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I have 2 working titans, i was wondering if it would be possible to de-solder the memory chip off one and solder it into the other one where it has the empty space for ram, would this work? does anyone have a link to the high res photos of the board inside?
nevermind, upon taking apart one of mine and removing the shields i see no blank space for extra ram, i wonder what i was thinking of that i saw had an extra spot, it looks like theres no room under here
I will NEVER understand why a $600.00 retail phone that runs windows would not come with more RAM - it is the ONLY complaint I have with this device!! MAKES NO SENSE!!! How much MORE could it have costed to put a 128MB unit in there???? $10????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARARARGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
I think the issue is really just that the phone was late to market. The hardware was well within the standards for WM5 (for which it was apparently designed). By the time the phone actually made it to market, 128MB of memory was now the standard with the introduction of WM6. There are reasons other than cost to not just throw a ton of RAM into a device.
kashabrown said:
I will NEVER understand why a $600.00 retail phone that runs windows would not come with more RAM - it is the ONLY complaint I have with this device!! MAKES NO SENSE!!! How much MORE could it have costed to put a 128MB unit in there???? $10????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARARARGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok, I am so sick of hearing this argument from consumers, who the majority of the time don't have a clue how marketing and the economy works. think about it...if you ran a multi-billion dollar company making these devices, would you throw all your cards on the table in one fell swoop? of course not!
these companies are not stupid...sure they could release a device tomorrow that had 2gigs of ram, an awesome video card, 800x600 res screen, 64gb built in storage, and still be the size of the xv8600 if not smaller...but that would kille the company and also violate market laws no doubt (like when microsoft released internet explorer for free back when netscape navigator cost $30 a month to use...
come on, these companies are in it for the long haul...if they released a deivce with those stats i just listed (and they could easily...think how small a 8gb transflash card is...you could have 128GB (notmb) of ram easily running on those things, but anyway, if they released that, guess what you, the consumer would want 6 months from now? A device that was twice as good, and had twice as much ram, and speed and space, etc...
Why would these compnies shoot themselves in the foot? They are making money hand over fist selling these devices that use technology available 5-10 years ago...heck, if i were a CEO of LG or HTC or Samsung or whoever, I would be loving this.
It just makes sense, and the average consumer makes a post like that with no thought as to what would happen to the economy or company. Just because it can be done and easily done and you want it, doesnt mean the company is going to say "sure, let's skip 5 years of profits, and just give them what we could sell in 2012, now in 2008" - heck no they arent going to do that obviously.
THE BOTTOM LINE: We, the consumers, have a short memory, are very impatient, and want the next best thing no matter how good the current thing we have is. If they put 256mb in the Titan, your last post would have been...."WHY CANT THEY PUT IN 512MB?!?!?!!?" you see? So, these coampnies are making tons of money by dragging out the release of new technology process...I mean think about it...we have dual core 2.4ghz processors in the year 2001. It is SEVEN years later, and we are still selling dual core 2.4ghz computers for $1,500 and up. Sure, you can get a better deal by building your own but the average consumer doesnt know how to do that, so that lack of technical expertise, combined with slow technology drift, keeps these companies in the high profit margins. I mean by now, if we were all 100% tech-savvy we would be demanding (as a whole) 12-core computers, with 20ghz ciphs each core...it's just not gonna happen when these big conglomerates control the flow of technology.
One company kind of broke free of this, and did work on their own. Look up the RED 4K Camera. current professional cameras for filming are $2,000 and up and film 720x480pixels, well HD cameras ar emore expensive, $4000 and up for pro quality and they are 1920x1080 pixels, well the RED 4K Camera came out over 2 years ago and it can film in 3 to 4 times HD res @ 4000pixels. Of course since they are th eonly ones doing it they can charge $20,000 per camera when in reality the parts to make it cost about $500...but do you know how to make a video camera? do you know how to build a PDA? Do you know how to manufacture 64GB ram chips to put in your PDA? Are you a programmer and cna you make the firmware for your custom device? and the list goes on and on....this is why we PAY $600 for a device that costs them $50 to make. Get it?
::: Connor
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Ok, I am so sick of hearing this argument from consumers, who the majority of the time don't have a clue how marketing and the economy works. think about it...if you ran a multi-billion dollar company making these devices, would you throw all your cards on the table in one fell swoop? of course not!
these companies are not stupid...sure they could release a device tomorrow that had 2gigs of ram, an awesome video card, 800x600 res screen, 64gb built in storage, and still be the size of the xv8600 if not smaller...but that would kille the company and also violate market laws no doubt (like when microsoft released internet explorer for free back when netscape navigator cost $30 a month to use...
come on, these companies are in it for the long haul...if they released a deivce with those stats i just listed (and they could easily...think how small a 8gb transflash card is...you could have 128GB (notmb) of ram easily running on those things, but anyway, if they released that, guess what you, the consumer would want 6 months from now? A device that was twice as good, and had twice as much ram, and speed and space, etc...
Why would these compnies shoot themselves in the foot? They are making money hand over fist selling these devices that use technology available 5-10 years ago...heck, if i were a CEO of LG or HTC or Samsung or whoever, I would be loving this.
It just makes sense, and the average consumer makes a post like that with no thought as to what would happen to the economy or company. Just because it can be done and easily done and you want it, doesnt mean the company is going to say "sure, let's skip 5 years of profits, and just give them what we could sell in 2012, now in 2008" - heck no they arent going to do that obviously.
THE BOTTOM LINE: We, the consumers, have a short memory, are very impatient, and want the next best thing no matter how good the current thing we have is. If they put 256mb in the Titan, your last post would have been...."WHY CANT THEY PUT IN 512MB?!?!?!!?" you see? So, these coampnies are making tons of money by dragging out the release of new technology process...I mean think about it...we have dual core 2.4ghz processors in the year 2001. It is SEVEN years later, and we are still selling dual core 2.4ghz computers for $1,500 and up. Sure, you can get a better deal by building your own but the average consumer doesnt know how to do that, so that lack of technical expertise, combined with slow technology drift, keeps these companies in the high profit margins. I mean by now, if we were all 100% tech-savvy we would be demanding (as a whole) 12-core computers, with 20ghz ciphs each core...it's just not gonna happen when these big conglomerates control the flow of technology.
