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Worth having a LG G2 (D802) for a 16gb Lg Nexus 5x 16gb? 5x already are aware that the processor Snapdragon 808, a new gpu Adreno I do not remember the model name and fingerprint reader, but what about the battery life, fluidity, etc. how's 5x?
I've compared the 5X to my G2 on a number of occasions in shops. I can't see any difference at all in things like the screen.
Whilst the CPU/GPU is better, the amount of available RAM is less than our G2's as the 5X has the 64bit OS which is much more RAM guzzling. I've experienced this issue on the Nexus 9 which is plagued with poor performance as it constantly runs out of RAM. :crying:
If you need that fingerprint reader and the price is right, go for it. For me, I don't consider it an upgrade to our G2's.
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I've compared the 5X to my G2 on a number of occasions in shops. I can't see any difference at all in things like the screen.
Whilst the CPU/GPU is better, the amount of available RAM is less than our G2's as the 5X has the 64bit OS which is much more RAM guzzling. I've experienced this issue on the Nexus 9 which is plagued with poor performance as it constantly runs out of RAM. :crying:
If you need that fingerprint reader and the price is right, go for it. For me, I don't consider it an upgrade to our G2's.
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Will not be an update, however the grade g2 modded loses many things including: photo quality, discreet audio, screen quality is not comparable as when using the stock, the power button lights up only with rom stock, and with bootstack ibribo if you put in charge the phone while it's turned off and you go to turn on your phone goes in bootloop. However from what I see the 5x even with the custom rom does not lose any of that.
LG G4's price has dropped. G4 would be an upgrade, I personally still prefer the G2 over the G4 because of its body and it feels more comfortable to hold. But the 5X is no upgrade.
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LG G4's price has dropped. G4 would be an upgrade, I personally still prefer the G2 over the G4 because of its body and it feels more comfortable to hold. But the 5X is no upgrade.
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G4 has below average battery and most have bootloop issue
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Will not be an update, however the grade g2 modded loses many things including: photo quality, discreet audio, screen quality is not comparable as when using the stock, the power button lights up only with rom stock, and with bootstack ibribo if you put in charge the phone while it's turned off and you go to turn on your phone goes in bootloop. However from what I see the 5x even with the custom rom does not lose any of that.
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I cant comment as I've never used a custom rom on the G2. I'm using stock 20H rooted with exposed to get a recents button. Even though I'm using an out of date OS, I never have issues with RAM and chrome tabs having to reload constantly. Much better performance than a Nexus 9.
Are G4 roms up to par? I'm looking to upgrade asap but not looking to get into the same problems I've had with G2 roms (ie no camera drivers, lag on stock roms, etc...no fault of the rom devs, props for their efforts). I'm just looking for a 100% working phone at this point with camera at least as good as stock G2. What's the best sub$200 phone on Verizon?
Your best bet is CM13 with lambda kernel
Much better performance and battery life but camera quality is a little ****ty to be honest but it's alright
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Worth having a LG G2 (D802) for a 16gb Lg Nexus 5x 16gb? 5x already are aware that the processor Snapdragon 808, a new gpu Adreno I do not remember the model name and fingerprint reader, but what about the battery life, fluidity, etc. how's 5x?
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Nah, stay with nexus 5x . It runs official M and better in performance comparing to lg g2. Only thing that sucks is battery life on 5x.
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Nah, stay with nexus 5x . It runs official M and better in performance comparing to lg g2. Only thing that sucks is battery life on 5x.
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Thats lame. Because it runs M its good?
The last major update from Google is still the upgrade from jellybean to kitkat. Everything after kitkat has been small modifications. Security has been upped thats about it but still patches can be applied to older versions. And Doze? Get outta here, all marketing stunts. M, N, all the same bullsh*t.
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Thats lame. Because it runs M its good?
The last major update from Google is still the upgrade from jellybean to kitkat. Everything after kitkat has been small modifications. Security has been upped thats about it but still patches can be applied to older versions. And Doze? Get outta here, all marketing stunts. M, N, all the same bullsh*t.
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Not only software, the specs on the google device is better than the g2.
But since you asked, the android lollipop version that came for the g2 ( 5.0.2) has issues which has been fixed on (5.1.1) and later but lg haven't provided any further updates ( not sure about the d802 since i won the vzw variant). One of the bug is the memory leak which is fixed on next lollipop ( 5.1.1) update. And stability and performance is far more better on android M than lollipop.
I got 5X now, used G2 more than 2 years. I can say it's not worth.
Hi, Guys!
I've been a massive tinkerer of phones since 2012, but since then, I have only been using flagships from yesteryears or Nexus.
Currently I am using Droid Turbo as my daily driver as it is personally is the better performer than Nexus 5x (Batt Life is extremely important to me).
Now I am looking to upgrade, and since prices of Oneplus 3 and LG G5 is roughly the same (G5 is actually cheaper here in PH)
I would like to know which one would you prefer.
I really am having a hard time deciding but I am narrowing it down to personal pro/con preferences
G5:
MicroSD slot - since my nexus 7 2013 is dying, I plan to consolidate all media to one phone and this is a big plus
Better Camera - The last great camera I had was Galaxy S5. Nexus 5x and Droid Turbo are just not fun to shoot with
Build / Bootloop Issue - I really really don't find G5 physically appealing add the fact that some units have bootloop issues
LG UI - I love stock
OnePlus 3:
Build - OnePlus looks fantastic to me
Stock Feel - Feels stock with non-obtrusive addition
Tinkerabilityl - OP has always been easy to tinker with
Non-Expandable Storage - The most glaring weakness of Op3 amdist 64GB Internal
LTE Connectivity - The Op3 available in PH are chinese version which do not have band 5 which could make the experience all the more frustrating. Philippines already has s**t networks with limited LTE support depending on where you live,
Further Notes:
As you can see, battery life is not mentioned since both has garnered mixed reviews. I also did not count Op3's camera as a con since it is a good performer.
