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Called T-mobile earlier today to change my number, I do so every 3 months, and asked the Rep. on the phone if she could give me any info on our beloved P769. (Specifically the next software update from 10g, hopefully unlocking the bootloader. ) I am a self proclaimed amateur developer, a ROM junkie, and a soft/hard brick - unbrick Guru. I do not hide the fact that I root every device I've ever had and I make it a issue to educate the kind folks at T-Mobile every chance I get. HOWEVER, the girl I spoke with today took a stand against my radical love of root and claimed T-Mobile is supporting LG 110% in the fight to keep my P769.10g's bootloader `difficult` to access. Oh she rekindled a raging fire deep within that's laid dormant since my G2X. LG has become a company that prides itself in inaccessible devices in open source environment. These fools are the Daewoo of smart phones. The writing is on the wall. Samsung here I come.
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Please keep in mind that you were speaking to a general care rep...she has no authority to make any decisions relating to software updates.
I live in a city where we have two T-Mobile call centers...I worked there in the tier 3 tech support for a brief time...there are tons of people who work there who have rooted phones, there is even a section of their internal web forum devoted to rooting devices.
Call it what you will, or jump ship to another device...but don't buy a mid level phone and whine about it.
...I happen to be quite pleased with the performance of mine running rooted 10g, I have about 85-90 apps installed and haven't had to swap memory (many of you install games...not my thing). This phone runs quicker and more reliable than many of my other phones have.
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Called T-mobile earlier today to change my number, I do so every 3 months, and asked the Rep. on the phone if she could give me any info on our beloved P769. (Specifically the next software update from 10g, hopefully unlocking the bootloader. ) I am a self proclaimed amateur developer, a ROM junkie, and a soft/hard brick - unbrick Guru. I do not hide the fact that I root every device I've ever had and I make it a issue to educate the kind folks at T-Mobile every chance I get. HOWEVER, the girl I spoke with today took a stand against my radical love of root and claimed T-Mobile is supporting LG 110% in the fight to keep my P769.10g's bootloader `difficult` to access. Oh she rekindled a raging fire deep within that's laid dormant since my G2X. LG has become a company that prides itself in inaccessible devices in open source environment. These fools are the Daewoo of smart phones. The writing is on the wall. Samsung here I come.
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unbrick guruyou must be long time member of xda then. why opened new account and made this 1st post. Just curious!!!
EDIT: You spoke with T-mobile which is not LG. LG has nothing to do with policies and terms of TMO. You are only unfortunate that in your country, L9 is not directly sold by LG.
As fat as representatives on desk are concerned, they are also not from LG, even if it is authorized service centers of LG phones. Service centers are mostly local franchisees of companies who just provide service. Their opinion does not mean anything and not official LG's opinion.
"As fat as" lmao. You guys are so sewious. Could you not detect the sarcasm thru the staccato key strokes? Hmm? Refocus. Why isn't this a 4g device? Come on guys its Monday lighten up. I beat cancer I'll beat 10g . Enjoy.
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This is xda, this is the place to be serious
Please don't post if you don't know.
Right now tmobile could be working on the jellybean release or they could leave our variant where it is but either way hearsay helps no one.
it's definitely not worth flaming a call center rep over either. Generally help desk work is a thankless job and it sounds like you were just rude to some poor soul over nothing
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**** you mike
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It's frustrating that there isn't an official form of communication from carriers on this sort of thing. If T-mobile simply had a FAQ for each phone that actually laid out their view on things, like:
yes we hope to roll out a JB update at some point in the future that will include an unlocked bootloader
no, we are not working on a JB update at this time
We wouldn't have to look at these customer support interactions and decide if there's any merit to them.
The jokes on T-Mobile anyway. Some of us already have unlocked boot loader on P769.
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Pointless thread.
Hi everybody i made this topic just for share what we know about android 8 for G6 like release date futures news and... about android oreo for G6 plz share what u know tnx
I heard that probably would be in january , but not even a word from lg...
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I heard that probably would be in january , but not even a word from lg...
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Hearing it and not from LG probably means that we still have no info at all on this, just some random G6 spotted in benchmarks...
3. useless spam topic ....
I've somewhere it will come end November. On a Turkish website , if I find the link I'll put it here. It's 23/11 still no info nor te update. So I guess it's wrong info [emoji24]
Edit:https://www.lgdestek.net/lg-android-8-0-oreo-guncellemesi-alacak-telefonlar-belli-oldu-37845/
Wysłane z mojego LG-H870 przy użyciu Tapatalka
Well, for being one of the first to roll out updates, LG is dropping the ball.
