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I seem to have a problem with my XDA II (Dopod 696). The device won't sync via USB, but it will sync via infrared. When i plug the USB cradle/cable in, the computer complains that "USB Device not Recognized" saying that one of the USB devices attached to this computer has malfunctioned, etc..
Now the problem is, this phone comes in Chinese software. If i have to active sync via BT normally it would be fine, but i need USB support to reflash in WWE ROM to the phone.
Or has someone come out with a total solution for flashing the phone via SD card already? I have tried the ROM 1.72 bootloader but it does not work at all. My bootloader is 1.02.
THe strange thing about this all is that when loaded into bootloader mode, the phone says Serial. When i plug in the cradle/cable, the phone can recognize the connection and it changes to USB. But it is still detected as a malfunctioning device on all 4 of my computers (WinXP x2 Win2k x2).
Help, somebody!
can't you put it in bootloader usb and then run an upgrade ?
M4io said:
can't you put it in bootloader usb and then run an upgrade ?
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no..what kind of an upgrade would run on a undetected USB connection?
Even mttyl won't work.
So is a general SD-solution available yet? Or should I try by restoring a backup from another XDA II?
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So is a general SD-solution available yet? Or should I try by restoring a backup from another XDA II?
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Solved the problem..
Believe it or not, the connector on the bottom of the XDA II had actually had 4 pins twisted down...in particular the USBDATA+ and - pins clamped to ground (i think) thank goodness the device still works.
Managed to restore them to the original position with a blade, tweezers and a very nervous 20 minutes.
Have no idea what a replacement connector would have cost locally here. Probably another bomb (or as the "generic" solution goes.. Err, sir.. We need to replace your motherboard RUBBISH!
Hi there,
I upgraded to WM5 but wanted to downgrade to WM2003. But halfways the downgrade the PDA hung. The only thing I can see in the screen is Serial at the top and v1.06 at the bottom. When I put the PDA in the cradle, Serial changes into USB. When I try to install firmware from a ROM, after a while I get an Error 101: Connection Error. I think that in some way the connection cannot be esthablished between cradle (PDA) and the computer.
Trying a soft or a hard reset doesn''t seem to do anything.
Can anyone help?
MDA II
i have the same problem. it keeps on giving me a connection error. please can some one help.
the same problem with SPV M1000. anyone have the solution?
do a hard reset guyz by this method
HOLD DOWN UR POWER BUTTON+RESET (pin at bottom)..u will see 1.06 or what ever ur bootloader version is at bottom and at top u will see SERIAL..when u connect it to USB it will change to USB....and VOILA !!!
Happy Flashing
Same Problem
Did as you said and my computer doen't pick up the connection through the cradle. HELPPPPPPPP!!!!!!
prob
HERE already tried to hardreset and then trying flashing
but can't sucess
The same problem..
we are on the same trouble...
until now, there's no way to resolve this problem,
the lucky if we can connect to PC,
i think its the connector problem,
maybe using a new sync cable rather then the cradle then
the cradle was always hit or miss for me
but i still had my wallaby cradle which always worked
Rudegar said:
maybe using a new sync cable rather then the cradle then
the cradle was always hit or miss for me
but i still had my wallaby cradle which always worked
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I have tried about 3 different cables and the cradle one.
and so tried to 3 different PC's to connect and got same error
btw, thanks...
From what I've seen so far problems can be caused by:
1. A firewall needs configuring or temporary disabling.
2. The usb connection shouldn't be through a hub but straight to the usb on the motherboard.
3. Dubious connection to the cradle.
rhilton said:
From what I've seen so far problems can be caused by:
1. A firewall needs configuring or temporary disabling.
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my firewall is active exception activesync service
some time disable
2. The usb connection shouldn't be through a hub but straight to the usb on the motherboard.
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i have modding motorola like e398, e1, e2, L7, v3i etc before
i never use USB-hub, i have 8 port USB straight to motherboard,
3. Dubious connection to the cradle.
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i dont understand about this (dubious ?)
when dopod 838 friend connected to my PC it was OK, no problem,
thanks rhilton
no pc usb connect
Have checked your phone connector? it happened to me once:1 pin was out and no way to sync !!!
