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I ended up talking to a phone tester that works for LG here in San Diego. She's from South Korea, she deals directly with corporate in Seoul and translates for them. I told her my V10 is a glitchy freakhouse and that it was all her fault.
She said they know that a certain percentage of the phones are defective with overheating, GPS failure and other issues. She didnt tell me what percentage though so not sure how wide reaching this is. I realize that missing fact makes this a little less valuable info but I thought it was interesting enough to share.
No product is perfect. I've dodge most of the issues I see here in the forum, only heating issue I had was trying the set up a email with Exchange server.
Like you said a number would be interesting. Did she indicate it was a hardware or software issue?
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Like you said a number would be interesting. Did she indicate it was a hardware or software issue?
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Don't even fall for that crap.
I am with my third V10, all of them with dead píxels and screen issues...LG quality control is a joke.
jbraft said:
No product is perfect. I've dodge most of the issues I see here in the forum, only heating issue I had was trying the set up a email with Exchange server.
Like you said a number would be interesting. Did she indicate it was a hardware or software issue?
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She didnt and wouldnt know and I'll tell you why. She explained their process. The testers just sit in an office and play with the phones, they dont use them in their daily lives. Then they send all issues to LG R&D who are supposed to diagnose and fix the issues.
Maybe they have other people doing more in-depth desting, I dont know but she is a contract employee of LG.
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I'm not sure what your intention is here but if we dont bring things like this to light then we're not doing anything to help all the people who are getting bad GPS, dead pixels, etc. that is screwing up their daily lives and causing a ton of hassle. I'm not an activist but I'm also not going to completely ignore it when this phone got me all excited, cost me $700 and then turned out to screw up my week and waste a bunch of my time.
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I am with my third V10, all of them with dead píxels and screen issues...LG quality control is a joke.
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Yup, I agree. I'm going to return the one I have today or tomorrow. I want this phone to work so bad. I might try a new one, one more time.
Yea, not sure if its true but I have read in many forums how phones don't work properly out of the box and most were fixed by doing a reset on the phone. The first V10 I had was great except for WiFi. I get over 100 Mbps at home and every device gets the same speed. However, the V10 was reaching 10 Mbps...after the reset it worked great and speed was up. I did end up exchanging for a new one (just to make sure I had a good phone, why I got to do a reset to fix a new phone) and the new V10 is great, out of the box. I get GPS lock quick, great WiFi and no lag.
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She didnt and wouldnt know and I'll tell you why. She explained their process. The testers just sit in an office and play with the phones, they dont use them in their daily lives. Then they send all issues to LG R&D who are supposed to diagnose and fix the issues.
Maybe they have other people doing more in-depth desting, I dont know but she is a contract employee of LG.
I'm not sure what your intention is here but if we dont bring things like this to light then we're not doing anything to help all the people who are getting bad GPS, dead pixels, etc. that is screwing up their daily lives and causing a ton of hassle. I'm not an activist but I'm also not going to completely ignore it when this phone got me all excited, cost me $700 and then turned out to screw up my week and waste a bunch of my time.
Yup, I agree. I'm going to return the one I have today or tomorrow. I want this phone to work so bad. I might try a new one, one more time.
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Since english is not my primary language I will do an extraordinary effort to do this...I've passed for 4 V10's already. I was waiting by 9.00am October the 30th to get this wonderful device LG announced that hit every single check mark that I always wanted in a smartphone. My first impressions should've sufficed cause the first one they brought was scratched out of the box, yes, the metal bands were scratched, so obviously I asked for another and that one was ok at least on he outside.
After less than a month I started to notice some weird behavior when displaying some content with the brightness maxed to 100%...dead pixels everywhere( I made a post). I exchanged that unit to and to make the story short I am with my 4th V10(counting the scratched one) and this one has "only" one dead pixel(or an array cause I don't think we can spot one pixel on this devices with our bare eyes) with no other issues so am keeping it fighting my OCD every time I think about it. I don't want to call T-Mo again and put another exchange request cause I know it will come with dead pixels and/or other more problematic issues.
LG quality control is a joke, at this price point dead pixels policy should be 0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/help/how-lg-t3264290/page2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/help/dead-pixels-everywhere-t3263826
i have a lot of dead pixels and experiencing image retention issues. can someone help me? i dont know what to do.
Same here.
I have around 8 dead pixels on my phone, and my phone has guaranty but after contacting with guaranty they said only can repair and replace my phone lcd with another one.
SHAME ON YOU LG ???
I only see people complaining about phones bought from USA operators/stores, none bought on Amazon or other countries, I wonder
I bought my v10 on launch from vzw. No issues since day 1. Everything is spot on including the fingerprint sensor.
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I bought my v10 on launch from vzw. No issues since day 1. Everything is spot on including the fingerprint sensor.
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I suspect most of the "complaints" are propaganda from the competition
For complaints. Try a different brand if your not happy with LG. Make both you and LG happy, and move on.
