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has anyone come across the problem that when you move to say 3g from gsm or back or you loose signal as your in a bad signal area and then get it back, the phone actually looses the radio says "operation failed" and relocks on to the signal?
mine will sometimes loose the signal need restarting and on the boot screen will show NOGSM when its clearly installed as it worked 20seconds ago. i have tried many types of radio rangeing from 1.07 to 1.41 and all their varients. i am at a loss why my phone just looses it and then forgets it has actually lost it untill i try to make a call or send an sms. no calls or sms's can be received by me whilst the phones done this and it does it a hell of a lot.
sometimes it also just looses the radio half way through a call or data call.
anyone got any ideas?
i have a m3100
IPL 1.04
bootloader 2.10oli
and the XDA live OS installed. however it does it on any OS i have tried so far. and thats alot of them.
Same for me.
Same problem for me.
Often I get the message "operation failed" or "the phone is not ready, wait 15 seconds and try again". Thought it was a problem with the new 1.38 radio, but it seems to be something different.
i also get all those error msg's. i have no idea how to fix it either and no 1 here seems to have a clue either :-(
i Had the same problem with mine it due to hardware i guess. Your phone might have fell down or something then this kind of problem starts I fixed mine by opening my phone up and fixed the arial part properly
torrentulla
is there a guide you follow for that or can you give me any tips to do it myself?
thanks
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torrentulla
is there a guide you follow for that or can you give me any tips to do it myself?
thanks
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I fixed my phone almost the same way as Torrentulla did. I'm my case it seems that something was damaged when I dropped my phone a few weeks back. I discovered that when I pushed at a spot right below the flashlight that the radio kept coming up all the time.
These are the steps I took to repair:
Remove all 4 screws (very small torx) at the back of your hermes
Remove back
Put a little piece of paper on the "pressure" spot
Put your phone back together
Turn it on and enjoy!
I hope you'll manage to fix yours aswell!
Phone sometimes shows No GSM, fails to ring
Hey guys, I posted this in the dead hermes thread, but decided to post it here as it's not really bricked. I think it may be a faulty component or something.
My phone was working fine this morning, then in the afternoon I noticed I would have to try to make a call 3 or 4 times before it would go through, it kept on giving me the error (Can't connect, or something along those lines).
Then, I checked my voicemail and found that I had 10 messages from people who had been trying to get in touch with me, but my phone hadn't been ringing.
The kicker came when I soft reset my phone and all of a sudden No GSM popped up! I soft reset it again, and it was gone, and worked fine for a couple of hours. Now its back to not ringing again.
I flashed radio 1.41.00.10 about a week ago, and have been running fine with no problems since. I haven't flashed any rom's in the past week, and this problem just started yesterday. No new software has been installed (except Pimp my black v0.1).
I don't know a lot about the radio, but I didn't think it could become corrupted during regular use, I thought you could only mess it up when you were flashing the phone. I wonder if there is something wrong with the radio? Could the hardware be faulty? This phone is about 8 months old and hasn't had any problems up to this date.
I'm going to flash radio 1.40.10.0 again and see if that makes a difference, but I'd like to know if anyone has any ideas as to what could be causing this.
Sorry this post was so long,
Thanks
-Kai
it seems i don't have a pressure point on mine as the radio is working as and when it likes. which is not alot
gotta sort it out somehow, will take it apart and see if theres anything obvious.
I have the same problem too, phone sometimes shows NO GSM on startup and sometimes it works. Here's where I posted : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306073
Now its not even showing NO GSM it just says: NONE, NONE
Also, I noticed that it will only last about 6 hours on a full charge before the battery is absolutely dead.
I'm beginning to think that it may be my radio 1.41.00.10
It seems strange that all of these people are suddenly having this problem now.
Whats the warranty like on these devices? Is it a 1 years parts and defects warranty? Or is it some ****ty 90 day warranty?
As it is my phone is a piece of garbage, not worth using at all, I am very disapointed in it.
It's a hardware problem.
Hi guys,
I'm experiencing the same problems since two months and I've been struggling with all kind of OS, ROM, RADIO and bootloader, without even gettin close to solve them.
