Update: I was able to resolve my issue and bring my cell phone back to life using "HYDRA EDL CABLE - V2". The EDL cable puts the Qualcomm devices in EDL mode, so that they can be flashed again using MSM tool.
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Recently, I was flashing stock Oxygen OS 11 firmware for my OnePlus 9r using MSM Tool. The flashing was successful (Download complete status in MSM) but the device did not boot automatically upon completion. Since then, it has been dead. I can not boot it up, enter recovery, enter fastboot or enter EDL mode. It does not even show charging signs or anything. There are no vibrations. In short, it is completely DEAD. I tried to enter EDL mode with volume buttons, but the device is not detected in device manager anymore. I do have proper Qualcomm Drivers installed.
Since I can not enter EDL mode using Volume Button combination, is there any way I can revive my device. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you so much.
@ThePGs
I'm glad you got it resolved.
But I wanted to understand what is special about this cable, does it force the cell phone to enter EDL mode?
lvints said:
@ThePGs
I'm glad you got it resolved.
But I wanted to understand what is special about this cable, does it force the cell phone to enter EDL mode?
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Yes, the cable has a button attached to it, when we press it, it creates a short-circuit, just like when we open a device and short it using test-points to enter EDL mode.
Reddit user jabashque1 explained it in these words:
You installed the wrong LineageOS OTA, which wrote the wrong xbl and xbl_config image, and now your phone aborts booting when it's at the xbl stage because it detects the wrong RAM type. You can't boot into EDL mode with holding vol up + vol down and plugging your phone into your computer because the RAM type check happens before the logic for detecting whether you're holding those buttons down for EDL.
However, the logic for detecting the deep flash cable happens before the logic for detecting RAM type.
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ThePGs said:
Yes, the cable has a button attached to it, when we press it, it creates a short-circuit, just like when we open a device and short it using test-points to enter EDL mode.
Reddit user jabashque1 explained it in these words:
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Cloud u please teardown ur hydra v2 cable and open up it's secret to the world. I don't get that cable near me nor online so making it on my own is much better way and only the mystery is what's inside is happening. Please could u help in that?
srisuren5225 said:
Cloud u please teardown ur hydra v2 cable and open up it's secret to the world. I don't get that cable near me nor online so making it on my own is much better way and only the mystery is what's inside is happening. Please could u help in that?
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Here, the makers have already shown what's inside:
Hydra Tool New Type-C EDL cable Schematic
However, you can try buying it here:
Hydra Cable - V2
ThePGs said:
Here, the makers have already shown what's inside:
Hydra Tool New Type-C EDL cable Schematic
However, you can try buying it here:
Hydra Cable - V2
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What about the button to trigger the action bro
srisuren5225 said:
What about the button to trigger the action bro
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I don't know about that. I believe the safest option is just to buy the cable.
ThePGs said:
I don't know about that. I believe the safest option is just to buy the cable.
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From ali express it takes 50+ days to deliver also delevery costs 8 times the price of the cable. That's why thinking of make on my own. If u have the cable u could help the community by revealing how it works
srisuren5225 said:
From ali express it takes 50+ days to deliver also delevery costs 8 times the price of the cable. That's why thinking of make on my own. If u have the cable u could help the community by revealing how it works
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I do not know the working of hardware, therefore I can't. This might address to your question:
Make your own EDL cable
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As I was trying to flash global rom via miflash, It gave an error at %50 helloblabla and stuck at nowhere. Just red led blinking. When I connect it to the pc, It is seen as diagnostics 900e (com10). I hold volume + and - and plug the usb cable after taking out battery and usb cable for 10 seconds and putting them back from back but It doesn't work. I cannot see my device in miflash to flash the device.