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imamlab said:
my firewall is active exception activesync service
some time disable
i have modding motorola like e398, e1, e2, L7, v3i etc before
i never use USB-hub, i have 8 port USB straight to motherboard,
i dont understand about this (dubious ?)
when dopod 838 friend connected to my PC it was OK, no problem,
thanks rhilton
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Pls help
Have d same problem and i've tried all these but no change. Any newer ideas ?
Pls help
Have d same problem and i've tried all these but no change. Any newer ideas ?
Pls help
Have d same problem and i've tried all these but no change. Any newer ideas ?
well, i can't figure out quite what has happened.
i was attempting to install hard SPL v7 prior to upgrading to the latest LVSW 0423 ROM.
activesync was connected, i ran RUUWrapper.exe and it dropped the 8525 into bootloader mode as it usually does. for some reason, the RUU app was unable to verify the info on the phone, so upgrade failed and it quit. i reset the 8525, and it booted normally.
well...now USB appears to be dead. forcing the device into bootloader shows
Code:
HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.30.Olipro
Serial
connecting the USB cable does nothing - the bootloader continues to show "Serial". i can reboot and all is fine, radio works...nothing else is wrong except there is no comm via USB. the device charges via USB just fine, whether the 8525 is powered on or off.
nothing in the hermes bricked wiki page matched up, as i have a working OS and a working radio...but i saw in another post that being stuck with "Serial" is evidence of a corrupt bootloader.
ideas? thanks!
Try running the RUU again. If it is still dead then try flashing via SD card.
jamiefiedler said:
well, i can't figure out quite what has happened.
i was attempting to install hard SPL v7 prior to upgrading to the latest LVSW 0423 ROM.
activesync was connected, i ran RUUWrapper.exe and it dropped the 8525 into bootloader mode as it usually does. for some reason, the RUU app was unable to verify the info on the phone, so upgrade failed and it quit. i reset the 8525, and it booted normally.
well...now USB appears to be dead. forcing the device into bootloader shows
Code:
HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.30.Olipro
Serial
connecting the USB cable does nothing - the bootloader continues to show "Serial". i can reboot and all is fine, radio works...nothing else is wrong except there is no comm via USB. the device charges via USB just fine, whether the 8525 is powered on or off.
nothing in the hermes bricked wiki page matched up, as i have a working OS and a working radio...but i saw in another post that being stuck with "Serial" is evidence of a corrupt bootloader.
ideas? thanks!
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change your usb cable
stukes said:
Try running the RUU again. If it is still dead then try flashing via SD card.
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i tried running the RUU again, but since hard SPL v7 (and most of the other RUU updates) seem to require a working activesync connection - which i can't get withoutout USB - i've had no luck.
flashing via SD card is a great idea - didn't even think of that, thank you. i'm not entirely sure which nbh would be appropriate to flash in this situation though - a complete OS/radio/BL package or attempt just the hard SPL nbh file again?
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change your usb cable
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sorry...should have mentioned i tried another cable. both cables i tried are verified good with another device, and both cables are able to charge the 8525 when connected.
one more thing...if this is in fact a screwed up bootloader, is there anything valuable i can check/monitor/log while attempting to fix this to benefit anyone on the site?
Its up to you. I would try only the Bootloader because it will be superquick. Maybe you should check out the Flashing from SD Card Thread.
stukes said:
Its up to you. I would try only the Bootloader because it will be superquick. Maybe you should check out the Flashing from SD Card Thread.
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ok, i'll give the straight bootloader a shot.
i was gonna follow the sd card flash instructions on the wiki...seemed simple enough. are you thinking of another thread i should check first?
thanks for your help, greatly appreciated. i'll post results of course.
jamiefiedler said:
flashing via SD card is a great idea - didn't even think of that, thank you. i'm not entirely sure which nbh would be appropriate to flash in this situation though - a complete OS/radio/BL package or attempt just the hard SPL nbh file again?