My phone randomly loads the RADIO (otherwise I get the "No Gsm" message), even when loaded, the connection is not suitable and my phone is often unreachable on the net. The battery life is very short because the phone always looses the signal and then seraches till he find it, before loosing it again.
So I disassembled my phone and did a lot of testing with hardware connections. I have found that the motherboard connection with the flash/scroll module isn't stable at all. You can easily move it and find that this affects the phone ability to load the RADIO. It seem strange but it's true. I can't solve the problem and I'm very upset with HTC because of their hardware components lack of quality. I would like to try to change the module to but I can't find a place where i can buy HTC hardware parts.
So I'm going to change my pda, I'll never buy HTC anymore.
Any help?
Has anyone figured out the problem? If it is hardware, what "pressure" spot is it? I tried, but wondered if I'm not in the right place.
In my case it was a spot right below the flash/scroll-part. As said earlier, i put a piece of paper on the spot and reassembled the phone. It still works excellent after a week!
My dopod can't connect to the mobile network as well, but only with the 3 network. It seems fine when being connected to an Optus network. Have you guys tried using a different network simcard?
I'm not sure if mine is a physical problem but maybe a setting which i need to configure so i can connect to a 3 network. Help anyone?
ROM version : Pro BLACK 3.0
ROM date : 01/04/07
Radio version : 1.41.00.10
mine also works just under the flash with the cover off, but if i hold it too hard then the screen goes all white and doesn't work, until i can get the case off its a hit and miss game at the moment.
thanks very much for the tips and help
Dan
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So I'm going to change my pda, I'll never buy HTC anymore.
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I cannot agree with this more.
I am sick to death of this phone. I had one of the first in the country for normal sales and spent weeks arguing with HTC who flatly denied the screen alignment issue. EVENTUALLY I got them to fix this after referencing posts in this forum.
I continued to suffer the "coma" software issue - why is it so F*((&&^ dificult for a device to wake up when its auto-sleeped?
And finaly, to top it off, I have been suffering this problem. I cannot express how mad I am. Did I buy a cheap phone? NO. I have had nothing but problems with this phone and will NOT buy another HTC.
Oh and if anyone knows how to repair a failed Radio upgrade, please help me! I don't have any choice but to use it until the IMate Ultimates come out.
Due to seeing this radio problem I thought I would try downgrading the radio from 1.4.summint or other (the latest) to a slightly older version. This was of course before I saw this thread. During the downgrade the installer stopped at 15%. Now no matter what I do it sits at the IPL/SPL screen (3 colour bars+white). I have done the obvious i.e. follow the installers error procedure (remove the battery).
Device: HERM200
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.10.Olipro
Please help me be able to use this for another month or two at most - i hope!
Thanks guys
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OK Guys
thanks to this thread: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
I now have it trying to boot the o/s. I get the message "No GSM" on the boot screen but when it boots up it asks me for my pin number and freezes. I guess its locking up because it has no "phone" part? According to the instructions in the other thread I am supposed to flash it again but I can't as the phone locks on boot.....
Any ideas?
*FINALY* got it back into pre-flash feck up situation. Sadly, this still leaves me with the hardware problem. HTC can go poke themselves until the cows come home. Im taking my money somewhere else.
This is really killing me, someone please help lol heres how it goes
On boot, takes a good bit for the 3G icon to appear, eventually Phone has 3G icon gray with arrows then switches to D [still gray], i click something like a browser or Slack Radio it goes to connect and if its fast enough it does [icon changes to RED/GREEN arrows] but usually its a gray D, then the icon disappears completely. After about 60 seconds or so the icon reappears and I can continuing surfing the net/listen to music..etc. Then after about a song or 2 this happens all over again. Im in place with good reception and i just dont know what could be going on here. I tried pulling battery, doing the *228 option 2...anyone know how i can fix this
just tried hard reset, no dice
A nice excuse to call verizon and get a replacement device (most likely for free).