One company kind of broke free of this, and did work on their own. Look up the RED 4K Camera. current professional cameras for filming are $2,000 and up and film 720x480pixels, well HD cameras ar emore expensive, $4000 and up for pro quality and they are 1920x1080 pixels, well the RED 4K Camera came out over 2 years ago and it can film in 3 to 4 times HD res @ 4000pixels. Of course since they are th eonly ones doing it they can charge $20,000 per camera when in reality the parts to make it cost about $500...but do you know how to make a video camera? do you know how to build a PDA? Do you know how to manufacture 64GB ram chips to put in your PDA? Are you a programmer and cna you make the firmware for your custom device? and the list goes on and on....this is why we PAY $600 for a device that costs them $50 to make. Get it?
::: Connor
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I understand your arguments and mostly they are correct. But $30 bucks a month for Netscape Navigator? I can't remember that. I was surfing the net back in '94 on Netscape and I don't remember paying anything for it (apart from dialup charges - and that was even before IE existed) ****, does that show how old I am???
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Ok, I am so sick of hearing this argument from consumers, who the majority of the time don't have a clue how marketing and the economy works. think about it...if you ran a multi-billion dollar company making these devices, would you throw all your cards on the table in one fell swoop? of course not!
::: Connor
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They did it with the Touch.....they must be able to do it with the mogul even if they revamp it a bit. we put a man on the moon recently so why not more ram in a phone.
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I understand your arguments and mostly they are correct. But $30 bucks a month for Netscape Navigator? I can't remember that. I was surfing the net back in '94 on Netscape and I don't remember paying anything for it (apart from dialup charges - and that was even before IE existed) ****, does that show how old I am???
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well you cant be that old if you dont remember netscape sueing microsoft for anti-trust lawsuits for releasing free software into a market that undercut their $10-$30 netscape versions depending on which one you bought...(remember, netscape gold and all that lol, back in the early 90s (this is pre 1994) - that's just when yahoo finally came around. i mean i am only 26 and i remember having to use Mosaic web browser...the browser that eventually became Netscape Navigator...LINK #1 - Mosaic and this LINK #2 - Netscape - it talks all about the antitrust lawsuits, etc..
anyway, back on topic...double the ram didnt happen because of one word..."MONEY!" - you can make WAY more money as a company seeing how far and long you can push the customer.
-connor
Tregrad said:
They did it with the Touch.....they must be able to do it with the mogul even if they revamp it a bit. we put a man on the moon recently so why not more ram in a phone.
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you didnt understand his post, its not about cost or technology, its about marketing
the phone was designed fro WM5, so 64mb ram was more than enough, why should they put 128mb in the phone when in a year they can release a new phone with 128mb and everyone will buy that?
does it suck? sure, but its life, better get used to it
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you didnt understand his post, its not about cost or technology, its about marketing
the phone was designed fro WM5, so 64mb ram was more than enough, why should they put 128mb in the phone when in a year they can release a new phone with 128mb and everyone will buy that?
does it suck? sure, but its life, better get used to it
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This is the same idea why we don't have cars with fuel injectors that can run 70 miles to the gallon using standard gas. As long as demand is high enough on goods that are out there (i.e. old phones, old cars, and everything else) and people are willing to keep buying them with outmoded technology, there is no reason to sell the next great thing UNTIL someone else threatens to sell the same thing. Is there really any competition for HTC in the US markets? No. LG sux and runs an OS that looks like my mother-in-laws Razr. Samsung is ok, but doesn't have the utility and look of the vogue or titan.
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This is the same idea why we don't have cars with fuel injectors that can run 70 miles to the gallon using standard gas. As long as demand is high enough on goods that are out there (i.e. old phones, old cars, and everything else) and people are willing to keep buying them with outmoded technology, there is no reason to sell the next great thing UNTIL someone else threatens to sell the same thing. Is there really any competition for HTC in the US markets? No. LG sux and runs an OS that looks like my mother-in-laws Razr. Samsung is ok, but doesn't have the utility and look of the vogue or titan.
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Dude this is so true. They already have several engines that can get 50-100 mpg no problems. But why wold they bother when they can sell us hybrids which cost heaps more and don't get nearly as good mileage.
The latest is a 6 stroke engine that uses a standard four stroke motor and add two extra strokes per cycle using water! as the 'fuel'. The motor doesn't 'make' more power for nothing. This is not some fake 'perpetual motion machine' . The extra efficiency is achieved purely by getting more heat out of the same amount of fuel instead of throwing the heat out the tail pipe.
See this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_stroke_engine
Its a bit off topic but its a true example of the same thing. they will only do it when the market forces them to do it. $10 a gallon gasoline might be the push. (Look at Europe - they pay about they and their cars average about 40-45 mpg).
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(Look at Europe - they pay about they and their cars average about 40-45 mpg).
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True, but their cars only hold two and you drive around with their knees in their chests, so you better go on a diet, destroy your way of life and get rid of that SUV. I for one am going to be pulled out of my F-350 dead before i give it up.
thats why i make my own diesel fuel NOW if I could just figure out how to make my own phone LOL.
What yall are saying is true tho. we all know that the technology WE see, is the bottom of the barrel of their ideas. no one here would shoot their whole wad at once to appease the clammering consumer. a smart business man would make as much as they can by letting a bit out at a time while developing more and more "stuff" we desire and are willing to give up our hard earned money for.
Its called "capitalism" I know that a dirty word for the "dirt worshiping squirrel hugger" out there but, thats the way it is so get in the boat or tread water for as long as you can.
i dont get ppl with SUVs....i mean i live in Texas and i dont have an SUV or a truck...just a 4door sedan for me and my family. that's all i need, even with some dirt/rock roads when i go out into the country...a truck would actually be more bouncy and annoying to ride in. ive never liked SUVs for any purpose...but soccer moms for some reason think they need the Xterra or their husbands need Hummers to drive one or two kids to and from soccer practice...i dont get it. SUVs are pointless unless you work in construction.
-connor
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They did it with the Touch.....they must be able to do it with the mogul even if they revamp it a bit. we put a man on the moon recently so why not more ram in a phone.
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Maybe that was with the help of those $4000 HD digital video cameras
I am with you, I will be buried in my F350 Diesel.
Tregrad said:
True, but their cars only hold two and you drive around with their knees in their chests, so you better go on a diet, destroy your way of life and get rid of that SUV. I for one am going to be pulled out of my F-350 dead before i give it up.
thats why i make my own diesel fuel NOW if I could just figure out how to make my own phone LOL.
