I'm a sprint SERO user which I'm sure matters...
Back with the 2.16/2.17 versions I used USB Modem for tethering with USB and bluetooth. However I noticed the latest 3.35 and even DCD 3.0.1 I can't seem to get bluetooth tethering going at all.
Anyone figure out how to get this configuration going? I can get USB Modem to work with 3.35 but not 3.0.1 in USB mode. It gets strange 67 errors.
I tried WModem from PPC Geeks, but those instructions only seem to be applicable for Sprint's ROM.
USB Modem for either version simply refuses to enable in bluetooth mode..
I want to ditch the Sprint 3.35 ROM because it is so ridiculously slow, that it's unusable.
hceuterpe said:
I'm a sprint SERO user which I'm sure matters...
Back with the 2.16/2.17 versions I used USB Modem for tethering with USB and bluetooth. However I noticed the latest 3.35 and even DCD 3.0.1 I can't seem to get bluetooth tethering going at all.
Anyone figure out how to get this configuration going? I can get USB Modem to work with 3.35 but not 3.0.1 in USB mode. It gets strange 67 errors.
I tried WModem from PPC Geeks, but those instructions only seem to be applicable for Sprint's ROM.
USB Modem for either version simply refuses to enable in bluetooth mode..
I want to ditch the Sprint 3.35 ROM because it is so ridiculously slow, that it's unusable.
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Ok, not sure how familiar you are with all of this stuff, but let's start with this:
There are 2 types of data plans available from sprint for your phone-
Unlimited data on your phone
Phone As Modem (PAM) Data (Tethering, Data Cards, etc).
Error 67 usually has to do with the fact that its trying to use the PAM data profile instead of the phone data.
This was ALWAYS supposed to be the case since tethering was supposed to be an additional service (with an additional fee), not included in your regular data plan. When it would use PAM, you would get charged per kb if you didn't have a PAM plan, since its not part of your data.
Your saving grace is that you have SERO.
SERO does not support the PAM plan. A rep couldn't even add it for you if they tried. So, instead of connecting and charging you per kb and having a huge bill, it just throws you a big old ERROR 67. You're lucky- had you been on a regular plan, it would have worked and possibly got stuck with a surprise in your bill.
How come it worked before?
Here's the loophole:
Our phones will only connect to one type of data at a time.
In other words, if you're already connected to the internet (checking email, web browsing, etc) it will just continue using that connection instead of hanging up and using the PAM one. I'll bet that you probably were always connected already on the 2.x roms (either because of a mail checking schedule or some app that frequently did something online) so you never ran into this problem before.
The solution?
Try opening up PIE and going to a web page so you have a valid connection. Then run Internet Sharing and see if it works. It should continue using your phone connection and not the Phone-As-Modem one.
Dishe said:
Error 67 usually has to do with the fact that its trying to use the PAM data profile instead of the phone data.
This was ALWAYS supposed to be the case since tethering was supposed to be an additional service (with an additional fee), not included in your regular data plan. When it would use PAM, you would get charged per kb if you didn't have a PAM plan, since its not part of your data.
Your saving grace is that you have SERO.
SERO does not support the PAM plan. A rep couldn't even add it for you if they tried. So, instead of connecting and charging you per kb and having a huge bill, it just throws you a big old ERROR 67. You're lucky- had you been on a regular plan, it would have worked and possibly got stuck with a surprise in your bill.
How come it worked before?
Here's the loophole:
Our phones will only connect to one type of data at a time.
In other words, if you're already connected to the internet (checking email, web browsing, etc) it will just continue using that connection instead of hanging up and using the PAM one. I'll bet that you probably were always connected already on the 2.x roms (either because of a mail checking schedule or some app that frequently did something online) so you never ran into this problem before.
The solution?
Try opening up PIE and going to a web page so you have a valid connection. Then run Internet Sharing and see if it works. It should continue using your phone connection and not the Phone-As-Modem one.
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I had this problem also using dcd's 3.0.1 (which I mentioned in that thread). I understand and agree that the error code 67 usually indicated that PAM was being used. However, it has been determined previously that the Extension registry entry (points to rilphone.dll) was how Sprint was detecting whether you were using PAM or not. I know that dcd mentioned that he deleted this key and any other related tether detection keys, so that leads me to believe the problem is with the bluetooth stack in the Sprint official 3.35 ROM and dcd's 3.0.1 (based on 3.35) kitchen.
Edit: I am now using a ROM built from the PPCGeeks kitchen (based on no2chem's 5054) and I am having no problems connecting using bluetooth PAN from another device.