I've called them, they try and shoot me over to Samsung, samsung trying to tell me to get a hold of my 3G service provider...verizon did tell me i was due to upgrade, but i love this phone (when 3G worked) i just dont understand what froyo did, when im downloading stuff it works fine, but as soon as I stop and try to access something use 3G i have to wait for the 3G to "reboot" so to speak cuz thats when it disappears for minute, then comes back for me to use...but with streaming music you can see how this is an issue
I was having this same problem when they were pushing the EA28 update a couple of weeks ago which never successfully updated to my device I might add. I went into the Verizon store and after the rep spent about 10min on the phone with whoever.... Told me they were sending me a new phone. Received new phone with the EA28 update already installed 3G and all data worked GREAT! Attempted the Froyo update 6 times yesterday all unsuccessful and now the new phone I have is having the exact same problems with data connection. Comments and ideas would be appreciated. But ya better believe I'm goin into Verizon if the update attempt I'm doing now doesnt work.
I'd get another replacement from verizon tbh. If then it still doesn't resolve your issues ask to speak with a manager and tell him your situation. They might hook you up with a free upgrade.
Im going to go down to the store so I can get a face to face and show them whats happening. I mean i just wanted to make sure this wasnt some new thing on Froyo that im not understanding. I see it goes "D" [dormant] but it shouldnt disappear and take a minute to start up and let me use it right...thats poppycock!
Are you using "juice defender" by any chance?
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You're lucky that yours just takes a minute to re-establish the connection, mine will just keep giving me network errors and telling me to check network access ect., depending on what app/service I am trying to connect. Exactly the same things that happened when the EA28 updates kept failing on my last phone only 2weeks ago. Also the Froyo update that says will take 15min to download takes over an hour even though my 3g stays on constantly when downloading from Verizon.
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Are you using "juice defender" by any chance?
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Had it installed [but not in use] when I updated to Froyo, but I just did a hard reset and am still getting issues...
...my Froyo update came in in about a 1/2 hour or so, no drop issues ever when I was on 2.1, my 3G icon stayed in the status bar even when I was out of service range [it would go in to 1X] but on froyo its just disappearing no matter where i am]
This crap has happened ever since the first "froyo" modem leak for me (but not like I could call vzw and complain though until now) and had to resort to using the DL09 modem to increase my usage reliability by a small percentage. This crappy service only seems to affect people in certain regions, you all see where I live (look to the left) and you guys should update your profiles to reflect at least a region. I odin'd all the way to stock and did the ota's to froyo and ran stock froyo for 2 days with the same old ****ty results. I did get a replacement (in february) and still got the same exact dBm signal levels and data speeds at home that I had with the other device. But the voice mails with no missed calls and bulk texts and data lockups are really getting on my ****in' nerves. I'm so glad they finally did the ota cause I can guarantee that the issue will be wide spread in various regions. I spend all day driving around in a work truck with a coworker that has an epic (sprint) and he has absolute perfection in his service everywhere throughout the city. At the end of a 10 hour day I will have rebooted twice and have tws at 47% coworkers tws will be at 1% and he pays $35 less for unlimited everything, which is a kick in head too. Pondering etf to maintain my sanity and not be worried that my 70 year old mother is trying to call me with an emergency and having my **** go to voicemail. Now on to customer service to build a case. Ugh, pissed off rant over.
*edit* I use no juice defenders no task killers no set cpu or anything even remotely close to apps of that nature.
good day.
Not running juice defender or anything else for that matter, my phone is basically stock out of the box right now other than CWM 2.5.1, un-rooted. I did flash super user to phone after I received it, and that still appears in my apps list after factory reset but I am not rooted.
I've spent at least 8-10 hours [combined] searching the internet for issues like mine with the disappearing act the 3G icon is putting on, and i've noticed it to be a Froyo issue [even saw some complains on the Incredible on froyo and even on different networks other than verizon]. I'm not 100% sure its a Froyo bug, but either way it doesnt seem to affect everyone. I stream music a lot and i can't be having this damn 3G disappear on me and always reconnecting after like every 2 songs.....im off to verizon, i'll let you know what happens [tho they are prob going to offer me some kinda upgrade like they did on the phone, but i was happy with this phone at 2.1 and overall still am, i just want my 3G to stop glitching!]