I have had my V10 since December (from T-Mobile). Initially no problems to report, but the image retention issue has become progressively worse (as I type this, the image of this site is being temporarily "burned in"), and the GPS has only recently been failing to connect for navigation. my father also got a V10 the same day, but does not report these issues. User activity may be leading to a faster declining lifespan of phone, but both phones have had a drastic increase in overheating since receiving the Marshmallow update, which may be playing a role in the even greater descent into decomposition.
I've been a big fan of LG phones for years, but the V10 may not be able to keep up with the demand (I'm 19, so like most millennials, I use my phone constantly-possibly why I have this issue)
So my LG V10 has been perfect from day one. Now lets assume that every post on this thread is factual.
Then all we can do is say sorry it was you that got the bad phone, if you add all the posts here it's still less the half a percent bad phones, that's a pretty good number.
This thread is for those who have received their note 7 and are returning it due to battery issue or other issues like build quality, screen scratching easily, lag etc
I'm still on pre-order and no sign of stock but i checked on CPW website uk and its stating date of 21st Oct.
Also those who like me still waiting for phone. I'm really considering cancelling my order and wait for Iphone 7 plus, Google pixel xl, Moto Z, LG V20 I hate it when a top end phone lags or isn't buttery smooth.
Would be interesting to know if you're waiting for replacement and how long is the wait? Also if change of mind and y and what will you purchase instead?
I'm in the uk BTW.
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This thread is for those who have received their note 7 and are returning it due to battery issue or other issues like build quality, screen scratching easily, lag etc
I'm still on pre-order and no sign of stock but i checked on CPW website uk and its stating date of 21st Oct.
I'm really considering cancelling my order and wait for Iphone 7 plus, Google phone, Moto Z. I hate it when a top end phone lags or isn't buttery smooth.
I've not found any issues since i haven't received it.
Would be interesting to know if you're waiting for replacement and how long is the wait? Also if change of mind and y and what will you purchase instead?
I'm in the uk BTW.
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I'm returning mine because of the battery. I've found the phone to be excellent with absolutely no lag or stutter. In fact I'd go as far as go say it's smoother than my Nexus 6P which had thermal throttling performance problems. I'm waiting for a replacement from Samsung as this is the phone of the year for me. I believe the Exynos version the UK has is more fluent than the US Snapdragon version. Samsung told me it was a minimum of 3 weeks for a replacement.
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Another interesting point, some who have tried to return product have been told to keep the phone until replacement. This includes amazon and cpw the reason I believe none of the retailers are willing to take the risk of a potential fire in their premises. Imagine having hundreds or even thousands of these phones just waiting to set on fire. Just in case if anyone was wondering.
Amazon is issuesing refunds and asking their customers to keep the phone until further notice, might be the case for some lucky buyers get refund and get to keep phone.
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Another interesting point, some who have tried to return product have been told to keep the phone until replacement. This includes amazon and cpw the reason I believe none of the retailers are willing to take the risk of a potential fire in their premises. Imagine having hundreds or even thousands of these phones just waiting to set on fire. Just in case if anyone was wondering.
Amazon is issuesing refunds and asking their customers to keep the phone until further notice, might be the case for some lucky buyers get refund and get to keep phone.
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CPW have changed their position today, automated message advises to contact Samsung for a replacement, however, when I got through the advisor said they actually want the phone back immediately due to the fire risk.
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CPW have changed their position today, automated message advises to contact Samsung for a replacement, however, when I got through the advisor said they actually want the phone back immediately due to the fire risk.
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That makes sense must have deliberated between lawyers as who would be liable etc.
Risk of fire is probably very low but not worth taking risk.
all other competitors will be loving it especially apple, this all plays nicely into the hands of Apple. What timing.
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I'm returning mine because of the battery. I've found the phone to be excellent with absolutely no lag or stutter. In fact I'd go as far as go say it's smoother than my Nexus 6P which had thermal throttling performance problems. I'm waiting for a replacement from Samsung as this is the phone of the year for me. I believe the Exynos version the UK has is more fluent than the US Snapdragon version. Samsung told me it was a minimum of 3 weeks for a replacement.
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That's interesting no lag or stutter at all, smoother then nexus 6p. I must admit I do find that hard to believe however if what you say is accurate then I could give it more thought.
I wonder if anyone else has found it buttery smooth.
im still waiting for my preorder. #TeamFinland #LateAf... Jesus christ i just want my note man.. been waiting for ages and everybody else already got it. Im already getting over the hype lol.
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That's interesting no lag or stutter at all, smoother then nexus 6p. I must admit I do find that hard to believe however if what you say is accurate then I could give it more thought.
I wonder if anyone else has found it buttery smooth.
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Yes, my 6P feels slow in comparison to the Note 7 (Exynos).
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Yes, my 6P feels slow in comparison to the Note 7 (Exynos).
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I'll have to see this to believe it, the unit i tested in CPW stuttered lag. Even the reviewers on youtube all suggest there is lag.
