am going to get it fixed 1 more time ,$35 at Dr phone fix.
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at this point it is true. but i just dont feel like walking with another battery. it is working for now, as i took it apart and stuck something behind the board by the port. it was very coroded at the connection and atleast 1 broken away. i am going to get it fixed 1 more time ,$35 at Dr phone fix.
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I suggest you try a different place if this is the 4th time it happens.
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Has anyone ever ran the battery so low it wont even charge? my battery was dying on me so i plugged it in the charger at 5% life left. i forgot i had my settings at "never sleep while charging" so the screen was on the whole time. last i saw, it was at 1% and then it shut off. its been plugged in for about 20 minutes and i still cant power it on, it does nothing. funny thing is i can get it into DL mode but not recovery or anything. i put my wifes battery in and it powers up though. so what gives?
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yes, I have studied android battery, have to find some reason.
My phone is having issues charging even with three different cables. If I plug the phone in while it is off, it turns on and says it's charging. But it doesn't receive a charge. If the phone is on and I plug it in, it says it's charging on the lock screen, but the icon doesn't change to the charging symbol and it doesn't receive a charge. I have tried wiggle the cable a bit while it's plugged in, but that doesn't help. It doesn't seem like others are having this same issue either. Am I screwed? I also unlocked my phone. Does that mean I am double screw and Huawei won't help me?
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Hey all, here is a quick update. I spoke with a gentle from Huawei and was suppose to get a replacement sent out. However, I believe I was under volt charging the device and that's why I got those strange issues. It recharges every time from my car and my computer, but not from my wall. Kimtyson, Huawei said the exact same thing as you. Good call!
With the phone running, go to Phone Manager and then go to Power Saving and then Consumption Level. Is Cell Standby draining your battery? It is on mine.
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With the phone running, go to Phone Manager and then go to Power Saving and then Consumption Level. Is Cell Standby draining your battery? It is on mine.
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For me, it's only 2.94%. I have to say though, going from 4.3 to 5.1 was a huge difference in life battery. For the worse. I went from one charge every 3 to 4 days to once a day.
However, I believe the USB port might be broken. I don't know why though. I haven't been rough it or charged it at a angle that would put extra pressure on it.
It might be worth doing a factory reset and\or reinstalling. Could be a bad flash or something. Also, try returning to JB. Just make a TWRP backup or something so you can get back to where you are now. See if everything is working back in JB. If so, it's not the USB port.