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I've spent at least 8-10 hours [combined] searching the internet for issues like mine with the disappearing act the 3G icon is putting on, and i've noticed it to be a Froyo issue [even saw some complains on the Incredible on froyo and even on different networks other than verizon]. I'm not 100% sure its a Froyo bug, but either way it doesnt seem to affect everyone. I stream music a lot and i can't be having this damn 3G disappear on me and always reconnecting after like every 2 songs.....im off to verizon, i'll let you know what happens [tho they are prob going to offer me some kinda upgrade like they did on the phone, but i was happy with this phone at 2.1 and overall still am, i just want my 3G to stop glitching!]
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I agree, just want my 3G to work the way it is suppose to. Dont really want an upgrade because I've never really gotten an upgrade that I actually thought was an UP-Grade. *From Verizon anyway* Still downloading software update, been well over an hour and at 73%. At this rate Verizon store will be closed by the time I'm done with this update attempt.
"UPDATE FAILED or INCOMPLETE. reason: IP_START_UPDATE" Anybody know the possible causes of this failure?
Sounds like you are indeed losing your IP address. I have also had sporadic problems but they seem to be in low service areas. Typically I remain stationary and use local wifi so it is unconfirmed.
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Just got back from Verizon, non of the techs could figure it out, i got this phone awhile back from a friend [so naturally theres no warrenty..etc] so im stuck gonna have to hit craigslist and such to find a new one, then sell this one i guess
FINALLY FOUND A FIX [or should i say it found its way to me thanks to myself posting this issue on multiple forums lol] I can confirm that method 2 has worked for me. Dont just dial *228 with fascinate already activated, you have to remove the service completely [by activating another phone is how i did it] then reactivate it and you should be good to go. Heres a write up.
http://mobiletech.knguyentu.com/2011/04/samsung-fascinate-random-3g-disconnect.html
I just started haveing this problem when I went on the Comm. ROM
I was fine before that so I am really confused.
update:
So I did option 2 in the above post and it fixed it.
MSHancock said:
I just started haveing this problem when I went on the Comm. ROM
I was fine before that so I am really confused.
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So I did option 2 in the above post and it fixed it.
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Glad to hear it, i know how frustrating it is not knowing what is going on or how to fix it. I searched since Froyo OTA looking for an answer, luckily someone saw my plight and gave me that link as well so i thought i'd share it on all the android forums i have a name on. Cuz doin this never occurred to me and i tried everything else lol
I searched signal loss, and dropped signal but could not find a thread that matched my problem. I have found some people with similar problems through google search but I haven't seen any fixes.
Here we go...
I got my first atrix BRAND NEW in July. It ran perfect! Updated to GB, factory reset it and everything was working great. Couple weeks later it started doing random restarts. It got to the point where it would lock up at the M logo for 10-20 min or sometimes even constantly so I would have to pull the battery. It got so bad that I had to take it in for warranty. I had this phone for over a month with NO signal problems what so ever.
I get the 1st remanufactured Atrix and it is dropping signal left and right. I called up ATT and jumped through their hoops, turned it off, let them mess with it, factory reset it and NOTHING. Still had the same problem, would go from 3 bars to 4 bars then it will drop signal and the red circle will show up. probably happens about 5 times per minute.
They tell me to take it back, so I oblige. I go up to the warranty center and they give me a new sim card and say that should fix it.... NOPE, Still doing the same exact thing so I take it back up there again. The give me another(#2) remanufactured phone. I finish the setup and guess what... Still have a worthless signal and it is dropping out a lot.
For reference, signals on the first two replacement atrix's are running anywhere from 84dbm up to 120dbm and hangs most of the time around 96dbm.
I am now on my FOURTH remanufactured Atrix(5th overall) and still having the same problem. ATT are being total douche nozzles as they will not release me from my contract. I have spent over 30 hours dealing with them on this problem thus far and I am getting extremely tired of it.