OnePlus and Nokia are rolling out updates.
Essential and Samsung has betas
And LG has said nothing. Continuing disappointment.
That's what I got from LG via email:
"Thank you for contacting LG Customer Service in regards to your LG G6 phone.*
I have taken a look into your query and as of yet, we currently do not have any time frames or exact dates for when Android 8.0 will be released. We are testing on older models to see if it is compatable. However we have no information to give at this current point in time.*
I know this probably was not the answer you were expecting but as soon as we have any details regarding this, we will be more than happy to inform you!*"
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That's what I got from LG via email:
"Thank you for contacting LG Customer Service in regards to your LG G6 phone.*
I have taken a look into your query and as of yet, we currently do not have any time frames or exact dates for when Android 8.0 will be released. We are testing on older models to see if it is compatable. However we have no information to give at this current point in time.*
I know this probably was not the answer you were expecting but as soon as we have any details regarding this, we will be more than happy to inform you!*"
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Seems like this is the generic answer they provide to anyone who asks about the Oreo update
Exactly the same answer was sent to another user (ant78) from the LG V30 forum. I wouldn't be relaying on Customer Service of any mobile manufacturer... Similar type of answers I was getting back in the days when I had Samsung Galaxy S2. Turned out that two days later I got an update, where Customer Service had no specified date for the update
btw. Korean LG V30 got the Oreo update today
Well, LG just released the Oreo beta for the V30 and V30+ in Korea, and has previously said the final version will come in December, so hopefully that's good news for the G6 getting the update in a timely manner
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-android-oreo-beta-lg-v30-korea/
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Well, LG just released the Oreo beta for the V30 and V30+ in Korea, and has previously said the final version will come in December, so hopefully that's good news for the G6 getting the update in a timely manner
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-android-oreo-beta-lg-v30-korea/
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It depends on what the timely manner means
Some of the sources like Androidauthority mentioned about having Oreo on G6 around October/November. It's almost the end of November and I doubt we'll see the update anytime soon
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Well, LG just released the Oreo beta for the V30 and V30+ in Korea, and has previously said the final version will come in December, so hopefully that's good news for the G6 getting the update in a timely manner
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-android-oreo-beta-lg-v30-korea/
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If you're phone is carrier locked, there is no warranty you will receive Oreo. For example Videotron in Canada are used to block updates.
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If you're phone is carrier locked, there is no warranty you will receive Oreo. For example Videotron in Canada are used to block updates.
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Seriously?!?
This kind of practice should be denied! I think it's already a big mess with all those carriers and manufacturers who can't keep up with updating phones to the latest versions of Android. And I'm not saying about every device, but even flagship phones... which is a joke.
Ok I understand that it requires a lot of work (sometimes) to port, test and test new Android version, but I can't understand how come some of the phones are not getting security patches. LG seems to be a good example of this mess... H870 is stuck on July security update and we are almost at the end of the year
I wish all the phones were getting as quickly as Nexus/Pixels are getting... I wish I wish I wish...
The 'porting and testing' of a new android version by a carrier is, more often than not, just a case of adding some unwanted apps to the system.
The excuse of thorough testing is just an excuse for 'can't be bothered' just yet.
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bobsie41 said:
The 'porting and testing' of a new android version by a carrier is, more often than not, just a case of adding some unwanted apps to the system.
The excuse of thorough testing is just an excuse for 'can't be bothered' just yet.
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I totally agree with you. Updating software on already sold phones will not bring carriers new money, so not point in investing time and money into that. It's better to come up with new commercials, so people will buy more units.
In my opinion same story holds for the manufacturers who need to/want to grab as many users as they can, hence they put most of the effort into developing new models.
Was hoping to receive the update before Nov. ended but here we are. I at least hope something does come...
I'd be really freaking excited if the update drops this month.
Update 19 December 2017:
I've just updated through LG Bridge. I have come to following conclusions:
- My data, media and apps still exist. Nothing deleted
- Bridge will download massive 3GB of firmware
- Bridge didn't like my wifi so I used my neighbor wifi that downloaded the firmware successfully. However I don't know why I got server error at my own wifi
- I can't see any changes. Just a november patch which is still better than July
So I got this response from LG:
This is a staff of LG Product Security Response Team(LG PSRT).
First of all, we apologize for late security patch.
As I know, the latest version (for European) is also July.
According to our dedicated team, there will be a security patch for your LG G6 H870 within the end of December.
Thanks for your patience.
Regards,
LG PSRT
What does that even mean? Which security patch will we receive? Any mention of Android 8?