Hope you guys can share your insights!
More power!
I am with OnePlus One and LG G4, and I've been thinking about upgrading to G5.
LG makes excellent smart phone camera, but the build quality has always been problematic.
So far we are having these issue on G5:
1/Bootloop
2/Screen Burn-in
3/GPS issue
If you prefer a reliable phone，OP3 is a better choice, but the 1080P AMO screen sucks.
I have both phones and I recommend the LG. I stopped tinkering and flashing roms. Oneplus is good for flashing new roms and do on not for anything else. My g5 doesn't bootloop or screen burn-in or gps issue. Camera, screen, sound extra sd card are the thing. Oneplus is an obscure experimental savvy phone
Well, my G5 (H850) is just perfect. Battery lasts about 5-6 hours SOT. GPS is also perfect.
I used to have OPO and @ItsNewDroid is right. You'll be flashing new ROMs almost every other day.
My vote goes for G5.
I'm using the H860 variant and so far no problems at all.
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I'm using the H860 variant and so far no problems at all.
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Norman3000 said:
Hi, Guys!
I've been a massive tinkerer of phones since 2012, but since then, I have only been using flagships from yesteryears or Nexus.
Currently I am using Droid Turbo as my daily driver as it is personally is the better performer than Nexus 5x (Batt Life is extremely important to me).
Now I am looking to upgrade, and since prices of Oneplus 3 and LG G5 is roughly the same (G5 is actually cheaper here in PH)
I would like to know which one would you prefer.
I really am having a hard time deciding but I am narrowing it down to personal pro/con preferences
G5:
MicroSD slot - since my nexus 7 2013 is dying, I plan to consolidate all media to one phone and this is a big plus
Better Camera - The last great camera I had was Galaxy S5. Nexus 5x and Droid Turbo are just not fun to shoot with
Build / Bootloop Issue - I really really don't find G5 physically appealing add the fact that some units have bootloop issues
LG UI - I love stock
OnePlus 3:
Build - OnePlus looks fantastic to me
Stock Feel - Feels stock with non-obtrusive addition
Tinkerabilityl - OP has always been easy to tinker with
Non-Expandable Storage - The most glaring weakness of Op3 amdist 64GB Internal
LTE Connectivity - The Op3 available in PH are chinese version which do not have band 5 which could make the experience all the more frustrating. Philippines already has s**t networks with limited LTE support depending on where you live,
Further Notes:
As you can see, battery life is not mentioned since both has garnered mixed reviews. I also did not count Op3's camera as a con since it is a good performer.
Hope you guys can share your insights!
More power!
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I Have the G5 for about 4 months now and the bottom line is just PERFECT no issues such as bootloops, burn in screen, GPS Performance is top notch aimply blazing fast i feel like this phone is pushing the boundaries of smartphones speed, my antutu score ia 147,356, The screen is the ideal size for the majority of people and the Display is stunning natural colors(not punchy like amoled which might seem strange but i don't prefer it), the build quality is great and i swear it feels like actual metal in addition to the VERY cold feeling every morning, camera is the best one
Verdict
Performance-Best among smartphones
Display-One of the best in the market
Camera-Main is magnificent and the wide is definitely not a gimmick
Hardware:- audio, fingerprint scanner and everything else is great
Battery-SOT 5 hours and 30 minutes on average
Easily the best smartphone ever
I had a dilemma berween S7 Egde and G5. Happy with my choice. I would have taken the S7 Edge if it offered a bit more in the camera department, but as it is...it's kinda limited. Oneplus offers really nothing better other than build quality and price. Oh and the cool volume switch. If I would buy a phone right now , it would be the V20.
Buy both OP3 and G5, first G5 if not satisfy go for OP3 I think, thanks
G5 for the win. Anyone change the battery every day? If yes how is the the bottom cover holding?any damage?
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Thanks for your input guys. I'm actually reading and watching G5 reviews. I'm now more inclined to get a G5 since LG also has a good update track record as of late
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I have both phones and I recommend the LG. I stopped tinkering and flashing roms. Oneplus is good for flashing new roms and do on not for anything else. My g5 doesn't bootloop or screen burn-in or gps issue. Camera, screen, sound extra sd card are the thing. Oneplus is an obscure experimental savvy phone
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Same here : Don't own an OP 3, but my G5 is perfect, simply. No GPS, screen, bootloop issues and a SOT over 4h everyday with LTE and BT always on, I'm happy.
Hello Guys. Currently I have a Galaxy S6, and I was planning on buying a new phone. I was thinking on getting an LG V10 or LG G5(I always had LG phones before, like G2, G3). I didn't get G4 because of lack of fingerprint(I love fingerprint) and some other stuff. So to make it short what do you think? Should I get LG V10 or G5? Thanks in advance
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Hello Guys. Currently I have a Galaxy S6, and I was planning on buying a new phone. I was thinking on getting an LG V10 or LG G5(I always had LG phones before, like G2, G3). I didn't get G4 because of lack of fingerprint(I love fingerprint) and some other stuff. So to make it short what do you think? Should I get LG V10 or G5? Thanks in advance
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from my experience and what you need, if you need speed for games and etc you should get G5...but, if you want a bigger device with amazing design and a second screen (wich for me is a must have) you should get the V10....is all about what you need and not what you want.
for the price i can grab the V10 or G5 today is almost at the same price (around 400-450) if was me i rather choose the G5 - i dont buy the G5 because is too small for my needs, and i came from a G Flex 2 with better SoC than my V10 and i like to have SD810 in V10 because will make it a beast more than already are...
i buy my V10 for 400 euros, the same i pay a year and half ago for my G3, i sold my G3 to buy the G Flex2 and sell my G Flex2 to buy my V10 and is so amazing phone, secons screen is really helpfull. the audio DAC is good enough if you have a good pair of headphones, the camera is full of extras...