I hate lag also and my Note 7 is great, I see no lag or stutter, no overheating. It runs great. I was worried about Touchwiz but it's fine.
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I hate lag also and my Note 7 is great, I see no lag or stutter, no overheating. It runs great. I was worried about Touchwiz but it's fine.
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This will be a first if there's absolutely no stutter or lag in note 7. Still not convinced as every Samsung phone I've owned has shown lag.
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That's interesting no lag or stutter at all, smoother then nexus 6p. I must admit I do find that hard to believe however if what you say is accurate then I could give it more thought.
I wonder if anyone else has found it buttery smooth.
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Mine also is smooth as silk, its a great phone, i'll wait for a new one. I gave my details to samsung customer care yesterday. I also kept my old phone, while i wait, i change the option of fast charging to off. Also i charge phone when i am awake and keep a eye on it. Honesty it doesn't even heat up while charging. I also sometimes shut it off when charging sometimes. I am not worried that it will catch fire. I think the ones that have a problem would show symptoms, just like us when we have problems we have symptoms!
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Mine also is smooth as silk, its a great phone, i'll wait for a new one. I gave my details to samsung customer care yesterday. I also kept my old phone, while i wait, i change the option of fast charging to off. Also i charge phone when i am awake and keep a eye on it. Honesty it doesn't even heat up while charging. I also sometimes shut it off when charging sometimes. I am not worried that it will catch fire. I think the ones that have a problem would show symptoms, just like us when we have problems we have symptoms!
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Agreed, there's just no lag or stutter. It's the first time I've seen it on a Touchwiz phone. It flys.
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Agreed, there's just no lag or stutter. It's the first time I've seen it on a Touchwiz phone. It flys.
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yes agree, i had a note 3, 4 (long time) and short time with a 5, but note 7 is in another category all together in the way it operates. I didn't use touch wiz because i have been always using Nova with no animation. I really like this phone it's beautiful to look at great in the hand and works without fault.....
I'm debating. Dropped mine today from about a foot onto tile and the screen shattered. Using a Spigen neo hybrid too... I'm so torn. Love the Note, but wtf!
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I'm debating. Dropped mine today from about a foot onto tile and the screen shattered. Using a Spigen neo hybrid too... I'm so torn. Love the Note, but wtf!
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Thats a real bummer!!! Good news i would think it is still covered for a replacement! But according to corning glass it could happen 20% of the time and 80% it should be ok. maybe the angle it hits the ground and surface. I for sure have no expertise in these matters...But i feel for you and all of us that invested in this phone....we shouldn't be experiments for these large companies to test their products!
I returned for a refund and now am back using my Note5. But I will rebuy the Note7 once I am sure the battery issue is fixed.
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That's interesting no lag or stutter at all, smoother then nexus 6p. I must admit I do find that hard to believe however if what you say is accurate then I could give it more thought.
I wonder if anyone else has found it buttery smooth.
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Super smooth after disabling bloat and adjusting animation
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How did Samsung mess up? Its a developing story and they responded as soon as they could. Do some of you sit anxiously waiting to catch your next breath??????
They've identified the issue within a couple of days and are working on a resolution plan which is why they are saying they'll contact us in the next week once stock and plans are understood!
The problem has been the messages coming from retailers and we all know they are full of sh.. just to get you off the phone!
Give them time. I'd rather this was managed that rushed with mistakes.
If you fancy an iphone then what are you doing on Android waiting for the note7. If you jump to the LG...good luck there. I've never even seen v10 in the UK! And how do you know they won't have an unlucky problem...**** happens
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Another interesting point, some who have tried to return product have been told to keep the phone until replacement. This includes amazon and cpw the reason I believe none of the retailers are willing to take the risk of a potential fire in their premises. Imagine having hundreds or even thousands of these phones just waiting to set on fire. Just in case if anyone was wondering.
Amazon is issuesing refunds and asking their customers to keep the phone until further notice, might be the case for some lucky buyers get refund and get to keep phone.
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Do phones catch fire when turned off?
I'm sure the real reason for leaving phones with customers until exchange is that they know the risk is low so why inconvenience customers by taking their phones off them and potentially leaving them without and at the back of the queue having refunded them. It doesn't work.
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How did Samsung mess up? Its a developing story and they responded as soon as they could. Do some of you sit anxiously waiting to catch your next breath??????
They've identified the issue within a couple of days and are working on a resolution plan which is why they are saying they'll contact us in the next week once stock and plans are understood!
The problem has been the messages coming from retailers and we all know they are full of sh.. just to get you off the phone!
Give them time. I'd rather this was managed that rushed with mistakes.
If you fancy an iphone then what are you doing on Android waiting for the note7. If you jump to the LG...good luck there. I've never even seen v10 in the UK! And how do you know they won't have an unlucky problem...**** happens
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Do phones catch fire when turned off?
I'm sure the real reason for leaving phones with customers until exchange is that they know the risk is low so why inconvenience customers by taking their phones off them and potentially leaving them without and at the back of the queue having refunded them. It doesn't work.