Security patch: August
What a ****ing excuse!I really miss my Nexus 6P...camera..software...updates...
I think i'm going to sell my G6 after Christmas.. Will buy a Xiaomi Mi A1!
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what a ****ing excuse!i really miss my nexus 6p...camera..software...updates...
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yesssssssss
I had better update experience using my previous old Galaxy S6.
H870 - European Update=scifi...
don't panic, guys
i think the next update wil be oreo
Syrop said:
don't panic, guys
i think the next update wil be oreo
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Ohh good that "you think" it will be oreo. That's a relief
Yeah, the LG updates is kinda a joke. The hardware is good and all, but we're still running the same 7.0 that it was launched with some 9 months ago. I'm just waiting for stable LOS.
As I said, very nice! I'd actually been missing those icons.
Would you consider making a version with the Nexus grey background instead of all black as well? While keeping the icons and the accent color.
Oh, and if you do, I wouldn't mind seeing a slight background change for the separator row in the settings. Just like the default white theme handles it, but in a dark grey of course.
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As I said, very nice! I'd actually been missing those icons.
Would you consider making a version with the Nexus grey background instead of all black as well? While keeping the icons and the accent color.
Oh, and if you do, I wouldn't mind seeing a slight background change for the separator row in the settings. Just like the default white theme handles it, but in a dark grey of course.
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ummmm...
Syrop said:
don't panic, guys
i think the next update wil be oreo
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dont panic???? Just check blueborn and krank on your phone kid...
I frakk oreo i want monthly security patch.Most important.I want use bank app and nfc ,etc...NOW NOT SAFE!
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Haha I know, wrong thread. Mobile messup. ?
Oreo on LG in 2017 ? impossible
but August security patch ! probably
I'm wondering if anyone from LG read this thread
So many happy people here who wait for August security update in December.
In think we should be happy in the end of the day. Oreo? C'mon if you want it, go to some grocery store and get it [emoji3]
Nordic LG G6 updates
Well I just asked LG Finnish customer service why the security updates are still at july 1st on my LG G6 that I bought a week ago. My 2+ years old phone I switched from had newer security updates.
First response was basically "unfortunately we dont know this as Google is responsible for the updates... Please inquire Google about this."
When I complained about this and pointed them to LG's own website at (cannot post links yet)
https lgsecurity.lge.com/security_updates.html
I got a snarky reply saying that as I can probably read from the page the updates are irregular at some regions etc.
And that getting updates in Finland means all the Nordic countries and their operators have to test the update first before its released here.
They said an update is coming, but did not specify "which" update. Blah. Not very good customer service either.
Like Sony Phones I swear I will add LG to the not buy list in the future Permanently. I'm responsible for the Hardware buying here at our company and we have removed LG also for now. Next year we will be upgrading to Motorola as they seems to fulfill our budget and security updates
Oniska said:
Like Sony Phones I swear I will add LG to the not buy list in the future Permanently. I'm responsible for the Hardware buying here at our company and we have removed LG also for now. Next year we will be upgrading to Motorola as they seems to fulfill our budget and security updates
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Bad choice they are just as bad if not worse than LG.
I noticed that the unlock procedures for TMo-G6 (H872) don't work, and the LG Developers Site does not list the Canadian model (H873) as supported for their unlock.bin production. Anyone know how to unlock the bootloader on a Canadian LG-G6, or is there some rule saying I can't?
If it's not listed on the LG site, you don't.
it will never happen
Just curious... why does LG hate Canada? Some geopolitical stuff us southerners don't see?
What does that have to do with canada? Everything but EU and US is unable to unlock.
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Just curious... why does LG hate Canada? Some geopolitical stuff us southerners don't see?
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I think it's more of a control issue; LG likes to keep track of unlocks and has a weird online proprietary system for it. If they make unlocks for every single model available with their current system, they have to process way more unlocks through their website and I imagine they just don't want to do that. They put an annoying amount of effort into trying to control their platform. There's non-US997 models sold here in the states, including AS993 (the most common one you'll find on ebay) and they don't get unlocks either. It really sucks.
Luckily, people almost always find ways to get around these things and LG's lost this fight many times before but it's still frustrating.
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I noticed that the unlock procedures for TMo-G6 (H872) don't work, and the LG Developers Site does not list the Canadian model (H873) as supported for their unlock.bin production. Anyone know how to unlock the bootloader on a Canadian LG-G6, or is there some rule saying I can't?