Use the deep flash method mentioned here
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=310325&extra=page=1&page=1&mobile=2
Had the same issue on my rn3 and was able to recover it using this method(when test point seemed the only option). You just need a copper wire strand to do this. Short the usb 2nd pin as in the video, then remove cable and reinsert. Phone will be detected as unknown device, then update driver and phone will be shown as qdownloader 9008 mode. Next open miflash and flash rom.
tuxing said:
Use the deep flash method mentioned here
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=310325&extra=page=1&page=1&mobile=2
Had the same issue on my rn3 and was able to recover it using this method(when test point seemed the only option). You just need a copper wire strand to do this. Short the usb 2nd pin as in the video, then remove cable and reinsert. Phone will be detected as unknown device, then update driver and phone will be shown as qdownloader 9008 mode. Next open miflash and flash rom.
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See, the person I bought the phone will do it for me. That's not something I want to do.
Use the modified fastboot to reboot to edl from fastboot. google "fastboot edl"
justinxfan said:
Use the modified fastboot to reboot to edl from fastboot. google "fastboot edl"
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I wish I could go in fastboot mode Device doesn't turn on at all. It needs deep flashing as I can learn. Will do it soon today.
NO Fastboot, No Recovery mode only EDL is accessible.
Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 is detected. Tried flashing Global Dev Rom and Global Stable Rom. But Same problem... NO FastBoot, No Recovery
Please Help
asett3 said:
NO Fastboot, No Recovery mode only EDL is accessible.
Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 is detected. Tried flashing Global Dev Rom and Global Stable Rom. But Same problem... NO FastBoot, No Recovery
Please Help
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could you please explain more, about what u have actually done...?
edit:-
some helpful things you may try .
*hoping you are running windows7,8,10(64bit) try usong mi flash tool beta..if on32 bit os use layest mi flash tool..
*install pda net,and adb drivers
*disable driver enforcement in windows.
*make sure phone is detected in miflash tool..(just click refresh button to see whether phone is detected in mi flash tool..
*use latest fastboot rom (you can see link for kenzo in guide section,just go through old posts)
adithyan25 said:
could you please explain more, about what u have actually done...?
edit:-
some helpful things you may try .
*hoping you are running windows7,8,10(64bit) try usong mi flash tool beta..if on32 bit os use layest mi flash tool..
*install pda net,and adb drivers
*disable driver enforcement in windows.
*make sure phone is detected in miflash tool..(just click refresh button to see whether phone is detected in mi flash tool..
*use latest fastboot rom (you can see link for kenzo in guide section,just go through old posts)
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Thanks for your support. I am using Win 10-64Bit, Mi Flash Beta, Detecting phone without any issue flashing is also done successfully. But after that it is still on EDL mode
asett3 said:
Thanks for your support. I am using Win 10-64Bit, Mi Flash Beta, Detecting phone without any issue flashing is also done successfully. But after that it is still on EDL mode
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Press power button about 10-20 seconds
[email protected] said:
Press power button about 10-20 seconds
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Tried but not booting.... Also tried combination pwr+vol-/ (pwr)+(vol-) / (pwr)+(vol-) / (pwr)+(vol-)+(vol-) ..........
Still in EDL Red led Blinking while charging and connected to PC. (9008)
asett3 said:
Tried but not booting.... Also tried combination pwr+vol-/ (pwr)+(vol-) / (pwr)+(vol-) / (pwr)+(vol-)+(vol-) ..........
Still in EDL Red led Blinking while charging and connected to PC. (9008)
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some clarifications needed
*did you replaced any file especially the bootloader file to unlock the unofficial way.
*kenzo/kate?
*did you try booting into fastbokt mode by connection phone to pc(pow+vol down)
adithyan25 said:
some clarifications needed
*did you replaced any file especially the bootloader file to unlock the unofficial way.
*kenzo/kate?
*did you try booting into fastbokt mode by connection phone to pc(pow+vol down)
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Kenzo,
Officially Unlocked
Fastboot Mode not working
Power + Vol Down no respond :,(
Some ppl told me I was saying sh** but even with a fully working ROM my vol down never came back.
