Hello.
I wonder if anyone who has the Tab S7 / S7+ can answer these.
Does the Galaxy Tab S7 have Ant+?
The Samsung UK site specifically states that the Tab S7 doesn't have Ant+, but the Tab S6 does. Googling brings up a posts saying the Tab S6 didn't at launch, but it was added later.
Is it likely they will add it later to the S7 as well? Has a firmware update already added it but Samsung haven't updated their site?
Doe the Galaxy Tab S7 have AptX?
The Samsung UK site only mentions the Tab S7 having Bluetooth 5.0, and a list of profiles, but no mention of what Codecs are supported.
It would be odd if it didn't have AptX, but it's also odd if it does that they don't mention which.
If it does have AptX, which versions?
Has anyone on here with a Tab S7 / S7+ tried connecting it to a Smart Trainer with Ant+ or Bluetooth Headset / DAC to see what's supported?
Thanks.
r3sonant said:
Hello.
I wonder if anyone who has the Tab S7 / S7+ can answer these.
Does the Galaxy Tab S7 have Ant+?
The Samsung UK site specifically states that the Tab S7 doesn't have Ant+, but the Tab S6 does. Googling brings up a posts saying the Tab S6 didn't at launch, but it was added later.
Is it likely they will add it later to the S7 as well? Has a firmware update already added it but Samsung haven't updated their site?
Doe the Galaxy Tab S7 have AptX?
The Samsung UK site only mentions the Tab S7 having Bluetooth 5.0, and a list of profiles, but no mention of what Codecs are supported.
It would be odd if it didn't have AptX, but it's also odd if it does that they don't mention which.
If it does have AptX, which versions?
Has anyone on here with a Tab S7 / S7+ tried connecting it to a Smart Trainer with Ant+ or Bluetooth Headset / DAC to see what's supported?
Thanks.
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Please don't hate me with my answer, I will have the device in two more days and can answer (if someone else doesn't answer first), but if you headphones supports LDAC, you may use that.
All LDAC codecs (330/660/990) are inside Android Core, LDAC is opensource (encoder only) and Sony only bills headphones manufacturers for a license.
Qualcomm AptX/HD in other hands, bills the encoder and decoder, so both headphone and receiver must pay a fee to support it.
WalterCool said:
Please don't hate me with my answer, I will have the device in two more days and can answer (if someone else doesn't answer first), but if you headphones supports LDAC, you may use that.
All LDAC codecs (330/660/990) are inside Android Core, LDAC is opensource (encoder only) and Sony only bills headphones manufacturers for a license.
Qualcomm AptX/HD in other hands, bills the encoder and decoder, so both headphone and receiver must pay a fee to support it.
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Thank you for the reply.
Mine is meant to arrive tomorrow (I thought it must have the codecs so ordered one anyway).
As for Ant+, I can always get a dongle if it doesn't support it.
OK just got the device, and supports AptX
WalterCool said:
OK just got the device, and supports AptX
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Brilliant.
Thanks for the update.
Just for info: Tab S7 doesn't seem to support ANT+ at the moment.
WalterCool said:
OK just got the device, and supports AptX
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how did you find out?
One option is to enable Developer options and check for blue tooth codec.
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Guess my JBL charge 4 is not a aptx.
also audio sample rate and audio bits per sample highest rate is actually high fi.
16 and 44 is quite damn low I bet that sounds like crap.
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also audio sample rate and audio bits per sample highest rate is actually high fi.
16 and 44 is quite damn low I bet that sounds like crap.
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Every streaming service out there uses16/44. Spotify, Apple, etc...
Most 16bit recordings are actually recorded as 24bit and then converted down. Sound quality is better than a pure 16bit recording.
Hitti2 said:
also audio sample rate and audio bits per sample highest rate is actually high fi.
16 and 44 is quite damn low I bet that sounds like crap.
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Other options are disabled for me. I guess my BT earphone supports only the selected quality.
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Every streaming service out there uses16/44. Spotify, Apple, etc...
Most 16bit recordings are actually recorded as 24bit and then converted down. Sound quality is better than a pure 16bit recording.
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hi fi is 24 and even better is 32. those high rates makes good sound, hi-fi.
bluetooth wont ever be hifi.
Hitti2 said:
hi fi is 24 and even better is 32. those high rates makes good sound, hi-fi.
bluetooth wont ever be hifi.
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Most people lack the playback equipment, let alone the hearing, to discern any differences above 24bit.
My digital studio can do 24bit/192kHz recordings, but it's largely a waste of disk space to record at those levels.
I record 24/48 and then down sample to 16/44 (aka CD quality).
Most people have crap for speakers/headphones. Anyone who thinks AirPods or Beats Pro are the best headphones have never owned a pair of studio reference headphones.
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Guess my JBL charge 4 is not a aptx.
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Sorry to hear that, but seems like it isn't. I have several headphones with me for different purposes (airbuds/earphones/headphones/etc), and that's how I tested it.
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The galaxy Tab s7 2020 DOES NOT support any Bluetooth codec other than SBC . The 2018 version supported lots of codecs. Yet another failure of the 2020 model (along with not being able to move apps onto the sd card)
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The galaxy Tab s7 2020 DOES NOT support any Bluetooth codec other than SBC . The 2018 version supported lots of codecs. Yet another failure of the 2020 model (along with not being able to move apps onto the sd card)
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yea samsung. S10+ and tab s7+ is my last samsung devices and i will wait for the perfect device to comeout, big screen, dual "preferably " SD card slot support upto 5TB each, boot unlock without hassle or paying a 3rd party "unsamlock", headphone jack, C-port, FM/AM radio, all codecs. +more that i cannot think of. " The perfect device"
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Beelink/ROOFULL UBOX S812 ANDROID TV BOX
I am taking a long and pretty hard look at the latest generation of what is colloquially termed as TV Sticks AKA Smart Media Players. Before we get there, lets take a short history lesson to put us all in perspective.
TV STICK EVOLUTION -
The first generation pretty much consisted of devices based either around Arm Cortex-A9 or Amlogic's A9 processor. Those were single core and started typically with Android ICS (4.0.4) @1 GHz. They carried a small form factor, typically looking like a slightly larger USB drive. Tronsmart and Favi are among many some or little known manufacturers. Connectivity wise these typically only had Wireless connection and sometimes Bluetooth.