- i dont know more to tell about the V10, because i use LG from almost 6 years, all my previous phones are LG and i love it so far i never have nothing to complain, ok, battery in some months will be worst, my V10 have almost 4 months with me and the battery dont last the same they last about a month ago, i try to do my best but isnt enough!
its with you, if you dont really care about size then go with G5 - or wait to buy V20 - if you have money to buy it, yeah, V20 is really a exelent device and you comming from a S6 is a well worth update. if you think go from S6 to V10 dont do it, dont worth it because S6 already is the same performance as V10 have, but i think V10 is lower, only thing V10 have over S6 is extras. if you think S6 to G5 is a yes because G5 is better than S6.
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from my experience and what you need, if you need speed for games and etc you should get G5...but, if you want a bigger device with amazing design and a second screen (wich for me is a must have) you should get the V10....is all about what you need and not what you want.
for the price i can grab the V10 or G5 today is almost at the same price (around 400-450) if was me i rather choose the G5 - i dont buy the G5 because is too small for my needs, and i came from a G Flex 2 with better SoC than my V10 and i like to have SD810 in V10 because will make it a beast more than already are...
i buy my V10 for 400 euros, the same i pay a year and half ago for my G3, i sold my G3 to buy the G Flex2 and sell my G Flex2 to buy my V10 and is so amazing phone, secons screen is really helpfull. the audio DAC is good enough if you have a good pair of headphones, the camera is full of extras...
- i dont know more to tell about the V10, because i use LG from almost 6 years, all my previous phones are LG and i love it so far i never have nothing to complain, ok, battery in some months will be worst, my V10 have almost 4 months with me and the battery dont last the same they last about a month ago, i try to do my best but isnt enough!
its with you, if you dont really care about size then go with G5 - or wait to buy V20 - if you have money to buy it, yeah, V20 is really a exelent device and you comming from a S6 is a well worth update. if you think go from S6 to V10 dont do it, dont worth it because S6 already is the same performance as V10 have, but i think V10 is lower, only thing V10 have over S6 is extras. if you think S6 to G5 is a yes because G5 is better than S6.
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I loved V20 but I don't think I have enough money to buy it. So that's why I was asking between these two. I was also considering Nexus 6P also(mainly because of development, custom roms and latest android update) but I am a little bit worried about it's camera, I don't know how it compares to LG G5 or S7
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I loved V20 but I don't think I have enough money to buy it. So that's why I was asking between these two. I was also considering Nexus 6P also(mainly because of development, custom roms and latest android update) but I am a little bit worried about it's camera, I don't know how it compares to LG G5 or S7
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G5 vs S7 vs 6P in specs G5 win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in features G5 win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in battery life 6P win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in camera G5 win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in audio 6P win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in screen 6P win
sure 6P is good too, i was confused between that too but i cant live withou IR Blaster and only G5 and V10 have them when i need to choose and so i go for V10 only because IR Blaster and bigger screen. anyway i already give you my comparison because i tested all those devices in stores and that is my conclusion. between G5 and 6P is really hard to choose, 6P is a amazing phone.
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G5 vs S7 vs 6P in specs G5 win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in features G5 win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in battery life 6P win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in camera G5 win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in audio 6P win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in screen 6P win
sure 6P is good too, i was confused between that too but i cant live withou IR Blaster and only G5 and V10 have them when i need to choose and so i go for V10 only because IR Blaster and bigger screen. anyway i already give you my comparison because i tested all those devices in stores and that is my conclusion. between G5 and 6P is really hard to choose, 6P is a amazing phone.
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s7 beats them in almost every way...
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s7 beats them in almost every way...
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LOL, men, what are you smoking?! ahahahah... S7 is a joke compared to 6P.
sun_is_shinning said:
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in specs G5 win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in features G5 win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in battery life 6P win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in camera G5 win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in audio 6P win
G5 vs S7 vs 6P in screen 6P win
sure 6P is good too, i was confused between that too but i cant live withou IR Blaster and only G5 and V10 have them when i need to choose and so i go for V10 only because IR Blaster and bigger screen. anyway i already give you my comparison because i tested all those devices in stores and that is my conclusion. between G5 and 6P is really hard to choose, 6P is a amazing phone.
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Thank you alot! Now I'm thinking between G5 and 6P. As I read some reviews 6P camera was okay it just tends to make photos a little bit darker than other smartphones. But on the other side there is alot of android development(like custom roms, plus the price will fall down more when Pixel devices will launch) Anyway I will wait for at least one other month until V20 and Pixel devices come out!
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LOL, men, what are you smoking?! ahahahah... S7 is a joke compared to 6P.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTtGTLR6BUo
Look closely on video recording, fast image transition etc...and pls don't tell me ''sound is better on 6p'' like that's matters...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTtGTLR6BUo
Look closely on video recording, fast image transition etc...and pls don't tell me ''sound is better on 6p'' like that's matters...
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i dont belive in that kind of comparisons because i have tested that phones in first person, more than one time, i know what i see and what i feel with those phones and for your information: yes the sound of 6P is better than S7 and G5, TOGHETER!!! the 6P have dual front facing stereo speakers, G5 is mono and S7 with that kind of water protection is the worst of all!
- people should stop saying sammy is better than every other phone because they arent, like apple because apple are junk, you overpay for cheap aluminium and pay for the brand only, like you buy a original Coke and a cheap imitation of Coke!!! Sammy only was good until S3, since S4 that time sammy only do the same thing and dont say sammy kill every phone in this year with Note7 iris scanner, thats a gimmick feature, A BIG GIMMICK, more than their ridiculous chinese battery!
Sammy isnt sign of quality those days, even Xiaomi, Huawei and OnePlus are doing better job than sammy!
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i dont belive in that kind of comparisons because i have tested that phones in first person, more than one time, i know what i see and what i feel with those phones and for your information: yes the sound of 6P is better than S7 and G5, TOGHETER!!! the 6P have dual front facing stereo speakers, G5 is mono and S7 with that kind of water protection is the worst of all!