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OK. Like a lot of people, I was horrified to discover that my Mac could no longer use my Hermes' bluetooth connection (DUN) after I upgraded to AKU 3.3. Microsoft lovingly removed DUN and added PAN, which MacOS doesn't support yet (rumors are that 10.4.9 or 10.5.0 will).
So I suddenly was left without a way to connect to the 'net using my phone and my MacBook Pro.
Plugging it up USB didn't do anything -- the Mac had no idea what the phone was, and didn't know how to use it for anything.
Enter MarkSpace MissingSync. I installed the latest version (3.0.1) on my Mac, and plugged in my phone to sync it up. By chance, I ran an 'ifconfig -a' in a terminal window, and noticed this:
Code:
en2: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 80:00:60:0f:e8:00
media: 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> status: active
supported media: 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex>
So MissingSync is establishing a connection using a faked IP address. OK. Interesting. So I unplug the phone, and go into the all new "Internet Sharing" app on my phone, set it to USB and turned it to connect. I plug my phone back in, and MissingSync tries to start up (and fails). But the IP (en2) is still there. I turn off my Airport (wireless) connection, make sure Bluetooth is disabled (to make sure).. and do a netstat -rn, and lo and behold, my Mac has suddenly taken on my phone as a default gateway.
Code:
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire
default 192.168.0.1 UGSc 9 40 en2
127 127.0.0.1 UCS 0 0 lo0
And... I'm on the 'net. I didn't have to create any connections, I didn't have to add any routes manually. Nothing. It just worked. (Yeah, I'm amazed, too).
Everything works. DNS, SlingPlayer, Entourage w/ Exchange.
I'm getting around 900/kbps down, 600/kbps up on Cingular/AT&T. Of course I live about 2 miles from Cingular HQ, so that's probably to be expected..
In MissingSync, turn *off* USB syncing, and it won't throw as many errors -- just sync via Bluetooth, but the drivers are still there, so it still comes up with an IP address and pseudo-ethernet device.
MarkSpace needs to market this. Awesome. It's not as convenient as bluetooth, but it's a lot faster, and you have the added benefit of charging your phone at the same time.
oh.. and one more thing... you can still use your phone for voice phone calls (when you're on 3G), and data. It works just like your're not plugged into it. And you can use a bluetooth headset with your phone while you're connected.
edited: make sure "use advanced usb networking" is turned OFF in the Settings>Connections page on your phone.
Wow, just tried this myself on cingular as well, 150k/sec down and 90k/sec up using EDGE. Extremely easy as well, just kinda works by itself if you have MissingSync installed. Posting using my TYTN right now actually.
I'm on the medianet unlimited plan so I connect through wap.cingular. Will I get hit for any additional data charges for tethering?
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Wow, just tried this myself on cingular as well, 150k/sec down and 90k/sec up using EDGE. Extremely easy as well, just kinda works by itself if you have MissingSync installed. Posting using my TYTN right now actually.
I'm on the medianet unlimited plan so I connect through wap.cingular. Will I get hit for any additional data charges for tethering?
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Very doubtful, although I don't know for sure. My phone is set to use MediaNET, and uses wap.cingular. I have PDA Unlimited Connect. From all appearances on Cingular's billing page, a notebook hooking into your phone via this method just looks like ordinary phone data to Cingular.
Now... I wouldn't use this as a primary internet connection. I'd bet if you put several gigs through the phone, they're going to get suspicious.
I actually use around 4-5 gigs a month normally (just with ActiveSync polling for mail and normal use), and they've never said anything to me.. so.. who knows.
Unfortunately, it's so difficult to get info from Cingular/AT&T these days (I'm still trying to get my [email protected] to work)..
My billing cycle is up in 7 days -- I will post back here if I see any different charges on my bill.
If this works, I'm going to hump your leg.
wow, works. time to start humping. i love you. please, bear my children.
btw, definitely worth adding to the wiki.
I am assuming that disabling the connection in Internet Sharing restores Missing Sync's normal (supported sync) functionality? Great pick-up. I already have Missing Sync and my 8525 will be here on Wednesday. Thanks.
Damn, I can't afford Missing Sync
Oh well, I bought it anyway. I'd already played with version 2.5 so I knew it was starting to get good. I can make use of some of the other features, (like importing my cameraphone snaps into iPhoto) but this internet sharing feature is why I bought it. And it works just as you said:
1) Run "Internet Sharing" on the phone with 'PC Connection' set to USB.
2) Plug into the Mac.
In fact "Missing Sync for Windows Mobile" shows up as a network interface in System Preferences / Network, too.