Then came second generation from the same manufacturers. Those are typically dual core devices with Cortex-A9 Dual core @1.5 GHz. Bluetooth is more common among these devices and so is RJ45 LAN Connector port. However this is led to a slightly larger form factor. MK808 based on Rocketchip RK3066 is one of the more popular in this class. Although I personally bracket the Chromecast into this category, I am very well aware, it does not run on Android and is more of a DLNA Client without original setup.
The 3rd generation has been introduced in last year or two. Those devices seriously focused on media delivery and hardware acceleration. In order to deliver home theatre experience, these devices focused HDMI 1080p Video and possibly DTS or Dolby surround sound. So you'd find hardware decoders plenty with these devices. Also in addition, serious effort is being put into GPU arena with bigger and better GPUs appearing as compared to the traditional phones and tablets with their tiny screens. Now these devices have fairly bigger canvas (as big as your tv), so a monster-house of a GPU is a distinct possibility.
However, more manufacturers and makers started to tap into this niche area and you will see an explosion of devices into this arena. Primary Processors, you are likely to see here are from Amlogic, Intel, Arm and Rockchip. However Arm Cortex A9 being a Juggernaut, Intel has decided to exit from this scene. So in short, we are seeing a multitude of devices now with each trying to find its own niche. They have taken different directions and the fact that there are quiet a few unbranded devices out there, our choice or decision for the right device has just become wholly complicated. Some of the good examples of 3rd generation are Minix X8H, Tronsmart Vega S89 and U Box S812, the device of this review.
DISCLAIMER - I want to clear some things up front. I was approached and offered this device for review. This was due in part to my work with the JASS Rom.
Since I follow XDA Code of Conduct, I have made every effort to provide honest, impartial and non-judgemental review of the device at hand. As you might imagine, I have done significant research into the field of Android TV sticks. And my intention is to combine review of the device with a review of this category of devices in general.
This Review is going to focus on Beelink UBox S812 4K device. There are quiet a few names for this device depending on which retailer/reseller you are looking at. However, the one I will be reviewing here looks like the picture in OP. The Package as I received was fairly compact. Came via DHL unlike Hongkong Post Office.
Packaging as shipped -
The packaging was pretty nice and the unit comes in a nice little package.
This actually turned out to be box within a box. Here is an actual side view for reference,
So the inner box is,
Inside this box happens to be the actual unit.
First Impressions -
It appears like you have all the necessary basics included in the package. Here's what we have.
The device has predictably larger form factor than the first generation Android Sticks. Its reminds me of Roku's form factor. It is understandable that the device is larger now with so many connectivity options as well as more powerful processor. Comparing to its predecessor, the UBOX S805 MXIII, you can see the form factors are fairly identical. The IR sensor for the remote is still up front. However, this time the blue/red power led is moved to be next to the IR Sensor and the power button is gone.
There are a set of connectivity options along the back with Power and HDMI(1080p) being Key features. There is RJ/45 to compliment Wireless Support for A/B/G/N. There is also A/V out as well as S/PDIF out as well for those who are interested. Along the right edge, we have additional ports. Those are USB OTG, two full size USB and one MicroSD slot. Giving ample choices for extended storage options. The two USB slots are particularly appreciated as one is likely taken by external device connectivity (Joystick/mouse/trackpad) leaving the other for USB Drives. Of course there's Bluetooth 4.0 as well so you can easily connect that way for peripherals. The S812 does come with a remote, which is not only intuitive, but also pretty handy and easy to use. Although I have a Favi Wireless Keyboard with track pad, I found myself relying more on the included remote.
Hardware and Software configuration -
The device runs of Android Kitkat 4.4.1 and it appears to be fairly Stock version with minimal bloat. There are some preinstalled apps that offer you access to Movies and apps and then there's Kodi. The unit I received has 1 GB Ram with 8 GB internal storage. There is a choice of getting 2GB Ram and 16 GB internal storage as well.
HARDWARE -
CPU: Amlogic S812 Quad Core 2.0 GHz
RAM: 1GB or 2GB option.
GPU: Mali-450 Storage: 8GB or 16GB
External Storage: Up to 32G via MicroSD.
Interface: Micro USB, OTG, HDMI, AV, RJ45,
WiFi: IEEE 802.11 b/g/n (2.5 Ghz only)
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0
Hardware Decoders : H.265/AVC
Video Format: MKV, MPEG, RM, AVI, MVC, MP4, DAT, WMV, MPG
Audio Format: OGG, FLAC, MP3, RM, WMA, AAC, WAV
Photo Format: JPG
Power Supply: External Adapter with Dual support 110v/230v and 50 Hz/60 Hz
Other Features: Support Miracast / DLNA
In Depth Look -
Once Powered on, the S812 took approximately 10 to 12 seconds to go through the boot animation and present me with this home screen.
Of course they have a custom Launcher. Kind of looked like Windoz 8 home screen to me. Didn't like it very much for the convoluted way to add favourite apps to this screen. I am sure some might like it. Possibly its convenient to choose app with the included remote.
I didn't like it in SmartStick where I had included Apex Launcher in my Rom. Since I didn't like it, here in this case, I went poking under settings. Thankfully they had left Kitkat stock launcher alone and in the firmware. So I got this screen instead, which is an improvement.
I did change the wallpaper and add the Clock to the screen, but you get the idea. (So Kodi's included from the beginning ? That's nice.) Thank God for the Screenshot button! Also notice the Power Button. Let's take a look at what else we have here, hoping not much bloat.
Yeah not much bloat. There was one game in there for Catch Fish. I removed it before taking screenshot. Antutu and ES File Explorer are my additions. So next up, check to see if it is rooted or needs rooting. If my experience with other devices, is any indication, it would be pre-rooted. So I checked and yes it is! I had to install SuperSU, since the binary was old and there wasn't a gatekeeper. I had pushed the 2 Screenshot apps for this review. I guess redundant now. I had let my netflix account expire, so included app is of no use to me. But it will be handy to others.
PERFORMANCE -
I do however have Amazon Prime and played a movie from there. Apart from initial buffering, which is Amazon's doing, I did not have any interruptions whatsoever. I played the movie 1080p Full HD. No issues. It did support Dolby as well as DTS. So, that piece works as advertised. As I said, I removed the one game app and am not going to be playing any games on here. So Can't speak to that. You can see the Youtube video I have included bellow for that.