- people should stop saying sammy is better than every other phone because they arent, like apple because apple are junk, you overpay for cheap aluminium and pay for the brand only, like you buy a original Coke and a cheap imitation of Coke!!! Sammy only was good until S3, since S4 that time sammy only do the same thing and dont say sammy kill every phone in this year with Note7 iris scanner, thats a gimmick feature, A BIG GIMMICK, more than their ridiculous chinese battery!
Sammy isnt sign of quality those days, even Xiaomi, Huawei and OnePlus are doing better job than sammy!
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Im using v10 atm...so I don't have s7...but s7 is most complete phone today...As I said 2 speakers means nothing...what, you put your phone on the table and listen music? pls...
All high end phones are fighting over one thing...camera...everything else is less important ...they are all fast, they won't lag etc.
It's just about camera and phone look...and atm s7 camera is the best...
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Im using v10 atm...so I don't have s7...but s7 is most complete phone today...As I said 2 speakers means nothing...what, you put your phone on the table and listen music? pls...
All high end phones are fighting over one thing...camera...everything else is less important ...they are all fast, they won't lag etc.
It's just about camera and phone look...and atm s7 camera is the best...
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at the moment nothing, i am pretty sure when V20 is out - they should went for sale tomorrow - they will be the best camera-phone in the market for sure! with the same manual controls like V10 and G5 dual camera setup will kill the S7 (if already not have die yet).
i have V10 too and i like it, not because performance but for overall feeling, design and camera features and for sure someday i will update to V20.
Ok so first off the G5 does not come with hifi dac. It is an add on module that you will have to find and pay for separately if you want that feature.
I have never had any lag playing games with my v10 so I can't speak for that. It's powerful enough for me.
One thing to note is that all LG phones are having some kind of soldering issue with the motherboards. So keep that in mind if you go with v10 or any LG phone. You don't want to buy a dud.
Last thing to keep in mind is that unless you go with TMobile version of v10 there is absolutely no developer support for this phone. Even if you do go TMobile the developer scene is next to nothing. If developer support is important to you keep this fact in mind.
lg v10 camera kills if you take steady pics...and manual controls are great...but auto mode is just ok...that's the part where s7 kicks in...I think that auto mode on v10 can be better but maybe we need some custom rom...until than...
About lags...I didn't have lags since note 2
Hi guys, I currently have a v30 and would like to upgrade. I can jump to any phone really, but I'm hoping for your opinions. My thoughts are a V40, G7, or Oneplus 6T.
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Hi guys, I currently have a v30 and would like to upgrade. I can jump to any phone really, but I'm hoping for your opinions. My thoughts are a V40, G7, or Oneplus 6T.
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Any OnePlus phone is a quite significant downgrade from what you have now.
* No headset jack
* no quad DAC (since no headset jack)
* no 1440p QHD - - only 1080p. I've had 1440p OLED since 2014. Why would I ever go back to something less?
* no IP68. (Actually, NO IP rating whatsoever. In 2018 this is ridiculous for an alleged top tier phone.)
* no Qi wireless charging (which I've had since 2012, and even Apple finally has on their phones).
* no microSD card slot
LG V30, G7, V40 has ALL those features, OnePlus 6T does NOT.
OnePlus is not a premium phone. They are not a top-tier phone, they are are a pretender.
LG V30, LG G7 or LG V40 are both better than stupid OnePlus, if you want to change phones for some reason. However I HATE the notch.
In my opinion V30 is still about the best phone out there -- especially if you throw in universal bootloader unlock and root. Has all those features above, and no notch.
Personally, I'm sticking with this phone for at least another year for when the notch craze dissipates.
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Oneplus is a downgrade from what you have now.
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Can you explain why? It would also be $10 a month less and no money down.
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Can you explain why? It would also be $10 a month less and no money down.
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I explained why.
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It would also be $10 a month less and no money down.
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And I can buy a new Kia for less than a new Honda/Toyota. (My Honda Accord has 300,000 miles on it.) A stale bun convenience store hot dog will cost less than a restaurant prime rib dinner. So what? What will I proud of, what will I remember?
You currently have a premium phone, arguably the BEST phone from 2017 (with Samsung Note 8 as close second).
If you didn't have a phone, desperately needed ANY phone, yeah go buy the OnePlus. And then get a better phone when you can. But with something like the V30 in hand, I would never trade it for a OnePlus.
So, I guess unless I go to the G7 or V40, I'd be downgrading?
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So, I guess unless I go to the G7 or V40, I'd be downgrading?
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Yes:
ChazzMatt said:
LG G7 or LG V40 are both better than stupid OnePlus, if you want to change phones for some reason. However I HATE the notch.
In my opinion V30 is still about the best phone out there, especially if you throw in universal bootloader unlock and root. Has all those features, and no notch.
Personally, I'm sticking with this phone for at least another year for when the notch craze dissipates.
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Hi guys, I currently have a v30 and would like to upgrade. I can jump to any phone really, but I'm hoping for your opinions. My thoughts are a V40, G7, or Oneplus 6T.
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1+ is a welfare phone with a high price tag.
Not sure why people even get this device. 1+ acts like it has flagship specs while not even ACTUALLY offering flagship specs.what? Top of the line chip and more RAM that amounts to diminishing returns. All you actually need is 3gb worth of RAM. It's not a damn PC. 1+ cuts all the wrong corners. Look at the res of their screens.
If you want all the pros and cons of 1+ I'll give it to you. Just know there is 10X more cons then pros.
I would grab a V40 or a Samsung. Both come with SD card slots. Samsung doesn't have a quad dac though.
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1+ is a welfare phone with a high price tag.
Not sure why people even get this device. 1+ acts like it has flagship specs while not even ACTUALLY offering flagship specs.what? Top of the line chip and more RAM that amounts to diminishing returns. All you actually need is 3gb worth of RAM. It's not a damn PC. 1+ cuts all the wrong corners. Look at the res of their screens.