What yall are saying is true tho. we all know that the technology WE see, is the bottom of the barrel of their ideas. no one here would shoot their whole wad at once to appease the clammering consumer. a smart business man would make as much as they can by letting a bit out at a time while developing more and more "stuff" we desire and are willing to give up our hard earned money for.
Its called "capitalism" I know that a dirty word for the "dirt worshiping squirrel hugger" out there but, thats the way it is so get in the boat or tread water for as long as you can.
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So what are the chances of the Ram chip from a touch/tilt being soldered into the mogul assuming there is any similarities
they did something similar with the old palms to double the ram can be found here
http://pages.interlog.com/~tcharron/Palm8M/III8M.html
im fairly new to the pocket pc phones but what are the chances of using the extra rom space as a page file?
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Dude this is so true. They already have several engines that can get 50-100 mpg no problems. But why wold they bother when they can sell us hybrids which cost heaps more and don't get nearly as good mileage.
The latest is a 6 stroke engine that uses a standard four stroke motor and add two extra strokes per cycle using water! as the 'fuel'. The motor doesn't 'make' more power for nothing. This is not some fake 'perpetual motion machine' . The extra efficiency is achieved purely by getting more heat out of the same amount of fuel instead of throwing the heat out the tail pipe.
See this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_stroke_engine
Its a bit off topic but its a true example of the same thing. they will only do it when the market forces them to do it. $10 a gallon gasoline might be the push. (Look at Europe - they pay about they and their cars average about 40-45 mpg).
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There is better:
"Although you can definitely pre-order an Aptera if you're okay with space-aged design, Volkswagen is hoping to provide another option for those looking for ridiculous MPG and a little bit of normalcy in construction. Okay, so maybe the 1-Liter isn't exactly standard fare -- with its plastic / magnesium shell and all-glass roof -- but at least it packs four whole wheels and an iconic VW badge, right? According to Motor Authority, the automaker will be producing said vehicle and pushing it to market as early as 2010, and while the minuscule engine will only take you to 75MPH, it will still seat two people -- one in front of the other, though -- and get around 235MPG. No word on a price or any of that good stuff, but we're hearing that they'll only be produced in "limited numbers" whenever they're launched." (from engadget)
As for European cars..europeans don't need to travel as much because the size of the countries in europe are rather small in size comparison to the USA..realistically speaking is over 85mph even really necessary at all?
As for Titan..capitalism is one thing..we aren't asking for 1gb ram even though we would like it...but a decent amount to ensure you don't feel lag would make sense...
I love Europe... but the euro is costing more than the $... not a smart time to go there... YAY U.S. economy!!!!
anyway... I thought this was a WM forum... for a moment I felt I was in a Popular Mechanics forum... my 2 cents
gTen said:
As for Titan..capitalism is one thing..we aren't asking for 1gb ram even though we would like it...but a decent amount to ensure you don't feel lag would make sense...
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remember the titan was designed for WM5, and with WM5 128mb might as well be 1gb, lol
remember the titan was designed for WM5, and with WM5 128mb might as well be 1gb, lol
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The Titan was originally designed for WM5 yes, which is why the decision for 64 MB of ram was made. Then, however, they decided to throw WM6 on it and didn't even bother to give a damn that 64 MB of ram for WM6 is like running Windows XP with 256 MB of ram...it works, but just barely. Instead, as another poster pointed out, they figured that it would work to their advantage as people would enjoy WM6, but be disgruntled (as we all are) with such limited resources. This would lead us to buy yet another phone later on down the line with 128 MB of ram and WM6 (or now WM6.1).
Hey,
I guess how precious is the development of Coreplayer for Android!
lol, do we have any date for a working version??
I am sure that we are so many to wait impatiently this new application that will revolutionize the multimedia side of our "ANDROID" I hope that it will be as soon as possible!
[email protected]!D [email protected]!ON~
There's no official date yet, no. They were reporting that it wasn't possible with the latest NDK some months ago but I believe some progress has been made recently.
Two links for you to check out: -
The official thread for Core Player's Android development: http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2885
Core Player's Twitter account: http://twitter.com/CoreCodec
"Coreplayer developpers are working hard!!"
no they are not...
nope, they are still sitting on their ass, still no coreplayer Android.
Which are the Top 3 Video Players for Android ?
any Freeware ?
I use those (Summer player,Vital player, and Rockplayer) and they are availabe for free (with Ads) on the Android Market.
My favorite one so far is Summer Player since it's the most battery efficient among those and can manage to play RMVB codec based video better too.
Sohip said:
I use those (Summer player,Vital player, and Rockplayer) and they are availabe for free (with Ads) on the Android Market.
My favorite one so far is Summer Player since it's the most battery efficient among those and can manage to play RMVB codec based video better too.
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Thanks Bro
Second that
stoolzo said:
nope, they are still sitting on their ass, still no coreplayer Android.
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I second that! They announced and demoed some sh!t for iphone 2-3 years ago, then said releasing soon, then jailbreak markets, then io4,than sh!t...vaporware... nothing yet...
announced android for ces...vaporware... nothing yet...
All you hear from CorePlayer support is everything ready, for the past one year, yet nothing out there...
If you have a product that is ready, just release it, and fix the bugs along the way... If you dont have a properly working product, dont spread waporware news just to stay up in the news... it will will bite u in the back later!
This company is nothing but vaporware! They may have something in the oven, but have not cooked and served anything but vaporware for the last 2-3 years...
I bet they are just 1-2 young developers living off their families' pockets... Else company that is developing something this long would go bust without earning anything...
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I second...
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Be mindful little one... You are spitting out buco ignorance.. Bottomline is you have no idea what or who you are talking about.
OEM is the core of our business... We have tens of millions of products on Andoid and iOS using technologies like CorePlayer. Just because it does not have our 'name' on it does not mean you are not using our technologies in those resective marketplace stores.
While we would like to publish newer consumer versions if CorePlayer, we have opted to instead focus our efforts on otherwise ATM. This does not mean 'we' will not release it to the public rather then licensing it to Developers for integration into their products, it just means not at the moment.
With CoreAVC 3.0 and CoreMVC 3D coming out in the next Few weeks we will once again focus in on our consumer efforts.
Focusing in something else "at the moment" is realy funny.