Just for reference, my Wife has an I4 and she is not experiencing any of these problems. I also travel a lot and I experience the same problem in Dallas(home), Midlothian(hour south of Dallas), Washington DC, Tennessee, Virginia and Maryland among other places. I am pretty sure this is a software glitch since it happens wherever I am.
I have a home office and work from home. I told ATT that if this was happening with my original BRAND NEW Atrix that I would have taken it back in a heartbeat. There is not a chance I would deal with losing data and dropping signal for over a month with a brand new phone.
So, my question I guess is this. If this is a software problem, would it be best to try and root and see if that fixes it? Or will that not change a problem like this. The remanufactured phones came with 2.3 installed while my first one had 2.2 and I had to upgrade it myself. Is there a way I can remove 2.3 from this phone and reinstall it to see if that fixes it? I am completely open to suggestions as I have run out of options.
I know exactly what you mean. I also had 3-4 *new* atrixs right from att. (Around late July) Every time instead of addressing the problems, they just gave me a new device. Eventually I decided to root and unlock my bootloader. BEST decision that I could have made. As soon as I installed a different ROM it was as if I had a new device. I was about to exchange it for a different device and now I'm really glad that I didn't. For the signal issues I would try flashing a new radio to see if that helps at all.
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My first atrix was like that and it was a refurbished one. On my 2nd, it is completely fine. I think you should tell them to send you NEW atrix instead of a refurb.
that sounds like really terrible luck. i a agree, i think it would help a lot if you rooted your phone and installed some custom rom. although there may be truth with what Semseddin and might actually still be something awry with the refurbs
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My first atrix was like that and it was a refurbished one. On my 2nd, it is completely fine. I think you should tell them to send you NEW atrix instead of a refurb.
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that sounds like really terrible luck. i a agree, i think it would help a lot if you rooted your phone and installed some custom rom. although there may be truth with what Semseddin and might actually still be something awry with the refurbs
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Unfortunately I have tried to get them to send me a new phone but they will not do it. I tried several times, even talked to the managers about it and nothing.
What is ridiculous is that when my first phone crashed I was only like 14 days past the return period where I could have received a NEW Atrix. I tried explaining this too them and they would not do anything to help me. I have been with Cingular/ATT for over 10 years and they obviously didn't care.
I think i will just try a new rom and see how that goes.
Hmm..well if you've absolutely made up ur mind on rooting ur phone and installing custom roms then i would recommend u to use the DarkSide ROM since it seems to have most of the fixes u need (including the signal loss..See ChangeLog for more)
Also, if u've already tried Randomverll's idea of flashing a new radio and still it didn't help, it may be a hardware problem..anyway try flashing a new rom and see
So this has been happening randomly on calls for about two weeks now. I'm still on Stock everything and would like to know if this is a known problem, if something is wrong with my phone, or if there is a fix? I'm past the point of returning and getting a new one and plus, I have grown atattched to this phone LOL.
I've tried hitting speaker and then turning it off but that doesn't work. Tried ticking mute and then unticking it, not working either. Reboot doesn't work. Resetting back to stock doesn't change it either.
Thanks to all.
AJ
Sounds like a typical ATT phone call. Would you and the person on the other end both happen to be on speaker phone? I cannot have a call via speaker to my wife if she is on speaker (which see insists on using) - there is too much voxing going on, I only hear every couple of syllables.
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Not a speaker phone call. Seems like it happens mostly when I make calls from speed dial from my homepage screen. I can't conf
irm that last bit though lol.
Another question is this....I just turned my phone completely off and it had 42 % battery. When I turned it back on it now has 22% left.....what in the world is going on lol???
Would I be better off reverting back to 2.3.4? Or just getti
ng another sgs2?
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ng another sgs2?
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I need more details to say this for sure, but I THINK you may be having the same issue I had. Not many people seem to have this issue (only seen a handful across a variety of forums). So if you happen to be a fellow sufferer, then welcome to the club!
My problem was:
After the 2.3.6 update (UCKK6), the person on the other line had trouble hearing me because my voice cut in and out frequently, yet randomly. On my end though, they came in nice and clear. I often had to deal with people hanging up on me because they thought my call dropped or that I hung up, or had to deal with a lot of people repeating "hello? hello!? You there!?" as I helplessly tried responding and not being heard.