If you want all the pros and cons of 1+ I'll give it to you. Just know there is 10X more cons then pros.
I would grab a V40 or a Samsung. Both come with SD card slots. Samsung doesn't have a quad dac though.
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Exactly. The OnePlus advertising motto is "Never Settle" -- yet that's EXACTLY what you are doing when you buy a OnePlus phone. You are settling for a phone with no premium features. Literally all it has is current Snapdragon and RAM. Plenty of phone have that PLUS MORE.
I want Qi wireless charging.
For me, that's the line in the sand.
I want 1440p.
I've had that since 2014, I"m not going back to lesser resolution. All top-tier Android phones have had that since late 2014. Motorola, Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, etc. And all Google Nexus/Pixel phones, starting with the 2014 Nexus 6. For OnePlus STILL NOT to have it in 2018 shows how amateurish they really are.
I want high IP rating.
My last phone (2014) was "water resistant", but all top-tier phones since 2017 have a high IP rating -- IP67 or IP68. Apple, Google, Motorola, Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, etc. For OnePlus NOT to have it shows how amateurish they really are.
I want headset jack.
I just do. Sure I can ALSO use wireless earbuds if I want -- all Android phones have Bluetooth -- but do NOT take that option away from me just because you want to save some money making my phone. Quad DAC is bonus.
I want microSD card.
I've had some phones without it (2011 Nexus, 2014 Moto Quark), but I prefer it.
OnePlus' advertising motto is just bunk designed to counter what you are thinking if you really compared features and specs to real premium phones. OnePlus is never going to offer anything better than Oppo, their parent company offers. Until Oppo has a 1440p phone or Qi wireless charging, OnePlus will not. So, they lie "never settle" -- when they have obviously settled themselves.
I'm thinking about going to an iphone Xr and keeping my v30 to play with.
Xblackberryuser said:
I'm thinking about going to an iphone Xr and keeping my v30 to play with.
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Because you are tired of the headset jack, quad DAC, 1440p QHD, microSD slot on your V30?
iPhone XR has 828p --just over half of 1440p. It's actually categorized at "720p", because until you reach "full HD" 1080p, it's only crossed the 720p HD threshold and is still in that territory. LOTS of "720p" monitors/devices are really over 720p, but are still called "720p" until they reach at least 1080p.
Here you go: LG V30 vs iPhone XR vs LG V35 - SPECS. The only thing wrong they have is the storage. V30+ has 128GB + microSD card, but I they don't have V30+ in the database.
The only thing Apple has over OnePlus is the IP rating and now Qi wireless charging. In the Android specs world, an Apple phone is almost mid-tier.
Nope, not at all. That's why I said "keeping the v30 to play with." The Xr would be my daily beater.
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1+ is a welfare phone with a high price tag.
Not sure why people even get this device. 1+ acts like it has flagship specs while not even ACTUALLY offering flagship specs.what? Top of the line chip and more RAM that amounts to diminishing returns. All you actually need is 3gb worth of RAM. It's not a damn PC. 1+ cuts all the wrong corners. Look at the res of their screens.
If you want all the pros and cons of 1+ I'll give it to you. Just know there is 10X more cons then pros.
I would grab a V40 or a Samsung. Both come with SD card slots. Samsung doesn't have a quad dac though.
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They want $200 up front to jump to the V40 or Samsung.
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Nope, not at all. That's why I said "keeping the v30 to play with." The Xr would be my daily beater.
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I guess I don't understand. My V30 phone is my daily phone. I also have ANOTHER V30 to play around with.
But my "best" phone is going to be the phone I use all the time. I'm never going to tell people "oh but you should see the phone I have back at home!"
I want the phone I have in hand to have the best specs. "oh, I can't watch that video until I get back home!"
I'm never going to have a lesser phones as my daily phone. Especially as one as locked down as iPhone.
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I guess I don't understand. My V30 phone is my daily phone. I also have ANOTHER V30 to play around with.
But my "best" phone is going to be the phone I use all the time. I'm never going to tell people "oh but you should see the phone I have back at home!"
I want the phone I have in hand to have the best specs. "oh, I can't watch that video until I get back home!"
I'm never going to have a lesser phones as my daily phone. Especially as one as locked down as iPhone.
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I agree with everything you said. Ordering another v30.
Agree with the replies ++. Why anyone would consider 1+ is beyond me.
I have been Samsung since 2011. SGS, S2, then all of the following on release date - S3, Note 2, Note 3, S6E+, S7E, S8+. One week with my v30 and delighted. Audio was my biggest consideration and this more than meets my needs. Everything else is a pleasant bonus. And very good.
I don't consider it a downgrade at all. And whatever happens, I'm never ever getting a [email protected][email protected]÷= notch on any device ever.
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1+ is a welfare phone with a high price tag.
Not sure why people even get this device. 1+ acts like it has flagship specs while not even ACTUALLY offering flagship specs.what? Top of the line chip and more RAM that amounts to diminishing returns. All you actually need is 3gb worth of RAM. It's not a damn PC. 1+ cuts all the wrong corners. Look at the res of their screens.
If you want all the pros and cons of 1+ I'll give it to you. Just know there is 10X more cons then pros.
I would grab a V40 or a Samsung. Both come with SD card slots. Samsung doesn't have a quad dac though.
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2018 Samsung Note 9 or Galaxy S9/S9+:
* does NOT have the notch
* has headset jack
* has current Snapdragon
* has 1440p OLED
* has Qi wireless charging
* has IP68 rating.
Any of those three would be preferable to OnePlus crap. You don't have quad DAC, but they're all better than OnePlus 6T.
I still prefer the late 2017 LG V30, as it's a better size than those - - but I would take them before OnePlus 6T.
I would even buy the 2018 LG V35 (similar to the G7, but no notch) and try to make it work for me before OnePlus. V35 is basically updated V30.
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They want $200 up front to jump to the V40 or Samsung.
