Related
Hi, got this phone for 1 month now used MM for 2 weeks then updated to Nougat but I didnt like it. Now I want to downgrade to MM is it possible with RSD Lite? If yes how? If no will factory reset solve battery drain, awfull notifications, over heating problems?
How did you upgrade? If you updated the bootloader to the N version, I'm not sure if you can revert back to MM.
OTAs are the Evil. :silly:
Updated via OTA. I could downgrade Samsung S4 isnt it possible with Moto Z? I did hard reset, downloaded my apps then closed my phone and charged it. I don't know what happened while phone was booting but it wasn't %100 battery charge btw. This battery life is killing me..
I'm sure you are not able to get back to Marshmallow because the OTA installs a new bootloader that is incompatible with the original Marshmallow
lollyjay said:
I'm sure you are not able to get back to Marshmallow because the OTA installs a new bootloader that is incompatible with the original Marshmallow
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I have to wait for fix eh
Which version did you apply?
If you updated to Nougat via OTA, there is currently no safe and simple way to downgrade back to Marshmallow as the OTA also updates the bootloader, meaning that Nougat is the oldest OS that is supported on that bootloader.
That's why I unlocked the bootloader on mine and used the technique outlined in the following thread. Not only do you get a perfectly working Nougat OS but also allows you to keep the old bootloader should you decide to downgrade to Marshmallow.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/android-nougat-moto-z-versions-t3506342
D13H4RD2L1V3 said:
If you updated to Nougat via OTA, there is currently no safe and simple way to downgrade back to Marshmallow as the OTA also updates the bootloader, meaning that Nougat is the oldest OS that is supported on that bootloader.
That's why I unlocked the bootloader on mine and used the technique outlined in the following thread. Not only do you get a perfectly working Nougat OS but also allows you to keep the old bootloader should you decide to downgrade to Marshmallow.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/android-nougat-moto-z-versions-t3506342
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I do this method to upgrade to nougat, will I still be able to use android pay?
wilder_mason said:
If I do this method to upgrade to nougat, will I still be able to use android pay?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Android Pay detects not only root but also unlocked bootloader.
So in other words, no android pay guys
D13H4RD2L1V3 said:
If you updated to Nougat via OTA, there is currently no safe and simple way to downgrade back to Marshmallow as the OTA also updates the bootloader, meaning that Nougat is the oldest OS that is supported on that bootloader.
That's why I unlocked the bootloader on mine and used the technique outlined in the following thread. Not only do you get a perfectly working Nougat OS but also allows you to keep the old bootloader should you decide to downgrade to Marshmallow.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/android-nougat-moto-z-versions-t3506342
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It seemed too hard for me.. This is my first "almost" stock android experience I'm confused with fastboot commands etc.. I think i'll stay with stock android for a while..
tjk639 said:
Which version did you apply?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is it. Hope you can find what you asked mate
Orangley said:
This is it. Hope you can find what you asked mate
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah, I was hoping you had the first release of N. But it looks like you have the current one.
If someone reveals easy and safe way to downgrade please tag me I don't have much time to check forums
Nougat upgrade OTA leaves you in a tough position
My new Moto Z took an update from stock MM to Nougat 3 days after I got it. Stupid me, I should not have accepted the OTA update. But I did. And you cannot go back to MM because the update contains a new bootloader that makes it a one way trip.
Search my other posts in the last few days to see that you are not totally prevented from unlocking and rooting. But unlocking the bootloader leaves a trail forever because a solid state fuse gets tripped forever.
tjk639 said:
Ah, I was hoping you had the first release of N. But it looks like you have the current one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What version is the first release of nougat that allows downgrading? :victory:
Did not downgrade
i23u8 said:
What version is the first release of nougat that allows downgrading? :victory:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did not downgrade from 7.0.
I unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone with twrp 3.xx and then used phh's Superuser.
But I must admit that I have not loaded a third party ROM yet. I want to load stock 7.1.1 when Motorola releases it in February or March.
Question would it be possible to use RDS light or the program at the beginning of this form to unlock set bootloader and then proceed to route
What would be the best (most stable) update for a fresh, purely stock (reteu 6.0.1, no OTA update, bootloader not yet unlocked) Moto Z?
Update through OTA and then root? Would it prevent me from ever going back to Marshmallow?
Leave it without OTA update, root and then flash new ROM? Any recommendation for stability, root and moto-mods support?
LitD said:
What would be the best (most stable) update for a fresh, purely stock (reteu 6.0.1, no OTA update, bootloader not yet unlocked) Moto Z?
Update through OTA and then root? Would it prevent me from ever going back to Marshmallow?