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You cannot unlock the bootloader for H873. I don't think there will ever be an exploit given the phone is more than two years old. Anyways in my experience this device is good even without rooting. You could hide the app that you don't use or go a step further and uninstall/hide using adb shell. This is uninstall even system apps from the user. I have uninstalled all system apps that I don't need. Also using 1) Blockada for ad blocking 2) AOSP Launcher (Google Launcher modded) 3) Gcam
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Anyways in my experience this device is good even without rooting
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Agreed. I was trying to install a linux chroot on it. I eventually found UserLAnd and that served my needs without root. Was still curious why Canada didn't push LG for unlock rights like the EU and US. In the US this kinda stuff made it to our high court in something called "right to repair". A tractor company (of all things) encrypted there control firmware and some farmers had figured out out to bypass it to "root" the tractor. This allowed farmers to repair the tractor on site instead of paying thousands to ship it from the farm to a tractor dealership. Anyway, tractor company tried to prosecute under an old DVD encryption law and it landed in our supreme court. Tractor company lost.
Weird that a DVD law used tractor company allows us to unlock phones.
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Also using 1) Blockada for ad blocking 2) AOSP Launcher (Google Launcher modded) 3) Gcam
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OT: Which version of Gcam do you use? AFAICS it is available for various manufacturers but not LG.
Oh, and kudos for mentioning Blockada!
hello_world.c said:
OT: Which version of Gcam do you use? AFAICS it is available for various manufacturers but not LG.
Oh, and kudos for mentioning Blockada!
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1) https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-night-sight-lg-g6-v20-v30-v35/
2) https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-cstark27/
3) https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77522163&postcount=1355
Anybody think we'll get some kind of update pushed out allowing us to unlock our bootloader now that lg wont be making phones anymore?
I'm honestly surprised no one has chimed in. At all. These are some great phones. Being able to root and customize would make this phone a ton better. But I don't think lg cares at all.
I wouldn't count on it, personally. I'm frankly surprised that they've committed to 2-3 major OS upgrades (or as many years of support) for their post-2019 flagships as is, like our V60. I think that, beyond I suppose a renewed focus on their software update department, they're just going to completely wash their hands with mobile. And I still think they'll ultimately fail us on that promise of 2 to 3 years of software support. With no more active R&D and development on new devices and their software, we can probably completely rule out refreshed UIs and just expect bi-monthly security updates, maybe Android 12 on our V60s, and perhaps Android 13 on the Wings and Velvets. If that. I'm still extremely skeptical.
Edit - Edited to fix the supposed final Android versions for the V60s, Velvets, Wings, etc.
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I wouldn't count on it, personally. I'm frankly surprised that they've committed to 2-3 major OS upgrades (or as many years of support) for their post-2019 flagships as is, like our V60. I think that, beyond I suppose a renewed focus on their software update department, they're just going to completely wash their hands with mobile. And I still think they'll ultimately fail us on that promise of 2 to 3 years of software support. With no more active R&D and development on new devices and their software, we can probably completely rule out refreshed UIs and just expect bi-monthly security updates, maybe Android 11 on our V60s, and perhaps Android 12 on the Wings and Velvets. If that. I'm still extremely skeptical.
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We do hace android 11 for V60, at least TMobile model. I wouldnt bet on A12 though. They should release bootloader code and what not though so we can at least get a bootloader unlock and aim for custom roms and such. Just because there backing out of the smartphone business now dosent mean there isnt a chance for comeback later. If they just screw everyone completely right now there not only ruining chances of a future comeback but also ruining there already bad name.
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We do hace android 11 for V60, at least TMobile model. I wouldnt bet on A12 though. They should release bootloader code and what not though so we can at least get a bootloader unlock and aim for custom roms and such. Just because there backing out of the smartphone business now dosent mean there isnt a chance for comeback later. If they just screw everyone completely right now there not only ruining chances of a future comeback but also ruining there already bad name.
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Yeah, I'm on AT&T and got A11 a couple of updates back. I too would be shocked to get A12 as well, though it sounds like they're at least planning on supporting the V60 that long. They have no real interest in catering to folks who jailbreak or root, as that makes up an infinitesimally small part of their potential demographic. In other words, catering to folks like us that post to forums like this isn't going to be any kind of factor for them in the short-term or long-term future, IMO. We are not the audience that makes or breaks their mobile business, and we never will be. As for the post you quoted, I meant to say "maybe Android 12 on our V60s, and Android 13 on the Velvets and Wings." (stress on the "maybe). I'll fix that post.
I would love to see it, but I will not hold my breath. Would provide a great deal of goodwill toward the company.