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Because you're buying a real premium phone with either of those. However, come Christmas they'll probably have some better deals.
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2018 Samsung Note 9 or Galaxy S9/S9+:
* does NOT have the notch
* has headset jack
* has current Snapdragon
* has 1440p OLED
* has Qi wireless charging
* has IP68 rating.
Any of those three would be preferable to OnePlus crap. You don't have quad DAC, but they're all better than OnePlus 6T.
I still prefer the late 2017 LG V30, as it's a better size than those - - but I would take them before OnePlus 6T.
I would even buy the 2018 LG V35 (similar to the G7, but no notch) and try to make it work for me before OnePlus. V35 is basically updated V30.
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*Probably can't even root yet
*Likely will never have bootloader unlocked
You get what you pay for
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2018 Samsung Note 9 or Galaxy S9/S9+:
* does NOT have the notch
* has headset jack
* has current Snapdragon
* has 1440p OLED
* has Qi wireless charging
* has IP68 rating.
Any of those three would be preferable to OnePlus crap. You don't have quad DAC, but they're all better than OnePlus 6T.
I still prefer the late 2017 LG V30, as it's a better size than those - - but I would take them before OnePlus 6T.
I would even buy the 2018 LG V35 (similar to the G7, but no notch) and try to make it work for me before OnePlus. V35 is basically updated V30.
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*Probably can't even root yet
*Likely will never have bootloader unlocked
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If you mean the LG V35, yes. However, all the Samsungs I listed have root -- at least the Exynos versions do. Not that I am recommending any of the Samsungs over the V30. I'm just pointing out OTHER flagship phones that have more features than OnePlus.
I took most of a year to research what phone would replace my 2014 Moto Quark (Moto Maxx, the international version of the Droid Turbo, which had all the AT&T LTE bands). I deeply examined every flagship phone coming out in 2017. V30 wasn't even on my list when I started, because I wasn't enamored of the V line. I wanted LG to make an LG G6, as good as they made the LG G2, and LG G3 before they went off the rails. But LG failed with the 2017 LG G6 by implementing an idiotic regionalized specs scheme -- where no LG G6 would get ALL the listed specs, plus they were using 2016 Snapdragon. The V30 then ended up being what the LG G6 should have been and was the perfect phone for me.
Part of the inherent problem with Original Poster is he seems to only be looking for T-mobile phones and he's buying on contract. I've NEVER bought on contract and the last phones I bought from a carrier were 2010/2011. Since then, I've bought straight from Google, imported from other countries, bought from OEM. I've been on AT&T since 2012 but never have owned an AT&T-branded phone.
The V30 has only been out a year, and right now I don't see anything better out there. I kept my 2014 Moto Quark for three years for the same reason. And there are Droid Turbo (Moto Quark) users in here who can back me up on that. In 2014 it was a beast of a machine (3GB RAM, 1440p OLED, 3900 mAh battery, 21MP camera, Qi wireless charging, etc), and only by 2017 when Snapdragon 835 came along, plus fingerprint sensors, plus IP ratings was there phones "good enough" to replace the Moto Quark (Droid Turbo, Moto Turbo, Moto Maxx).
But I didn't want to lose any hardware features I already had. Headset jack, 1440p OLED, Qi wireless charging, etc. The V30 has all that and more -- including microSD card. Plus of course bootloader unlock and root. Which is why I bought the B&H Photo "open market" that was supposedly guaranteed that, instead of any carrier model that would not. Yes, we now have WTF bootloader unlock and root, but we didn't have that when I bought mine.
Since I've had my v30, I honestly haven't had any reason to root it. What are you guys obtaining from rooting?
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I changed to the V30+ from my Droid Turbo after ChazzMatt had a thought where he would go to after the Droid Turbo got old. The V30 was a great choice even we knew LG is real crap with system updates.
I have the V30+ almost for two years and had several thought to change it in the last half a year. I'm on rooted stock oreo. I'm not a heavy user, but battery time is getting on my nerves by now.
I did all that is possible with the stock system. I see that some has 5-6hrs os SOT with limiting frequencies, using the lowest light settings all day, and who knows what other mods with cutting functions.
Nope, I don't make compromises. I did not buy a premium phone to cut back frequencies, to try to read the low light screen in bright sun... I did all the optimal settings, but screen time is around 3hrs in a day use.
Deepsleep was always a high consumer. 3-4% per hr with all the non-used apps turned off. My Mi5 does this with 0.3%, and my DroidTrubo also does that.
So my question where to go from the V30+?
I've been looking the LG V50 for quite a while, but my fear is, that staying on the LG-train means the same ****ty system updates, badly optimized battery management... and absolutely no developer background, no root.
I'm fine with the factory system as I need all cameras, so probably would survive that I can not root.
I went all other possibilities, and there is no other choice but the Samsung S10+, if you need water resistance and sturdiness. Everything votes for the Samsung, but build quality.
Same cameras, more RAM, same battery, smaller size... can be rooted, has decent developer background.
I had Samsung before and swore not to get one again. But there is no other choice.
What do you think everybody? @ChazzMatt, I really would like to know your thoughts also...
Thanks for all the useful comments!
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I changed to the V30+ from my Droid Turbo after ChazzMatt had a thought where he would go to after the Droid Turbo got old. The V30 was a great choice even we knew LG is real crap with system updates.
I have the V30+ almost for two years and had several thought to change it in the last half a year. I'm on rooted stock oreo. I'm not a heavy user, but battery time is getting on my nerves by now.
I did all that is possible with the stock system. I see that some has 5-6hrs os SOT with limiting frequencies, using the lowest light settings all day, and who knows what other mods with cutting functions.
Nope, I don't make compromises. I did not buy a premium phone to cut back frequencies, to try to read the low light screen in bright sun... I did all the optimal settings, but screen time is around 3hrs in a day use.
Deepsleep was always a high consumer. 3-4% per hr with all the non-used apps turned off. My Mi5 does this with 0.3%, and my DroidTrubo also does that.