Leave it without OTA update, root and then flash new ROM? Any recommendation for stability, root and moto-mods support?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you take the 7.x update then you can not go back to 6.x because it installs a new bootloader. That said, others here may have their own advice. Personally I have had no problems at all with my retus version.
lollyjay said:
If you take the 7.x update then you can not go back to 6.x because it installs a new bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought so, thank you for confirmation.
lollyjay said:
Personally I have had no problems at all with my retus version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you still on 6.x or 7.x ?
If 7.x - did you update through OTA?
Are there any reasons at all to stay on Marshmallow then?
LitD said:
I thought so, thank you for confirmation.
Are you still on 6.x or 7.x ?
If 7.x - did you update through OTA?
Are there any reasons at all to stay on Marshmallow then?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am on stock 7.1.1
As there is still no OTA 7.1.1 for my Moto Z (which is strange, it seems that reteu got it already), I will probably have to take a more 'manual' way...
I will need unlocked bootloader to root anyway
LitD said:
As there is still no OTA 7.1.1 for my Moto Z (which is strange, it seems that reteu got it already), I will probably have to take a more 'manual' way...
I will need unlocked bootloader to root anyway
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pull out the sim card, reboot your device and push the sim card back. Wait a while, then check in settings, about phone, softwareupdate if the 7.1.1 OTA is there.
If you're still on stock marshmallow you should receive several OTAs, one after the other.
bullfinch110 said:
Pull out the sim card, reboot your device and push the sim card back. Wait a while, then check in settings, about phone, softwareupdate if the 7.1.1 OTA is there.
If you're still on stock marshmallow you should receive several OTAs, one after the other.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I already did so a few days ago - no 7.1.1 OTA
I got one OTA but it was still 6.0.1
LitD said:
I already did so a few days ago - no 7.1.1 OTA
I got one OTA but it was still 6.0.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check, if your simcard is recognized by your device under settings, about phone, status of sim....if there is no provider or imei number, try another sim. I recall someone said, the OTA checks for the sim imei. If that doesn't help, try a factory reset and start from 0.
LitD said:
I already did so a few days ago - no 7.1.1 OTA
I got one OTA but it was still 6.0.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can try this to get OTAs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/development/tool-motorola-ota-link-generator-tool-t3537039
Factory reset and replacing sim has worked - OTAs are here
Stock 7.1.1 - no problems so far, now I will have to root it.
Hello, is it possible to downgrade to stock MM rom directly from Oreo,or it has to be downgraded to NN first and then to MM ? I dont care about OTA updates and i wont use them,does it mean i can safely downgrade my android version without fear of bricking the device?
Thanks in advance !
svetaz11 said:
Hello, is it possible to downgrade to stock MM rom directly from Oreo,or it has to be downgraded to NN first and then to MM ? I dont care about OTA updates and i wont use them,does it mean i can safely downgrade my android version without fear of bricking the device?
Thanks in advance !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hi dude, i am not a developer, just want to share my experience, i couldnt even revert it back from oreo to nougat, people say it has different bootloader, so as long as you receiving oreo from OTA, i doubt you and i will stay at this goddamn slow **** oreo os until someone figure it out how to downgrade our firmware. see you :fingers-crossed:
bluenetters said:
hi dude, i am not a developer, just want to share my experience, i couldnt even revert it back from oreo to nougat, people say it has different bootloader, so as long as you receiving oreo from OTA, i doubt you and i will stay at this goddamn slow **** oreo os until someone figure it out how to downgrade our firmware. see you :fingers-crossed:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And if the stock oreo flash custom? Can anyone on any?
bluenetters said:
hi dude, i am not a developer, just want to share my experience, i couldnt even revert it back from oreo to nougat, people say it has different bootloader, so as long as you receiving oreo from OTA, i doubt you and i will stay at this goddamn slow **** oreo os until someone figure it out how to downgrade our firmware. see you :fingers-crossed:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess im still waiting then
Unreal_man said:
And if the stock oreo flash custom? Can anyone on any?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you find the way, please post it here
Hi guys,
Pie is laggy and buggy on my phone. Like on battery saver mode vibration continue to work, and when multitasking it's embarrassingly slow! ... The overall experience is bad. A factory reset didn't solve anything.
I want to downgrade to Oreo 22j. Can someone please guide me on how to do it?
My phone is a stock H930 and I used LGUP to update.
Thank you
Blueice87 said:
Hi guys,
Pie is laggy and buggy on my phone. Like on battery saver mode vibration continue to work, and when multitasking it's embarrassingly slow! ... The overall experience is bad. A factory reset didn't solve anything.