Darn long moment in my eyes.
You've been practizing this policy for more then 5 years.
Even the WM6 version was announced to be right around the corner for over a year.
Compared to coreplayer duke nukem was right on time
At your TTM I don't think you you will ever be able catch up with current development.
Good luck with it though.
P.s.: luckyly you can't delete unwanted posts in this forum, betaboy
Sean.... Did you not read what i posted? You are more than likely already using our technologies if you are using any if the leading solutions on iOS or Android.
@beta_boy
Can you tell us which apps use your technology? I'd really like to know.
you are spitting out buco ignorance...
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Be mindful little one... You are spitting out buco ignorance.. Bottomline is you have no idea what or who you are talking about.
OEM is the core of our business... We have tens of millions of products on Andoid and iOS using technologies like CorePlayer. Just because it does not have our 'name' on it does not mean you are not using our technologies in those resective marketplace stores...
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I am sorry beta-boy, but did i miss anything different in your tone than in your PR releases?
I guess not... Same old buco ignorance in your own terms...
If you are so proud of your products, why not name a few out of the so called MILLIONS OF PRODUCTS on ANDROID?
Let me guess, I smell bull-crap! You are afraid to name them either because you dont have any products out there commercially, or the old debate about licensing issues... I m betting your so-called millions of products on android are based on no-name OEMs based in china where copy-right laws are as thin as air...
With CoreAVC 3.0 and CoreMVC 3D coming out in the next Few weeks we will once again focus in on our consumer efforts.
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Back to the beginning again... Same crap again Vaporware. Android, 1.0, 2.0, now 3.0? iphone3g,3gs, ios 4? ios5? You say your code business is OEM? If it is so, than Why would you make bold PR noise for releasing products to mass market when/where actually you will never release, and say they are around the corner for the last 5 years?
A company so proud of its products, cant name a single one of their products out of the millions... I dont know what you call this where you are situated, but where I am, it is called bull-crap vaporware.
I am saying it again, I am betting you can not name it due to licensing/copy-right issues, or you dont have any! Prove me wrong, you wise BIG ONE. I am betting again, if you release full-featured codec support for android will not live very long, because of again, licensing issues, and you will be sued to your pants. Do I smell something? My nose never lies, there is something fishy about the core of your business, and hence all this vaporware...
Coreplayer was nice on WM5. If it is still "the fastest h264 software decoder" I sure could use it on android. But Betaboy, if you know it will never be released just tell us, or if there are other media players on the market using your tech, tell us which! Too arrogant an attitude you seem to have to your increasingly disenfranchised [customer] base.
Hi, i know that for some of you buying an X10 right now is kind of pointless because there are a lot of available new phones but at the moment it's the only decent android device (1Ghz CPU) my carrier (Movistar Uruguay (movistar.com.uy)) is offering and is actually the best phone any carrier here is bringing. Buying an Unlocked one is out of question because of the insanely high prices (Galaxy S U$S ~1500) and no one i know is going to the US any time soon. So i can get the X10 in Movistar here at the same price of the X10 unlocked in the US (still pretty expensive).
Enough of background, i had the chance to try the Desire (U$S 1200! (tic.com.uy/HTC/)) and i found it to be snappier and more responsive than the X10. I mean, the Desire experience was what i expected but the X10 let me somewhat disappointed. Specially when sliding through the home screens and list scrolling. I can compare the Desire with the iPhone 3GS but the X10 seems it's below that. Even in Youtube videos.
Has anyone experienced that too? I know it was running Donut but nonetheless it felt like my firend's nokia 5230 or even the Samsung Star (which i think is also s5230). Heck, even the X8 running donut felt snappier. Maybe I'll go give it another try but this is kind of the only thing stopping me now with pinch n zoom around the corner and custom Froyo eventually available.
Sorry if i made it too long but i want to get my bang from my bucks. Hopefully while i make up my mind some other devices are going to be available, but now all the attention is in the iPhone 4 and RIM over here. Not so much on android.
Thanks for reading.
I liked X10 work pretty well but I have to say 384mb of ram may not be enough for play
I really bad thing is flash does not work
go for galaxy S i9000
Thanks for the quick reply but did you read what i said? 1500 US dollars for the galaxy. I mean, I tried it. it's great, gorgeous, but to my pocket it's not U$S 1000 better.
What i want to know is about the lag when panning and scrolling, because is practically the same hardware as the desire but the response in the desire is perfect.
Which games aren't suited for 384mb? is there a lot of difference? I don't plan to do hardcore gaming either. just some angry birds or something like that. I just want to get a good android experience like syncing, browsing, video, music, some drawing,etc.
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Thanks for the quick reply but did you read what i said? 1500 US dollars for the galaxy. I mean, I tried it. it's great, gorgeous, but to my pocket it's not U$S 1000 better.
What i want to know is about the lag when panning and scrolling, because is practically the same hardware as the desire but the response in the desire is perfect.
Which games aren't suited for 384mb? is there a lot of difference? I don't plan to do hardcore gaming either. just some angry birds or something like that. I just want to get a good android experience like syncing, browsing, video, music, some drawing,etc.
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If you wanna a solid long lasting device - buy X10. If you wanna play around with tech and change gadgets as fast as they appear at the market and go fashionable - don't buy X10. Simple.
SE is a kind of Rolls Royce here.
I want a solid lasting device but that kind of things are ceasing to exist, that's why i'm aiming to a high end right now which will be considered mid range in a year or too.
I like SE, my first phone was a K310 and only changed it when i got my G705(now flashed to W715).
But again, what i really want to know is if anyone here was able to use the X10 and compared it to a similar specs phone (Desire, N1, SGS, Milestone) and found the X10 considerably slower/laggier than the others, if it's something which was fixed in 2.1 or not at all.
I repeat: I want to get it, but want to be sure, but don't want to be disappointed.
...If you wanna play around with tech and change gadgets as fast as they appear at the market and go fashionable...
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As i said in the first post, i'm bound to what my carrier offers and right now the only high-end android it's the xperia. The smartphone market here it's very small at the moment, it's growing and the carriers are noticing it. But it's very much about iPhone, RIM and some Nokias (n95, 5230).