So my question where to go from the V30+?
I've been looking the LG V50 for quite a while, but my fear is, that staying on the LG-train means the same ****ty system updates, badly optimized battery management... and absolutely no developer background, no root.
I'm fine with the factory system as I need all cameras, so probably would survive that I can not root.
I went all other possibilities, and there is no other choice but the Samsung S10+, if you need water resistance and sturdiness. Everything votes for the Samsung, but build quality.
Same cameras, more RAM, same battery, smaller size... can be rooted, has decent developer background.
I had Samsung before and swore not to get one again. But there is no other choice.
What do you think everybody? @ChazzMatt, I really would like to know your thoughts also...
Thanks for all the useful comments!
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I'm afraid I am going to have give up root to keep top tier specs (headset jack, Qi wireless charging, QHD 1440p display).
If not LG V50, then yes Galaxy S10 (6.1") or S10+ (6.4"). Here are specs comparing all three phones. I'm not a Samsung fan either, but I'll consider them because that series still had headset jack. (The "all three" comparisons only show up on computer screen, not app screen.)
Right now LG is on some strange LSD trip, where they are reverting back to 1080p, using mid-range Snapdragon, and trying to force us to use multiple displays.
I have a mint LG V35 ready for my wife to use, but she isn't rooted anyway. No notch, 6GB RAM, basically a V40 in a V30 case. THAT was how LG should have continued.
ChazzMatt said:
I'm afraid I am going to have give up root to keep top tier specs (headset jack, Qi wireless charging, QHD 1440p display).
If not LG V50, then yes Galaxy S10 (6.1") or S10+ (6.4"). Here are specs comparing all three phones. I'm not a Samsung fan either, but I'll consider them because that series still had headset jack.
Right now LG is on some strange LSD trip, where they are reverting back to 1080p, using mid-range Snapdragon, and trying to force us to use multiple displays.
I have a mint LG V35 ready for my wife to use, but she isn't rooted anyway. No notch, 6GB RAM, basically a V40 in a V30 case. THAT was how LG should have continued.
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When you decide to move on to another phone, please let us know.
I'll be right behind you.
Sony just announced a new flagship that looks interesting. It has most of the same features we loved in the V30, more memory, and the latest processor. Software support couldn't be worse than LG. Seriously, except for the anemic battery, my wife's XZ2c has been great. It was purchased from BHPhoto the same day as my V30S and has received regular updates including A10 months ago.
Thoughts?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...50-flagship-smartphone-with-a-headphone-jack/
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Sony just announced a new flagship that looks interesting. It has most of the same features we loved in the V30, more memory, and the latest processor. Software support couldn't be worse than LG. Seriously, except for the anemic battery, my wife's XZ2c has been great. It was purchased from BHPhoto the same day as my V30S and has received regular updates including A10 months ago.
Thoughts?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...50-flagship-smartphone-with-a-headphone-jack/
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1080p. I'm not downgrading. All my phones since 2014 have had 1440p. Why can't they give me QHD 1440p AND headset jack?
But the rest of the specs sound fantastic.
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Sony just announced a new flagship that looks interesting. It has most of the same features we loved in the V30, more memory, and the latest processor. Software support couldn't be worse than LG. Seriously, except for the anemic battery, my wife's XZ2c has been great. It was purchased from BHPhoto the same day as my V30S and has received regular updates including A10 months ago.
Thoughts?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...50-flagship-smartphone-with-a-headphone-jack/
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$950 = me sticking with my V30
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1080p. I'm not downgrading. Why can't they give my 1440p AND headset jack?
But the rest of the specs sound fantastic.
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There's also no wireless charging on that one afaik
I heard samsung was considering bringing back headphone jack with next S series phone, let's see how that goes
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There's also no wireless charging on that one afaik
I heard samsung was considering bringing back headphone jack with next S series phone, let's see how that goes
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Like the 2019 Galaxy S10 (6.1")/S10+ (6.4") -- both of which have QHD 1440p, Qi wireless charging, IP68 and headset jack. Plus stereo speakers. The S10+ has a 4100 mAh battery.
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9535&idPhone2=9536&idPhone3=9607
If Samsung adds headset jack back for 2021 and later, I'll be OK.
Qi wireless charging, QHD 1440p, even headset jack are "lines in the sand" for me I will not cross (do without). My 2014 Moto Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo) had all three. When I found the V30 in 2017 during a year long search to replace my phone, those were the attributes a new phone for me and my wife needed.
At the time only Samsung and LG were still doing Qi wireless charging. Even Google had given it up, even though they pioneered it with their Nexus phones (20012 Nexus 4, 2013 Nexus 5, 2014 Nexus 6). But then Apple started doing Qi wireless charging and Google then added it back because their Pixel team worships Apple. If Google had kept it the whole time, they would have gotten credit for being the trend setter.
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Like the 2019 Galaxy S10 (6.1")/S10+ (6.4") -- both of which have QHD 1440p, Qi wireless charging, IP68 and headset jack. Plus stereo speakers. The S10+ has a 4100 mAh battery.
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9535&idPhone2=9536&idPhone3=9607
If Samsung adds headset jack back for 2021 and later, I'll be OK.
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Yeah Snapdragon S10 is still a good option and ticks most of the boxes
Sadly we've only the Exynos variant of s10 here
ChazzMatt said:
Like the 2019 Galaxy S10 (6.1")/S10+ (6.4") -- both of which have QHD 1440p, Qi wireless charging, IP68 and headset jack. Plus stereo speakers. The S10+ has a 4100 mAh battery.
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9535&idPhone2=9536&idPhone3=9607
If Samsung adds headset jack back for 2021 and later, I'll be OK.
Qi wireless charging, QHD 1440p, even headset jack are "lines in the sand" for me I will not cross (do without). My 2014 Moto Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo) had all three. When I found the V30 in 2017 during a year long search to replace my phone, those were the attributes a new phone needed.