I want to downgrade to Oreo 22j. Can someone please guide me on how to do it?
My phone is a stock H930 and I used LGUP to update.
Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See post #2 of the EU H930 KDZ thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79964731&postcount=2
It talks about how to downgrade for bootloader unlock, but it's still downgrading from Pie to Oreo. Same method.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Blueice87 said:
Hi guys,
Pie is laggy and buggy on my phone. Like on battery saver mode vibration continue to work, and when multitasking it's embarrassingly slow! ... The overall experience is bad. A factory reset didn't solve anything.
I want to downgrade to Oreo 22j. Can someone please guide me on how to do it?
My phone is a stock H930 and I used LGUP to update.
Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you ever factory reset first?
Sent from my LG-H932 using XDA Labs
ChazzMatt said:
See post #2 of the EU H930 KDZ thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79964731&postcount=2
It talks about how to downgrade for bootloader unlock, but it's still downgrading from Pie to Oreo. Same method.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you so much. I am sorry, I missed that post
Back to smoothness again, feels so good. Hopefully next update will be better.
BROKEN1981 said:
Did you ever factory reset first?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you mean before the update? No I didn't. But I did after the update, which unfortunately resolved absolutely nothing.
Blueice87 said:
Hi guys,
Pie is laggy and buggy on my phone. Like on battery saver mode vibration continue to work, and when multitasking it's embarrassingly slow! ... The overall experience is bad. A factory reset didn't solve anything.
I want to downgrade to Oreo 22j. Can someone please guide me on how to do it?
My phone is a stock H930 and I used LGUP to update.
Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My H930 was also laggy after the V30b OTA flashed with LG UP, even after the factory reset. Then I downgraded to 22j and flashed the V30b KDZ which became available in this time. Whole another world. Smooth as butter.
Edvin73 said:
My H930 was also laggy after the V30b OTA flashed with LG UP, even after the factory reset. Then I downgraded to 22j and flashed the V30b KDZ which became available in this time. Whole another world. Smooth as butter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Edvin73,
Sorry I didn't quite understand.
Did you receive an OTA update on your phone and it was laggy? Which method exactly worked well for you?
I flashed the KDZ available here on XDA with LGUP, and it was laggy for me.
Blueice87 said:
Hi Edvin73,
Sorry I didn't quite understand.
Did you receive an OTA update on your phone and it was laggy? Which method exactly worked well for you?
I flashed the KDZ available here on XDA with LGUP, and it was laggy for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I didn't receive the OTA. I flashed the leaked V30b OTA I got here on XDA. Because the experience on Pie was awful (choppy, very bad battery life) even after a factory reset, I reflashed 22j KDZ with LG UP and decided to wait for a official Pie roll out. Few days later, I found out that the official Pie upgrade is available through LG bridge. That did it. My phone is at least as smooth as on Oreo and the battery life is quite amazing but it obviously depends from personal usage. The only thing that seems different is the RAM management. Now uses more RAM with the same settings and installed apps. Regards.
PS: Completely stock, no root, no unlocked bootloader, no anything rather than complete stock.
Thank you for your answer.
Yes I also noticed that Pie uses more RAM than Oreo and the RAM management was bad and random. Maybe 4Go don't cut it anymore? I don't know.
Glad to hear that it's working perfectly for you. Unfortunately I can't update through LG Bridge, I get the "Cannot check the software version" error
It is the same for me, my battery life since I've updated my phone by OTA is awful, is it possible to downgrade without rooting my phone which I've never did?
Dual mode lgup in Android File Host
pr0de said:
It is the same for me, my battery life since I've updated my phone by OTA is awful, is it possible to downgrade without rooting my phone which I've never did?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See post #2 of the EU H930 KDZ thread.
HOW TO DOWNGRADE BACK TO OREO
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79964731&postcount=2
While it talks about how to downgrade for bootloader unlock, it's still just downgrading from Pie to Oreo. Same method, no matter the reason.
Downgrading to Oreo KDZ has nothing to do with root. It's just most people who downgrade are doing that so they can then unlock bootloader and root (on early Oreo).
But you can downgrade to most recent Oreo, whatever you wish.
Use the method in post #2, ignore the reason most people use it.
ChazzMatt said:
See post #2 of the EU H930 KDZ thread.
HOW TO DOWNGRADE BACK TO OREO
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79964731&postcount=2
While it talks about how to downgrade for bootloader unlock, it's still just downgrading from Pie to Oreo. Same method, no matter the reason.
Downgrading to Oreo KDZ has nothing to do with root. It's just most people who downgrade are doing that so they can then unlock bootloader and root (on early Oreo).