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Wow man. Easy tiger I think people have the right to be annoyed frustrated considering the nature of the problem. Battery exploding I mean it's pretty bad, yes they are trying to resolve the issue but people expect better especially when you fork out around £700.
As for sharing info, experience, sentiments and considering other options is nothing new. No one should feel threatened by it. This is the way of the world, it maybe not right or wrong but it's the way it is.
So dude join the discussion and take it easy.
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Hello, the question is easy jaja , do you recomendme buy this new phone or is the same with s7 ? or you recommendme wait galaxy s10?
thanks you
I mean it is a pretty large upgrade from the 7, but if the 7 still does everything you need it to do and you do not need a better camera/bigger screen/faster phone then there is no reason to spend the money now... right? No one can really tell you what is right for you, there are the obvious reasons to upgrade but ultimately only you can decide if it is worth it.
In my book for my usage yes.
Without a doubt yes! I came from the s8+ and it's amazing. The performance increase, the camera, even the speakers sound freaking amazing compared to the s8+. You won't regret it.
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I mean it is a pretty large upgrade from the 7, but if the 7 still does everything you need it to do and you do not need a better camera/bigger screen/faster phone then there is no reason to spend the money now... right? No one can really tell you what is right for you, there are the obvious reasons to upgrade but ultimately only you can decide if it is worth it.
In my book for my usage yes.
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I second this. I came from an S7 and it's a pretty substantial upgrade. But I was also fairing well using the S7 till I switched. If you don't necessarily need an upgrade, it doesn't hurt to wait around to see what the next one will look like. Worst case, the S9 will be on sale then. With all that said, I've been enjoying my S9 since day 1. I haven't experienced any problems with it even the ones that have been commonly reported (knock on wood). Hope this helps!
I came from an S7 Edge, and I think it's a worthwhile upgrade. Not a mandatory one, for sure, but the phone is faster, smoother, the screen is better, and the sound is much better.
But I do wish the fingerprint sensor was still on the front. And this is a big phone, even wider than the S7 edge, so you might want to visit a store and try one out first, to make sure you're comfortable with the added size. I have fairly small hands, and find the extra width makes this just a little bit uncomfortable to hold.
I came from an LG V20 with 5.7" screen and tiny second screen. I'm loving the phone so far. Super fast. Screen is beautiful looking. Once you disable some of the Samsung stuff that you may not need it's a lot better than out of the box.
I got this phone because it runs Android 8 and is Google Daydream (VR headset) compatible.
Right now? wait lol, the phone as the issue with the phone calls and with the crush blacks, the phone is great though i really like it,
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Right now? wait lol, the phone as the issue with the phone calls and with the crush blacks, the phone is great though i really like it,
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i have no issues with phone calls or the blacks. It seems a very small (tiny) number of complaints.
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i have no issues with phone calls or the blacks. It seems a very small (tiny) number of complaints.
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calling a 24 page topic "tiny" its something, lol i had it my phone got refunded and im waiting for a new one
Seems like mostly the same people posting over and over, though.
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Seems like mostly the same people posting over and over, though.
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Same persons posting for 24 pages? I'll be damned
I'm having the dreaded touch lag issue on my poco device.
I've sent it back for repair or refund but they refuse to do anything since the touch tests pass.
I tried explaining them my previous 3 years old device is fine and that the poco which is much newer and faster should do this and they don't listen to me, they say that the device is working like the manufacturer intended for it to work.
So, can anyone record a video?
It should only take 2-3 minutes to record and upload. Do it in 480p it doesn't matter as long as it shows the issue.
There are 2 ways to do it, the correct way, and the fast way, I'll write both.
1) Go to about phone, kernel version, tap a few times then CIT testing app will open. (if it doesn't open try again)
Then go to the top right and press the three dot menu, then additional tools, then touch sensor.
Then tap really fast on the edges of the display. If your device is working as intended the touches should all be registered.
2) Download realdrum, and tap really fast on the below drums on the edge of the display, If your device is working as intended the drums should register all the inputs without missing.
Again it's urgent, so I could use all the help I can.
Thank you.
Did you tried your device without a case? I read about cases doing this issued.
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Did you tried your device without a case? I read about cases doing this issued.
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Yes I have.
No change.
Is your device working correctly?
Could you upload a video?
Here's an example video of what the problem looks like.
Ignore that the language is not english, the video was recorded for the shop to see.
https://1drv.ms/v/s!Alh2bAGk6Iy4hQ5-Dc6Tu3UgRQzi
I feel for you. All the 7 pocophone I have tried have this annoying issue. I've complained and asked people about it, and who claims that theirs is working fine is either using Swiftkeyboard (which isn't as fast as Gboard), or simply doesn't know how to test this properly. Maybe they just don't notice it at all, but I doubt there's a single pocophone without this bug, and this is what made me give up on the phone.
v.redd.it/z0ph2ff4eys11
Here's what you probably need.