At the time only Samsung and LG were still doing Qi wireless charging. Even Google had given it up, even though they pioneered it with their Nexus phones (20012 Nexus 4, 2013 Nexus 5, 2014 Nexus 6). But then Apple started doing Qi wireless charging and Google then added it back because their Pixel team worships Apple.
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I agree with your lines in the sand except for the 1440p, that doesn't matter to me. My only question is whether the S10 or the V50 are boot unlockable?
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I agree with your lines in the sand except for the 1440p, that doesn't matter to me. My only question is whether the S10 or the V50 are boot unlockable?
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I haven't kept up so much with the Samsung variants, but as far as I know for the LG V50 only the Europe variant (LMV500EM) has true bootloader unlock through the official LG unlock code. Our V30 LOS dev also is dev for V40 and V50 and he owns one. And by "true", I mean permanent. There's a temp root method for other V50 variants, but it's lost every time you reboot. The last time I looked on eBay for V50, I couldn't find any Europe variants, only "carrier unlocked" Sprint variant. (Hint for others: if the eBay listing says "unlocked" they are usually talking about SIM card unlock/network unlock, not bootloader unlock.)
However, while I have bought "international" phones in the past, I'm wary right now with the coming U.S. carrier VoLTE lockdown. By 2022 on AT&T I'll need a phone/firmware that gives me AT&T VoLTE. Verizon and T-mobile users will need it by the end of this year. That topic discussed here:
All U.S. V30/V3O+/V30S will need stock firmware, not LOS-based custom ROMs. When?
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I agree with your lines in the sand except for the 1440p, that doesn't matter to me. My only question is whether the S10 or the V50 are boot unlockable?
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Some V50 have temp root, you could check about it on v50 xda
S10 exynos has good development, not sure about the snapdragon variant though
Best thing to do would be to visit the xda sub-forum for each device and see how everything is
tech_infinity said:
Some V50 have temp root, you could check about it on v50 xda
S10 exynos has good development, not sure about the snapdragon variant though
Best thing to do would be to visit the xda sub-forum for each device and see how everything is
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I've never heard of temp root but it sounds awful. I didn't want to research new phones after finally getting the V30 the way I wanted it. I'll just wait for Chazzmatt to upgrade, then I'll copy him!
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I've never heard of temp root but it sounds awful. I didn't want to research new phones after finally getting the V30 the way I wanted it. I'll just wait for Chazzmatt to upgrade, then I'll copy him!
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Yeah, this part:
By virtue of being a “temp root” method, root access will be lost as soon as you reboot your phone. Moreover, Android Verified Boot 2.0 may kick in and brick your phone if you try to make permanent changes to protected partitions such as boot, system, and vendor without an unlocked bootloader. That being said, the exploit is currently available in its compiled form, while the developer will soon release the source code. The executable should be invoked from a regular ADB shell or a terminal emulator, and it should show the following message after successful privilege escalation.
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On the old Motorola Droid Turbo, towards the end of development after Motorola tried to patch the Sunshine exploit, a one-time temp root was necessary for Sunshine to run to unlock the bootloader. But this is different. It's a continual cycle of "temp root", which you have to implement every time you reboot the phone.
For the S10/S10+ only the Exynos and Hong Kong Snapdragon variants can be bootloader unlocked and rooted, to my knowledge. For Hong Kong, it uses Snapdragon and Samsung puts easy bootloader unlock switch like with older T-mobile phones. But U.S. Snapdragon variants are hard locked down due to carrier demands. Exynos chips are used in other parts of the world and have bootloader unlock.
This thread claims you can get a U.S. S10+ bootloader unlocked and with TWRP installed from Chinese hacker.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/g975u-discussion-root-bl-unlock-t3929385/page23
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The forum user here Moriatier supposedly has a U.S. Galaxy S10 that is rooted and twrp installed. He said some hacker guy in China did it. Not sure how legit or true this is, but he claims he has root with twrp.
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But other than that, seems impossible for regular people.
XDA article from this weekend indicates that Snapdragon s10 can be bootloader unlocked.
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra-root-us-unlocked-snapdragon-865/
That link is for the galaxy note 20 ultra. 1 or 2 US phones can be rooted like the sprint S10 5G version. The S10 line is mainly locked down. The S9 just got root a few months ago.
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That link is for the galaxy note 20 ultra. 1 or 2 US phones can be rooted like the sprint S10 5G version. The S10 line is mainly locked down. The S9 just got root a few months ago.
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If you read the article, it states that it is also for other models, which it lists the S10 as one.
Well holy crap! Someone leaked a Samsung tool that unlocks the bootloader, nice! $150 though...
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If you read the article, it states that it is also for other models, which it lists the S10 as one.
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I think you'll find ~1 person on XDA willing to pay for BL unlock.
mac62 said:
If you read the article, it states that it is also for other models, which it lists the S10 as one.
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Interesting. But $150?
Magisk Hide is still letting SafetyNet pass, so things like Google Pay work without issue. I can (and have) installed Magisk modules without any issues, and now I’ve got the experience I wanted, with full US compatibility and a proper warranty.
Interestingly, this isn’t even an exploit. The root process makes use of internal Samsung tools.
It’s also not free. I paid quite a bit to unlock my phone. Not $550-$700-worth, but still a good chunk of change. But for me, it was worth it. Now my phone is my phone, and since Samsung has a bootloader unlockable variant that uses the same Snapdragon 865+, I have access to plenty of development work. Again, though, it’s not free, and you’ll be paying up to $150 to get a bootloader unlock. Compatibility is also currently limited to the Galaxy S10, Galaxy S20, Galaxy Note 10, and Galaxy Note 20 series.
If, for whatever reason, you’re interested in this, I’ve put together a super simple Android app that answers a lot of questions about the process, and then allows you to request your own unlock. Check it out on XDA Labs. The app itself is free, so there’s no investment for investigation besides your time. You can proceed if you are still comfortable.
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