I did run AnTuTu Benchmark. Mixed bag of results.
Hmm. Not too bad. Here's how it stacks up to other Comparable devices.
Notice it says Unverified. Per AnTuTu's Clarification, that indicates some tweaking by manufacturer to beat AnTuTu's benchmarking tools. So take it with a pinch of salt.
Under the hood tweaking -
So me being me, and that the audience is android savvy, I did what any of us do. Went looking at what kernel is supporting that can boost the actual performance even better. Say hello to [APP][ROOT] Trickster MOD [Kernel Settings]!
Looking under the hood, I see that the kernel supports, two TCP/IP Compression Algorithms, Cubic and Reno. Of these, cubic a default. That's a decent choice too. I found, that the buffering if any was reduced with cubic over WiFi. This factor is particularly important that with Full HD streaming, you have to have best network throughput or you will see buffering. Although cubic was better for me, your mileage may very.
As far as Governors and Schedulers are concerned, there are two choices for scheduler, cfq and Row. Cfq is default. For governers, we have more choices, HotPlug, Ondemand and Performance. I found that performance governor was bit unstable and the S812 kept shutting down intermittently. Ondemand on the other hand, increased the overall AnTuTu score. So I'd stick with it. Although it is possible to use any of these governors for the GPU as well, I personally don't prefer to do it. Since we are not trying to save battery here, I don't even want to talk about undervolting.
Oh and if you are looking for a refresher or a crash course on these governor names and scheduler names, then look at the Overclock and undervolt link in my signature for reference.
Other Items Of Interest -
It seems that there is flashable firmware to be found here with Flash Tool to be had here. I can mirror those google host links myself as well.
Custom Rom Development -
My search for the Source continues. Bee-Link ignored my email.
Video Review -
The following is not mine but with the myrid confusion of devices, I wanted to point out that it comes fairly close. Do understand that the case is different in this case. We don't have the Full SD card slot on the side but have usb ports and microsd slot as discussed above. But gives pretty good idea otherwise. The video is in Spanish but youtube can translate English subtitles.
Thank you for the review. The illusion on the box is so funny :laugh:.
Could it passthrough DTS or Dolby surround sound to receiver?
My Review is still in progress. I will be finishing it in a day or two. To answer your question, yes certainly possible to pass the sound. I'd recommend to do so out of your TV as much as possible.
Here's my device! (Ubox S812 2GB / 8GB version)
This is not Beelink MXIII Plus?
114K4 was installed at the factory. I had hoped to arrive in 4.4.4, but it is at least 4.4.2.
I upgraded the 116K4, but still stutters sometimes bounces sound (HDMI output). I was hoping to help you, but not. There is a new firmware for the device?
A few more questions:
- What alternative Launcher you recommend it?
- Xbox 360 Controller (USB) is used by someone? Native mode works simulators and fps, other games do not. App was not found him. ;(
Thank you!
tomimidi said:
Here's my device! (Ubox S812 2GB / 8GB version)
This is not Beelink MXIII Plus?
114K4 was installed at the factory. I had hoped to arrive in 4.4.4, but it is at least 4.4.2.
I upgraded the 116K4, but still stutters sometimes bounces sound (HDMI output). I was hoping to help you, but not. There is a new firmware for the device?
A few more questions:
- What alternative Launcher you recommend it?
- Xbox 360 Controller (USB) is used by someone? Native mode and unfortunately FPS simulator works. App was not found him.
Thank you!
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I have linked the firmware I have. Not sure if that's what you have. This device IS NOT MXIII Plus. What was the type of media you were playing when sound stuttered ?
I haven't used XBOX Controller. But it should be possible to use.
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I have linked the firmware I have. Not sure if that's what you have. This device IS NOT MXIII Plus. What was the type of media you were playing when sound stuttered ?
I haven't used XBOX Controller. But it should be possible to use.
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But all the same parameter as MXIII plus. The PCB should MXIII about the photo. I think it is NetXeon.
Xbox 360 controller can be used, but only with that support. Not all programs will be recognized.
Not the movie, but the menu stepping sometimes come up with a strong voice crackling. Similarly a blank white noise. The input switching disappear.
Thanks for the extensive review. I do have a question:
Does it supports connecting an external Hard Drive and if so, does it supports a 3TB hard drive and how do I search its contents?
Many thanks,
Ice
Ice_machinE said:
Thanks for the extensive review. I do have a question:
Does it supports connecting an external Hard Drive and if so, does it supports a 3TB hard drive and how do I search its contents?
Many thanks,
Ice
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There are 2 USB Ports for this purpose. Those are mounted into /storage/xxxx Partition. You can use any File Explorer program such as ES File Explorer to navigate to that directory. The same program will allow you to search as well.
I am not sure if it supports up to 3 TB Storage. I'd think Kitkat does. So give it a try.
Thanks, if like to be sure before I'd buy it. I wouldn't want to buy it and only then to discover that I can't use my hard drive.
Ice_machinE said:
Thanks, if like to be sure before I'd buy it. I wouldn't want to buy it and only then to discover that I can't use my hard drive.
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I have a Passport 2 TB. If you want I can try that with my unit to see if it reads.
I'd love that, thx
Ice_machinE said:
I'd love that, thx
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Ok will revert.
EDIT - @Ice_machinE My passport connected flawlessly. I didn't test a lot but played one mp3 song off it. The drive mounts into /storage/ExteSD/sdo
Just remind me, is it 3TB or 2TB hard drive?
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Just remind me, is it 3TB or 2TB hard drive?
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2 TB. But then its my assumption that 3 TB won't be any different. Android would be able to mount the partition if FSTAB is set to mount one.
thanks, I've ordered the box
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2 TB. But then its my assumption that 3 TB won't be any different. Android would be able to mount the partition if FSTAB is set to mount one.
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thx, with your help, i've made a decision and ordered the box
Can someone post impressions about headphone audio quality of the V10? From an audiophile perspective. Thanks
calinormy said:
Can someone post impressions about headphone audio quality of the V10? From an audiophile perspective. Thanks
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The audiophile world sounds pumped:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/782706/lg-v10-new-ess-chipped-flagship-android-phone-from-lg
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The audiophile world sounds pumped:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/782706/lg-v10-new-ess-chipped-flagship-android-phone-from-lg
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I was already watching the tread, I was trying to get new info from owners. Thanks anyway
https://instagram.com/p/8twmu1S51G/
This guy talks about its audio around 5:00
https://youtu.be/ZMsxAKUM53M
Apparently the ESS DAC is only triggered with the stock app. Maybe someone here have the knowledge to unlock that ?
flashmp3 said:
Apparently the ESS DAC is only triggered with the stock app. Maybe someone here have the knowledge to unlock that ?