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[Q] Is X10 laggier than similars? (Planing to buy)
Thanks
Try to read this post ^_^
I don't have and haven't tried other phone you mention but my X10i is very responsive and can accommodate all my need. I play Angry birds, and even Pocket Legend. ^^
If you wait until after christmas, I can buy a new x10 or captivate/i9000m for you and ship it to you for under $600 (unlocked). Even with duties and whatnot, you should still come out paying a lot less!
I say AFTER Christmas because I don't feel like lining up at the post office
The I9000m is the model with a front facing camera (2cams) and FM radio built-in (the captivate doesn't have either of those), but the captivate is the better option for you. It is a bit more sturdy, isn't known to have a large failure rate for internal memory like the i9000m, and there are ROMs coming out the whazzuu for it Also this phone is silky smooth when cycling through backgrounds, meanwhile the x10 is limited to 32fps until somebody does something about it.
The X10 is the better option if you want an even more solid device, MUCH BETTER GPS (much much better), a notification LED, and camera LED and an overall better camera.
People did some tests in which showed the galaxy S camera is better in many types of light but if you fiddle with the manual settings, the X10 camera is considerably better!
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Try to read this post ^_^
I don't have and haven't tried other phone you mention but my X10i is very responsive and can accommodate all my need. I play Angry birds, and even Pocket Legend. ^^
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Thank you, can't wait to give it another try tomorrow at the store and with a lot of hope it performs right.
Have you seen any performance improvement since 1.6 or by removing SE apps?
I know i'm being too nitpicky but i can't stand even a half second lag when scrolling and swyping. I watched all the videos in yt and gsmarena and in 1.6 they always touch, stop and then slowly move the fingers like they have to wait for the phone to keep up, and even then the thing they're moving stays behind the finger... in 2.1 gets better but it's still not like desire.
That said i'd probably get it next week if nothing else is offered in the next few days.
Thank you again to all.
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Thank you, can't wait to give it another try tomorrow at the store and with a lot of hope it performs right.
Have you seen any performance improvement since 1.6 or by removing SE apps?
I know i'm being too nitpicky but i can't stand even a half second lag when scrolling and swyping. I watched all the videos in yt and gsmarena and in 1.6 they always touch, stop and then slowly move the fingers like they have to wait for the phone to keep up, and even then the thing they're moving stays behind the finger... in 2.1 gets better but it's still not like desire.
That said i'd probably get it next week if nothing else is offered in the next few days.
Thank you again to all.
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Of course there are performance improvement ( except Blurry in Call Pics T__T ). And improve even more if you applied optimizer like Jit for example. You could find the FAQ from my signature. ^^
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I want a solid lasting device but that kind of things are ceasing to exist,
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This is why I stick to SE. They keep this principle in their flagships. Not in budget models.
that's why i'm aiming to a high end right now which will be considered mid range in a year or too.
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I told you - it is a kind of Rolls Royce. Is 1950's Rolls Royce mid range model now? Ha! It costs more, than high end Toyota or Lexus. And actually runs better.
I like SE, my first phone was a K310 and only changed it when i got my G705(now flashed to W715).
But again, what i really want to know is if anyone here was able to use the X10 and compared it to a similar specs phone (Desire, N1, SGS, Milestone) and found the X10 considerably slower/laggier than the others, if it's something which was fixed in 2.1 or not at all.
I repeat: I want to get it, but want to be sure, but don't want to be disappointed.
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Even Swiss bank doesn't give any guarantees. Forget it. Take what you like more. And don't stick to specs - they says nothing. I used to post it in another thread, but it fits here too:
"I have maybe a little politically incorrect point of view on the cell phone (and other technical stuff) design. It is about the culture. Not about "don't littering", but about engineering. Ericsson (and Sony Ericsson) has pretty long history that gave them experience. HTC, Samsung, etc are relatively young and most of their problems are rooted there. Look - overall satisfaction for X10 without the last technology bells and whistles like OLED or multitouch is higher, than hi-tech-packed rival's devices. Why? Because according to the experience, they realize, that it is impossible to be perfect and it is better to concentrate to ergonomics issues. The device should be easy-to-use, foolproof and hard-to-break. That can be understood through the long experience of analyzing how it works through the life of the device. Typical life of Samsung is around a year. My friend changes around 5 or 6 phones (3 or 4 of them were Samsungs), when I used the same SE k790a. And it works fine for now. Another conclusion is to buy a flagship. Budget devices of any manufacturer always have issues. I know, all those galaxies are claimed to be top-models, flagships, bla-bla-bla. But I bet, some months of using reminds you my note about engineering experience."
As i said in the first post, i'm bound to what my carrier offers and right now the only high-end android it's the xperia. The smartphone market here it's very small at the moment, it's growing and the carriers are noticing it. But it's very much about iPhone, RIM and some Nokias (n95, 5230).
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It is globalization here, dude. You can buy anything you want at ebay, for example. And price won't be $1200 or something like this. If you want something you like, you should pay for that. My carrier is T-Mobile US and over years it has never had any phones I'd like to have, particularly no one SE flagship. So I bought them somewhere else. You are lucky - your carrier has X10, so take it. iPhone, as any Apple's creation, is traditionally overpriced and underdeveloped. RIM is too corporate-conservative, but has pretty good niche there. Nokia is done technologically until they wake up and forget their stoneaged Symbian, but they are budget-market monsters, you don't want them. And you forgot Motorola. From time to time they launch amazingly good devices.
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It is globalization here, dude. You can buy anything you want at ebay, for example. And price won't be $1200 or something like this. If you want something you like, you should pay for that.
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I'm talking about the price I can get it unlocked here, in Uruguay, where phones, pcs, cameras and tvs cost 2x the MSRP in the US, not the ebay or amazon price. It's very different the way in wich prices drop, in the US the prices stay at the MSRP for maybe 2 months and then they get great cuts. Here, if today the GalaxyS costs $1200 then one year from now it may keep at 1000. Oh, i love customs taxes!
Good thing is that if i buy it now i can sell it in a year for about the same price i'm getting it today.
*sigh!* Enough of third world depressing stories.
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You are lucky - your carrier has X10, so take it. iPhone, as any Apple's creation, is traditionally overpriced and underdeveloped. RIM is too corporate-conservative, but has pretty good niche there. Nokia is done technologically until they wake up and forget their stoneaged Symbian, but they are budget-market monsters, you don't want them. And you forgot Motorola. From time to time they launch amazingly good devices.
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Agree 100%. I'll probably get the X10.