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I feel for you. All the 7 pocophone I have tried have this annoying issue. I've complained and asked people about it, and who claims that theirs is working fine is either using Swiftkeyboard (which isn't as fast as Gboard), or simply doesn't know how to test this properly. Maybe they just don't notice it at all, but I doubt there's a single pocophone without this bug, and this is what made me give up on the phone.
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Jesus christ 7 pocophones?
Wow.
God damn it Xiaomi, how can they release a faulty device and take no responsibility for it?
Samsung went ahead and recalled all the Note 7s that had the battery issue, a much more expensive and higher selling device.
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Jesus christ 7 pocophones?
Wow.
God damn it Xiaomi, how can they release a faulty device and take no responsibility for it?
Samsung went ahead and recalled all the Note 7s that had the battery issue, a much more expensive and higher selling device.
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2 returned from a retail store, 2 from amazon, 1 that I tried from a store and 2 more from friends of mine. It's absurd how bad their quality control is. They claim that it's software, just like they claimed the screen bleeding was part of the phone. They're a ****ing joke.
Do you have a screen protector on , or to be more specific, a tempered glass one with the black band? If so this is your issue because the black band is slight raising the contact. Have you tried pressing the device harder to see it it registers?
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Do you have a screen protector on , or to be more specific, a tempered glass one with the black band? If so this is your issue because the black band is slight raising the contact. Have you tried pressing the device harder to see it it registers?
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No screen protector, pressing harder doesn't affected the usage.
Most of the units if not all have this problem, I canceled my order for this phone recently and I'm glad that I did. Xiaomi had to save on something and they did, sadly on the screen. Screens from tianma are known for their not very good quality ( rumors say that they catch afterimages after time ) and it feels bad that it turned out that this phone is a big no no. Screen is a numero uno thing when it comes to a phone, damn u look and type on it so despite the great specification this phone is a crap. People all over miui forum write threads that their pocophones have input lag and ghost touches. Xiaomi knows about it and since a month clam that they gonna fix it via ota updates. Let me tell you something they won't. It's not possible to fix it because it's a faulty digitizer that causes the problem which is obviously a part of the hardware. That's what happens when you try to rock the world with the best spec budget smartphone and u cut costs in the lcd panel area. With all that being said, don't fall for this phone. If you look for the good phone for 300 bucks then better option imo is for example Lg g6. Don't get fooled and stay open minded guys, peace.
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Most of the units if not all have this problem, I canceled my order for this phone recently and I'm glad that I did. Xiaomi had to save on something and they did, sadly on the screen. Screens from tianma are known for their not very good quality ( rumors say that they catch afterimages after time ) and it feels bad that it turned out that this phone is a big no no. Screen is a numero uno thing when it comes to a phone, damn u look and type on it so despite the great specification this phone is a crap. People all over miui forum write threads that their pocophones have input lag and ghost touches. Xiaomi knows about it and since a month clam that they gonna fix it via ota updates. Tell me tell you something they won't. It's not possible to fix it because it's a faulty digitizer that causes the problem which is obviously a part of the hardware. That's what happens when you try to rock the world with the best spec budget smartphone and u cut costs in the lcd panel area. With all that being said, don't fall for this phone. If you look for the good phone for 300 bucks then better option imo is for example Lg g6. Don't get fooled and stay open minded guys, peace.
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I completely and totally 100% agree with you.
Just waiting right now to get my refund.
I'll most likely get the OP6/T.
I dont have this issue. - using MIUI10 8.10.11
nfsmw_gr said:
I completely and totally 100% agree with you.
Just waiting right now to get my refund.
I'll most likely get the OP6/T.
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Good decision, refund this crappy phone and get something better. When it comes to me xiaomi just lost a supporter and follower, once Hugo Barra left xiaomi everything started to fall apart ( mi mix 2/2s are not as revolutionary as the first mi mix was or the mi 8 which is nothing else than a iphone x copy ). It's always good to wait and see the very first 3 months after a phone release, usually after this time most of the fails/cons come out. Have a good day anyways
exdeee said:
Most of the units if not all have this problem, I canceled my order for this phone recently and I'm glad that I did. Xiaomi had to save on something and they did, sadly on the screen. Screens from tianma are known for their not very good quality ( rumors say that they catch afterimages after time ) and it feels bad that it turned out that this phone is a big no no. Screen is a numero uno thing when it comes to a phone, damn u look and type on it so despite the great specification this phone is a crap. People all over miui forum write threads that their pocophones have input lag and ghost touches. Xiaomi knows about it and since a month clam that they gonna fix it via ota updates. Let me tell you something they won't. It's not possible to fix it because it's a faulty digitizer that causes the problem which is obviously a part of the hardware. That's what happens when you try to rock the world with the best spec budget smartphone and u cut costs in the lcd panel area. With all that being said, don't fall for this phone. If you look for the good phone for 300 bucks then better option imo is for example Lg g6. Don't get fooled and stay open minded guys, peace.