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What other DAC would it use?...
Nitemare3219 said:
What other DAC would it use?...
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Qualcomm Snapdragon DAC
The standard DAC in the Qualcomm Snapdragon SOC is mediocre at best. I use a pair of Sennheiser Momentums to test sound quality between my devices as they're easily driven by cellular audio DACs. Comparing the Note 4's Snapdragon 805 DAC to the Wolfson chip in the Exynos 7420 in the Note 5 is like night and day. Not only is it much louder, the details are far cleaner with highs, mids and lows better represented. Even with the d*mn good Sound Alive equalizer in the Note 4, the audio is recessed juxtaposed to the Wolfson chip. Without having tested the Vivo Hi-Fi DAC, I'd still have to give the overall win to HTC in terms of headphone audio quality. They never revealed the DAC, but it's leagues better than the S5 which had the same chipset.
Why is it only limited the the stock player? I'm confused. I thought it was for all sound output
Hmm that's pretty dissapoinying if what the reviewer says about the dac is correct. The m9 is great, but I would assume a significant upgrade with the sabre dac.
Wonder why only the standard music app can access the dac?
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Hmm that's pretty dissapoinying if what the reviewer says about the dac is correct. The m9 is great, but I would assume a significant upgrade with the sabre dac.
Wonder why only the standard music app can access the dac?
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Ya. This would be sad
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The standard DAC in the Qualcomm Snapdragon SOC is mediocre at best. I use a pair of Sennheiser Momentums to test sound quality between my devices as they're easily driven by cellular audio DACs. Comparing the Note 4's Snapdragon 805 DAC to the Wolfson chip in the Exynos 7420 in the Note 5 is like night and day. Not only is it much louder, the details are far cleaner with highs, mids and lows better represented. Even with the d*mn good Sound Alive equalizer in the Note 4, the audio is recessed juxtaposed to the Wolfson chip. Without having tested the Vivo Hi-Fi DAC, I'd still have to give the overall win to HTC in terms of headphone audio quality. They never revealed the DAC, but it's leagues better than the S5 which had the same chipset.
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I guess the good sound quality comes from a good quality AMP that goes along with the DAC......A good amp allow headphones to give their full potential
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That is not right. I have listened the 24-bit tune that comes with the phone using both the stock Music Player and Google Play Music and both sound exactly alike.
Also, when you are using Hi-Fi, and icon shows in the top bar, and it happens with both the stock Music Player and Google Play Music.
I think flashmp3 should really clarify his sources, because based on evidence, what he says is just not true.
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That is not right. I have listened the 24-bit tune that comes with the phone using both the stock Music Player and Google Play Music and both sound exactly alike.
Also, when you are using Hi-Fi, and icon shows in the top bar, and it happens with both the stock Music Player and Google Play Music.
I think flashmp3 should really clarify his sources, because based on evidence, what he says is just not true.
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It's talked about in this audio review on Head-Fi:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/785335/lg-v10-hi-fi-audio-quality-review-on-serious-audio-performance
The op of that thread verified that the additional DAC is only functional on the LG app.
Exactly........that was my source. I should have precised it.......i thought that people talking in this thread here were the same talking in the LG V10 thread on Head-Fi as both are concerned by audio quality
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Exactly........that was my source. I should have precised it.......i thought that people talking in this thread here were the same talking in the LG V10 thread on Head-Fi as both are concerned by audio quality
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Listening to Google Play Music, I still see the Hi-Fi icon. In fact, it lights on right after you connect headphones, no matter if you are playing any music or not.
The sound amplification does not change no matter which player I use: Stock or Play Music. I have tested it listening with some pretty good headphones, and using the 24-bit sample provided by LG.
The only way I can think neither of us is wrong, is that the latest update (1 week ago) has enabled it for all the players and the review on the Hi-Fi forum was on the firmware before the update?
I have a F600S, but I do not think the exact phone variant will make a difference on this.
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It's talked about in this audio review on Head-Fi:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/785335/lg-v10-hi-fi-audio-quality-review-on-serious-audio-performance
The op of that thread verified that the additional DAC is only functional on the LG app.
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From reading some of the Head Fi discussion, I'm not sure that the OP "verified" that the additional dac only works with the LG app. The poster seems to believe strongly that it's the case. There's no concrete evidence given, in my opinion.
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https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=Y19PZnhLUnFoXzlHb0dDRU15S1J3U19KbXlfa3pR
Listening to Google Play Music, I still see the Hi-Fi icon. In fact, it lights on right after you connect headphones, no matter if you are playing any music or not.
The sound amplification does not change no matter which player I use: Stock or Play Music. I have tested it listening with some pretty good headphones, and using the 24-bit sample provided by LG.
The only way I can think neither of us is wrong, is that the latest update (1 week ago) has enabled it for all the players and the review on the Hi-Fi forum was on the firmware before the update?
I have a F600S, but I do not think the exact phone variant will make a difference on this.
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That would make my day if it is patched. I want this phone so bad.
I have been using the V10 for the better part of two days. It sounds damn good. Mostly of my music is 24/96 and 16/44 FLAC files
I typically run my note 4 with an Apex Glacier. This will definitely be replacing that setup.
I didn't honestly use anything other then the stock music player. It sounds amazing as is so didn't bother trying anything else. I can load PowerAmp in the morning and check though.
Introduction
Together with many other Android Mini PCs, also Minix decided to release an up-to-date device with many interesting features, most of them exclusive from this Company. This is an huge upgrade of their previous Minix X8-H Plus, only the Chassis hasn’t been redesigned.
This is the Minix NEO U1 Media Hub
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Unboxing
Most of you will receive two packages when you order it, the Minix NEO U1 Package and the Minix A2 Lite (Air Mouse/Keyboard) package.
NEO U1 package comes with many accessories: 1x HDMI Cable, 1x Power Supply (5V/3A), 1x WiFi Antenna, 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x Micro-USB OTG Cable, 1x Remote Control (no Air Mouse), 1x Multi-Language Setup Guide, 1x Product Brochure and the Mini PC (of course).