Thanks
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I'm talking about the price I can get it unlocked here, in Uruguay, where phones, pcs, cameras and tvs cost 2x the MSRP in the US, not the ebay or amazon price. It's very different the way in wich prices drop, in the US the prices stay at the MSRP for maybe 2 months and then they get great cuts. Here, if today the GalaxyS costs $1200 then one year from now it may keep at 1000. Oh, i love customs taxes!
Good thing is that if i buy it now i can sell it in a year for about the same price i'm getting it today.
*sigh!* Enough of third world depressing stories.
Agree 100%. I'll probably get the X10.
Thanks
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Oops, I forgot about miracles of third, fourth and other worlds... It is so easy to accustom to good things and forget other realities... I know what you mean - my friends from Russia always ask me to buy something for them if they plan to go to the US. They are able to avoid taxes, when bring things with them. Post service in Russia is a complete disaster. If death could be delivered by mail, people would never die in Russia - it would be delivered after world's end or just stolen.
And bribes are always lower, than taxes. I bet you know that.
A great cosmic joke:
Went to my local Movistar decided to give the X10 another try.
Me: Hello, I'm interested in renewing my contract and i would like to see the X10 please. (in spanish and less formal of course)
Movistar Employee: no can do sir there's no stock until Jan 1st.
Me: oh cr%#p!
About the Post Service
Actually the post service here it's not bad at all, I receive books and blurays from amazon in about a week. But books, magazines,cds, dvds and blurays have no tax but everything else over $100 has $150 of tax + ~50% of the cost. So for buying something at $101 in the US I have to pay roughly $300. It's great!
I usually get my electronics in the US when someone close travels but no one is going to for a while.
What really matters
We're going off-topic here. plain and simple:
1- Is the X10 touchscreen as laggy as in YT videos or is there a way to fix it?(custom ROMs with Jit seen on YT are also affected)
2- Is it only on the home and unlock screen or also applications suffer from this? Someone said that fast games were unbearable because of the slow response.
3- Is it normal that when typing fast the device skips some tappings?
Pleeeease, I really like the X10 but i'll be stuck with it for 1-2 years and $500 will be stripped from my pocket. I know the overall experience is great but I need to have instant feedbak of what i'm doing. I'd hate to treat a supposed to be high end phone with capacitive screen like a low end one with resistive screen: press, then sloooowly move the finger to where you want, then when the object is where you want, (sure?) then release. Sense UI can do it, even in lower specs phones and even the other SE X8 and X10 mini do better.
Alright, flame me if i'm being an a$$ but i reaaally want to get an android phone and start playing with custom ROMs and be a contributing part to the community. I'll do it but someone pleeease honestly answer this questions first. The faster you answer, the faster i'll decide.
Thank you all
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A great cosmic joke:
Went to my local Movistar decided to give the X10 another try.
Me: Hello, I'm interested in renewing my contract and i would like to see the X10 please. (in spanish and less formal of course)
Movistar Employee: no can do sir there's no stock until Jan 1st.
Me: oh cr%#p!
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It reminds me old good Soviet time of total deficit: If you see something good, grab it first, then think if you need it.
Try Movistar's office somewhere in the middle of nowhere. I mean in low income areas - they still can have some expensive gadgets at shelves. Come on, I remember those tricks, but you use them in everyday life, like a gift for the salesman or just palms oiling.
About the Post Service
Actually the post service here it's not bad at all, I receive books and blurays from amazon in about a week. But books, magazines,cds, dvds and blurays have no tax but everything else over $100 has $150 of tax + ~50% of the cost. So for buying something at $101 in the US I have to pay roughly $300. It's great!
I usually get my electronics in the US when someone close travels but no one is going to for a while.
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I have a good news for you - buy your lovely X10 in parts that cheaper, than $100 and assemble them home. You'll proudly can have a sticker on it - "Hand made". It is a little complicated and risky, but you can ask your seller to claim that this device is out of order, for parts and cost less, than $100. And, of course, with two separate transactions.
What really matters
We're going off-topic here. plain and simple:
1- Is the X10 touchscreen as laggy as in YT videos or is there a way to fix it?(custom ROMs with Jit seen on YT are also affected)
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Never experienced this, but once the touchscreen overreacted at any touch and made some crazy things. I turned the phone off and after reboot it never happen again. Some lags can be in browser, but I think, it is not because of touchscreen, but partially downloaded pages. Same problem can be in YT videos since they are real time streams.
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Have no idea, not a gamer.
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I mentioned already overreaction - just before it went completely crazy, there was double and tripple typing errors. I tapped once, but it produced two or three taps - letters or backspaces. It was once and it doesn't look like regular specifically X10 problem. Out of extreems - maybe I type slow at the phone, but it works fine for me.
I tried my friend's LG enV Touch VX11000 - I hate it - requires hard press and pretty laggy. I had iPhone - it works almost the same for me as X10 - fast reaction of touchscreen and interface both.
Pleeeease, I really like the X10 but i'll be stuck with it for 1-2 years and $500 will be stripped from my pocket. I know the overall experience is great but I need to have instant feedbak of what i'm doing. I'd hate to treat a supposed to be high end phone with capacitive screen like a low end one with resistive screen: press, then sloooowly move the finger to where you want, then when the object is where you want, (sure?) then release. Sense UI can do it, even in lower specs phones and even the other SE X8 and X10 mini do better.
Alright, flame me if i'm being an a$$ but i reaaally want to get an android phone and start playing with custom ROMs and be a contributing part to the community. I'll do it but someone pleeease honestly answer this questions first. The faster you answer, the faster i'll decide.
Thank you all
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As you mention, every member of Xperia family works different, so I assume, that those differences are from the actual set of running programs and services. If you are going to play with custom ROMs, you always can modify your phone for faster work or for fancier view. I think, the X10 is the best hardware guinea pig for those purposes especially after the bootloader cracking.
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1- Is the X10 touchscreen as laggy as in YT videos or is there a way to fix it?(custom ROMs with Jit seen on YT are also affected)
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In my daily use I don't feel laggy. It's fast in my experience.
2- Is it only on the home and unlock screen or also applications suffer from this? Someone said that fast games were unbearable because of the slow response.
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Can you mention fast game here? I play pocket legend, angry birds.
3- Is it normal that when typing fast the device skips some tappings?