My story is kinda similar to yours, if I do remember, disconnect battery + deep flash cable made de trick (http://en.miui.com/thread-365090-1-1.html)
bigbrother69 said:
Some ppl told me I was saying sh** but even with a fully working ROM my vol down never came back.
My story is kinda similar to yours, if I do remember, disconnect battery + deep flash cable made de trick (http://en.miui.com/thread-365090-1-1.html)
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But my pc is detecting Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoadar 9008 and i can flash via mi flashtool.
asett3 said:
Kenzo,
Officially Unlocked
Fastboot Mode not working
Power + Vol Down no respond :,(
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probabaly you will have to disconnect battery and reconnect it again.. and flash rom using deep flash cable..(either make one or buy it online ,refer youtube if u wanna make one)
adithyan25 said:
probabaly you will have to disconnect battery and reconnect it again.. and flash rom using deep flash cable..(either make one or buy it online ,refer youtube if u wanna make one)
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Same not powering on aftr successful flash
Please Help someone
Did you try to flash battery disconnected, deep flash cable connected, push button on, release, connect battery, push power button..
I mean every combinaison possible with those stuff...I really thought mine was dead during at least a month so...hope is still permitted..
bigbrother69 said:
Did you try to flash battery disconnected, deep flash cable connected, push button on, release, connect battery, push power button..
I mean every combinaison possible with those stuff...I really thought mine was dead during at least a month so...hope is still permitted..
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tried gave it to service center!
mobile pc co conect rakho apne aap reboot ho jayega automatic
Bro plz tell me ur contact number nd my number 7340329575 plz call me im helf u
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asett3 said:
NO Fastboot, No Recovery mode only EDL is accessible.
Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 is detected. Tried flashing Global Dev Rom and Global Stable Rom. But Same problem... NO FastBoot, No Recovery
Please Help
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Bro tell me ur contact number nd my contact number 7340329575 plz call me my number im helf u
Did u find any solution?
I have also experiencing this problem. Back in MIUI 8, when I'm totally running out of battery, the phone won't charge or getting into any mode
Try to
"Hold Vol- + Connect the phone to PC USB Slot"
Let me know if it works
Try TWRP flashing
As you said that the mi flash tool is detecting your phone so try flashing the twrp recovery by the edl method and then you can flash the rom
Refer this link for Flashing TWRP
youtu.be/rCONN1_IPuU(please add https:// before the link )
And after flashing process is done and of you are unable to access the internal storage then complete wipe the internal storage and you are good to go
Just disconnect battery, connect EDL cable (deep flash cable with pressed button), run MiFlash and flash the phone.
Hi there,
I have a Redmi Note 4 here. The device is "not" booting correctly. After switching on the screen does not show the MI logo. The screen is working and the background light is definitely switched on. I already replaced the screen (with digitizer) - same issue as before.
Device can be detected with ADB and/or FASTBOOT.
Reaching out for a second opinion. Could this be a hardware problem and how can I detect the issue? Maybe a chip died?
Update: I left the device without battery over night and pressed the power button for 30 sec. Reconnecting the battery now and switched on: the device vibrates, backlight is on - devices switches off after 10..20 sec. No ADB, no FASTBOOT.
Txs
mgw2015 said:
Hi there,
I have a Redmi Note 4 here. The device is "not" booting correctly. After switching on the screen does not show the MI logo. The screen is working and the background light is definitely switched on. I already replaced the screen (with digitizer) - same issue as before.
Device can be detected with ADB and/or FASTBOOT.
Reaching out for a second opinion. Could this be a hardware problem and how can I detect the issue? Maybe a chip died?
Update: I left the device without battery over night and pressed the power button for 30 sec. Reconnecting the battery now and switched on: the device vibrates, backlight is on - devices switches off after 10..20 sec. No ADB, no FASTBOOT.