No Air Mouse/Keyboard is included in the main package, but the Minix A2 Lite Air Mouse/Keyboard is provided separately without any Extra Cost. Just two different packages.
The NEO A2 Lite is absolutely a great Air Mouse/Keyboard, it feels pretty Solid and it doesn’t weight much too. I just don’t like the noise produced when Keys are pressed, unlike standard Remote Controls. It works also on other devices such as standard Desktop PCs or anything else that has a USB Port and supports Mouse/Keyboard input.
Device
About Design, the Chassis is plastic made and it has a kind of rubberized surface, this is what makes the device look so opaque. Heat Dissipation isn’t impacted though, so don’t worry even if this isn’t made of Metal.
It is as compact as most of all Mini PCs, just 12.8x12.8x2.3 and it is also lightweight enough.
As specified before, the whole surface (except the lower side) is kind of rubberized. On the Upper Side there is just a big brand logo (pretty cool, not printed), nothing else. Absolutely clean.
On the front side there is the IR Receiver (required to use the included Remote Control) and a Blue Power LED.
On the left, there is just 1x Wi-Fi Antenna Connector but the Second Antenna is internal, fixed to the upper side of the chassis. (2x2 RX/TX Wi-Fi Adapter)
On the right, there are 3x Standard USB 2.0 Ports, 1x micro SD Card slot, 1x Kensington Lock, 1x Micro-USB Connector (used for OTG or to connect the device to a PC) and a Power Button.
USB Ports are well designed here, you won’t have any kind of problem even with big USB Sticks. Well Done Minix!
The rear features separate Headphone/Microphone Jacks (like PCs), 1x HDMI port, 1x SPDIF port, 1x LAN 10/100/1000 port (Yes, Gigabit Ethernet), and 1x 5.5mm DC in.
On the lower side there isn’t anything at all, absolutely clean.
Testing
Using latest available System Software, I didn’t managed to find any performance issue. Android is always smooth, it doesn’t hang at all neither it feels extremely customized so that Stock Android experience would have been somehow impacted. It is just AOSP, with minor customization required to use the Mini PC in the best way possible, nothing extra except the Minix Launcher & Settings. There are also some third-party apps installed such as ES File Manager. Not a lot though.
Minix Settings app is complete and comfortable to use. Nearly required if you plan to use only the Remote Control.
If you don’t like Minix Settings, or if you need something that is missing, you can still open the Standard Android Settings.
The built-in Wi-Fi Adapter is super fast; it supports 2x2 config. so I managed to get connected to my 5GHz Home Network (using a Netgear R6300v2) at nearly maximum speed even if signal wasn’t extremely good. I don’t have a super fast internet connection, so I won’t be able to show you an useful speed test, but I can just say the results weren’t different than the ones recorded on my Desktop PC.
This device is powered by an Amlogic S905 CPU supported by an ARM Mali-450MP GPU. Even if the GPU isn’t a last-gen version, it still performs pretty well. I’ll talk about performance on next paragraph.
Latest available OTA Update is based still based on Android 5.1 Lollipop, maybe in the future it will be update to Android 6.0 Marshmallow or even better Android N, but I think that there isn’t any need yet to upgrade it.
I have tested some USB Sticks, and all were recognized without any compatibility issue. This is a test with a 64GB USB Stick formatted with NTFS File System.
Benchmarks
I have used 3DMark (Ice Storm, Ice Storm Unlimited, Ice Storm Extreme), A1 SD Bench, Antutu Benchmark, Antutu Video Tester (for Video Playback), Epic Citadel, GeekBench 3, AndroBench, PCMark (Work) and Vellamo (Browser & CPU Tests) to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark
Ice Storm
Ice Storm Unlimited
Ice Storm Extreme
Almost all Tests managed to reach more or less 30 FPS, the minimum limit required for a smooth Gaming experience, so it is pretty good considering that the built-in GPU isn’t extremely powerful.
A1 SD Bench & AndroBench – Internal eMMC performance is mediocre, not so much fast but neither so much slow. Powerful enough for an Android Mini-PC.
Antutu Benchmark – Result nearly equal to other CPUs with 4x Cortex-A53. As you can see 3D is the lower score. This is where the age of GPU can have a negative impact.
GeekBench – I must admit that there is something wrong for sure because the score is lower than other worse CPUs (no throttling here, the device was cold) so I think that built-in kernel needs to be optimized a lot to get the maximum from this nice CPU. Minix, take a look at this benchmark’s score.
Epic Citadel – As you can see, Gaming experience won’t be impacted even if the built-in GPU is old, you can enjoy your games without any issue at all.
PCMark – Decent score here, you can use this device also for Office & Web apps in the best way possible.
Vellamo – This is another complete BenchMark Suite, as you can see Browser performance is near to Nexus 5, i’m pretty sure that this will be improved with the next updates. CPU Performance (Single & Multi) is again, similar to Nexus 5, and as I said before, Minix should work a bit on the Kernel to improve CPU performance.
Browser
CPU
Antutu Video Tester – Used to test Video Playback capabilities. All types of Videos are played without any issue, neither there is any compatibility issue. It seems that Minix has optimized this device especially for Video Playback. (“Media Hub” says all)
Kodi (ex KBMC) – I know, this isn’t a Benchmark Suite but I have tested it (it was also preinstalled) to see if it is working in a smooth way in order to use this device as a Media Center, and I can say that it is as smooth as it is on my Desktop PC.
Conclusions
Well, it is hard to say if this is something that you should buy or not, because the not-so-good GPU Performance and the low CPU Performance related to poor Kernel optimization don’t offer the performance that you would expect, but actually it is hard to find a better ARM-Based Mini PC. This is one of the most complete available and offers continuous Manufacturer OTA Updates (unlike some other Chinese Brands), so...do I recommend it?
The reply is: Yes, unless you want to spend almost 4x the price of this device to build your own HTPC or you prefer an x86 Mini PC with Windows.
Official Specs
Rating: 8.5
Packaging and Accessories: 10
Design and Materials: 8
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 7.5
Software: 9
Price: 8 (based on Amazon.it price)
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/CBAIT
Official Website: http://minix.com.hk/en/products/neo-u1
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Thanks for your review.
Minix is the best TV box brand, and Amlogic SoC is the best TV Box solution from my opinion.