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Yes I experience it sometime when I haven't release my first finger but already press another key on the keyboard. But I think it will resolve when MT driver come to Rachael. ^_^
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There's no lag for me at all. But I use Startup Auditor and Advance Task killer when I first boot or reboot my X10. It's too fast that sometimes when I am slow to type, it will type two of the same letter before i can lift my finger on the keys...
My X10 doesn't lagg, it's fast. With and without JIT.
But with the snow live wallaper it laggs sometime on the homescreen, maybe because of Launcher Pro Plus...
But owners of the Desire posted the same I think.
Before I go into what I'm trying to propose here (if you haven't already guessed), let me say a few things and explain how I came to this idea.
I never owned a tablet, and I still don't. I'm waiting for the 32gb Nexus 10 to restock. So what I might say may or may be wrong because this is all based on observation from reading a bunch of reviews, user input, user criticism, and even fanboy hatred.
One of the biggest criticism from both reviewers and consumers with the Nexus 10 is the lack of tablet-optimized apps. But before I get bashed, let me state that I do know that apps upscale to the screen because Android apps are resolution independent unlike Apple apps. I am also aware that they don't look so bad most of the time and are very usable compared to when the Retina iPad came out and made its existing apps atrocious. I am very aware that this isn't much of a problem for a lot of you. But it is a problem for a lot of you as well.
The main thing is that it doesn't hurt to get tablet-optimized apps. No one is going be angry that they now have apps that look beautiful on their tablets.
Now what I'm trying to propose is that the Nexus 10 owners make it understood that they are unsatisfied with these current upscaled apps regardless of whether you are or aren't. App developers won't be bothered to add a tablet interface into these apps if no one asks for it in the first place, but consumer dissatisfaction is one of the biggest fears of many developers because if no one likes their apps, who's going to download them? Who's going to buy their apps if it has a 1 or 2 star in the market? Certainly not me and certainly not you.
I am not proposing that we drop app ratings to 1 or 2 star (impossible). I am proposing that there should be a sudden influx of downvotes to make it clear that people aren't satisfied with how things are. Downvoting it every so often will get diluted in the other votes. Maybe even sending emails to the developer could be effective.
Anyway, this is a suggestion/opinion. I'm open to discussion and disagreement. It can sound childish but I can't think of any way to show dissatisfaction. Hopefully there isn't any bashing and thanks for the read
It depends how many tablet uses there are that complain. It will probably be drowned out by the phone users giving it good reviews.
Developers can see how many tablet devices download their app. If that amount increased by quite a bit it might give them a bigger incentive to optimize their apps.
Basically we need the N10 and all other Android tablets to sell well to really get the developers attention.
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It depends how many tablet uses there are that complain. It will probably be drowned out by the phone users giving it good reviews.
Developers can see how many tablet devices download their app. If that amount increased by quite a bit it might give them a bigger incentive to optimize their apps.
Basically we need the N10 and all other Android tablets to sell well to really get the developers attention.
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I think there will be a great amount of N10 owners but I could be wrong. Judging from how fast the N10 sold out, I feel like it's going to sell pretty damn well even if it doesn't make record high sales.
The thing I wanted to do was make a list of apps that absolutely need some kind of tablet optimization. This thread is to raise some awareness and see if people are willing to join in.
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I think there will be a great amount of N10 owners but I could be wrong. Judging from how fast the N10 sold out, I feel like it's going to sell pretty damn well even if it doesn't make record high sales.
The thing I wanted to do was make a list of apps that absolutely need some kind of tablet optimization. This thread is to raise some awareness and see if people are willing to join in.
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The N10 is a look at the future. Though it will never sell in the mass millions, it will influence the market. Next-gen 10" tablets from Samsung, Asus, etc will be 2560x1600 too, midrange will be 1080p, and 1280x800 will be reserved for the low end and 7" market.
So a wise developer might want to get on the "HD" train early, so the apps are there and waiting for the more mainstream users when they pick one of those new devices up at Best Buy or Tesco, etc.
Which is of course what Google is hoping for.
Guys, please help me.
I want to go live on Instagram, transmitting the audio from my interface, with voice and guitar, through a Y cable, which I already do on my notebook.
I need a cell phone that would recognize audio capture via a Y cable, as the main source of capture.
The Motorola G5s phone, for example, does not recognize it.
Which devices would recognize an external audio signal (via Y cable) as standard, so that I can make musical lives with a decent sound on Instagram?
Which devices would suit me?
In the description of the technical specifications, what is the difference or characteristic to look for among so many devices?
Thank you all
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Guys, please help me.
I want to go live on Instagram, transmitting the audio from my interface, with voice and guitar, through a Y cable, which I already do on my notebook.
I need a cell phone that would recognize audio capture via a Y cable, as the main source of capture.
The Motorola G5s phone, for example, does not recognize it.
Which devices would recognize an external audio signal (via Y cable) as standard, so that I can make musical lives with a decent sound on Instagram?
Which devices would suit me?
In the description of the technical specifications, what is the difference or characteristic to look for among so many devices?
Thank you all
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If you're talking about a splitter cable (3.5 mm jack --> mic input and headphones input) I have it working on my Moto E 2015 LTE. But that device isn't good for live Instagram ( not enough power ).
There aren't any specs that say that, usually every phone does that.
So if you want a phone able to do that, take a phone you like, ask someone around you to test your Y cable on it and buy it if it works (it works for me with my OnePlus 8 with an OTG headphone jack, because the OP8 doesn't have a headphone jack)
Thanks, Raiz
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If you're talking about a splitter cable (3.5 mm jack --> mic input and headphones input) I have it working on my Moto E 2015 LTE. But that device isn't good for live Instagram ( not enough power ).
There aren't any specs that say that, usually every phone does that.
So if you want a phone able to do that, take a phone you like, ask someone around you to test your Y cable on it and buy it if it works (it works for me with my OnePlus 8 with an OTG headphone jack, because the OP8 doesn't have a headphone jack)
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Raiz, thank you so much.
The OnePlus 8 costs a lot more than i can afford right now.
So, 'i'm looking for a more popular model, do you know something about a more popular device which could fulfill my expectations? It has to have enough power and accept a external audio capture...
But thanks a lot.
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Raiz, thank you so much.
The OnePlus 8 costs a lot more than i can afford right now.
So, 'i'm looking for a more popular model, do you know something about a more popular device which could fulfill my expectations? It has to have enough power and accept a external audio capture...