But you can downgrade to most recent Oreo, whatever you wish.
Use the method in post #2, ignore the reason most people use it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cheers I'm gona use this :good:
No issues on my device during the first week. Only stock Gallery app is slower and more laggy than before. It's like cache is not working there so every time I open some folder in Gallery it starts loading pictures from beginning which is causing lags.
Some other issues are there with Nova launcher and multitasksing, but this is due to this launcher. On stock everything is fine.
My LGUP showing "please use latest dll LAF protocol does not match"
Since I flashed v300l30f pie firmware on my lg v30 oreo. I started seeing this message "please use latest dll,LAF protocol does not match" .
I tried many common dll but nothing solved my problem.
Jxi581 said:
Since I flashed v300l30f pie firmware on my lg v30 oreo. I started seeing this message "please use latest dll,LAF protocol does not match" .
I tried many common dll but nothing solved my problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need Dev Patched LGUP compatible with Pie.
You need to update to newest Dev Patched LGUP found in any of the Pie KDZ threads I maintain. Also found in Frankenstein thread.
Uninstall any prior version. Read Installation instructions carefully!
Can you provide me to the file for the pie patched dll. I am having the same issue
krayzieiyian23 said:
Can you provide me to the file for the pie patched dll. I am having the same issue
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's all here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/h930-lg-v30-european-market-t3951898
krayzieiyian23 said:
Can you provide me to the file for the pie patched dll. I am having the same issue
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We already answered that. Do you not read before posting?
Post #2 of this thread:
ChazzMatt said:
See post #2 of the EU H930 KDZ thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79964731&postcount=2
It talks about how to downgrade for bootloader unlock, but it's still downgrading from Pie to Oreo. Same method.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then again just above your question.
ChazzMatt said:
See post #2 of the EU H930 KDZ thread.
HOW TO DOWNGRADE BACK TO OREO
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79964731&postcount=2
While it talks about how to downgrade for bootloader unlock, it's still just downgrading from Pie to Oreo. Same method, no matter the reason.
Downgrading to Oreo KDZ has nothing to do with root. It's just most people who downgrade are doing that so they can then unlock bootloader and root (on early Oreo).
But you can downgrade to most recent Oreo, whatever you wish.
Use the method in post #2, ignore the reason most people use it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also told you 7 different places to get it in this forum...
ChazzMatt said:
You need Dev Patched LGUP compatible with Pie.
You need to update to newest Dev Patched LGUP found in any of the (6) Pie KDZ threads I maintain.
Also found in Frankenstein thread (in the instructions post).
Uninstall any prior version. Read Installation instructions carefully!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi guys,
I'm want to go to stock LG PIE Firmware.
I have the LG H930 and am from the UK.
Can anyone help me with how to get back to stock and which PIE firmware I should use for my phone?
There seems to be a wide range of stock pie firmware and want to ensure I get the correct one.
Also wanting to unroot and lock the bootloader
Thanks,
Ross
Roshi69 said:
Hi guys,
I'm want to go to stock LG PIE Firmware.
I have the LG H930 and am from the UK.
Can anyone help me with how to get back to stock and which PIE firmware I should use for my phone?
There seems to be a wide range of stock pie firmware and want to ensure I get the correct one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What are you on right now?
If you have H930 and you live in UK, the answer is simply the EU H930 Pie KDZ.
[H930][STOCK][PIE]LG V30 European open market H93030b_00_OPEN_EU_OP_0704.kdz
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/h930-lg-v30-european-market-t3951898
I don't understand the dilemma. What other options were you considering?
Roshi69 said:
Also wanting to unroot and lock the bootloader
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I run rooted stock firmware with mods to customize and control my phone. I would never un-root and lock bootloader unless I was selling the phone.
Having TWRP custom recovery alone plus Titanium Backup app two tool I am loathe to give up.
ChazzMatt said:
What are you on right now?.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your help.
As much as I love a good boot loop, I just wanted to avoid one before going back to stock.
I'll check it out now
Roshi69 said:
Thanks for your help and being a **** at the same time.
As much as I love a good boot loop, I just wanted to avoid one before going back to stock
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad to be of help. I was merely curious about the "wide range of stock pie firmware" comment.
I only post full image KDZ or TWRP-flashable zips based on full image KDZ, and I post those in the ROMs section. Full image KDZ is stock, official LG firmware. (I maintain Nougat, Oreo, Pie KDZ threads for several V30 variants, but they are all clearly labelled for which variant and which OS.)
Yes, someone has posted beta Pie partial image "update" files -- which by definition are not yet official release and possibly buggy.
Stick with KDZ and you'll be OK.