20160415 OTA Update has been released with some nice improvements. Remember to update your Mini PC
If you have modified your device and you are now facing issues, just follow this post on the Official Minix forum to restore it: http://www.minixforum.com/threads/neo-u1-full-system-image-reflashing-guide.10046/
Hi guys,
I would like to know if this player could do audio (and HD audio) passthrough.
I want to connect the player to my AVR and get DD, DTS, TrueHD, and DTS HD audio. Is it possible?
Thanks in advance.
pel
pel.hu said:
Hi guys,
I would like to know if this player could do audio (and HD audio) passthrough.
I want to connect the player to my AVR and get DD, DTS, TrueHD, and DTS HD audio. Is it possible?
Thanks in advance.
pel
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Source: cnx-software
I have a question for you all, have you tried to use native 3D format on this device?
Hi Guys
I'm a Neo U1 owner here.
I've been checking the interwebz and would just like to know your opinion on the xbox 360 - genuine and non genuine AND wireless and wired - controllers.
Can anyone assist me or just give me some info
Thanks
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Hi Guys
I'm a Neo U1 owner here.
I've been checking the interwebz and would just like to know your opinion on the xbox 360 - genuine and non genuine AND wireless and wired - controllers.
Can anyone assist me or just give me some info
Thanks
Toufinious said:
Hi Guys
I'm a Neo U1 owner here.
I've been checking the interwebz and would just like to know your opinion on the xbox 360 - genuine and non genuine AND wireless and wired - controllers.
Can anyone assist me or just give me some info
Thanks
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You mean how they work with the NEO U1?
Alberto96 said:
You mean how they work with the NEO U1?
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yup .
Just got back from the Minixforums and it seems that any old wired xbox 360 controller will work (that is genuine and "generic")
as for wireless controllers... it seems that the genuine Microsoft wireless receiver is required in order for it to work
Hi... I m Minix neo U1 user. How to root minix neo u1? Because i used droidmote server, and need root acces. Anyone help... Please... Thanks
yoesazel said:
Hi... I m Minix neo U1 user. How to root minix neo u1? Because i used droidmote server, and need root acces. Anyone help... Please... Thanks
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Test this
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...tools-au/543706-root-minix-neo-u1-root-method
or
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...ols-au/544002-new-minix-u1-ez-root-zip-method
Minix NEO U1
Bigjazz2016 said:
Test this
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...tools-au/543706-root-minix-neo-u1-root-method
or
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...ols-au/544002-new-minix-u1-ez-root-zip-method
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Thanks for your answer sir... I already try this method. thats is for root Minix U1 doesn't Minix NEO U1? Sorry If i mistakes... Thanks alot
yoesazel said:
Thanks for your answer sir... I already try this method. thats is for root Minix U1 doesn't Minix NEO U1? Sorry If i mistakes... Thanks alot
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Minix U1 and Minix Neo U1 are the same device
Bigjazz2016 said:
Minix U1 and Minix Neo U1 are the same device
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Ok Sir... I will try.... Thanks for you info
Hello guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me with finding the right way to watch live TV on this box.
I was wondering what people use / recommend. I prefer a user friendly app / emulator.... that my kinds can use without needing help.
Thanks in advance
foxy6800 said:
Hello guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me with finding the right way to watch live TV on this box.
I was wondering what people use / recommend. I prefer a user friendly app / emulator.... that my kinds can use without needing help.
Thanks in advance
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There are tons of options..Kodi being the best along with Terrarium TV, and SET TV....google and you tube would prob be the easiest...none of these will be easy for a kid to navigate through though more than likely.
Hi Again Guys... I already done rooted my minix neo u1. Now i want install fiver4android in minix... Any solution to do that? because i already try, and viper4android cannot run properly. Always ask to install drivers, even i already done install that drivers. Anyone help me... Pleaseee... Thanks ( FW 013, rooted, superuser, busybox already there)
I've got the 8" version and I noticed that when I connect a bluetooth headphone or speaker the wifi slow down to less than 1 mbps while playing music or video. Can anyone test if it's a common problem or is it just my unit?
Thanks.
PD: sorry for my english if I made any mistakes.
ZunsheV said:
I've got the 8" version and I noticed that when I connect a bluetooth headphone or speaker the wifi slow down to less than 1 mbps while playing music or video. Can anyone test if it's a common problem or is it just my unit?
Thanks.
PD: sorry for my english if I made any mistakes.
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I don't own the MediaPad M5, but i have a MediaPad M3, and it does indeed have the same problem. I was wondering about getting an M5, but if it have the same problem, i am a little skeptical.
The-bimse said:
I don't own the MediaPad M5, but i have a MediaPad M3, and it does indeed have the same problem. I was wondering about getting an M5, but if it have the same problem, i am a little skeptical.
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Well as WiFi and Bluetooth use the same frequencies there is always an interference between them especially if you have two streams in parallel (downloading the music file and transmitting to the head phones). You could try to use 5GHz for WiFi in that case Bluetooth should not be affected.
AndDiSa said:
Well as WiFi and Bluetooth use the same frequencies there is always an interference between them especially if you have two streams in parallel (downloading the music file and transmitting to the head phones). You could try to use 5GHz for WiFi in that case Bluetooth should not be affected.
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This isn't a minor interference, it makes wifi almost useless. Less than 1 mbps of download speed, latency increases and sometimes it doesn't even work at all. I did this speed test right next to the router while playing a song:
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With bluetooth on it is impossible to stream a video without constantly buffering. I did the same test on my phone and my laptop and both are ok. My router doesn't support 5 GHz, but I read that it doesn't fix the problem for people with the same issue on other devices.
Edit: And don't forget that this tablet doesn't have a 3.5 mm headphone jack (a really stupid decision if you ask me), so it push you to go wireless and this is what you get.........
I have the m5 10" version and I have the same. About 0.5MB at a 5Ghz network while listening to some music. Get around 5-10MB with Bluetooth disabled.
taldershof said:
I have the m5 10" version and I have the same. About 0.5MB at a 5Ghz network while listening to some music. Get around 5-10MB with Bluetooth disabled.
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It's not just my unit then, must be a bad design of the antennas or whatever I guess, great. Because I don't think it could be fixed with a software update, right?
This is unacceptable to me, I'm going to return it. Now the problem is what tablet buy next. What other choices are there? IPad, I don't like Apple; Samsung Tab S2 is kinda old; S3 too expensive...... damn it.