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Flash HardSPL latest version first, otherwise you'll overwrite it because you have an old version which does not have SPL protection.
jamiefiedler said:
sorry...should have mentioned i tried another cable. both cables i tried are verified good with another device, and both cables are able to charge the 8525 when connected.
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Try another usb port on computer then... or better, another computer and another usb cable.
jamiefiedler said:
one more thing...if this is in fact a screwed up bootloader, is there anything valuable i can check/monitor/log while attempting to fix this to benefit anyone on the site?
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either your hermes usb connector is broken (which i doubt cos is able to charge) or you're using a bad cable, a bad usb port on computer, or an operating system without proper usb driver installation. For sure is not a problem of the SPL.
jamiefiedler said:
ok, i'll give the straight bootloader a shot.
i was gonna follow the sd card flash instructions on the wiki...seemed simple enough. are you thinking of another thread i should check first?
thanks for your help, greatly appreciated. i'll post results of course.
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The WIKI is great. Pof gave you a nice sum'd up list.
ok...flashed hard SPL v7 successfully - now have SPL-2.10.Olipro but still no USB - pof was right (surprise surprise), it wasn't the bootloader.
i've now tried this using 3 different usb cables with 2 different USB ports on each of 2 different XP boxes. activesync is unresponsive on both (i've used activesync 4.5 successfully on both in the past) and when watching in bootloader mode then 8525 continues to show "Serial" in all cases.
maybe just one of the data pins of the mini-USB jack is damaged? intact power pins would still allow it to charge even if a data pin was bad.
unless anyone has another suggestion, i'm going to assume it needs to be rolled back to the cingular ROM and sent off to HTC for (attempted) warranty repair...hopefully nobody will notice anything SPL/CID related.
Bummer man. Try yanking the battery out while it is on and let it sit with it out for a while. Then roll back to your original ROM. Sucks if it where a bad pin.
This is a stretch, but anytime I have hardware connection issues (hard drive, flash drives, etc) I put them in the freezer for 10 mins. If it works, at least you know its the hardware.
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This is a stretch, but anytime I have hardware connection issues (hard drive, flash drives, etc) I put them in the freezer for 10 mins. If it works, at least you know its the hardware.
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LOL. I saw this somewhere before. Now for the more serious thought effects of extreme cold.
Moisture
Metals Expand and Contract
i popped the back off the 8525 and took a close look at the mini USB jack's pins, expecting to see evidence of a damaged pin (or more than one). well, no damaged pins - but i did find what looked to be a tiny sliver of metal that had worked it's way down (or in from outside) and was lodged between a couple of the pins. i used an x-acto knife to gently scrape between the pins as they traveled down to the main board, making sure not to damage any of the pins. went through all of them just in case, then closed it back up.
USB = working. problem solved.
thanks guys, as always i really appreciate your help.
Outstanding!!!
Very Nice!
btw stukes I put my dead sd card in the freezer last night, and what do you know? It Works! I know its a bit of a black art but I have used it successfully more than once.
I've got the Dopod U1000 version of the Athena with the original WM5 Rom. Unfortunately, a few months after I got it, both my laptop and my desktop (both running XP) suddenly stopped recognizing my Athena when I connected via USB. I always get an error message of USB Device Not Recognized. Since then, I've had to connect via bluetooth to ActiveSync. (The Athena does charge when connected via USB, just isn't recognized by the computer or ActiveSync, obviously.)
Now, I'd really love to upgrade to one of the WM6.1 cooked roms, but it seems I need to use Olipro's Athena wrapper first, right? And it seems that I need to be synced with the PC via USB to run the Athena wrapper, right?
Am I stuck with WM5 or is there a way to make this work? If not upgrading the rom, can I upgrade the radio, or does that also require the wrapper process?
Any advice greatly appreciated.
You must synchronize correctly in order to upgrade!
Now you should look for the cause why you can't synchronize? try to go to Settings -> Connections -> USB to PC and see if the choice is checked uncheck it and do a soft rest and try synchronizing
I had that problem with my previous work computer. After several months the usb port I always connected to suddenly didn't recognize the Athena. Switched to another port, after a while it wouldn't recognize it. Etc, Etc. I was on my last port when they upgraded my computer.