But thanks a lot.
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I think a Xiaomi phone would fit your needs. Usually I don't recommend Chinese phones due to the growing concerns about privacy and spying (Xiaomi has already been caught doing so). But you'll find powerful devices for not much. I can also recommend you without any hesitation Pixel devices, LG and Motorola. Never been disappointed by those 3 so far. (There's the Pixel 4a coming soon at 359$, it's a sweet price for a very very very good phone!).
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Usually I don't recommend Chinese phones due to the growing concerns about privacy and spying (Xiaomi has already been caught doing so).
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My 2 cents:
The truth is that every phone spies on you to some extent, and most Android smartphones have security flaws related to the platform's relatively open software model.
AFAIK there's no public evidence as of yet that Chinese-made phones will endanger the privacy or digital security of the ordinary Non-China resident.
IMO bashing all the phones that are classified as "Chinese" is a little unfair. Almost all smartphones are manufactured in China, including phones designed and sold by Apple, Google and Samsung. And some Chinese brands, such as Xiaomi, OnePlus and Huawei, have good reputations.
Well, some Chinese-made phones have been caught sending a suspicious amount of data back to servers in China, if only for commercial reasons. But we all know each Windows computer does so, too. Mr Trump has not been bothered by this so far.
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My 2 cents:
The truth is that every phone spies on you to some extent, and most Android smartphones have security flaws related to the platform's relatively open software model.
AFAIK there's no public evidence as of yet that Chinese-made phones will endanger the privacy or digital security of the ordinary Non-China resident.
IMO bashing all the phones that are classified as "Chinese" is a little unfair. Almost all smartphones are manufactured in China, including phones designed and sold by Apple, Google and Samsung. And some Chinese brands, such as Xiaomi, OnePlus and Huawei, have good reputations.
Well, some Chinese-made phones have been caught sending a suspicious amount of data back to servers in China, if only for commercial reasons. But we all know each Windows computer does so, too. Mr Trump has not been bothered by this so far.
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I made a mistake showing my opinion by " I don't recommend", usually I just point the fact that there are trust issues, without saying what I recommend to do about Chinese phones.
Yes, every phone spies on you, and we accept that every time we download an app containing ad services, or when browsing the internet and accepting cookies.
Yes they have security flaws, corrected by regular security patches.
Case causing trust issues among Chinese "popular" phones:
Xiaomi: https://www.xda-developers.com/xiao...mint-collecting-browsing-data-incognito-mode/
Huawei (the most untrusted):
https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/u...ying-through-law-enforcement-backdoors-2020-2
Huawei 5G antennas: (ban in UK, will be banned in 2025 in France, Germany is discussing the question, as well as the European Union)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07...th-experts-warning-of-chinese-spying/12424608
OnePlus (I own one):
No serious stories yet...
Those are "out-of-privacpolicy" stories, but the privacy policy of OnePlus is very demanding, and sends a lot of data (hopefully custom ROMs are here to free me from those conditions).
The point of banning Huawei 5G from other countries is the proof that non-China resident are affected. Same for all others stories
Bashing Chinese phone is an opinion, and XDA isn't a place to bashing China and their politics. I made a mistake when writing that, usually I just say there are trust issues, but this time I said "I don't recommend", that's my opinion, and I try not to show it, just letting people know about those concerns.
China may manufacture phones, but it doesn't allows them to have any control on the data the phones will hold, the data is collected through internet on the company's servers, and the people who assembles phones aren't those who manipulate the user's data. User's data is the goal of companies nowadays, and is used by them to make profit with custom ads.
Those brands have a good reputation only because they sells good phones at a cheap price, not because they're trustworthy (see articles above, this is why I don't buy Xiaomi or Huawei, good phones but not trustworthy).
Data is sent back maybe for commercial reasons, so does Google and every other brands these days, it's not a threat, the threat is that other kind of data could be sent under the label "commercial profile" when really it's spying, spy on scientific research, on classified data processed on the device (emails, documents, ...). Here's the threat.
America may spy on its people, but if it's uncovered, their surely will be demonstrations and other social movements. In China nothing will be said or done (and it's not the fault of Chinese people, you know whose it is).
E.g: George Floyd Government reaction Vs Hong Kong Government reaction... (It's getting political sorry about that)
And privacy with Americans brands are way more user-controled (Google dashboard for example, plus the option to opt-out from aimed advertisement,...)
As I said, Chinese phone's privacy policy is way heavier, and is a huge con when buying them.
Huawei, Xiaomi, OnePlus... make cheap devices and they're really good, I can't deny it. But since there is a really good amount of concerns about Chinese brands in the world right now, I feel important to notice people about it. I'll try to be more neutral about it next time.
And small poke to XDA and Huawei, when Huawei try to force its way into the community, they get so bashed that threads are locked to avoid that to happen.
Quick reminder: XDA Portal team is in no way involved with Huawei, it's their Commercials team that was recently renamed "Team XDA" (Previous Name was "XDA Commercial Team" )which seemed not fair since we can't tell it's commercial right away, and which is why I poke jokes.
Sorry, XDA isn't the place to debate about politics, but I needed to address my mistake (and this post will most likely be referred to as my statement about why I point out trust issues with Chinese phones)
Have a good one
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I think a Xiaomi phone would fit your needs. Usually I don't recommend Chinese phones due to the growing concerns about privacy and spying (Xiaomi has already been caught doing so). But you'll find powerful devices for not much. I can also recommend you without any hesitation Pixel devices, LG and Motorola. Never been disappointed by those 3 so far. (There's the Pixel 4a coming soon at 359$, it's a sweet price for a very very very good phone!).
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Raiz,
Thank you once again for your kind attention.
I have noticed that here are versions of Android. My Moto G5s is version 8.1.0, and this phone does not accept external audio caption. Could it be that higher versions would serve me as far as accepting external audio capture? In this case, from which version is it possible to rely on?
When we talk about power, what would be a devices's specs for 'enough power' to make lives? Meaning, how can i identify the power of a device in its specs?
Thanks a lot for your concern about the privacy thing.
In my vision we are all hostages and there is nothing to do about it, but just flow with the music the parasites, owners of the oligarchic system, are making. Terrible music. But this too, shall pass. For now let's dance to this rhythm. :fingers-crossed:
Thanks so much once again.
Best :laugh: