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Hello dear members
I'd like to ask if an everyday charge will harm my battery.
It's my first week with my phone, and I can't keep my hands off it
As a result, battery runs out every day!! So I charge it...
Will something happen to the battery?
thanks in advance
This phone has a litium ion battery. They don't have a memory effect but in the first time they need some time to become the full potential. So it doesn't matter if you charge the phone every day.
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Thank you so much!!!!
It's a relief
To maintain better battery life it might be a good idea to make sure that u dont fully drain the battery
That shouldn't be a problem the most battery's should have electronic inside to prevent this but I can't guarantee it. You can read also the Wikipedia article about lithium ion batteries it's quite interesting.
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
Thanks so much everyone Point taken
I'll never let it fall under 10%.
Well, Battery is average. If it weren't for the 2.3.3 bug, it would rock! In order for it to be normal, I keep ****ting Services.(under Services menu) like Voice talk, SocialHub(which drains a lot of battery) etc
Anyways, thanks to everyone
Sleepycat3 said:
It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
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Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
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I'm glad this thread exists. I'm so used to running a battery down to the minimum before charging it that I probably would have been in that habit for my SGS2. I'd actually come here to ask the same question now I've been through my first four or five "full" -> "red" -> "charge to full while off" cycles.
Is it confirmed both from the SGS2 & LION technology point of view to now keep it charged up, even if using only half/quarter charges etc to do so?
My battery is giving me around 40 hours a time so not too bad but I'd like to keep it running as well as I can.......
ithehappy said:
Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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Nope. Li-ion batteries these days prefer constant top-ups and full drain actually kills it faster. Totally opposite of what people have been taught over years of NiCD battery use that I've got friends who absolutely refuse to charge their iPhones unless it's at 10% or less. Their loss.
ithehappy said:
Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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No that's only good to do once in a while. Full discharges daily put stress on the cells and wear out li ion batteries quicker.
CarpathianUK said:
I'm glad this thread exists. I'm so used to running a battery down to the minimum before charging it that I probably would have been in that habit for my SGS2. I'd actually come here to ask the same question now I've been through my first four or five "full" -> "red" -> "charge to full while off" cycles.
Is it confirmed both from the SGS2 & LION technology point of view to now keep it charged up, even if using only half/quarter charges etc to do so?
My battery is giving me around 40 hours a time so not too bad but I'd like to keep it running as well as I can.......
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Yes it's common for all lithium ion batteries to charge as often as possible. Its true for all phones on the market today and quite a lot of discussion on this is all around the web.
Also a replacement stock battery for any cell phone today is around 20 dollars, so really you can't do much wrong since its so cheap to buy a new OEM battery replacement.
Thanks for the replies. I think this will catch a few people out so hope the thread doesn't get missed amongst all the other battery ones!
Looks like I'd better change my charging habits!
Hi all, after a lots of pots from a lots of users claiming their battery is great or their battery is ok and even that their battery is a crap... I decided to open this thread to share my opinion with you all and see how many of you think like me.
Here it comes:
For me, BATTERY LIFE is how GOOD-OK-BAD our battery behaves and how much it lasts WHILE USING THE PHONE.
Having looooong periods of deep sleep is just the Stand-By 640hrs that Samsung itself offers with its ACE.
Under heavy use, ACE is supposed to last at least 11hrs using 2g and 6hrs using 3g.
Me just quoting Samsung and GSM ARENA
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If you do the math, most of the people that claim to have a HUGE battery life have their phones on DEEP SLEEP (Stand By) MOST OF THE TIME, plus they don't use 3g but WI-FI.
So, when they say: HEY BRO, I unplugged my phone 1 day ago and my battery is still at 30% and then they put a graphic on it you can see that about 20 hours the phone have been deep sleeping. Then you use it and PUFFF!!! A huge percent down...
I don't know if you know what I mean, english is not my first languaje... But what I'm trying to say is...
Battery life is most of the times the same WHEN USING THE PHONE!
Dude stop worrying too much abt battery... Simple battery rule. Charge it when its less than 20%... Let it drain by its own.. Then charge again... There s something called life explore it...
WOW!! What a superb reply... Great, wonderful, splendid...
You're so wise... OMG I can't even believe you took time to reply my request... Thank you Oh Lord!!!