Txs
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Try restoring stock rom via fastboot or mi flash tool.
amitzeo1996 said:
Try restoring stock rom via fastboot or mi flash tool.
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FASTBOOT not available with this device!
MI falsh tool only operates on Windows ...
amitzeo1996 said:
Try restoring stock rom via fastboot or mi flash tool.
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As I wrote: FASTBOOT not available with this device!
MI falsh tool only operates on Windows ...
mgw2015 said:
As I wrote: FASTBOOT not available with this device!
MI falsh tool only operates on Windows ...
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How did your phone end up in that situation. Did it happen automatically or you were trying to something. And if it is being detected by pc what is showing?
amitzeo1996 said:
How did your phone end up in that situation. Did it happen automatically or you were trying to something. And if it is being detected by pc what is showing?
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The earphone jack didn't work so I had open it. After re-assembly the screen was black upon boot as described - I intially thought the display died (since not even the MI logo showed up - and replaced it - no change.
The phone is neither detected by ADB nor by FASTBOOT now. Upon connecting to the PCs USB-port my Linux launches an MTP dialog but the file list is empty.
First time this happens to me and I've dealt with >20 devices already. Spare parts carrying brick now I guess...
Move the thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4/help
mgw2015 said:
The earphone jack didn't work so I had open it. After re-assembly the screen was black upon boot as described - I intially thought the display died (since not even the MI logo showed up - and replaced it - no change.
The phone is neither detected by ADB nor by FASTBOOT now. Upon connecting to the PCs USB-port my Linux launches an MTP dialog but the file list is empty.
First time this happens to me and I've dealt with >20 devices already. Spare parts carrying brick now I guess...
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Try to flash in edl mode.
Disconnect the battery, while shorting the edl pins (on the bottom left side of pcb), connect usb. After u see 9008 mode in device manager, disconnect the short. Then flash latest global fastboot rom using Xiaomi flash tool. After flash, connect battery and try to boot.
Btw while replacing the headphone jack r u sure u didnt damage any other components? Coz its quite easy to destroy other components if u apply excessive heat.
amitzeo1996 said:
Try restoring stock rom via fastboot or mi flash tool.
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+999
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Te$la said:
Try to flash in edl mode.
Disconnect the battery, while shorting the edl pins (on the bottom left side of pcb), connect usb. After u see 9008 mode in device manager, disconnect the short. Then flash latest global fastboot rom using Xiaomi flash tool. After flash, connect battery and try to boot.
Btw while replacing the headphone jack r u sure u didnt damage any other components? Coz its quite easy to destroy other components if u apply excessive heat.
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+99898
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nubitolz said:
Move the thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4/help
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Nice
Te$la said:
Try to flash in edl mode.
Disconnect the battery, while shorting the edl pins (on the bottom left side of pcb), connect usb. After u see 9008 mode in device manager, disconnect the short. Then flash latest global fastboot rom using Xiaomi flash tool. After flash, connect battery and try to boot.
Btw while replacing the headphone jack r u sure u didnt damage any other components? Coz its quite easy to destroy other components if u apply excessive heat.
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Txs!
However, as wrote: I use it as a spare parts source now.
Hlo guys this problem start when i buy a new laptop which 3.0 usb ports. Then whenever i connect phone without fastboot it show press any key to shutdown and phone disconnected automatically.
I search a little and find that this bug is related to 3.0 usb ports.
But i got a fix for that. RIP my anglish.
This is also working for whyred violet etc
Read this also for better understanding:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/fastboot-problem-usb-3-0-ports-t3859995
Run this as administrator in pc:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/179poqE77RxswNGvefG_JA77dSk9EmRF9/view?usp=drivesdk
Take an usb2 hub?
ConradB said:
Take an usb2 hub?
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It's working without using any usb hub
Can't believe modifying some registry values solved this! I almost went to buy a usb 2.0 cable. Many thanks
This worked for me and I hope the same goes for you all as well (
without using USB HUB and USB 2 port
).