This is actually a lot nicer that the old way I used to do it. Before AKU 3.3 and Missing Sync 3 I was getting Internet access on my iBook over Bluetooth using Internet Connect and a lot of faffing around with modem scripts. I eventually found one that worked.. .but I always had to 'dial' 3 times before it connected and it took about 2 minutes to get a connection.
Now I can just plug in and go ... and my phone doesn't need a separate power supply to keep me connected all day. ** very happy **
(Yes, they should really advertise this!)
i'd really like my hermes to work on my Linux box, since I use it as my main system over XP.. i read a few articles regarding this, and it turns out the older version of synce worked on most HTC devices.. but for some odd reason the new ones dont seem to.. someone did mention that WM5 devices weren't supported for now.. the older WM2003 does tho..
if it makes any difference, I'm on Ubuntu Linux 6.10 32bit version..
any help is appreciated..
mizuchi said:
i'd really like my hermes to work on my Linux box, since I use it as my main system over XP.. i read a few articles regarding this, and it turns out the older version of synce worked on most HTC devices.. but for some odd reason the new ones dont seem to.. someone did mention that WM5 devices weren't supported for now.. the older WM2003 does tho..
if it makes any difference, I'm on Ubuntu Linux 6.10 32bit version..
any help is appreciated..
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I followed the (lenghty) instructions on the synce site, and it works for me with my TyTN. I have not set up contact syncing, but I can browse/copy/run stuff from my Ubuntu 6.10 installations on my TyTN.
i'll give it another shot.. thanks for the confirmation..
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...So I unplug the phone, and go into the all new "Internet Sharing" app on my phone, set it to USB and turned it to connect. I plug my phone back in, and MissingSync tries to start up (and fails). But the IP (en2) is still there. ...
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I don't have en2 when connecting in Share mode
MDA Compact III
What version of Missing Sync are you using? It's working for me using version 3.01
It's 3.0.0 (315) and it reports as the latest.
Well that's clearly not true I suggest you download the new version from the site (I only got this a few days ago).
Upgraded to the 3.0.1 (downloaded from the site). The client on the phone upgraded as well. Still nothing. On the sync mode there is en2 connection (with orange status) in the network preferences. When I activate the sharing mode it disappears. Checked in terminal as well.
And you're *definitely* using AKU 3.3 on the phone?
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And you're *definitely* using AKU 3.3 on the phone?
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I'm sure it's 3.x but may not be 3.3. How do I check this?
So, can it use bluetooth to link up my Hermes (AKU 3.3) and connect to the internet from my macbook thru the Hermes??
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So, can it use bluetooth to link up my Hermes (AKU 3.3) and connect to the internet from my macbook thru the Hermes??
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I don't believe so, I've only tried using the "USB" setting. Besides, the phone gets power through the USB cable and more bandwidth. There is no advantage to using Bluetooth except not needing a cable!
I've tried getting wmwifirouter to work on every build and can't get it to work. I've used it with no problem easily on 1.6.9 and lower but not any of the WM6.1 builds. I use it with my iPod Touch when on the bus. Can someone help please?
I have it working on mine and I am running 2.2.3. Make sure that the Wifi switch is turned on before you install the app otherwise you will have problems.
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I have it working on mine and I am running 2.2.3. Make sure that the Wifi switch is turned on before you install the app otherwise you will have problems.
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also make sure you are running the latest wifirouter
and ALSO make sure it is switched on BEFORE you open the app and BEFORE you click connect.....
also, I have found it helps to make sure that you are connected to the internet BEFORE you open and before you switch on the wifi...
i've followed those steps precisely and it doesnt work. I'm running dcd titan 2.2.6 and wmwifirouter 0.91. its only worked for my on the old versions. i can connect to my ipod touch with the old version just not the with the 2.x versions. has anyone tried it with 2.2.4 or 2.2.6?
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i've followed those steps precisely and it doesnt work. I'm running dcd titan 2.2.6 and wmwifirouter 0.91. its only worked for my on the old versions. i can connect to my ipod touch with the old version just not the with the 2.x versions. has anyone tried it with 2.2.4 or 2.2.6?
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You might have to create a adhoc connection on your phone. I know the newer version does this for you, but I have had better success creating a connection.
Steps
1. Click on "Start", "Settings", "Connections", and select "Wi-Fi".
2. Click on "Menu", "Add New.."
3. Under "Network Name" create a name you want to call your connection. Make sure "Connects to" is set for The Internet. Check the box for ad-hoc connection. Click "Next"
4. "Authentication" should be Open, "Data Encryption" should be Disabled.
5. Click "Next" then "Finish"
I can confirm WMWifiRouter worked on 2.2.3 and does not work on 2.2.6 (out of the box, at least).