Its been several months now and no problems. Have you tried another computer?
Bright Neon,
thanks for the reply. Have tried many times what you suggested with no success, as well several hard resets.
techntrek,
by different usb ports, do you mean the different physical ports to plug in on the computer? If so, I've tried both on my laptop and all six on my desktop. Don't have access to another computer at the moment.
So, there's no way to use the Athena Wrapper without being synched? From my reading, it seems possible to flash a new rom from the minisd. I was hoping something like that was possible for Athena Wrapper, as well. Definitely not, huh?
Yes, I meant the physical usb ports. I have no idea why it was such a problem for me on that older computer.
Sorry, don't have an answer for your question about flashing from the mini-SD.
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..From my reading, it seems possible to flash a new rom from the minisd. I was hoping something like that was possible for Athena Wrapper, as well. Definitely not, huh?
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I've extracted the needed file from the AthenaWrapper. See attached.
1st prepare a mini-SD card FAT32 formatted. Unzip and Copy the extracted file into it root.
Or with existing mini-SD, move all existing files into somewhere and copy this attached file
into the root of the miniSD. You must leave the root solely for this special file.
Place the mini-SD into the Athena and execute BootLoader.
It should instantly detect and automatically run the AthenaWrapper from there.
Ensure your Athena with sufficiant battery power or run direct from adaptor.
I've not use this method on wrapper but works fine installing rom.
I am not responsible if anything goes wrong from here.
So if you are comfortable to try than proceed. Otherwise wait for a better solution.
Pdajoy,
Thank you very, very much for the file and instructions!
Now, I've just got to see if I've got the courage to try it. If anyone else wants to weigh in on whether this is likely to work or end in disaster, I'm all ears.
Evermore, you are welcome. Hope you solve the USB issue.
To those who happen to find this thread and looking for alternative method, please read http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
before begin your advanture, its only 11 pages.
evermore said:
Pdajoy,
Thank you very, very much for the file and instructions!
Now, I've just got to see if I've got the courage to try it. If anyone else wants to weigh in on whether this is likely to work or end in disaster, I'm all ears.
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I think it would be very brave of you to upgrade the SPL this way.
I can't remember anyone attempting to do it this way .
So many people were having problems that cmonex made a wrapper to try and prevent problems.
there are a few processes involved in this so I suggest you pm and ask her directly after reading both the AP4 upgrade posts.
it will not work from SD if you dont have a hardspl currently
Thanks for the reply. I just got my athena back from the shop in an attempt to fix the connection problem, but they were unable to fix it and said I'd need a new motherboard.
So, with no way to connect via usb, I'm stuck with WM5 on this device then, right?
Have you tried other computers. I would try several more makes/models.
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Thanks for the reply. I just got my athena back from the shop in an attempt to fix the connection problem, but they were unable to fix it and said I'd need a new motherboard.
So, with no way to connect via usb, I'm stuck with WM5 on this device then, right?
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there can be a way, actually. run SSPL (a spec version that doesn't have SD removed. current one has it removed, iirc), then use that to read in a ATHEIMG.NBH.
but I do not remember if for Athena SD works in SSPL loaded with jumpspl or only with SSPL loaded from diag (and the latter would require a hardspl already on the device)... drop me a PM and we can test this out.
This night sound obvious, but have you tried to use another USB cable?
Also, the USB port of the Athena is bit loss. You might want to try to use a small piece of paper inserted together with the USB male plug to make the contacts tighter.
Hey,
Thanks for the replies. I have tried several cables and computers. I even tried the suggestion of inserting paper to make the contacts tighter, but the fit is actually quite tight, even without the paper. I'm inclined to accept what the repair shop said - that there is a problem on the motherboard where it connects to the mini-usb. So, short of replacing the motherboard, there doesn't seem to be a mechanical fix to my situation. I thank you all again for your suggestions.
Cmonex, I'll pm you to take you up on your offer to see if there's a chance of upgrading without usb connection.