Sigh!
My battery drains so fast on my home wi-fi I tend to browse whilst charging for most of the time (I'm sure it's not recommended). Wish I knew where people get the improved stats for wi-fi over 2g/3g from.
Of course samsung is gonna claim great battery life, they have to sell.
On my experience, i use the phone constantly with 3g for whatsapp and music all the time. I still charge it every night and thats ok. Its a smartphone, a micro computer. Unplugg your lap top and see how long it lasts! If you cannot get a day of battery, youre using your phone too much. The biggest battery hog is your screen, turn it off when not using, lower brightness, dont use 3g and 2g at the same time. Otherwise, get a stupidphone and marvel at your 5 day battery life.
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themountig said:
My battery drains so fast on my home wi-fi I tend to browse whilst charging for most of the time (I'm sure it's not recommended). Wish I knew where people get the improved stats for wi-fi over 2g/3g from.
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The point about WiFi/3G/2G and battery stats is that if the phone isn't having to work hard to get its connection then it won't drain so much battery. So for example, I have almost no 3G coverage and no WiFi hotspot for miles, urgo if I have them both on the phone will search hard for them and drain battery. I have only 2G allowed and that works for me.
Technically if I had a WI-FI hotspot I should use that because it should provide better coverage than either 2G or 3G, and so the phone won't have to work so hard to get connectivity.
How strong is the signal for your WI-FI, is it very changeable?
I sit about 2m below it and it locks in seconds, varies between 2 and 3 bars on indication. Perceived drain is battery falls from 100% to charge warning in 3 - 4hrs approx.
themountig said:
I sit about 2m below it and it locks in seconds, varies between 2 and 3 bars on indication. Perceived drain is battery falls from 100% to charge warning in 3 - 4hrs approx.
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Do you have data switched off?
Bakuron said:
Do you have data switched off?
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Data switches off automatically when you are connected to the internet thru wi-fi!
my ace drains battery fastest when i play games,when playing any game 10-15 minutes my battery drains for like 10%
i have good battery life ,,about 36hours when using wifi
the problem of my battery life only happens when the phone is on. I've tried turning it off for a few days and the battery held up too long. So my advice for the battery last long, its always keep the phone off, and use it to shoot on someone's head (devs?). You may even withdraw the battery, lasts longer without recharging.
I suggest that someone makes a rom that doesnt work and keep the phone off, and we will have long battery life
Please hit tanks if I didnt help you
What you just said defies the actual purpose for which the phones were built.
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Venomous Viper 119 said:
What you just said defies the actual purpose for which the phones were built.
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You do know what sarcasm is, right?
Battery on Ace just sucks. It's that simple. If you can't accept that, then it's time to get a newer phone.
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sauron82 said:
You do know what sarcasm is, right?
Battery on Ace just sucks. It's that simple. If you can't accept that, then it's time to get a newer phone.
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Battery on ace sucks. Everyone knows that. But it is pointless keeping it off. If you're free, make use of it ! And BTW, even a boot drains its battery such an ill fate.
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Venomous Viper 119 said:
What you just said defies the actual purpose for which the phones were built.
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That was the intention. You got that I was joking, right?:angel:
I dont want to shoot on devs heads with my dear SGA (only sometimes :laugh
qashqool said:
That was the intention. You got that I was joking, right?:angel:
I dont want to shoot on devs heads with my dear SGA (only sometimes :laugh
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I knew. But someone seemed to be really worried
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In my case, I've had the best battery life duration with StockRom Lite, AceOne (this seems to fly in my phone).
The AceOne rom seems to "survive" between 16- 18 hours in my chase listening music, checking some emails with 3G (not 16 hours, time by time).
I've installed a rom made by Nathan (TouchWiz) and I was worried about the battery's duration, but since I've installed nims kernel it works better, I'm gonna view how it works
Hi, folks
These are tips for improving the battery life of your SGS2 :
1.Set the wallpaper , with dark or black images
Set the brightness to 10%
2.When you are not using data , please turn it off . Using 3G data will suck lots of juice !!
On the other hand Wifi doesn't suck so much juice
Now the next steps are the most important
3.Please do keep charging between very short intervals ,
Let the battery charge drop to 5-10% then charge till it reaches 100% , this will considerably , increase your battery life .