AndDiSa said:
Well as WiFi and Bluetooth use the same frequencies there is always an interference between them especially if you have two streams in parallel (downloading the music file and transmitting to the head phones). You could try to use 5GHz for WiFi in that case Bluetooth should not be affected.
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I have the M3 and just tried it. With Bluetooth on I get less than 1 mbps down while streaming, just under 5 mbps with no streaming. With Bluetooth off I get 155 down on my 5ghz wifi. Damn. I usually use my phone for music.
The mediapad M3 has this issue also, it just crawls when using wifi and Bluetooth.
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This is not device specific. This is a bluetooth WiFi general problem. The 2.4 GHz frequency
radaan said:
This is not device specific. This is a bluetooth WiFi general problem. The 2.4 GHz frequency
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Have you read all the replies? You couldn't be more wrong:
taldershof said:
I have the m5 10" version and I have the same. About 0.5MB at a 5Ghz network while listening to some music. Get around 5-10MB with Bluetooth disabled.
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purple lady said:
I have the M3 and just tried it. With Bluetooth on I get less than 1 mbps down while streaming, just under 5 mbps with no streaming. With Bluetooth off I get 155 down on my 5ghz wifi. Damn. I usually use my phone for music.
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ZunsheV said:
[...] I did the same test on my phone and my laptop and both are ok. [...]
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I appreciate that you're trying to help, but come on, don't write the first thing that comes to your mind without checking the facts....
ZunsheV said:
Have you read all the replies? You couldn't be more wrong:
I appreciate that you're trying to help, but come on, don't write the first thing that comes to your mind without checking the facts....
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Just do one Google search. I have 3 devices. Google nexus 10. Oneplus 3 and the mediapad m5. All have the same problem when using bluetooth devices in various routers in various network providers in various houses. This is a problem that thousands of People have asked all over Internet, in Android in ios in Windows Phone. Im not saying nothing that Comes out of my mind.google it before you call me out.
radaan said:
Just do one Google search. I have 3 devices. Google nexus 10. Oneplus 3 and the mediapad m5. All have the same problem when using bluetooth devices in various routers in various network providers in various houses. This is a problem that thousands of People have asked all over Internet, in Android in ios in Windows Phone. Im not saying nothing that Comes out of my mind.google it before you call me out.
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Ok, I'll give you some numbers.
Huawei M5 playing a song through bluetooth:
M5 bluetooth off (I know, my internet connection sucks):
Nexus 5x playing a song through bluetooth:
Nexus 5x bluetooth off:
Can you see the difference??
I know that if a lot of devices are connected at the same frequencies there is going to be interferences and the speed is going to drop (notice the minor hit in the Nexus). But the case with the M5 is not normal, must be a bad design. It makes wifi almost useless. And there are 2 replies that have test it in a 5 GHz wifi and the problem persist.
ZunsheV said:
Ok, I'll give you some numbers.
Huawei M5 playing a song through bluetooth:
M5 bluetooth off (I know, my internet connection sucks):
Nexus 5x playing a song through bluetooth:
Nexus 5x bluetooth off:
Can you see the difference??
I know that if a lot of devices are connected at the same frequencies there is going to be interferences and the speed is going to drop (notice the minor hit in the Nexus). But the case with the M5 is not normal, must be a bad design. It makes wifi almost useless. And there are 2 replies that have test it in a 5 GHz wifi and the problem persist.
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Man. I gave up bluetooth headphones a long time ago. Just search the internets for this problem. You have enough to a week. The general answer for this question is change router channel or get a 5ghz router.
radaan said:
Man. I gave up bluetooth headphones a long time ago. Just search the internets for this problem. You have enough to a week. The general answer for this question is change router channel or get a 5ghz router.
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Again?? Did you not read that a 5 GHz router doesn't fix it? This thing is broken.
Give up bluetooth headphones on a device that doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack, great. And no, that stupid usb to jack adaptor it's not a proper solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
The tablet is going back to the store next week.
ZunsheV said:
Again?? Did you not read that a 5 GHz router doesn't fix it? This thing is broken.
Give up bluetooth headphones on a device that doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack, great. And no, that stupid usb to jack adaptor it's not a proper solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
The tablet is going back to the store next week.
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Again. Google it. Its not a problem related to this device. Its all over the internet. Every OS and lots of devices. Maybe some devices dont suffer as much from the problem but this is definitely not a problem related exclusively to this device.
https://www.google.pt/search?q=blue...ndroid-huawei&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
ZunsheV said:
Again?? Did you not read that a 5 GHz router doesn't fix it? This thing is broken.
Give up bluetooth headphones on a device that doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack, great. And no, that stupid usb to jack adaptor it's not a proper solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
The tablet is going back to the store next week.
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Oneplus 3 Just Now. With and without bluetooth device connected.
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Oneplus 3 Just Now. With and without bluetooth device connected.
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Oneplus 5 just now. With Bluetooth device connected 124 down 12 up. With Bluetooth device connected and streaming 134 down 12 up.
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purple lady said:
Oneplus 5 just now. With Bluetooth device connected 124 down 12 up. With Bluetooth device connected and streaming 134 down 12 up.
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I just realized that I didn't test with no Bluetooth.
No Bluetooth - 160 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected - 170 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected and streaming - 168 down 12 up.
It looks like Bluetooth improves download speed. ?
radaan said:
Again. Google it. Its not a problem related to this device. Its all over the internet. Every OS and lots of devices. Maybe some devices dont suffer as much from the problem but this is definitely not a problem related exclusively to this device.
https://www.google.pt/search?q=blue...ndroid-huawei&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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Unbelievable..... Last time I reply to this.
I have tested my family's phones, a Xiaomi Redmi 3s and a Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro, and both under the same conditions give me around 9 mb/s:
So let's compare numbers:
Nexus 5x - 12 mb/s
Both Xiaomi (budget phones) - around 9 mb/s
Huawei M5 - around 0.6 mb/s (tested multiple times, it never gets more than 0.8)
The M5 is more than 10 times slower. Do you get it now? Yes, none of them get the maximum speed when bluetooth is on, but only one becomes extremely slow.