I found the solution here .
Scenario:
1) Phone not detected with fastboot devices command
2) Phone goes into "Press any key to shutdown"
3) Just download this .bat file and run it as administrator
4) Remove your phone, get it back into fastboot mode (Power + Volume Down), connect it again
5) Open CMD and try to run any fastboot command & they'll run successfully.
P.S.: I too got my POCO F1 unlocked by using this with the modded MI Unlock app. Was tired of trying usb hub and extension thing though my PC is intel and not amd. It'll be happy to know how and what made it worked from technical aspect. Thank You.
Thank youuuuuuuuuu!!! for years now i couldnt do fastboot from my laptop only from my pc
Aadiiiiii said:
Hlo guys this problem start when i buy a new laptop which 3.0 usb ports. Then whenever i connect phone without fastboot it show press any key to shutdown and phone disconnected automatically.
I search a little and find that this bug is related to 3.0 usb ports.
But i got a fix for that. RIP my anglish.
This is also working for whyred violet etc
Read this also for better understanding:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/fastboot-problem-usb-3-0-ports-t3859995
Run this as administrator in pc:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/179poqE77RxswNGvefG_JA77dSk9EmRF9/view?usp=drivesdk
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Thanks, it really helped me out.
machikaa said:
This worked for me and I hope the same goes for you all as well (
without using USB HUB and USB 2 port
).
I found the solution here .
Scenario:
1) Phone not detected with fastboot devices command
2) Phone goes into "Press any key to shutdown"
3) Just download this .bat file and run it as administrator
4) Remove your phone, get it back into fastboot mode (Power + Volume Down), connect it again
5) Open CMD and try to run any fastboot command & they'll run successfully.
P.S.: I too got my POCO F1 unlocked by using this with the modded MI Unlock app. Was tired of trying usb hub and extension thing though my PC is intel and not amd. It'll be happy to know how and what made it worked from technical aspect. Thank You.
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Thank you. it helped.
I was trying multiple firmwares on my Xperia 1 iii and suddenly at a point the phone did not have any les indicator, did not turn on, did not show any error message or display. It’s more like it doesn’t recognise anything at all. When I connect it to my pc it says somc flash device. Also when I connect it and try holding the power button for about 20 seconds, I hear a disconnect sound and the somc on the device manager disappears. Then after a second or two without me doing anything the connect sound comes and it reappears. If I try to flash with new flasher it says no device found.
Things I’ve tried
1. Charging the phone for durations ranging from 20 mins to whole night
2. Trying to hold power and volume up button or down button or both for 20 seconds or two minutes
3. Leave it untouched and try after some time
4. Most other things on coda or google
At this point it’s just a paper weight. Sony isn’t available in India so no scope of warranty. I’m open to opening and fiddling with the device internals given at this point it’s as good as dead. Please help
May apply, do more searches on Google;
"Xperia 1 bricked, xda"
Many xda threads on this, here's another.
This one reason why I don't tickle the dragon's tail...
blackhawk said:
May apply, do more searches on Google;
"Xperia 1 bricked, xda"
Many xda threads on this, here's another.
This one reason why I don't tickle the dragon's tail...
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Haha I know. Have had a lot of phones till now all of which I had rooted. So probably I was like whatever happens I can flash again. This is a new situation though so kind of broke my confidence. I did try Xperia companion. Didn’t detect my phone though. Any other ideas like opening up the device? Could it be the battery cos the port seems fine as it’s detected
vaseey said:
Haha I know. Have had a lot of phones till now all of which I had rooted. So probably I was like whatever happens I can flash again. This is a new situation though so kind of broke my confidence. I did try Xperia companion. Didn’t detect my phone though. Any other ideas like opening up the device? Could it be the battery cos the port seems fine as it’s detected
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Boot up and flashing takes a fair amount current. If the battery can't supply it...