4.Do not let your phone keep charging for a very long time ,even after it reaches 100%.
This will damage the battery .
Actually when your phone shows that it has been fully charged (100%),it has only been charged for 95% , so plug in for a few more minutes ,for some extra juice .
5.Do not install lots and lots of unused and useless apps ,as they will not only occupy memory , but will also suck the juice out of your phone !!
6.Delete unused widgets from home screen
7.Close unwanted apps running in the background.
Go to task manager and press the ,'clear memory' button frequently .
8.Do not use the charger of other mobile phones , even if they have the same pin ,as this will slowly damage the battery
9.Use only original Samsung battery made for your SGS2 , duplicate or other battery will not only be waste of money , but will also damage your phone !!
10.Sugesstion are welcome , you can posted it , so that i can add it !!
11.If you know a few extra tips , please post it or PM me
12.If you like this tread please rate it !!
13.Please press the thanks button , if you like this post and if i helped increase the battery life of your SGS2
These things helped me improve the battery life of my SGS2 ,I hope it also help you considerably increase the battery life of your SGS2 too
Cheers ,
I'm new to XDA. A "NOOB" as we are called here. I applaud your intentions to help fellow GSII owners out, but senior members are about to fry and roast you with " you should have searched first,post later" . Read,Read and read more. While I generally despise when certain senior members feel the need to be mini moderators and verbally assault new members. Please save yourself some future heartache by doing just that. Enjoy this beast of a phone.
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While I appreciate you giving advice to our members about battery life, you have some flaws in your tips
ashwinsrihari said:
1.Set the wallpaper , with dark or black images
Use autobrightness or set the brightness to 10% <-- First you tell people to turn on autobrightness, then you tell people to turn it off and keep it at 10%. Which do you recommend? You can't suggest both. Also, autobrightness will drain your battery more.
4.Do not let your phone keep charging even after it reaches 100%.
This will damage the battery .
Actually when your phone shows that it has been fully charged (100%),it has only been charged for 95% , so plug in for a few more minutes ,for some extra juice . <-- Again, you're contradicting yourself. You're telling people not to charge passed 100% but then you tell them to charge passed 100% because you can get more juice? Pick one.
7.Close unwanted apps running in the background.
Go to task manager and press the ,'clear memory' button frequently .<-- You're wasting more battery by telling Android that you dont want those apps in memory because the OS will just add it back into memory (thus, using more battery to do so). This is only good if you have a rogue app that is killing the battery, otherwise just let the OS do its job.
9.Use only original Samsung battery made for your SGS2 , duplicate or other battery will not only be waste of money , but will also damage your phone !! <-- While I can't really speak for sure because I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure generic batteries will not kill your phone if they're designed for the phone. We have a lot of members that use generic batteries and their phones run just fine.
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but please let me know if I read your post wrong...
also,
Turning off sync, preventing app updates...
ashwinsrihari said:
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Let the battery charge drop to 5-10% then charge till it reaches 100% , this will considerably , increase your battery life
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Lithium Ion batteries "prefer" short charges.
What's written is applicable to Nickel Cadmium batteries, where charging after partially draining the battery will reduce its capacity.
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I have a 3500mAh battery that lasts me 60-80 hours per charge, and it hasn't given me a single problem.
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graffixnyc said:
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I lold
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Plasmamuffins said:
I have a 3500mAh battery that lasts me 60-80 hours per charge, and it hasn't given me a single problem.
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Where'd you get it? I bought a cheap extended one off ebay and it was great, but after about 3 months it was lasting as long as the stock battery.
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Allow me this time...
OP, while helpful posts are always welcome here, it is advisable to search before posting (actually, it is a rule...). In this case, the points here have been commonly discussed already, with some being a point of contention.
To keep things from going out of control, i will go ahead and close this, but say thanks for a genuine effort..
hello xda forum i love how everyone is awesome, thanks for this awesome forum
Look i have this problem, my battery really isn't lasting for no more than 3 hours a day, until it gets to 1%, then it gets stuck in 1% and i use it for like 2 hours and no problem, then it dies, but it is like all the power is concentrated on the 1% what can i do to fix that?