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Just tried using CIT as well as really drums. Problem has been solved in latest beta 8.10.18
U can try and confirm. Scrolling on the edges is also smooth now and even keyboard is working fine.
exdeee said:
Good decision, refund this crappy phone and get something better. When it comes to me xiaomi just lost a supporter and follower, once Hugo Barra left xiaomi everything started to fall apart ( mi mix 2/2s are not as revolutionary as the first mi mix was or the mi 8 which is nothing else than a iphone x copy ). It's always good to wait and see the very first 3 months after a phone release, usually after this time most of the fails/cons come out. Have a good day anyways
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Again you are right.
I became impatient with my old phone and that got the better of me.
Will keep those words at mind next time.
Have a good day as well pal.
sanjay0501 said:
Just tried using CIT as well as really drums. Problem has been solved in latest beta 8.10.18
U can try and confirm. Scrolling on the edges is also smooth now and even keyboard is working fine.
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Well, it doesn't change the fact that lcd panels in pocophones are poor quality. I don't really believe that they managed to fix it via updates, only time will tell after let's say a month if the problem is fixed. I don't think that it will, it's better to send the phone back, get ur money and wait. There are way better options for example the aforementioned one plus 6.
Working fine for me
For me it is working fine. I can't see the blue line which show the position but the touch is working fine even when I tap it fast. The touch is always registered without the blue lines. You can always see a red dot where you touched.
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Well, it doesn't change the fact that lcd panels in pocophones are poor quality. I don't really believe that they managed to fix it via updates, only time will tell after let's say a month if the problem is fixed. I don't think that it will, it's better to send the phone back, get ur money and wait. There are way better options for example the aforementioned one plus 6.
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If u own the phone try stable 9.6.25 ( I haven't tried) or beta 8.10.18 ( I have tried with all types of tests) and then comment
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If u own the phone try stable 9.6.25 ( I haven't tried) or beta 8.10.18 ( I have tried with all types of tests) and then comment
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And you try to understand smart boy that input lag is related to a hardware problem not a software problem, go and check by the way miui forums. There are plenty of people commenting that 9.6.25 didn't fix a thing.
exdeee said:
Well, it doesn't change the fact that lcd panels in pocophones are poor quality. I don't really believe that they managed to fix it via updates, only time will tell after let's say a month if the problem is fixed. I don't think that it will, it's better to send the phone back, get ur money and wait. There are way better options for example the aforementioned one plus 6.
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Fyi op6 screen has high latency as well
The Pixel, with its Tensor chip and machine learning, can somewhat adapt to the phone user's habits, right? That's why battery life improves, maybe the phone gets hot at first, then doesn't as I've seen people imply here (and was my experience), and so on.
Then you have all the complaints here. The phone sucks, it gets hot, the battery is terrible, etc. And when people do complain about bugs what is usually the first advice they get? Reset it. But in some cases isn't that exactly the wrong thing to do with this phone? With a device that adapts to your usage isn't a wipe the last thing you'd want to do? Or am I giving the whole "machine learning" thing too much credit? I ask because I visit a Telegram thread and a user there was complaining. Someone asked if he had reset the phone and he replied "yes, a few times".
I don't know about overheating and other problems, but w/r/t battery life? I agree. These phones absolutely get better battery life over time, and frequent resets are probably disruptive of that process.
In fact i am quite happy with this phone. If it was not the epic fail with the december update breaking phone connectivity and the way it was handled otherwise i don't have any problems. Camera is top notch especially when shooting in RAW and battery life for me is between 1 and 2 days (depends how much i use it). I think that with few more updates bugs will be fixed and we will have very good phone with regular updates just like the old pixels. The only thing i hope to change are these stupid 5G, volte and vowifi limitations imposed by google for most countries.
You will always get people complaining about any new phone/device.
Some people are more dramatic than others.
Any new device is not a 100% perfect. There will always be bugs on a new device.
Bottom line is if you hate it that much. Sent it back and get a refund.
Or buy a POS crapple and be a sheep.
Wait a second guys. Let's call a spade a spade. The device was not ready to be released until the December update was fixed. Past the 15 day period there is no returning the phone so put that aside, it's a non issue. You can't be saying that connectivity is fine, it's not. Don't even get me started on the FPR. Be real and acknowledge what is broken. Call screening is gone, on hold is gone, there is basically no transfer from wifi to network without a reboot. That is unacceptable and no amount of calling those complaining sheeple is going to change that. I've owned every Google device since they started coming out with hardware and this device is the worst they've ever released. Do I like the phone, yes I do. Would I trade it in, no. But there are serious problems and you must admit it without criticizing those that do. Calling Google out is not being unfaithful it's just being real.
edit: that being said I did bootloader unlock the device and I'm running ProtonAOSP non rooted. FPR is way better but connectivity is still the December radio which is awful. The rom is better that what Google has out now. Just sayin'.
android_dan said:
The Pixel, with its Tensor chip and machine learning, can somewhat adapt to the phone user's habits, right? That's why battery life improves, maybe the phone gets hot at first, then doesn't as I've seen people imply here (and was my experience), and so on.