My Solution(s):
1) keep the 2.3.6 update, but flash just the 2.3.4 (UCKH7) modem. Everything on your phone will work fine, but you will get the following FALSE warnings (FALSE as in the phone says it can't do something, yet everything works fine anyways. These are only based on first-hand experience and may not happen to you.)
a) upon boot (not wake/unlock) there will be an error notification about you not being able to access your external memory card due to security reasons... don't worry, its bull.
b) when using your phone as a mass media storage device, you will get a notification about the mass storage function not being able to work... this message is also bull.
2) Or you can just completely return to 2.3.4 (UCKH7) and either ignore the update prompts or freeze the process until a newer update that hopefully fixes our problem (or ICS) is released.
I did (1) for about 2 weeks then did (2) after reading all the battery complaints blamed on UCKK6. It reverted just to play it safe with battery life (plus they say that "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" and for me, UCKH7 wasn't broken and the update definitely broke it).
Wow, that sounds identical to me except its they can hear me but I can't hear them LOL. I reverted last night with odin one click downloader and the stock kernel for battery life so we will see what's going to happen today. Is this a phone problem physically or is it software?
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AJ
For me, its a software issue (modem to be specific) because it only happens on UCKK6 (and the leaked UCKJ1, UCKJ2, and UCKJ4) and when on UCKH7, my calls are as clear as a LAN line.
I say that if the problem still exists now, then its hardware. In that case, try contacting Samsung for a replacement if your ATT warranty is up. You could try ATT too because its a defective phone and they may still do something.
I've been having issues where I will make a call or receive a call and the other person can't hear me. It doesn't happen every call which is strange. The microphone works in Google Now and other apps.
I'm on the new firmware 4.13 and currently running Viper 4.0.0 though the issue started earlier when I was running Sin's Sense 5.5 rom. Before switching to Viper 4.0, I re-ran the firmware zips from Capt which wiped my internal sd and did a full wipe, but that didn't seem to help. I have not done the official HTC Ruu yet. I do not use PCs at home so I've not had access to a stable PC yet. That is the next thing on my list to try but I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced something similar.
I've tried cleaning the microphone holes, both the one at the bottom and the one at the top. It happens some times and not others which makes it hard to track down.
Thanks for any help!
Your mic is probably beginning to fail. The same thing happened to my first Evo LTE that I purchased. The entire process took about 2-3 months. Eventually, it might stop working completely.
While I'm not saying that this is definitely the case for you, it is very likely, as I had the same experience. Reflashing your firmware should be the first step, then run a RUU if the firmware flash doesn't help. If not, you might need a new phone, buddy.
My main advice is to activate Sprint TEP insurance from now ($5 per month), if you dint have any. Depending on the problem, they replace your device for free. But you can't enter Sprint with the problem.
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Your mic is probably beginning to fail. The same thing happened to my first Evo LTE that I purchased. The entire process took about 2-3 months. Eventually, it might stop working completely.
While I'm not saying that this is definitely the case for you, it is very likely, as I had the same experience. Reflashing your firmware should be the first step, then run a RUU if the firmware flash doesn't help. If not, you might need a new phone, buddy.
My main advice is to activate Sprint TEP insurance from now ($5 per month), if you dint have any. Depending on the problem, they replace your device for free. But you can't enter Sprint with the problem.
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Thanks! As this problem has been happening more often in the past few weeks, I bit the bullet last night and ordered a M8. Darn, I just had to upgrade... hehe
But your comment does touch on another question I had. I guess Sprint still offers more than one level of insurance? I used to have the full TEP for $11 per month, but cancelled it after I was due for a new phone. I bought the M8 and added it back on, but with HTC's new screen replacement policy, I'm wondering if I should try to downgrade the full TEP to something smaller, and less $ per month. Is there still a lower tier?
I have the same issue on my Evo but I think mine is related to the bottom of the frame not being fully connected to the phone (brother dropped it a lot). Anyone think that could be the issue?
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