Ok, those are the hard numbers, but what about real life usage? Well, the M5 is so slow that browsing the web is a pain in the ass, web pages with lots of images takes forever to load, and it is impossible to watch a hd youtube video because it's constantly buffering. None of this happens on the other devices. Do you see the problem now??
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Oneplus 3 Just Now. With and without bluetooth device connected.
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Well, I'm sorry for you, but your phone has a problem too. Maybe you should contact One Plus....
purple lady said:
No Bluetooth - 160 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected - 170 down 12 up
Bluetooth device connected and streaming - 168 down 12 up.
It looks like Bluetooth improves download speed.
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Thanks. A demonstration that it can be done right.
this is really sad to see. there are so few tablets to choose from, and even less if you want hd screens and latest gen hardware. this one looks great on paper, but reading in here is a complete disappointment.
it does not take a rocket scientist to notice the speed problem, and anyone that says "well dont use bluetooth!" if they cant make them play nice (which they do fine on other hardware, at least well enough to use both at the same time without noticing an issue) they should not have even put bluetooth on the device.
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Unbelievable..... Last time I reply to this.
I have tested my family's phones, a Xiaomi Redmi 3s and a Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro, and both under the same conditions give me around 9 mb/s:
So let's compare numbers:
Nexus 5x - 12 mb/s
Both Xiaomi (budget phones) - around 9 mb/s
Huawei M5 - around 0.6 mb/s (tested multiple times, it never gets more than 0.8)
The M5 is more than 10 times slower. Do you get it now? Yes, none of them get the maximum speed when bluetooth is on, but only one becomes extremely slow.
Ok, those are the hard numbers, but what about real life usage? Well, the M5 is so slow that browsing the web is a pain in the ass, web pages with lots of images takes forever to load, and it is impossible to watch a hd youtube video because it's constantly buffering. None of this happens on the other devices. Do you see the problem now??
Well, I'm sorry for you, but your phone has a problem too. Maybe you should contact One Plus....
Thanks. A demonstration that it can be done right.
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I hope ppl staying saying ALL android has this problem, the problem with my M3 is wifi is nearly unusable when blutooth is on. And pls stop misleading huawei tablet users 5ghz will be better. IT DOESNT HELP. I have owned many android ( samsung note3, note5, xiaomi, even entry lenovo tablet n nvr had one with wifi problem with blutooth on. I am using m3 and even 5ghz is below 1mbps for download with blutooth on. If u have sim version u should check from time to time.. It is slow extremely slow compared to other device using the same sim. I have given up. By the way my problem is only for download, upload tests are ok with wifi n sim.
so far i'm really liking this phone. however, there are a couple things i wish were a little different:
1) i wish it had a dedicated, not-behind-the-screen fingerprint sensor (one thing my old LG did right).
2) i wish it supported apt-x hd for use with my (non-sony) wireless headphones.
so, i went looking for a solution to #2. for now, it appears that samsung just doesn't support apt-x hd-- and future official support is looking somewhere between doubtful and hopeless. additionally, i have a us version; my bootloader is locked and there does not appear to be a feasible software solution to the problem without root.
however, i stumbled onto this: creative bt-w3. i ordered it today and most likely won't have my hands on it for another week, buti wanted to make this post to:
--let people know about this possible solution to a vexing problem
--solicit any feedback or reviews, in case someone has already received one.
thanks for reading.
Vexing? This is vexing?
I just use LDAC, it's better than APT-X HD...
The Note9 when came out with Oreo, it had AptXHD then it was removed with Android Pie.
Now, after complaining, they out back AptX yet no HD support or HiRes audio support.
Seems Samsung is all about gimmicks but not audio.
The Dolby Atmos is crap if someone wants to defend them, try the Dolby Atmos on a Xbox One, then try the Samsung version and it's just an equalizer setting.
I'm currently saving for the Xperia phone, I'm done with Samsung.
Hey zagtastic, did you get this creative device working on your phone? I'm curious if it did in fact work for you. I'm looking into getting an S20 5G and was surprised by the lack of aptx-hd support on the specs.
liamstears said:
I just use LDAC, it's better than APT-X HD...
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If memory serves me correctly it's not; AptX-HD has better overall audio qualities. LDAC is the next best.
Even rooting won't give you AptX-HD; all these latter generation Samsung's lack the hardware support for this codec.
Sammy boned us proper...
Bump, so does this thing work on a Samsung?
My Soundpeats TrueAir 2 buds sound bloody awesome with Dolby on but also running Poweramp. If anything they sound better than they were on my Mi10T Pro that has Apt-x built in.
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Vexing? This is vexing?
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No. whats vexing is buying the Note 20 Ultra 5G "unlocked" from Best Buy at $1300 only to realize it is still impossible to unlock the bootloader despite "right to repair". I will never buy another Galaxy or any other overpriced, overgoverned Samdung product. I should have bought another OnePlus. The lack of Apt-X is irritating but not a problem Id call "vexing" when there are so many other complaints that dwarf it.
Any Bluetooth codec will never be as good as a wired set of headphones anyway, UAPP or Poweramp output to 1 More or Similar in ears will sound a lot better, (inexpensively)
blackhawk said:
If memory serves me correctly it's not; AptX-HD has better overall audio qualities. LDAC is the next best.
Even rooting won't give you AptX-HD; all these latter generation Samsung's lack the hardware support for this codec.
Sammy boned us proper...
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My ultra has aptX. It's in the developer section. Turn on HD audio and you can select it.
pvcdroid said:
My ultra has aptX. It's in the developer section. Turn on HD audio and you can select it.
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SSC is a better choice for Samsung Buds, etc. then APTX. Sample it...
blackhawk said:
If memory serves me correctly it's not; AptX-HD has better overall audio qualities. LDAC is the next best.
Even rooting won't give you AptX-HD; all these latter generation Samsung's lack the hardware support for this codec.
Sammy boned us proper...
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LDAC streams at a max of 990kbps, translating to a sample rate of 96kHz and a bit depth of 24 bits while APTXhd stops at 48 kHz.
So LDAC is the top one followed by APTXhd
corbalan12 said:
LDAC streams at a max of 990kbps, translating to a sample rate of 96kHz and a bit depth of 24 bits while APTXhd stops at 48 kHz.
So LDAC is the top one followed by APTXhd
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If you bt device doesn't support LDAC but its a Samsung bt that supports SCC that's probably the next best choice.
APTX HD is off the table useless it's hardware supported to begin with. Samsung does not support it.