Or to show the right battery tats/Percent?
monose1 said:
hello xda forum i love how everyone is awesome, thanks for this awesome forum
Look i have this problem, my battery really isn't lasting for no more than 3 hours a day, until it gets to 1%, then it gets stuck in 1% and i use it for like 2 hours and no problem, then it dies, but it is like all the power is concentrated on the 1% what can i do to fix that?
Or to show the right battery tats/Percent?
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Calibrating your battery stats may help. Is your phone rooted?
If it is, install 'Battery Calibration' from the Play Store, let your phone charge to 100% (I usually let my phone charging overnight), open the app, select the 'calibrate battery' button and reboot afterwards.
Then let your phone discharge until it turns itself off, and you're good to go.
Thanks I'll try that.
Will tell if it worked.
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if the problem continue ....try to install new official rom...this may help u a lot....
Hey guys
On the weekends I'm usually home and I do use my phone quite a bit..but I'm mostly sitting at my computer doing so.
Is it better for me to keep the phone plugged in or should I be letting it drain? I heard that large drain cycles are not good for the battery and will wear it out faster...I've learnt that with my original Samsung battery...I have an extended one, now.
I've searched around...some people say one thing, others say the opposite...so what's the deal, really?
Thanks,
Elliott
The battery is desinged to be drained, you can always use your device plugged in when you are about to run outta juice.
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Right...but if I'm going to be texting constantly on the phone...is it better to just leave the phone on charge while I'm using it, or keep draining it/charging it back up?
As I said, use it.
If battery is low, just charge it while you do.
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Thanks.
Anyone else have any info on this?
Elliott
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There was an article on XDA a while ago about the battery in mobile phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
Summary:
It doesnt matter if you keep it plugged in or not. It will do no damage to it.
What you shouldn't do with this kind of battery is draining it to 0% like some people suggest. In fact it is better to keep it charged above 40% to maximize the lifetime of your battery.
Here is also an other thread about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914417
Thanks for the threads.
The first and 2nd threads you posted through, seem to contradict each other.
The first thread said
Hence constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Avoid letting it sit on empty for too long; instead, keep it charged-up if you can.
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Avoid keeping your battery at 100%: Every source I referenced for this guide said the same thing about keeping your battery at a full capacity, but oranageinks.com explains [...]
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lol, we gotta get a lithium battery Ph.D here
I never let my battery die on me, I only do it once to get rid of fuel gauge (although some say that it fixs it on it own after three days or so) whenever I flash a new ROM.
I always let it frain to 15 % or something like that.
Starholdest said:
Thanks for the threads.
The first and 2nd threads you posted through, seem to contradict each other.
The first thread said
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It doesnt really contradict each other. They warn you about heat that is bad for your battery when charged to 100%. Keeping your phone at 100% in a hot enviroment does more damage then having it at 40% in the same enviroment. The same applies to running an app that keeps your cpu running constantly thus heating up your phone.. But in normal circumstances it shouldnt do harm.
It sounds like someone is obsessed about their battery not being at 100% all the time.
Charging and discharging your battery shortens it's life. This is the way it was designed.
Chill, it's just a phone, not an artificial heart
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Lennyz1988 said:
It doesnt really contradict each other. They warn you about heat that is bad for your battery when charged to 100%. Keeping your phone at 100% in a hot enviroment does more damage then having it at 40% in the same enviroment. The same applies to running an app that keeps your cpu running constantly thus heating up your phone.. But in normal circumstances it shouldnt do harm.
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Well I think they clearly contradict each other...one says to keep your battery charged up, the other says not to keep it at 100%...
I understand about the heat degrading batteries...but that's another discussion completely.
Anyone else have any opinion?
f-r said:
It sounds like someone is obsessed about their battery not being at 100% all the time.
Charging and discharging your battery shortens it's life. This is the way it was designed.
Chill, it's just a phone, not an artificial heart
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I wouldn't call myself obsessed...I'm just wondering if leaving it plugged in for a good portion of the day will reduce it's life. Because I did that with my original Samsung battery and it's barely usable for me now...just wondering if leaving it plugged in for long periods of time diminished it's life over a year and a half.
I think batteries don't like to be plugged all the time.
For what i've read in the last 4 years nobody knows exactly what's good and what's not for them.
You be the judge.
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