I will try an ad-hoc connection tonight and see if it works. If not, I'm prolly going to downgrade back to 2.1.0.
WMWifirouter 0.91 works on 2.2.6. I just used it about 20 mins ago while i was on the road
JD
It works for me too but I get kicked off line about every 5-10 mins. Is this sprints fault?
Can somebody send me the .93 (or .91) cab, so i can try in on my setup? I lost my memory card and it was on it.
Can anyone once and for all actually confirm that you do not get charged the $15/month fee for using WMWifiRouter?
Thanks and hope everything works out well for Chainfire
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Can somebody send me the .93 (or .91) cab, so i can try in on my setup? I lost my memory card and it was on it.
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that's right...I forgot. Removing cab file.
@dalvarez7,
I think you should remove that file as Chainfire doesn't want it distributed.
What $15 a month fee are you talking about. If you have a unlimited data plan you should not encounter any extra fees for the carrier.
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What $15 a month fee are you talking about. If you have a unlimited data plan you should not encounter any extra fees for the carrier.
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Yes, but our lovely cellular carriers like to charge us an extra 15 dollar a month tethering fee if they detect you're using your phone for internet on your laptop.
I have never had a extra fee charged for using WifiRouter but I am on Verizon so I can not say for sure for any other carrier. I know that Verizon has a tethering option but I think, and I could be wrong, that the only way they can tell you are connecting with your computer is because you are using their program to do it. When you connect with WifiRouter you are using a program called internet sharing which is usually not installed on the phones when you first get them. This program uses NAT translation and routing to provide connectivity to computers through the wireless link on your phone. To the provider they only see your phone connected to the internet as all connections to the internet are processed by the routing software on the phone. I suppose that they could analyze all traffic over the link but I doubt that they do that as it seems it would be more hassle then it is worth and it would be hard to prove that it came from a computer and not from the phone.
What does it mean when it says it is looking for ICS? is that something that needs to be installed on my laptop?
ICS: Internet Connection Sharing
jeep14 said:
What does it mean when it says it is looking for ICS? is that something that needs to be installed on my laptop?
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that is Internet Connection Sharing on the phone. If your getting this and have ics the wifi is just not on.
Is it possible to use ICS with wifi connection instead of cellular connection? Would be useful for a makeshift wireless adapter if your regular NIC or wireless NIC fails.
It seems that even if I have a wifi connection already going and then I launch ICS and connect, it still tries to dial out and use the cellular connection. You would think if it can share cellular data it could share wifi data just as easily but maybe im missing something.
Back in the early days of WiFi internet sharing the private interface was changed to WiFi with a manual registry edit. It might be possible to change the public interface to USB instead of defaulting too the cellular radio. It would probably take a fair amount of troubleshooting, but I'd think it would be possible. I think the entries were at HKLM\Comm\ConnectionSharing. Might be a starting point...
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WiFiRouter
WiFiRouter works by making your ppc into a virtual access point. Then you can share the internet through it.
Last time I looked however, the author had withdrawn the program from circulation at version 0.91. There must be some problems with it because the author indicated that he would release a new version once he ironed out some bugs. If it is not back in distribution yet, you might be still able to find it on a torrent site. If not, PM me and I will send you the cab. Some of the cab collections at ppcgeeks ftp have it inside too. One good collection to check is Alex's.
I have used it and it works.
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wmwifirouter is not what he's looking for. That is still using your phones internet. He wants to see how he could use the phone as a Network card, using the wifi connection, as oppossed to the sprintpcs connection.
I too would be very interested in this happening, if anyone knows of a way please tell.
ok, but why ??
Why would you actually want to do this anyway ??? I will look into it but it makes no sense when a USB WiFi dongle is $30 or so and does not run your phone down to use it, why would you want to use your phone as a very expensive USB WiFi card ??? Maybe I am missing some golden benefit ????
I dont get it either, but he did say in an emergency if your wifi went out.
Thank you for the responses.
Yes, it would be useful if your wireless nic went out (or regular nic for that matter) just to have something to use for the moment. Or maybe you brought your computer to a friends house and hes out of ports or you dont want to run 50ft cable to his kitchen table
But the titan has wireless, it has internet sharing, why doesnt the wireless show up in the list of available networks? I'm not saying its an all important feature but it would be yet another cool thing your phone could do.
i looking to use my mogul as a wifi access point (sharing Spint Vision thru wifi)
i tryed the procedure to mod the registry to enable it but i cant get it to work.
anyone know the exact procedure for the mogul
btw i also checked out WMWifiRouter...looks like it's no longer free
I also wanna know
Look the idea is simple. So where is the phone ICS telling it to use the celluar line and not allowing the option of the wifi?