Then you have all the complaints here. The phone sucks, it gets hot, the battery is terrible, etc. And when people do complain about bugs what is usually the first advice they get? Reset it. But in some cases isn't that exactly the wrong thing to do with this phone? With a device that adapts to your usage isn't a wipe the last thing you'd want to do? Or am I giving the whole "machine learning" thing too much credit? I ask because I visit a Telegram thread and a user there was complaining. Someone asked if he had reset the phone and he replied "yes, a few times".
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It doesn't adapt to anything except to determine what kind of advertising you would be most susceptible to so that gooble can target you most profitably. All this "AI" and "machine learning" crap is just buzz words that really do NOT imply any of the amazing scifi ideas of machines actually thinking. Don't get overly carried away with marketing buzzwords.
Nidstang said:
I don't know about overheating and other problems, but w/r/t battery life? I agree. These phones absolutely get better battery life over time, and frequent resets are probably disruptive of that process.
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Increased battery life is tied to calibrating the battery level gauge.
vandyman said:
You will always get people complaining about any new phone/device.
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You mean aside from apple, which is actually a fashion accessory and nobody actually expects it to work well. I see lots of apple people with nothing that works, and they just shrug it off as "that's just what phones are".
bobby janow said:
Wait a second guys. Let's call a spade a spade. The device was not ready to be released until the December update was fixed. Past the 15 day period there is no returning the phone so put that aside, it's a non issue. You can't be saying that connectivity is fine, it's not. Don't even get me started on the FPR. Be real and acknowledge what is broken. Call screening is gone, on hold is gone, there is basically no transfer from wifi to network without a reboot. That is unacceptable and no amount of calling those complaining sheeple is going to change that. I've owned every Google device since they started coming out with hardware and this device is the worst they've ever released. Do I like the phone, yes I do. Would I trade it in, no. But there are serious problems and you must admit it without criticizing those that do. Calling Google out is not being unfaithful it's just being real.
edit: that being said I did bootloader unlock the device and I'm running ProtonAOSP non rooted. FPR is way better but connectivity is still the December radio which is awful. The rom is better that what Google has out now. Just sayin'.
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Well said, and very true!
I am SO tired of users saying "well MY device works just fine, YOU must be doing something wrong!". That's exactly the response I see everywhere as soon as someone has any complaint about the P6. The "only" issue I had was the almost total loss of reception after the December update ... I'd like for those users to tell me how I did something wrong there? I wanted to root after the update anyway, so I unlocked, rooted and flashed the mid-November radio.img which brought my reception back up to the 3-4 bars I had before the botched Google update (which had taken it down to 0-1 bar).
Google just letting P6 users sit + wait now, those on locked bootloaders with crappy reception, is what pisses me off most of all. I am long past the 2-week return period so I'm stuck with the device. But I've been letting it sit, half the time on Airplane mode, on my desk for weeks now while my actual daily driver is the OP 5T.
I'm just waiting for "proper" custom roms now to finally get some options ... or until the eBay prices for the P6 go back up so I can sell it without losing too much. The next person that tells me that "Google are the best + fastest with updates for their devices!" will get tarred + feathered by me for sure
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Well said, and very true!
I am SO tired of users saying "well MY device works just fine, YOU must be doing something wrong!". That's exactly the response I see everywhere as soon as someone has any complaint about the P6. The "only" issue I had was the almost total loss of reception after the December update ... I'd like for those users to tell me how I did something wrong there? I wanted to root after the update anyway, so I unlocked, rooted and flashed the mid-November radio.img which brought my reception back up to the 3-4 bars I had before the botched Google update (which had taken it down to 0-1 bar).
Google just letting P6 users sit + wait now, those on locked bootloaders with crappy reception, is what pisses me off most of all. I am long past the 2-week return period so I'm stuck with the device. But I've been letting it sit, half the time on Airplane mode, on my desk for weeks now while my actual daily driver is the OP 5T.
I'm just waiting for "proper" custom roms now to finally get some options ... or until the eBay prices for the P6 go back up so I can sell it without losing too much. The next person that tells me that "Google are the best + fastest with updates for their devices!" will get tarred + feathered by me for sure
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While you're waiting try ProtonAOSP rom then reflash the November radio. That's what I did and it's running rather swimmingly. Still some issues but definitely worth a shot especially if it's just sitting on the desk.
bobby janow said:
Wait a second guys. Let's call a spade a spade. The device was not ready to be released until the December update was fixed. Past the 15 day period there is no returning the phone so put that aside, it's a non issue. You can't be saying that connectivity is fine, it's not.
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I disagree. I don't deny that some people may have connectivity issues, but I can say that I do not. I find connectivity to be excellent. However, my carrier has only up to LTE, no 5G as of yet. This could be why, either flaws in 5G connectivity, or new and patchy 5G networks. Maybe try limiting it to LTE and see how that works out?
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Don't even get me started on the FPR.