Don't attempt to flash it with a low or bad battery as it could corrupt it.
Yeah I havent done it Any other suggestions?
vaseey said:
Yeah I havent done it Any other suggestions?
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Replace the battery, charge to 100% and try the different solutions.
Make sure the port and cable are 100% A-ok.
The firmware end of it I know very little especially Sony. If Samsung keeps screwing up my next phone could be a Sony.
blackhawk said:
Replace the battery, charge to 100% and try the different solutions.
Make sure the port and cable are 100% A-ok.
The firmware end of it I know very little especially Sony. If Samsung keeps screwing up my next phone could be a Sony.
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Okay thanks. Let me try that as well
When you said Xperia Companion is not detecting your phone, have you checked in Device Manager if Windows actually detects a device plugged in? Could be SEMC and other names, don't remember what they stand for.
I guess you've already tried another usb port and a different cable?
unicastbg said:
When you said Xperia Companion is not detecting your phone, have you checked in Device Manager if Windows actually detects a device plugged in? Could be SEMC and other names, don't remember what they stand for.
I guess you've already tried another usb port and a different cable?
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Hey, Yeah it shows SOMC Flash device when I plug it in. I have tried different cables and ports too. Also a different laptop/pc. It is detected.
vaseey said:
Hey, Yeah it shows SOMC Flash device when I plug it in. I have tried different cables and ports too. Also a different laptop/pc. It is detected.
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What about Emma?
unicastbg said:
unicastbg said:
What about Emma?
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Doesn’t say anything. Just usb 1 and usb 2. No device shown
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Ok, I don't have other ideas. Do Xperias have EDL mode?
unicastbg said:
What about Emma?
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New Flasher works if it says Somc flash device...only way I've recovered from bricks
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
New Flasher works if it says Somc flash device...only way I've recovered from bricks
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new flasher says No usb device with vid:0x0fce pid:0xb00b ! I tried it
unicastbg said:
Ok, I don't have other ideas. Do Xperias have EDL mode?
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thats Download Mode right? I think thats also accessed with down and volume or up and volume. but I dont think any other key is working apart from the power
vaseey said:
thats Download Mode right? I think thats also accessed with down and volume or up and volume. but I dont think any other key is working apart from the power
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Turn phone off then connect it via USB, hold power and Vol Down and it should show up on the PC...what it will show up as depends on what you have installed...now if you run new flasher does it quit right away or ask if you want/need to download the drivers???
vaseey said:
thats Download Mode right? I think thats also accessed with down and volume or up and volume. but I dont think any other key is working apart from the power
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If there's no way to access it, it's hard bricked. The manufacturer can probably access it though.
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
Turn phone off then connect it via USB, hold power and Vol Down and it should show up on the PC...what it will show up as depends on what you have installed...now if you run new flasher does it quit right away or ask if you want/need to download the drivers???
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So if i connect it with or without the volume button, its detected as "SOMC flash device" The new flasher asks about user data, when I click n it says No usb device with vid:0x0fce pid:0xb00b. And then when I press a key it quits
vaseey said:
So if i connect it with or without the volume button, its detected as "SOMC flash device" The new flasher asks about user data, when I click n it says No usb device with vid:0x0fce pid:0xb00b. And then when I press a key it quits
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Okay before that it should ask if you want to download some type of driver you hit yes...it will quit then the driver in the form of a .exe will show up in the same folder your running new flasher from...install the driver restart your PC then after connecting in "download mode" reinstall the SOMC driver, then give new flasher a try once more...
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
Okay before that it should ask if you want to download some type of driver you hit yes...it will quit then the driver in the form of a .exe will show up in the same folder your running new flasher from...install the driver restart your PC then after connecting in "download mode" reinstall the SOMC driver, then give new flasher a try once more...
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I havent got that notification. Do you have a specific newflasher that does it? If so can you share the link?