Pls any one contact me. Its a cool feature for a phone
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i looking to use my mogul as a wifi access point (sharing Spint Vision thru wifi)
i tryed the procedure to mod the registry to enable it but i cant get it to work.
anyone know the exact procedure for the mogul
btw i also checked out WMWifiRouter...looks like it's no longer free
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I bought software called Walking Hotspot, which essentially turns my Mogul/Titan into something like a Mifi, sharing my cellular data with my laptop. Otherwise known as tethering.
I only use it for emergencies because I am not sure if Sprint can tell that I am tethering. I believe if Sprint detects unauthorized tethering they will charge 4 cents per kilobyte of data .. which is very harsh!
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I'm sorry if this is an obvious question, but I've spent a good portion of the afternoon trying to find an answer using the various search functions on the XDA site with no luck.
Today I flashed my ROM on my Sprint Mogul for the first time (because I finally got tired of the standard package...) with the following steps...
1. Used Hard-SPL 2.40 via USB connection to unlock
2. Installed Titan Radio ROM 3.42.50 from SD card
3. Installed Titan WM6.5 21139 CR2 via USB connection
4. Rebooted at completion, and Windows Mobile 6.5 started up perfectly!
5. Found that phone would not connect to Data Connection (#777)
6. Downloaded and installed DCD Sprint Carrier CAB from dcd's website
However, I don't know if my phone connects to Sprint via #777. My wireless connection is working fine, but when I disable wireless and try to open IE or similar programs, my "Connectivity" icon at the top of my phone will indicate a connection has been established, but it says "Sprint PCS (Dial-up)" is connected. Does this mean that I have connected via #777 to my Sprint Data Plan, or is this some other function I am not familiar with? This could be the simplest answer in the history of questions, but it just looks different than it did before I flashed the ROM.
Thanks for your answers!
#777 will be your your data plan. if you dont have a data plan you will be charged
No, one of the tweaks with that is that it does not display the connection dialog (balloon that pops down saying "Dialing #777...", etc.). It only says 'Dial-up' because of the way DCD constructed the carrier CAB at the time. It is no different from your standard Sprint Data Plan.
yes it does look different. but bottom line is you are still connecting like you were before with 777. it is just different. there is NO other way to connect.
Hi
I'm using my i5500 (Cm 7.1/1.3 with hotfix 1, and baseband LUYJPE) as my primary internet connection, using USB tethering. I have an unlimited data plan.
Whilst using utorrent, downloading will be fine for 20 mins or so, then just cut out. Data & tethering are still enabled on g5, and PC apparently still has a connection. But can't actually use net.
So, I disable tethering & re-enable, and it's fine again. So, it has to be a phone issue, right?
Anyone have any more info, or suggestions?
(I've tried this with Froyo, CM7.1 (1.0, and 1.3) and is there with all.)
Problem still exists, still looking for help/ideas.
Also, I've found that a lot of android phones do this, some say because of USB 1 ports, others because of the number of connections...I'm lost...
Adventium said:
Hi
I'm using my i5500 (Cm 7.1/1.3 with hotfix 1, and baseband LUYJPE) as my primary internet connection, using USB tethering. I have an unlimited data plan.
Whilst using utorrent, downloading will be fine for 20 mins or so, then just cut out. Data & tethering are still enabled on g5, and PC apparently still has a connection. But can't actually use net.
So, I disable tethering & re-enable, and it's fine again. So, it has to be a phone issue, right?
Anyone have any more info, or suggestions?
(I've tried this with Froyo, CM7.1 (1.0, and 1.3) and is there with all.)
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It sounds like your provider is capping your data session to me... On Bell Mobility in Canada, some customers have found that when using pda.bell.ca as their APN, the session caps out at whatever value, but when using pda2.bell.ca as their APN, the session isn't capped... It may be worth looking into, just for kicks and giggles...
Yeah, that's what I thought originally.
But...
I can restart traffic by disabling & re-enabling tethering. The phones connection stays active during that time, and data picks up again.
Also, I can download as much as I like at a high rate, providing upload isn't much. A HTTP download whizzes by, where as any torrent crashes.
Adventium said:
Yeah, that's what I thought originally.
But...
I can restart traffic by disabling & re-enabling tethering. The phones connection stays active during that time, and data picks up again.
Also, I can download as much as I like at a high rate, providing upload isn't much. A HTTP download whizzes by, where as any torrent crashes.
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The only other thing that comes to mind is that your provider may be throttling the connection... You could try encrypting the torrent's connections, and using non standard ports...