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Fingerprints are not good for security, especially when it comes to anti-self-incrimination laws, since it is not knowledge based. Consequently, I'd have to categorize finger print unlock to be more of a gimmick than a real feature.
bobby janow said:
Call screening is gone, on hold is gone,
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Hold works perfectly. Isn't call screening a feature of the google dialer?
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there is basically no transfer from wifi to network without a reboot.
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You must be mistaken about that. I transfer from wifi to carrier all the time -- MANY times per day, never had to reboot.
96carboard said:
I disagree. I don't deny that some people may have connectivity issues, but I can say that I do not. I find connectivity to be excellent. However, my carrier has only up to LTE, no 5G as of yet. This could be why, either flaws in 5G connectivity, or new and patchy 5G networks. Maybe try limiting it to LTE and see how that works out?
Fingerprints are not good for security, especially when it comes to anti-self-incrimination laws, since it is not knowledge based. Consequently, I'd have to categorize finger print unlock to be more of a gimmick than a real feature.
Hold works perfectly. Isn't call screening a feature of the google dialer?
You must be mistaken about that. I transfer from wifi to carrier all the time -- MANY times per day, never had to reboot.
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But you can't deny that many many many people are having serious problems. The fact that you're not is good for you. That's about it. Call on hold is gone. Perhaps you didn't know what I meant..
96carboard said:
I disagree. I don't deny that some people may have connectivity issues, but I can say that I do not. I find connectivity to be excellent. However, my carrier has only up to LTE, no 5G as of yet. This could be why, either flaws in 5G connectivity, or new and patchy 5G networks. Maybe try limiting it to LTE and see how that works out?
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I disabled 5G on day one since my carrier doesn't have 5G coverage in my area yet, and STILL the connectivity issues are there. Google stopped the OTA, admitted there are problems and then even deleted the files from their update server so YES, there is a huge connectivity problem on the P6(P). Just because YOU don't have those problems doesn't mean they don't exist
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While you're waiting try ProtonAOSP rom then reflash the November radio. That's what I did and it's running rather swimmingly. Still some issues but definitely worth a shot especially if it's just sitting on the desk.
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Nah, those "custom" roms that are out yet don't have any customization (yet?), so I'll pass. I am helping test the Renovate Ice module though, which is slowly adding tweaks/features again. RiCE was the reason I was able to stay stock on my OP7 for 2 years, so fingers crossed it will help with this P6 too.
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I disabled 5G on day one since my carrier doesn't have 5G coverage in my area yet, and STILL the connectivity issues are there. Google stopped the OTA, admitted there are problems and then even deleted the files from their update server so YES, there is a huge connectivity problem on the P6(P). Just because YOU don't have those problems doesn't mean they don't exist
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I suspect that you see a low reading in the signal meter and THINK that it means you have connectivity problems. Yes, it reads really low, but holds signals and works well despite that.
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Call on hold is gone. Perhaps you didn't know what I meant..
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Perhaps you aren't explaining what you mean properly, because hold works perfectly.
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Perhaps you aren't explaining what you mean properly, because hold works perfectly.
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The hold for me while I'm waiting to speak with a representative. It will then alert you when someone picked up. That stopped working for me.. But really small potatoes compared to the other issues.
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I suspect that you see a low reading in the signal meter and THINK that it means you have connectivity problems. Yes, it reads really low, but holds signals and works well despite that.
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No, I didn't "think" it was bad - if calls don't go through or disconnect mid-call then that's not an issue with the display of the signal strength, but one with the SIGNAL itself. None of that happened any more after flashing the mid-November radio.img.
Why do you think Google stopped pushing the OTA and removed the files from their servers? Certainly not because they were bored, but because they KNEW there were issues.
So please stop assuming that 1000s of users are simply too stupid to handle a phone or only think they have an issue. YOU got lucky, great - but please don't treat those of us that have reception or fp or whatever issues like we don't know what we're doing!
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All this "AI" and "machine learning" crap is just buzz words that really do NOT imply any of the amazing scifi ideas of machines actually thinking. Don't get overly carried away with marketing buzzwords.
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That reply sure was a buzz kill. I was sure by this time next year the phone would be cutting my grass and doing the laundry.
vandyman said:
You will always get people complaining about any new phone/device.
Some people are more dramatic than others.
Any new device is not a 100% perfect. There will always be bugs on a new device.
Bottom line is if you hate it that much. Sent it back and get a refund.
Or buy a POS crapple and be a sheep.
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C'mon man, yes there's always people who complain at first or some growing pains.. But this phone has serious issues. I feel like people who are making light of these problems with the p6 are just trying to justify their purchase
opz187 said:
C'mon man, yes there's always people who complain at first or some growing pains.. But this phone has serious issues. I feel like people who are making light of these problems with the p6 are just trying to justify their purchase
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The only people that are having any issues are the people that keep their phone stock. And most of them do not even know that they have a bad device.
Most people that come to the XDA forums are modders of some sort.
I honestly do not have any issues after making changes to the P6 to suit me.
I understand some people are having issues and most are self inflected.