A couple years ago the connector on my XDA was broken. The service centre wanted something like US$300 to replace the mother board. I decided that it was not worth it and tried to repair myself. I opened the case and found that the "legs" of the connector were broken - I ended up soldering a mini USB port to the mother board and used it for another year before it was stolen!
My point is it is worthwhile to check whether it is just caused by a broken "leg". If so it is quite easy to repair!
kwongwt,
thanks very much. The guy at the repair shop had the intention of replacing the mini usb, but said there was a problem on the motherboard itself where the mini usb would connect. Don't know, maybe he was wrong and you are right.
I just found the service manual online and, yikes!!!, there is no way I can do this myself (even if I had the right tools). Just way too many ways for me to make a mistake in there. I'm impressed that you were able to do so.
So, until I get some more money together, I can't afford to get a second opinion from another repair place, unfortunately. I hope you're right and it can be repaired, but I won't be able to find out for a while.
Thanks again.
update... apparently the hardSPL flash worked from SD. maybe I'll release that SSPL later. but it seems he now needs to reflash the OS for some reason.
Yes, everybody. Cmonex saved me!
I have just successfully flashed michyprima's latest rom (spl 1.2). Going from original WM5 to this rom ought to be quite a leap, I suspect. And all possible because cmonex help me hardspl flash from sd. Who needs a stinking usb connection, anyway?
device not recognized - HTC Fuze
I was having the hardest time with my FUZE being recognized by my machines. I would have to reboot the phone and reboot the machine to get it to work. Even then it would only work once.
The fix was to get the original USB cable and use it.
ok the micro usb on my phone doesnt work at all so i cant hook it to the pc,
someone please tell me that i can still task 29 my phone in some way with no usb pretty please??????
I dont think its possible, sorry.
On the other hand..... why the desperate need to task29?
I know a lot of people swear by it but I've had my HD2 since launch and never used it, flashed numerous winmo roms, WP7, Android to NAND and never experienced any issues that have made me think "hmmm task29 would sort this"....
I think its a bit of a placebo if Im honest.
Just my 2 cents......
Demon_man said:
ok the micro usb on my phone doesnt work at all so i cant hook it to the pc,
someone please tell me that i can still task 29 my phone in some way with no usb pretty please??????
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The only way to do task 29 in your situation is by flashing Correct Stock ROM via Micro SD Card.
All Stock ROM will perform Task 29 before it flashing. But, you will end up with the Stock ROM
Have you tried your friend's PC?
If you task29 you're going to have to connect to your computer to flash a new rom, so how are you going to do that?
Does your phone charge or is the whole usb hardware fried?
My original HTC USB cord allows me to charge most of the time but does not allow the phone to establish a connection to a pc, replaced it with a new Belkin cord and everything works fine. Are you sure it's the phone that doesn't work?
Demon_man said:
ok the micro usb on my phone doesnt work at all so i cant hook it to the pc,
someone please tell me that i can still task 29 my phone in some way with no usb pretty please??????
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Sent from my Nexus powered HD2Droid
nope i cant connect to a pc because i have no micro usb in my phone, i sent it for repairs and it came back with no micro usb in the phone and was told couldn't be fixed and not covered by my warranty yeah cheers HTC>........
so how do you charge it? oO
Glebun said:
so how do you charge it? oO
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...there are external battery chargers, actually...
tgtoys said:
If you task29 you're going to have to connect to your computer to flash a new rom, so how are you going to do that?
Does your phone charge or is the whole usb hardware fried?
My original HTC USB cord allows me to charge most of the time but does not allow the phone to establish a connection to a pc, replaced it with a new Belkin cord and everything works fine. Are you sure it's the phone that doesn't work?
Sent from my Nexus powered HD2Droid
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I think one can use the SD flash method with any ROM, custom or stock.
stevedebi said:
I think one can use the SD flash method with any ROM, custom or stock.
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Yes, but you need HSPL in case of custom rom
silverwind said:
Yes, but you need HSPL in case of custom rom
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He is running an Android OS, I think he does have HSPL on the phone.
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He is running an Android OS, I think he does have HSPL on the phone.
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You are right, he is running android
You are so diligent. I rarely check someone's sig
Cheers.....